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This page is to nominate fresh articles to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page with a "hook" (an interesting fact). Nominations that have been approved are moved to a staging area and then promoted into the Queue. To update this page, purge it.

Count of DYK Hooks
Section	# of Hooks	# Verified
September 28	1
October 5	2	2
October 7	1	1
October 8	1	1
October 9	2	1
October 10	2	2
October 11	3	3
October 12	1	1
October 13	2	1
October 14	1	1
October 15	2	2
October 16	2	2
October 17	1	1
October 18	1	1
October 19	4	4
October 20	3	1
October 21	2	1
October 22	2	2
October 23	5	4
October 24	3	1
October 25	4	3
October 26	6	3
October 27	3	2
October 28	3	3
October 29	5	5
October 30	3	2
October 31	5	5
November 1	5	5
November 2	4	4
November 3	5	4
November 4	4	3
November 5	5	4
November 7	8	6
November 8	7	7
November 9	3	3
November 10	7	7
November 11	7	7
November 12	6	5
November 13	6	4
November 14	10	9
November 15	8	8
November 16	4	4
November 17	3	3
November 18	5	4
November 19	12	9
November 20	4	3
November 21	11	7
November 22	6	4
November 23	8	6
November 24	6	5
November 25	14	9
November 26	13	12
November 27	6	6
November 28	8	8
November 29	13	10
November 30	14	9
December 1	8	7
December 2	4	4
December 3	10	6
December 4	7	2
December 5	10	4
December 6	5	3
December 7	12	8
December 8	11	8
December 9	10	1
December 10	1
Total	360	273
Last updated 13:38, 10 December 2025 UTC Current time is 13:59, 10 December 2025 UTC [refresh]

How do I write an interesting hook?

Successful hooks tend to have several traits. Most importantly, they share a surprising or intriguing fact. They give readers enough context to understand the hook, but leave enough out to make them want to learn more. They are written for a general audience who has no prior knowledge of or interest in the topic area. Lastly, they are concise, and do not attempt to cover multiple facts or present information about the subject beyond what's needed to understand the hook.

When will my nomination be reviewed?

This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until an editor reviews it. Since editors are encouraged to review the oldest submissions first, it may take several weeks until your submission is reviewed. In the meantime, please consider reviewing another submission (not your own) to help reduce the backlog (see instructions below). Because of WP:DYKTIMEOUT, a nomination should be reviewed within two months since the reviewer/promoter may agree to reject and close an unpromoted hook after that time has passed.

Where is my hook?

If you can't find the nomination you submitted to this nominations page, it may have been approved and is on the approved nominations page waiting to be promoted. It could also have been added to one of the prep areas, promoted from prep to a queue, or is on the main page.

If the nominated hook is in none of those places, then the nomination has probably been rejected. Such a rejection usually only occurs if it was at least a couple of weeks old and had unresolved issues for which any discussion had gone stale. If you think your nomination was unfairly rejected, you can query this on the DYK discussion page or with the closer, but as a general rule such nominations will only be restored in exceptional circumstances. If your nomination was promoted, but it hasn't reached the main page after two weeks, you can also query this on the DYK discussion page.

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To post a comment or review on a DYK nomination, follow the steps outlined below:

• Look through this page, Template talk:Did you know, to find a nomination you would like to comment on.
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If there is any problem or concern about a nomination, please consider notifying the nominator by placing {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page.

Handy copy sources:

• Open the DYK nomination subpage of the nomination you would like to remove.
• In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line {{DYKsubpage with {{subst:DYKsubpage, and replace |passed= with |passed=no. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.
• Alternatively, you can use PSHAW, which automates the process.

• Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
• Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
  • View the edit history for that page
  • Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
  • Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
• Add a transclusion of the template back to this page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from this page.
• If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.

• Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.

• ... that Voltio is named after the volt?

• ALT1: ... that Voltio (cars pictured) has the biggest car fleet in Spain? Source: [2] Voltio se consolida como el servicio de coche compartido líder en España al poseer la mayor flota del país. Voltio consolidates itself as the leader of carsharing in Spain as it has the biggest fleet in the country.
• ALT2: ... that Voltio's name derives from an expression that translates to "going for a walk"? Source: [3] [El nombre] se complementa con el significado coloquial 'darse un voltio', salir de algún lugar para dar una vuelta. [The name] complements with the coloquial meaning of 'darse un voltio', meaning to go for a walk.
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Morozova Mansion
• Comment: Reverosie moved it to mainspace.

