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This article needs a complete rewrite. It's badly organized and the dates show up without accompanying years so that it's impossible to follow events within sections or see how they relate to events in other sections. 100.15.120.122 (talk) 00:35, 23 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, this article clearly needs a lot of work and especially clearer organization. Chamboz (talk) 23:17, 16 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the article needs a rewrite, and if I may notice, the German version of the article, gives a far better overview of the events and important battles. Here in English version it all ends with Siege of Vienna, which makes no sense. Unfortunately, my German is not good enough to translate it to English, but I suggest just translating and incorporating the important events (Siege of Buda, Second Battle of Mohacs, Battle of Zenta, etc) from German version here. Franjo Tahy (talk) 10:59, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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As per the argument for naming the Second Northern War, the names provided should be names that find results relating to that topic. Eg: If you search up "x", you should find results related to "x", not "y". The second (Last Crusade) and third (Disaster Years) names don't pop-up results relating to the Great Turkish War, but the fourth (Fourteenth Crusade) does .

This is why we should eliminate the second and third names from the page. PortugueseWikiMan (talk) 21:53, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am seeing some (but not many) relevant results searching Google scholar[1] for Felaket Seneleri (ie the disaster years). I am not seeing relevant results for the Last Crusade. Cinderella157 (talk) 00:22, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Does anyone have a source for it? I dont see explicit references/citation for it on this page, just a listing of the Spanish Empire on one side. Spain was still under the Habsburgs in this period true but a different branch that had seperated, they were distinctly seperated as polities at this stage unlike during Charles V’s life time. M.S. Asher (talk) 15:31, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Spanish participation is not supported by the body of the article. I have removed it from the infobox. Cinderella157 (talk) 00:08, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I left a similar note on the War of the Spanish Succession talk page, but to clarify an edit I recently made: it's apparent actually reading the original (secondary) source that this number isn't for all belligerents, it's specifically for the Holy Roman Empire and the Ottoman Empire together. This number appears to have originated from Jack S. Levy in "War in the Modern Great Power System, 1495-1975", University Press of Kentucky 1983, p. 88-89. On table 4.1, the "severity" of the Great Turkish War (here just called "Ottoman War: 1682-1699") is listed as 384,000, while the "extent" of it is listed as 2. On the same pages, these terms are defined: "severity - battle deaths; extent - number of Powers." In the greater context of this book specifically about the great powers, he's pretty clearly only listing the deaths of said great powers rather than all military deaths. You can check other examples on the same page to verify this - the Franco-Mexican War's "severity" is listed as 8,000 (which is the French death toll, Mexican losses were at least several tens of thousands), the Sino-French War's is listed as 2,000, the Suez Crisis's (here called "Sinai War") is listed as 30, and most obviously the Vietnam War's is listed as 58,000. So Russia, Poland, and Venice wouldn't have their death tolls counted in that 384,000 (for proof he doesn't consider any of them to be great powers at this time, look at the same page where the 1677-1681 Russo-Turkish War, 1645-1669 Turkish-Venetian War, and 1672-1676 Turkish-Polish War are all listed as having an extent of 1).--Nihlus1 (talk) 17:06, 26 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]