Talk:Public Interest Research Group#requestedit

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Hello, I will start by saying that while I have a history of doing small edits or adds to wikipedia pages, this is my first project doing a massive overhaul of a page and writing new ones.

Essentially, as someone who has been an intern with CALPIRG, employee of the Fund, and employee of the Student PIRGs, I am absolutely sure that the wikipedia page as it exists now does not accurately reflect the structure or relationships between the different groups within the Public Interest Network. I see that previously, someone had clarified it to be a lot better than it was before, but I think the important distinction is the PIRG page is slightly convoluted with The Public Interest Network (TPIN) which is not exactly the same as "the PIRGs"

U.S. PIRG and the state PIRGs are separate nonprofits -- i.e. U.S. PIRG is not the "boss" or overarching entity of the state PIRGs as is implied by the current article. Additionally, U.S. PIRG is not the same as TPIN, and the Fund is further separated from those other two entities.

It will take a bit to assemble all of the elements to start restructuring this way, but I hope to slowly separate them into separate wikis. Ideally, the TPIN article would be the only one which shows a direct relation to all of the others. Elvishrose (talk) 17:38, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.

This is my first time posting, so I suspect I didn't add the "connected contributor" reference properly. Please let me know how to properly make the declaration.

To Elvishrose's point, may I suggest the following small changes to the intro paragraph:

"Public Interest Research Groups (PIRGs) are U.S. and Canadian[4] non-profit organizations that employ grassroots organizing and direct advocacy on issues such as consumer protection, public health and transportation. Many of the PIRGs are closely affiliated with the Fund for the Public Interest...."

That is, many, but not nearly all, PIRGs are "federated". (Let me know if you need a list of those that are not significantly affiliated with each other.) So, it's more accurate to knock out the phrase "a federation of" and to add "Many of" to the reference to the Fund for the Public Interest. Wynott (talk) 17:51, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

https://pirg.org/about/ seems to say otherwise. ManducatingMouser (talk) 07:55, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your response. The PIRG.org/about webpage refers to a federation of most, but not all, of the PIRGs. For example, the map does not show the PIRGs in Minnesota and Montana, as they're not affiliated with USPIRG It also doesn't show any of the PIRGs in Canada, as there are no links between the US and Canadian PIRGs. 71.218.111.44 (talk) 19:11, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also, the map refers just to affiliations via USPIRG. However, the current text refers to affiliation via the Fund for the Public Interest. In addition to the non-USPIRG groups, the PIRGs in New York and Vermont are not a part of the Fund for the Public Interest. 71.218.111.44 (talk) 19:16, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I have made the necessary changes, thank you. ManducatingMouser (talk) 08:47, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. 71.218.117.102 (talk) 17:52, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have a few other suggested changes to a part of the intro section, which is a bit outdated.

It now reads "employ grassroots organizing and direct advocacy on issues such as consumer protection, public health and transportation".

The first part doesn't include the two types of work that are most employed by the PIRGs: research (which is, after all, their middle name) and public education.

The second part doesn't include several of the issues on which it now works most: waste and recycling, clean water and air, and energy.

I recommend tweaking the text to read "...employ research, public education, grassroots organizing and direct advocacy on issues such as consumer protection, clear water and air, waste and recycling, energy, public health and transportation." 71.218.117.102 (talk) 18:12, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Already done Dahawk04 (talk) 00:55, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. 71.218.117.102 (talk) 17:51, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Maryland Public Interest Research Group article has been unsourced for 13 years. Instead of deletion, a smerger might be needed. Bearian (talk) 21:00, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds right to me. Marquardtika (talk) 21:33, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What is a "smerger"? 71.218.117.102 (talk) 22:18, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

And, yes, the article is rather out-of-date, but could easily be updated. 71.218.117.102 (talk) 22:20, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]