Earth605^talk 15:17, 28 September 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• @Earth605: Article is new and long enough, external policy compliant, and is presentable. The hooks are cited to reliable sources and are interesting. Images are freely licensed and a QPQ was carried out. ALT0 is a bit of a borderline case for interestingness; it's common for companies to be named after their industry and some may not find it interesting. ALT1 is a contentious claim; although the policy states that it's okay to have such hooks, it's a bit controversial these days to nominate such a hook, and it's a little promotional for my liking. I will approve ALT2, but the source says that the phrase complements the company's name, not that the company was named after that specific phrase (courtesy pinging Reverosie, who may be interested in this discussion). Icepinner 03:14, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for reviewing! One detail. I did not need to do the QPQ, I just mentioned it cuz why not? About ALT0, the company is a carsharing company, not an electricity company. ALT1 was meant to be an image hook and ALT2 was the normal hook. ALT2 says that the name "derives" from the expression, which is not the same as it comes from it, but I understand your reasoning. Icepinner Earth605^talk 15:37, 31 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Earth605: Regarding ALT0, I am aware that this is a carsharing company. Reiterating my point, it's common for car companies, and car-sharing companies, to be named after things assoicated with their industry (example: Tesla is named after Nikola Tesla), so I considered it to be a borderline case. However, I am willing to seek out a third opinion for ALT0, if you're interested. The source of ALT2 says A su vez, se complementa con el significado coloquial 'darse un voltio', salir de algún lugar para dar una vuelta, which roughly translates to It is also complemented by the colloquial meaning of 'taking a little break,' which means going out for a walk, meaning it complements the phrase (makes the company's name "Voltio" look better, for a lack of a better word), not that it originated from that specfic phrase. I'm also willing to seek for a third opinion on this hook as well. Icepinner 02:31, 1 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In the case of ALT0, I'm actually okay with it as it (as long as it's made clear that it's referring to the unit volt and not some other usage), but maybe a short clause explaining why would increase hook interest and address the concerns? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:14, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Icepinner and Narutolovehinata5: Sorry for the long wait. I would like another opinion in ALT2. What do you mean: a short clause? Earth605^talk 06:16, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It means that a version of ALT0 that explains why the company was named after the volt could work. So instead of "that Voltio is named after the volt", it could be "that car sharing company Voltio is named after the volt because/to [insert reason here]?" It would admittedly make for a longer hook, but it could also solve the context and interest issues. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:53, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah I wouldn't mind it if ALT0 had a short clause explaning why it was named after the volt. I still think ALT2 has potential, like ALT2a: "... that a Spanish carsharing company's name is complemented by a phrase for "taking a walk"?". Pretty interesting that a carsharing company's name complements an expression for taking a walk. Icepinner 14:40, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I like that! I'll just like to cut the "Spanish" part 'cause of geographical bias like so: ALT2b "... that a carsharing company's name is complemented by a phrase for "taking a walk"?" This here would be perfect, @Icepinner:! Earth605^talk 20:32, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. What do you think of this hook, Narutolovehinata5? Icepinner 01:29, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not the greatest hook out there, but still better than the volt hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:05, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ok then, I shall greenlight ALT2b. Icepinner 03:34, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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@Earth605, Icepinner, Dclemens1971, and HighKing: pulling this because there seems to be an ongoing notability dispute. When the tag is off for good or an AfD has been completed, we can reassess here :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 04:08, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, theleekycauldron, for the notice. I don't have any comments on the subject's notability to warrant its own Wikipedia article, but I note that this nomination is fast approaching WP:DYKTIMEOUT, so this is a matter that needs to be resolved, Earth605 and HighKing. The nomination could be placed on hold if, say, a formal AFD was started. Icepinner 05:13, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Look, it is notable. It is the biggest carsharing company in Spain. I pass Voltio cars every day. Also, there are innumerable US carsharing articles. Getaround, Gig Car Share, Uhaul Car Share and Zipcar. There are many diverse articles of a lot of countries, but there is 1 carsharing Spanish article. I've changed the writing a bit to emphasize this. @HighKing: this is notable Earth605^talk 06:55, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Earth605 I spotted this at DYK and rather than take it straight to AfD I though it best to tag the article with a detailed reasoning as to why it was tagged. There hasn't been any engagement with the concerns and it may be that they weren't understood or were too vague so I've provided reasoning and an analysis of sources on your Talk page. None meet the criteria for establishing notability and searching myself, I can't locate anything that meets the criteria but if you can, ping me at your talk page with a link to the article and pointing out which paragraph or part of the article you believe meets the criteria. If we can get a couple of sources, we can remove the tag on the article.

@Theleekycauldron, Icepinner, and Highking: The nomination will turn two months old in a couple of days, so in the interest of having a resolution either way, I would suggest starting an AFD. The nomination will go on hold anyway once that happens, so either way, the nomination won't be closed or proceed until after the AFD finishes. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:12, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. I note that Earth605 has not yet responded to Highking's comment on their talk page; they may still be busy finding sources to address Highking's concerns. Best to take this to AFD so that if the article was notable, then it would still have a chance at DYK. Icepinner 00:23, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@HighKing: Re-ping due to a typo. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:13, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to also point out that this was accepted by Reverosie via AFC. If you don't know her, she was awarded editor of the week in Aug 2025 as she reviewed lots of GAs since starting Wikipedia in May 2025. Looking at her talk page, she agreed to review and accept one of Earth's drafts. I normally expect articles to be accepted via AFD if there is a good chance the article will survive an AFD. JuniperChill (talk) 21:49, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, @Icepinner, Narutolovehinata5, Dclemens1971, HighKing, Theleekycauldron, Reverosie, and JuniperChill:, I was to busy on the other side of Wikipedia. I have responded HighKing's comment, and I went searching for sources 4 seconds. Are we ready to go? Earth605^talk 06:10, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No, disappointingly I don't think this is ready to go. You responded by mentioning two sources which I'd already commented on. They do not meet GNG/NCORP, I've provided reasoning. I'll see how this pans out but perhaps AfD is where this one is heading after all. HighKing⁺⁺ 18:57, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also - if anyone feels it is better to put it to AfD, feel free, in the interests of time. I have to say, if the concern is solely about whether this notable, I'm happy to give Earthsea a chance to come up with sourcing that meets GNG/NCORP, but if there is a time-sensitivity about DYK, then feel free to get it to AfD. HighKing⁺⁺ 19:04, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@HighKing: The nomination turns two months old on November 28 (it already is where I am), which would make it eligible for timing out, so it is probably better to bring this to AFD. AFD would give the benefit of the nomination being put on hold until after the discussion, so it would act like an extension giving the circumstances. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:25, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Just as an update: HighKing has nominated this for AfD 9 hours ago, Therefore, this nomination cannot be marked for closure unless article is deleted. JuniperChill (talk) 18:39, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies, I am not familiar with DYK so didn't realise I should notify here. HighKing⁺⁺ 16:32, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

