Talk:2025 Interim Constitution of Syria#Requested move 3 November 2025

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2025 Interim Constitution of Syria → 2025 interim constitution of Syria – or Constitutional Declaration of the Syrian Arab Republic. As best I can tell, this is a descriptive title. It is not the title of the document, and it should be in WP:SENTENCECASE. I did not find any source cited for the name as it is currently written (especially as capitalized). —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 02:12, 3 November 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. --pro-anti-air ––>(talk)<–– 04:44, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Support moving to Constitutional Declaration of Syria, rather than the Constitutional Declaration of the Syrian Arab Republic or the 2025 interim constitution of Syria - per WP:COMMONNAME, tons of sources (only one example was provided), and search results (1,440,000), compared to the current title that trails slightly behind with 1,170,000 results. I'm against the implementation of Syrian Arab Republic into the title since it's not the COMMONNAME, but rather the official name. It trails further behind with 589,000 results. Freedoxm (talk · contribs) 00:25, 5 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  You may have not noticed my comment about capitalization (case). If we use a title that is not the actual title of the document, it should use WP:SENTENCECASE. The Al Jazeera article that you cited does not contain "Constitutional Declaration of Syria" (whether capitalized or lowercase). It refers to the document as "a temporary constitution" (lowercase), "the constitutional declaration" (lowercase), and "the document". —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 00:42, 5 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  If we go with "of Syria" rather than Syrian Arab Republic, we should use "Constitutional declaration" or "Temporary constitutional declaration". Katzrockso (talk) 21:32, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Support Constitutional Declatation of Syria per Freedoxm. The official name can go in the lede.← Metallurgist (talk) 23:29, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  If we do something like that, I believe "Declaration" should be in lowercase, since I think the title is unsourced and thus not a proper name. I also think it might not be the first constitutional declaration of Syria in history, so removing "2025" from the title might not be a good idea. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 02:06, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Support Constitutional Declaration of Syria, which is capitalized in the majority of sources that reference it (similar to the U.S. Constitution). 🐔 Chicdat  ^{Bawk to me!} 11:22, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Can you list some sources that use "Constitutional Declaration of Syria"? It does not seem commonly used in reliable sources to me (especially with capital letters like that). It is not in the above-cited Al Jazeera article, and I can find it only in a very small number of rather obscure sources. The Google search link above is not for the exact phrase (perhaps this should work better, but it finds almost nothing). Please note also that Wikipedia does not use "U.S. Constitution" as an article title; it uses "Constitution of the United States". —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 11:36, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support '2025 interim constituon of Syria'. There is a mix of lowercase and uppercase capitalization.

We should keep at sentence case while the secondary sources on this proliferate in order to prevent the circularity of Wikipedia creating a "common name"

[1] "Syria’s newly approved constitutional declaration, meant to govern the country’s transitional phase"

[2] "The Syrian constitutional declaration of 2025 is an important milestone in Syria’s political transition after the collapse of the Assad regime"

For some examples of lowercase

Strongly oppose "Constitutional Declaration of Syria" in the strongest possible sense, a title that exists in less than 10 English language sources and would amount to Wikipedia fabricating a neologism as a common name. Katzrockso (talk) 00:16, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for confirming. I wasn't sure whether I was doing something incorrectly or had bad internet access, but my exact string search for "Constitutional Declaration of Syria" indeed found less than 10 non-Wikipedia sources, most of which used lowercase. The few sources that it found appeared to be relatively low quality ones or not independent of each other (e.g., four of them were from Syrian Times). —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 01:32, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"Constitutional Declaration of the Syrian Arab Republic" would be much better than the title with Syria, as it has a decent amount of usage. But it's unclear what name will have enduring usage and most articles on the document often call it the "constitutional declaration" in lowercase in prose. Katzrockso (talk) 06:46, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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