Talk:Fidesz#rfc 795B2D6


Anti-LGBTQ ideology

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The Fidesz is opposing the LGBTQ propaganda in Hungary, like the KDNP and the Our Homeland Movement party. These 3 political parties opposing the Same Sex Marriages, and the LGBT couples, who they adopting the children in Hungary. The Fidesz also opposes the LGBTQ ideology. That's why i created the Organisations that opposes LGBT rights in Hungary page. The Fidesz, the KDNP and the Our Homeland Movement is part of the Anti-LGBTQ ideology. Just these 3 parties. KovZXad1970 (talk) 20:07, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Non-neutral

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In similar vein to my comment on the talk page of Criticism of Fidesz, this page is not neutral. Fidesz is known to be practically synonymous with Viktor Orbán, his political vehicle. There are ample sources that show how Fidesz has undermined democracy and the judiciary in Hungary and how it favours businesses linked to Viktor Orbán. A recent study concludes [1]:

These effects clearly show the systemic prevalence of political favoritism under the Orbán regime: crony companies enjoy this policy. Thus, the results provide evidence that we can consider the Orbán regime as the instigator and supporter of a crony system in Hungary. Moreover, it can be argued that the favoritism prevailing in this system through family relationships and close friendships could be seen as a kleptocracy, where close friends could be fronts for the political leader himself.

The article also includes non-npov content, such as:

"The strong and preeminent Fidesz has benefited from the fragmented and disjointed opposition that has proved inept at mounting a unified challenge to the ruling party "...

Hungary is not seen as a democratic country any more by many academics and democracy raters. These are not subjective opinions but facts based on agreed metrics. This needs to be given more prominent scope in the article. --Jabbi (talk) 12:54, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Far right?

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a source backing Fidesz as a far right party is needed. I know Fidesz is a right wing commentator party, but not a radical or reactionary far right party. דולב חולב (talk) 23:40, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There are dozens of sources describing the party as "far-right" in the body of the article. Please read the article. – GlowstoneUnknown (Talk) 14:51, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There’s none. Only one source saying Orban planing to create a “far right bloc”. But not a source saying it’s a far right party. It doesn’t make sense to call them that way. דולב חולב (talk) 01:28, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please read the article, they are present in the article body. – GlowstoneUnknown (Talk) 01:29, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Right wing source

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https://politpro.eu/en/hungary/parties דולב חולב (talk) 23:42, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hardly a WP:RS, and definitely not compliant with WP:DUE to use this as an excuse to exclude "far-right". – GlowstoneUnknown (Talk) 14:50, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is not an “excuse” far right parties are reactionary parties like The AFD of Germany who seek for a radical change in society. Right wing parties like Fidesz only seek to preserve it.
This is a good source. I don’t get the disrespectful behavior.
Do you have a source backing Fidesz as a far right Party? דולב חולב (talk) 01:25, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As I've said, there are dozens already present in the article. – GlowstoneUnknown (Talk) 01:26, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Dozen of sources? True
None of them describing Fidesz as a far right party. דולב חולב (talk) 01:29, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please read the article, they are under the "Ideology and policies" section. – GlowstoneUnknown (Talk) 01:31, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Here, actually all sources mentioned are calling it a right wing party and NOT a far right partyhttps://www.economist.com/blogs/dailychart/2010/12/fidesz
https://web.archive.org/web/20160106082200/http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/right-wing-fidesz-party-wins-by-landslide-in-hungary-elections/story-e6frfku0-1225852566022
http://www.english.rfi.fr/europe/20100412-right-wing-fidesz-win-election-landslide דולב חולב (talk) 01:34, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please read WP:AGEMATTERS and WP:RS. None of those articles comply with both. – GlowstoneUnknown (Talk) 01:37, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. But no reliable article describing the party as far right. דולב חולב (talk) 02:59, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please read the article. – GlowstoneUnknown (Talk) 03:08, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]