On hold pending the results of the AFD discussion. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 21:57, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Wanda Perdelwitz (pictured) played a police woman whose long hair was cut off during an attack?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Louis Tomlinson

Thriley (talk) 18:02, 15 October 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Article meets all DYK criteria. Article new enough, substantially long, has well-structured prose, well-sourced, presentable, and maintains a neutral tone. Hook is interesting, short, and supported by inline citation. Image is free and used in article. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 15:40, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Reviewing this one for promotion, and I don't think a hook about a particular role being played is inherently interesting or unusual -- actors play many different kinds of roles, so this falls into the "did you know this person did her job?" category for me. The circumstances of her death, meanwhile, are attention-catching since dooring is not usually thought of as a serious risk by drivers. I don't think the following would be too sensationalistic, but let me know what you think:

ALT1: ... that actress Wanda Perdelwitz (pictured) died from injuries after being doored while riding a bike?

ALT2: ... that as a child, actress Wanda Perdelwitz (pictured) often watched her mother perform from backstage at the Deutsches Theater?

@Thriley, Gerda Arendt, Rigg, and Jeromi Mikhael: Note that there is no source for the claim that the car was in a place it was not permitted to be, and the claim is not validated in other citations. If that's mentioned in another source, can someone add a footnote there? Dclemens1971 (talk) 04:10, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'd go for the original hook. It's not about a role but her real hair was cut, and it shows how far she went for a role. It also explains why she didn't look that when she died, and it's the only pic we have of her. To focus on her death or on her early childhood says nothing about her, as far as I can see. "Actress" can mean so many things that it's almost meaningless. Perhaps ALT0 can be worded differently. - Where the car parked, was of no consequence, - the tragedy was that the car's door was opened into the (narrow) bike path. There are photos in sources such as #7, Treskow. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:11, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What you described (her cutting her hair specifically for the role) is slightly more interesting the hook itself, but it still strikes me as pretty normal for an actor to change his or her hairstyle for a role. Any other ideas? P.S. The apparent original research in the article about the driver being in an impermissible area needs to be sourced or removed. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:23, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I made the hook to go with the image showing her striking hair. It doesn't really work without it. Thriley (talk) 02:20, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Thriley: As I noted above, the original hook is not worded in a way that draws that connection. It is also highly likely that if this hook runs it will do so without a photo, so it must be interesting/engaging to the reader without an image. I don't think the approved hook is interesting and I'm unwilling to promote it as is, but I don't see any interest in new hooks. I will remove my question tag so that Jeromi Mikhael's approval of ALT0 will stand and another promoter may approve if they wish. Dclemens1971 (talk) 12:55, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Are you aware that this nomination was approved? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:57, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Gerda Arendt: Of course I was aware, as my comments above clearly indicate. I raised this conversation because I am worried that the current approved hook will not actually make it onto the homepage and I thought some alternatives would help. The other participants are uninterested in alternatives so the hook may stand and another promoter can choose what to do. Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:01, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If you look at the article history, you see a lot of movement in what we say about the accident, especially about the helmet (in some headlines). We can drop the half sentence about the stopping place, it's not relevant, - the door into the bike path (which is just marked by a line) is. Triley? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:09, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I like ALT2. Really don't want to focus on her death. Thriley (talk) 00:09, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I would like ALT2 if she followed her mother's path to stage theatre, but she was popular (really) for popular tv series, especially a long-running one. Perhaps name Großstadtrevier in an ALT0a. Really don't want to focus on her death. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:03, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ALT3 ... that Wanda Perdelwitz (pictured) played a police sergeant on the TV show Großstadtrevier who was described as "impetuous, courageous" and "a little girly"?
• ALT4 ... that in 2017, Wanda Perdelwitz (pictured) who played a police sergeant on the TV show Großstadtrevier, received an award naming her "Coolste Kommissarin"?

Thriley (talk) 20:42, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• on hold while issues are resolved; reviewers needed for ALTs 1–4. (I would also submit that ALT0 is likely a DYKFICTION fail.) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 03:20, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  I think you might be the one to word better in an ALT0a that it wasn't fiction but her real hair. My language isn't sufficient but I feel that its a stronger fact than the latest ALTs, + explaining the image. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:52, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Others have already discussed the article here, so I will be focusing on the hooks only. ALT3 and ALT4 are both rejected: quote hooks have tended to underperform on DYK lately, and I cannot see how either would break that pattern. The original hook is also rejected on DYKFICTION grounds.

Both the nominator and main article contributor have stated their preference for ALT2. I would rather not go with ALT1, but the issue here is that ALT1 will almost certainly attract more readers than ALT2. If the main contributors would be fine sacrificing readership if it means not highlighting her tragic death, then I can approve ALT2 only.

