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Emos vs. Punks

Emos vs. Punks
Aerial photograph of a traffic circle
A confrontation took place at the Glorieta de los Insurgentes (pictured) in 2008
Date2008–2009
LocationMexico
Also known asEmo Wars
TypeConfrontation
CauseConflict between emo and other subcultures
TargetEmo groups
PerpetratorAnti-emo groups
OutcomeThe emo groups disappeared progressively
Non-fatal injuries3 (Querétaro City)
Arrests28 (Querétaro City)

Emos vs. Punks were multiple confrontations that occurred in 2008 in Mexico between emos and anti-emo groups (mainly punks).

The emo movement emerged in Mexico in the early 2000s. It was influenced by the international subculture of the United States and pop punk music, known for its emotionally expressive lyrics. Fashion drew inspiration from androgynous styles, including skinny jeans and men wearing make-up, both uncommon in the country at that time. In Mexico City, emos first gathered at the Tianguis Cultural del Chopo, a flea market known for hosting various underground subcultures, including punk and heavy metal communities.

As the movement became mainstream in the country, mainly among teenagers and young adults, anti-emo groups formed, which claimed that emos were appropriating and imitating their subcultures. Harassment from anti-emo groups escalated over time, with some even calling for the assassination of emos. In Mexico City, the anti-emo groups expelled emos from El Chopo market, prompting them to regroup at the Glorieta de los Insurgentes traffic circle, at the clandestine club Los Sillones.

In March 2008, a group of emos was attacked in the capital city of Querétaro. Alleging that the emos were attempting to expand and appropriate more zones in Mexico City, anti-emo groups organized a confrontation at the traffic circle on 16 March 2008 via social network services. Police officers partially controlled the mob, but the unrest resumed a few hours later. It was not until members of the Hare Krishna movement intervened and diverted the attention from both groups that the brawl ended. In the following weeks, emo groups held demonstrations in Mexico City, calling for respect and tolerance. Subsequently, the emo movement in Mexico declined, as many individuals either abandoned the identity or integrated into other subcultures.

Emo subculture in Mexico

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The emo subculture emerged in Mexico around 2001.[1] Social network services, like MySpace, hi5, and Metroflog, were gaining popularity among teenagers and young adults. Musically, international rock groups like My Chemical Romance, Paramore, and Fall Out Boy, as well as local bands like Panda, Delux and Kudai, surged or became popular. Emo lyrics typically focused on personal emotions and introspection, differing from the politically and socially charged themes found in punk music. The associated fashion embraced androgynous styles, including skinny jeans, makeup, and the signature emo hairstyle with long bangs covering one eye. Over time, emo fashion became more widespread, and isolated groups became mainstream. In Mexico City, some members gathered at the Tianguis Cultural del Chopo, a street flea market known for hosting a variety of underground scenes, including punks, goths, metalheads, skinheads, among others.[2]

Anti-emo groups

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The emo subculture faced backlash from members of other youth scenes, who perceived it as a parody or superficial imitation of their own identities. Emos were perceived as emotionally fragile and inauthentic, adopting the style solely for aesthetic reasons.[2] Kristoff Raczyñski, a host on TeleHit—a Televisa cable television channel similar to MTV—dismissed the subculture as a trend for "15-year-old little girls", adding that "There isn't a movement here. There isn't a unified manner of thinking, there [aren't] musicians. You have confused hard rock, punk and screamo and you have grouped all the ideas of these scenes, just to give significance to your stupid bullshit movement."[3][4]

Emos were constantly harassed at El Chopo market, prompting them to relocate to the Glorieta de los Insurgentes, a traffic roundabout along Avenida de los Insurgentes, in the clandestine club Los Sillones. Punks interpreted this move as an attempt by emos to expand their presence.[2] Anti-emo groups surged in the country, and tensions rose among punks and metalheads, who viewed emos as a threat to their subcultural values and code. Fernanda Guzmán said on NPR that stereotypes surrounding emotional behavior and fashion may have contributed to a bullying culture, primarily because emos were perceived as effeminate. This opinion conflicted with Mexico's widespread culture of machismo and homophobia, in contrast to punks and metalheads, whereas punks and metalheads were associated with more traditionally masculine traits. Anti-emos sentiment grew hostile, with incidents of emos getting their bangs cut and the spread of slogans such as Haz patria y mata a un emo ("Make a homeland and kill an emo").[2][5] Online anti-emo groups emerged, including Movimiento Anti Emosexual and Anti Emo Death Squad, the latter hosted on Last.fm.[6]

Confrontations

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On 7 March 2008, around 800 people gathered in Querétaro City to attack emos. The movement, driven by online groups and email chain letters, targeted those who rejected the "emo look and attitude". The crowd assaulted three teenagers in a city plaza, punching and kicking them.[7][8][9] Police arrested 28 people.[4]