ALT1 and ALT2 are cited inline and have been verified in their respective sources, but per the above discussion, ALT2 is considered the primary hook and ALT1 is merely a backup. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:32, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

People reading the main page had already a chance to learn that she died. None of her achievements, no image. This would be a chance for DYK: to say what she stood for in life. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:48, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Dclemens1971: Just to clarify, have the OR issues been addressed yet? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:34, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Gerda Arendt: Are there any potential Christmas hooks for this article? Thriley (talk) 21:22, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I nominated my Christmas hook. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:56, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think making a hook related to Perdelwitz performing in a Christmas play or film might be a nice solution. Do you agree? Thriley (talk) 21:59, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No. Confronting readers with this sad death for Christmas is the last thing I'd want. Better no DYK. Perhaps go to WT:DYK and try to find someone to pass ALT3 or ALT4, really good hooks in my book (with a focus on what she was known for + a bit quirky), but I can't approve them. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:24, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jeromi Mikhael, what do you think about ALT3 and ALT4? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:27, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ALT3a: ... that Wanda Perdelwitz (pictured) portrayed a police sergeant on the TV series Großstadtrevier over ten years?
• ALT4a: ... that Wanda Perdelwitz (pictured) earned an award for her portrayal of a police sergeant on the TV series Großstadtrevier?
• ALT0a: ... that Wanda Perdelwitz (pictured), portraying a police sergeant on a TV series, had her real long hair cut off in an episode with an attack on her character?

Better wording welcome. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:54, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ALT3a isn't that unusual: it is not uncommon for actors to play a role for several years, especially for long-running series. ALT4a is better, but again, not too unusual. I'd be most open to ALT0a or a variant; however, the main issue I have with this angle, even though it is one I can live with, is that it is not unusual for actors to have their hair cut (or grow their hair) for a role. It would be more interesting or unusual if, for example, she had never cut her hair before this scene, but there's no such context given in their article. If there are really no other options, I am open to that angle, but I do not think that it is very interesting or unusual. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:37, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Having said that, if we go with ALT0a, I disagree that it is a DYKFICTION violation, because her hair being cut is a real-life event, not an in-universe one (i.e. the actress's hair did actually get cut). The issue remains if the hair cut angle is interesting or not, because hair being cut is far from uncommon in media. ALT2 also remains an option if this angle doesn't work out either way. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:02, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

She deserves a picture, I think, and her former hair is pictured, and she looked drastically different afterwards. The little bit about the police officer being attacked is from the fiction but I think adds a bit more interest. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:52, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Bill Cottrell went from being an "unheralded" high school player for a poor team to a starter in the NFL?

• ALT1: ... that football player Bill Cottrell was the first black center in the NFL? Source: Free Press
• ALT2: ... that it was thought that black men could not play the "thinking man's'" position of center in the NFL until the career of Bill Cottrell? Source: same
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Barbados–Indonesia relations (2/2)

BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:01, 13 October 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Comment: future reviewer, ALT1 is permissible; see 4meter4's comment on Template:Did you know nominations/Jocelyn Borgella. I myself will not review this. Roast (talk) 21:40, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• The article is new enough (promoted to GA on 13 October 2025), is long enough (5449 characters of prose), has no apparent copyright issues (per GA review), and is presentable (per GA review and readthrough). I find the hook hard to read, where "unheralded" and "starter" seem to be jargon and "poor" is ambiguous. I think ALT2 could be seen as contentious when it doesn't specify who thought this. So I would prefer ALT1, which is cited, short enough, and interesting. A similar hook was previously pulled, but according to User:Guerreroast, it is permissible in the current nomination. QPQ is done. I am passing ALT1. – Editør (talk) 10:46, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  @BeanieFan11 and Editør: ALT1 definitely should not be phrased that confidently, as the source states "[Cottrell] is believed to be the first Black center". Adding that hedging to the phrasing would definitely detract from its hookiness, though, so can one of the other hooks be rephrased to address the concerns in Editør's review, or another hook proposed? (please  mention me on reply) —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 06:55, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  The source also says "NFL's first Black center" in the title and "He was the first." in a quote, though. – Editør (talk) 17:38, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  "NFL's first black center" is an exceptional claim, and thus ideally we need to have multiple strong sources and not just a single reference for it. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:53, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Will look into this tomorrow. BeanieFan11 (talk) 04:24, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  headlines are not reliable sources. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 02:42, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@BeanieFan11: It has been a few days since your comment, please respond to the above concern. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:07, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

How about ... that according to an NFL alumni attorney, it was thought that black men could not play the "thinking man's'" position of center in the NFL until the career of Bill Cottrell? / ... that Bill Cottrell went from playing for a high school team that had 32-consecutive losses to starting for an NFL team? BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:45, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The first option seems too complicated. The second sounds better. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:32, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• @TechnoSquirrel69: This nomination is turning two months old in a few days, could you please make a decision regarding the new hooks? Editør has not edited since November 29, so a new reviewer is needed anyway. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:16, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that there was a "deputy" in Ussuriysk who solved the city's problems in extremely unusual ways?

• ALT1: ... that a fictional deputy was arrested in Russia for exposing a fictional police lieutenant colonel?

• ALT2: ... that for the video where a fictional Russian deputy allegedly detonates a bus stop with a grenade launcher, the authors of the YouTube channel face 15 years in prison?

• Reviewed:
• Comment: My first nomination, I'm sorry if I made a mistake somewhere.

Mirvers (talk) 18:15, 21 October 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Striking ALTs 0 and 1, as they write from an in-universe perspective. Also, there are a couple of uncited sentences that should probably be fixed. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 04:04, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@RiiffTower: Please address the above.--Launchballer 13:37, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! I'm terribly sorry. I didn't notice your message and have been a little busy these last few days. Can you please clarify where exactly the missing citations are in the text? I noticed two sentences without sources related to YouTube channel information only. Is there anything else? RiiffTower (talk) 10:19, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I removed them both and will review this shortly.--Launchballer 17:33, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@RiiffTower: Long enough, new enough. QPQ unnecessary and Earwig is clean. There is an {{orphan}} template on the page, and this can be resolved by linking the article at Kansk and Ussuriysk, but this isn't technically a DYK issue. What is, however, is that I'm not convinced ALT2 will fly on WP:DYKBLP grounds; I can suggest ALT3: ... that Vitaly Nalivkin (pictured) was awarded an anti-award for his questionable achievements in the field of law? or (something like) ALT4: ... that the actor who played a successful character in a sketch show (pictured) was still living in poverty five years into playing him? Also, I've never seen that image tag before - @Nikkimaria:, could you confirm it's valid?--Launchballer 00:39, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but should be accompanied by a permission ticket. Nikkimaria (talk) 00:43, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Jeff Baena was encouraged to pitch his nun comedy movie The Little Hours after talking about medieval literature (depicted) while high and watching DOGTV?
  • ALT1: ... that members of the six-person crew for The Little Hours had to light some scenes with candles, which the cinematographer wicked herself?
  • ALT2: ... that preemptive religious criticism about nun movie The Little Hours ended up being used in an R-rated trailer to promote the movie?
  • ALT3: ... that Aubrey Plaza and the weed nuns got high to promote her producing debut movie, The Little Hours?
  • ALT4: ... that writer-director Jeff Baena was high when he came up with The Little Hours, and producer-actor Aubrey Plaza was high when she promoted it (both pictured)?
  • ALT5: ... that The Little Hours was based on at least three stories from The Decameron, primarily the third day (depicted)?
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/They Live on The Land and Template:Did you know nominations/Elene Lete
  • Comment: Sources in article, other hook suggestions welcome!

Kingsif (talk) 21:15, 20 October 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Drive-by comment: there is absolutely no way that the image shown to illustrate The Decameron in the hook and the article is attributable to Boccacio (who did not illustrate anything); it looks like a very modern, and therefore quite possibly copyrighted, illustration. This would be a good substitute in the article; do we really need it in the hook as well? Dahn (talk) 21:39, 16 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• @Dahn: The image you link - along with every single Commons image for the Decameron I saw when looking for one to add to the article - also has Boccaccio listed as the creator. Maybe he did illustrate, I doubt the Boccaccio museum is getting its attribution that wrong. Kingsif (talk) 04:50, 30 November 2025 (UTC) (More to the point, the illustration in this nom and the article is from the publication by Francisque Reynard, who was born in 1835, so unless he was particularly long-lived, it's still PD-old.) Kingsif (talk) 04:58, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As for an image in the hook: DYK image hooks are often buildings and portraits. When I build preps, I try to add variety; when I nom hooks, if it's possible, I try to suggest other kinds of images, too, for other prepbuilders to have more options and our readers to see different things. It's providing an option. Kingsif (talk) 04:54, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Kingsif: Where does one find the attribution of the image on the museum page? The Commons page only gives a rawlink. Dahn (talk) 04:59, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Dahn: My mistake if the file data isn't scraped directly from the museum website, but the point was simply that for both images, the file seems to have the same error (saying Boccaccio is the image author) but the license is still correct. Kingsif (talk) 05:06, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The image is now credited to "Gershkovich", who appears to be Yuri Gershkovich. A Soviet artist who died in 2013. The image is very much copyrighted, and it should be removed from commons ASAP, along with any other image that was uploaded in this fashion. It obviously does njot matter when Francisque Reynard died, since these are copyrighted illustrations to her reedited public-domain work -- her PD status does not transfer to the illustrator. Dahn (talk) 05:04, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's credited to "Gerskovich", actually. Come back with proof that it wasn't Reynard instead of guessing and asserting? Kingsif (talk) 05:06, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This is moving beyond ridiculous! First of all, Reynard never illustrated anything (just like Boccaccio didn't), so the claim that she did would require proof from whomever is sticking by it. Second of all, you never actually provided a link to where the museum credits the illustrator. Third (and final), I looked it up for you: Dekameron. I / Traduzione di N. Ljubimov ; illustrazioni di Ju. Gerskovich -- clearly crediting Yuri Gershkovich as the illustrator and the publication date as 1987. (Incidentally, this is also not the Reynard translation into French, but a Russian translation). Are we done here? Dahn (talk) 05:19, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• I need to make this very clear to anyone taking an interest in this issue: the illustration presented with this hook has several faux licenses, including a statement that: "The author died in 1375, so this work is in the public domain in its country of origin and other countries and areas where the copyright term is the author's life plus 100 years or fewer." This is based on the absurd claim that the illustration is Boccacio's work, a claim that the same caption now contradicts, since Yuri Gershkovich (who died in 2013) is also credited as an author -- he is in fact the only actual author that the image has, whereas Boccacio is the author of the text which the image illustrated. All such uploads from that series should therefore be scrubbed from Commons. Dahn (talk) 15:16, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: Does the matter of the copyvio Gershkovich illustration make this nom irreparably unsuitable for DYK at this time? -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 10:43, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No. If the main issue is the images, then the solution is simply to run the article without an image. I imagine though that the rather long and complicated discussion above has discouraged editors from reviewing this. Anyway, a full review is still needed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:40, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thanks. As it is used in the article, it seemed like it might be reason for a "fail". -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 08:22, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If the only issue is the images, but the article itself otherwise meets the requirements and there are no other problems, then the solution is to remove the pictures, not to fail the nomination. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:15, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that OpenAI, the company behind ChatGPT, launched its own web browser, ChatGPT Atlas?