The following week, on the afternoon of 16 March, anti-emos groups gathered at the Glorieta de los Insurgentes to attack emos at Los Sillones. The two groups exchanged verbal confrontations, but quickly escalated to physical violence with belts. City police intervened to separate both groups, but a few hours later, the brawl resumed. It was only deescalated when members of the Hare Krishna movement—who regularly sang at the traffic circle on Saturdays—invited both sides to join them in singing.[2][10][11]

In Tijuana, emos were warned not to attend the city's fair the following month.[12] In anti-emos, further clashes between emos and anti-emos occurred in Tampico.[13]

Aftermath and legacy

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Emo groups held demonstrations in several cities, requesting respect.[6][12] In Mexico City, they attempted to return to the El Chopo market, but were blocked by anti-emos groups. In the following years, the emo scene dwindled, with Guzmán attributing it to teenagers aging out of the subculture or merging into others while continuing their search for identity.[2]

The events were referenced in an episode of La rosa de Guadalupe.[14] Seventeen years after the conflict at Glorieta de los Insurgentes, a peaceful commemorative march took place in 2025, concluding at the roundabout, where participants staged a symbolic mock street fight.[15]

See also

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References

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  1. ^ Tuckman, Jo (6 April 2008). "Beatings and abuse give Mexico's emo teens plenty to feel anguished about". The Guardian. Retrieved 21 February 2025.
  2. ^ a b c d e f Alarcón, Daniel; Guzmán, Fernanda (19 October 2021). "Emos vs. punks". NPR (in Spanish). Archived from the original on 23 February 2025. Retrieved 17 February 2025.
  3. ^ "El día que Kristoff Raczynski explotó contra los emos: 'Una cosa para niñas de 15 años'" [The day Kristoff Raczynski exploded against emos: 'A thing for 15-year-old girls']. Milenio (in Spanish). 13 August 2022. Archived from the original on 23 February 2025. Retrieved 19 February 2025.
  4. ^ a b Contreras, Joseph (16 May 2008). "Anti-Emo Riots in Mexico: ¡Pánico en el Disco!". Spin. Archived from the original on 23 February 2025. Retrieved 21 February 2025.
  5. ^ Wells, Steven (1 April 2008). "The Mexican emocalypse". The Guardian. Archived from the original on 22 December 2019. Retrieved 21 February 2025.
  6. ^ a b Madrigal, Alexis (27 March 2008). "Anti-Emo Riots Break Out Across Mexico". Wired. Archived from the original on 22 January 2025. Retrieved 21 February 2025.
  7. ^ Kreps, Daniel (27 March 2008). "Anti-Emo Violence Plagues Mexico as Attacks Increase". Rolling Stone. Retrieved 21 February 2025.
  8. ^ Grillo, Ioan (27 March 2008). "Mexico's Emo-Bashing Problem". Time. Mexico City. Archived from the original on 23 February 2025. Retrieved 21 February 2025.
  9. ^ Brand, Madeleine; O'Boyle, Michael (16 April 2008). "The Mexican Emo Wars". NPR. Archived from the original on 23 February 2025. Retrieved 21 February 2025.
  10. ^ Flores, Miguel (17 March 2023). "Emos vs Punks: a 15 años de la trifulca que paralizó la Glorieta de Insurgentes" [Emos vs Punks: 15 years after the brawl that paralyzed the Glorieta de los Insurgentes]. Infobae (in Spanish). Archived from the original on 30 May 2023. Retrieved 21 February 2025.
  11. ^ "Emos vs Punks: se cumplen 14 años de la pelea en la Glorieta de Insurgentes" [Emos vs Punks: 14 years since the fight at the Glorieta de Insurgentes]. El Financiero (in Spanish). 15 March 2022. Archived from the original on 25 February 2025. Retrieved 21 February 2025.
  12. ^ a b Thiessen, Brock (25 March 2008). "Mexico Declares War On Emo". Exclaim!. Archived from the original on 23 February 2025. Retrieved 21 February 2025.
  13. ^ Saldaña, Erik Eduardo (18 April 2021). "A 12 años del encuentro en Tampico entre emos y metaleros que terminó en redada" [12 years since the encounter in Tampico between emos and metalheads that ended in a raid]. Milenio (in Spanish). Archived from the original on 23 February 2025. Retrieved 22 February 2025.
  14. ^ "'Soy emo', cuando La Rosa de Guadalupe hizo un homenaje a una noticia vergonzosa" ['I am emo', when La Rosa de Guadalupe paid tribute to an embarrassing news story]. Cultura Colectiva (in Spanish). 23 January 2023. Retrieved 15 March 2025.
  15. ^ "'No es una fase, es mi verdadero yo': realizan 'Marcha Emo' en la CDMX luego de 17 años del enfrentamiento con punks" ['It's not a phase, it's my true self': 'Emo March' takes place in Mexico City after 17 years of conflict with punks]. LatinUS (in Spanish). 15 March 2025. Retrieved 15 March 2025.
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External videos
video icon The conflict in the Glorieta de los Insurgentes