• ALT1: ... that ChatGPT Atlas includes a sidebar that allows users to summarize webpages and analyze data? Source: Bhuiyan, Johana (2025-10-21). "ChatGPT Atlas: OpenAI launches web browser centered around its chatbot". The Guardian. ISSN 0261-3077. Retrieved 2025-10-22.
• ALT2: ... that ChatGPT Atlas, OpenAI's web browser, is built upon the open-source Chromium engine? Source: Warren, Tom (2025-10-21). "OpenAI is about to launch its new AI web browser, ChatGPT Atlas". The Verge. Retrieved 2025-10-22.
• Reviewed:

WhatADrag07 (talk) 19:16, 25 October 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Article is new enough, no copyvio detected, no QPQ needed. ALT1 sounds a bit promotional. ALT0 and ALT2 are cited inline and, though they're just on the line of WP:DYKINT, I'll approve them. ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 03:24, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• @WhatADrag07, Darth Stabro, and HurricaneZeta: I pulled this from the prep area as I just removed two self-published sources, and the {{cn}}s will need to be addressed before this is promoted. Per this discussion, I had concerns about ALT0 (and ALT2, now that I'm seeing it) reading as promotional. There were a couple of other hooks suggested, which y'all might consider here. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 22:19, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • @TechnoSquirrel69: That's fine for now, thanks for fixing and tagging that. Is it alright if I replace it with another hook? Z E T A^C 22:25, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    I just replaced the hook in the prep area. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 22:29, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    • I believe I just found a RS for one of the cn's, so I think this could be on prep 4 soon, after a hook is decided upon. Z E T A^C 22:31, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

      Just fixed both the cns. Z E T A^C 22:37, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Strong objection: It's not a web browser (it makes up its own answers instead of showing you what you ask for). Calling it one is so misleading a s to be outright false. DS (talk) 04:08, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • given that all of the cited reliable sources call it a web browser (and i assume they weren't cherry-picked), not sure there's much we could do about that. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 15:29, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that asylum seekers have been protesting for almost 400 consecutive days in the UNHCR humanitarian center in Agadez, Niger?

• ALT1: ... that refugees have been protesting for 400 consecutive days in the UNHCR humanitarian center in Agadez, Niger? Source: "By late-2025, the protests continue for almost 400 consecutive days, making them one of the longest-running refugee-led demonstrations in North Africa."
• Reviewed:
• Comment: If posted before 27 October, use "almost 400", if posted on 27 October, use "400", if posted after 27 October use "over 400".

Afonso Dimas Martins (talk) 08:44, 24 October 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Well written article on an important topic. My comments are all on the hook. First, it says "in Agadez" rather than "near Agadez" as the article says. Second, and more importantly, we don't have a source for the 400 consecutive days. I see one in article article 303 days (presumably written c.97 days ago). To be able to use the 400 number, we need a source confirming the protests are still going and have remained daily. Onceinawhile (talk) 14:16, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Afonso Dimas Martins: Please address the above.--Launchballer 16:27, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Launchballer, @Onceinawhile, apologies for the late reply - I think I missed a notification of this comment. Most sources mention "in Agadez" so I don't think that would be an issue. As for the 400 consecutive days question, there was no citation at the time mentioning explicitly 400 days, but since it was (and still is) an ongoing protest, it was simple math. Would this citation for 427 days^[1] work?

@Afonso Dimas Martins: Pings don't work if you don't sign your post. Your problem is that sources are snapshots and can't tell you if something's ongoing; what you can say is something like ALT1: ... that protests at a United Nations humanitarian center in Niger began in September 2024? The article still says 'near Agadez' and the title says 'in Agadez' and this needs reconciling.--Launchballer 15:56, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Launchballer thanks again for the tips. I've updated the article. I also agree with the snapshot issue, but I think simply saying the starting date is less impactful as saying something like "for at least 400 consecutive days" since that is supported by that source. But either would be fine by me. Afonso Dimas Martins (talk) 16:18, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You could probably get away with something like ALT2: ... that refugees at a United Nations humanitarian center recently protested for more than 400 days straight?--Launchballer 10:45, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the Prince Group, described by the US Department of Justice as a "sprawling cyber-fraud empire", has stakes in an airline and Cuban cigar distribution?

• • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Yasuyoshi Kato

Asamboi (talk) 18:40, 26 October 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• General eligibility:
• New enough:
• Long enough: - ?

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing:
• Neutral:
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
• Other problems: - ?

Hook eligibility:

• Cited:
• Interesting:
• Other problems: - ?

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Expanded from redirect and nominated within window. QPQ done; only one required. Copyvio Detector clear after I removed some unnecessary quotations from CNN. Three issues: (1) The hook is interesting, but it's not precisely accurate. The DOJ press release describes a sprawling cyber-fraud empire operating under the Prince Group umbrella, which is not necessarily the same as saying the company is the cyber-fraud empire. It could mean that the company provides cover for the scams through its legitimate investments and subsidiaries. That doesn't mean the company isn't a participant in the alleged crimes, just pointing out that the hook doesn't precisely match the source. (2) By attributing the charges to the company and not Chen, we don't automatically implicate a WP:BLPCRIME issue, and AFAIK there is no similar policy about criminal allegations related to companies. But given that Chen was indicted alongside the company, we're verging into BLPCRIME territory with a hook that uses the description of the prosecution in an ongoing case to describe the subject. (3) The "history" section includes a lot of padding on Chen's bio that's unrelated to the Prince Group. If that were to be removed per WP:DUE, we're very close to the DYK character minimum. I also think there's a presentability issue with the quasi-bullet point format of the history section, and I'd like to see that recast in encyclopedic prose. Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:22, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Dclemens1971: Thanks for the review. Point by point:

(1) I see what you're saying. How about this: ...The Prince Group owns an airline, controls Cuban cigar distribution, and according to the US Department of Justice, operates "a sprawling cyber-fraud empire"?

(2) I'm not seeing that this is a problem. The Prince Group as a company is explicitly indicted, and the hook does not mention Chen at all.

(3) Since this is a current news topic, the article is being heavily edited (by other users, not just me). Chen Zhi (businessman) was recently spun off into its own article, and I plan on moving all the biographical bits about Chen into that article.

Also, could you expand on the "Long enough" flag? Per DYKCheck, the article is at 2888 chars, comfortably above 1500 (even after the Chen content above is hived off). Asamboi (talk) 19:50, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Asamboi: (1-2) My concern is that we should not be putting unproven criminal charges on the homepage, even for a company and not a person. How is this for a more factual approach that doesn't involve repeating the prosecutorial perspective: ALT2: ... that the Prince Group owns an airline, controls Cuban cigar distribution—and was sanctioned by British and U.S. authorities as an alleged transnational criminal organization? (Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/10/26/cyber-scamming-prince-group-syndicate-singapore/, https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c70jz8e00g1o). This leaves out the question of guilt or innocence and focuses on facts (sanctions were imposed). (3) My character count once the extraneous info is removed is 1619, which could fall under 1500 easily with a copy edit by another editor. I would focus on fleshing the article out a bit and providing more buffer, as well as prosifying the list-like nature of the "History" section. (I should add that the word count alone won't hold up approval of the nomination, but if another editor trims the page further, a prep builder or queuer might need to bump it back to the unapproved list.) Dclemens1971 (talk) 20:29, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Dclemens1971: I have removed the extraneous content about Chen and the article is still sitting at 2534 chars. I'm happy to sub in your hook.

@Asamboi: I didn't receive the ping because the post wasn't signed. Since I proposed an alternative, it needs another reviewer. Requesting that now. Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:20, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Asamboi: The only interesting thing in ALT2 was "Cuban cigar distribution"; I've just removed the only thing with anything to do with cigars from the article as "a consortium led by Chen" has nothing to do with Prince Group. Also, it's a crying shame this wasn't nominated as a double with Chen, as that would have given a lot more flexibility (hooks beginning "that the owner of Prince Group"/"that a firm owned by Chen Zhi", for example), and I'd be seriously tempted to allow it to be added to this IAR. What do you think @Dclemens1971:?--Launchballer 16:14, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Chen Zhi article did not exist at the time of this DYK nomination, and was seeded with content from this article. I think it would be entirely within the spirit of the rules of DYK to double up or even switch this nomination to it. Asamboi (talk) 21:01, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I just discovered that Dclemens1971 recently went on wikibreak, and WP:DYKSPLIT says "Articles split from new articles or articles with active nominations remain eligible". I'm going to say that yes this can be added as a double nom; what I need from you is a second QPQ and a double hook.--Launchballer 13:01, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Launchballer: Instead of a double hook, just replacing Prince Group with Chen Zhi would be the easiest approach. How's this?

ALT3: ...that Chen Zhi founded an airline, heads a consortium that controls Cuban cigar distribution, and according to the US Department of Justice, operates "a sprawling cyber-fraud empire"? Asamboi (talk) 06:45, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Chen Zhi isn't eligible on its own. I'm IARing it, but it would need to be a double. Also, the "founded an airline" and "sprawling cyber-fraud empire" would qualify for trimming, and "Cuba's largest cigar producer Habanos S.A." isn't quite the same as "controls Cuban cigar distribution". The hook would be ALT3a: ... that the founder of Prince Group headed a consortium in 2021 that bought half of Cuba's largest cigar producer?. Do you plan on supplying a second QPQ?--Launchballer 13:51, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Why would it not be eligible on its own? The WP:DYKSPLIT guideline you yourself quoted above states that Articles split from new articles or articles with active nominations remain eligible, no IAR necessary.

Also, with all due respect, your proposed hook is quite dull. What makes Chen such an interesting character is that he dabbles in real estate, airlines, cigars and forced labor scam camps, and the hook should reflect this. Asamboi (talk) 11:18, 8 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I guess. The QPQ's already been spent on Prince Group, so you'd need a new one for Chen Zhi anyway.--Launchballer 12:03, 8 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No, this is still the same nomination, the content has just been split off into a different article. Asamboi (talk) 20:59, 8 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's one QPQ per article, not per nomination.--Launchballer 00:11, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Asamboi: Please provide an extra QPQ, as the nomination will not be allowed to run as a multi-hook unless one is provided. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:41, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Narutolovehinata5: I'm proposing we run the single hook ALT3 above, not the multi-hook ALT3a. Asamboi (talk) 01:01, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

And I'm saying the QPQ already used on Prince Group cannot be used for Chen Zhi.--Launchballer 01:03, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No, that's not how it works. While QPQs are per article, they are only officially "spent" once a nomination has concluded (QPQs can be used on only one nomination, not "one article"). So if a nomination is initially about one article, but switches to another article mid-nomination, then no new QPQ is necessary since the previous QPQ is not considered "spent". Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:06, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It also says "an article-for-article quid pro quo (QPQ) is required for each nominated article". Chen Zhi is a split and is clearly a second article, even if the first was withdrawn.--Launchballer 01:32, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think this is basically splitting hairs; the spirit of the rule was that "a separate QPQ is needed for each article, but it does not matter what QPQ is used as long as it is not a spent QPQ". I really don't see the need to provide a new QPQ if in the end it's still one article that's being nominated, we just changed which one was being nominated. Technically, I see your point, but the thing here is that the other article has been withdrawn from consideration entirely. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:44, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, that's fine. I think I'll let someone else review the article, though.--Launchballer 02:00, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that in 2025 historians used artificial intelligence to identify Jakobus Onnen as the Nazi gunman in the photograph "The Last Jew in Vinnitsa" (pictured), thereby solving an 80-year-old mystery?

ALT1: ... that artificial intelligence was used to help identify Jakobus Onnen as the gunman in The Last Jew in Vinnitsa (pictured)?

• Reviewed:

TouchedWithFire (talk) 11:04, 24 October 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing: - last seven sentences are not currently cited
• Neutral:
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: @TouchedWithFire: I read the Guardian article awhile ago, pretty interesting. I also took the liberty of adding the photo to the hook. The sources are all legit, but I can't say I disagree with the reader who tagged it as possibly incorporating AI generated text. I removed some of the obvious stuff, but it's still there. Most pressing, the last seven sentences are not currently cited. I've also proposed an ALT1 to make the hook less clunky. 1brianm7 (talk) 02:20, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

1brianm7 Please note, I added more sources, it would be appreciated if you could look at the article again. Thank you. TouchedWithFire (talk) 11:25, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@TouchedWithFire: okay, everything is sourced and the text looks mostly fine, so I’m approving

I think this will have to be pulled. I have serious concerns regarding LLM usage with this article, and further, a read of the German version makes it clear that it is full of factual inaccuracies. It would be embarrassing to let this go to the main page in this state - it needs to be rewritten. MediaKyle (talk) 18:10, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed my approval until this can be resolved. Looking at the German version through Google translate, the only things that stick out are some bad phrasing, redundancy, and a few eh sentences ("reflecting his role as an educated professional within the Nazi academic milieu"). I don't see any factual inaccuracies. The prose has significant similarities with the German article, so I'm fairly certain parts of it were translated (by the creator or an LLM I don't know), but it is not attributed as such. Pinging creator @TouchedWithFire: 1brianm7 (talk) 19:11, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I'm taking a step back. Yesterday I worked on the article for an hour, added sources, and rewrote a large part of it. I wanted to take part in DYK because it seemed interesting and important to me, I hope I'll succeed next time. TouchedWithFire (talk) 04:26, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@TouchedWithFire: I’ve found appearing on DYK to be a fulfilling part of writing an article, I’m sorry that this experience hasn’t been the best for you. If you so desire, I’ll reject this nomination. However, I would recommend against doing so as this can still be accepted until it timeouts in about two months, and you might change your mind. Looking at the article’s content, I don’t see any factual inaccuracies or problem with its biographical content (pinging @MediaKyle: to ask what they saw), just some redundancy and problems with sources not being placed next to text they support. The article is by no means unable to be brought to standard and those problems are not impossible to solve. 1brianm7 (talk) 19:58, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much, I really appreciate your reply. If so, I will follow your advice and would ask that the door remain open. I will work on it soon and try to bring it up to par. TouchedWithFire (talk) 07:22, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note that the article states that Onnen is the likely murderer while the hooks portray him as the undisputed murderer. It's one or the other and this needs to be settled before this can run. Bremps... 16:06, 31 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you all for the feedback, I rewrote much of the article and I think I addressed all the issues. @1brianm7: If you could, I would appreciate it if you would give it another look. Thank you.

@TouchedWithFire: I'm a little busy right now and I didn't see this since the ping didn't work as you forgot to sign, but I'll try to look it over next week. 1brianm7 (talk) 04:16, 7 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Pinging nominator and those who have previously raised concerns, feel free to ignore . @TouchedWithFire, MediaKyle, Gdeblois19, Chipmunkdavis, and Bremps: First I'd like to thank all the editors who raised concerns with the article and helped improve it, and TouchedWithFire for not getting disheartened and working on it. The article has undergone significant edits to ensure source text integrity and get it up to standard. I have just done a significant round of copyedits and formatting mostly, but I did not find any factually incorrect claims or issues with source-text integrity. I would like to get a second opinion to make sure I'm calling this right and no debilitating concerns remain before removing the banner. As for the hook issue raised, I think ALT1a: ... that historian Jürgen Matthäus used artificial intelligence to help identify Jakobus Onnen as the gunman in The Last Jew in Vinnitsa (pictured)? resolves it. Also, we should probably get a dummy edit to provide attribution to the .de article, but I have no clue on how to do that. 1brianm7 (talk) 19:25, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's been a week. the dummy edit was done 1brianm7 (talk) 02:13, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies. I only recently learned that it's necessary to write that the article was translated in the edit summary. In addition to the dummy edit by Bremps, I added a "Translated page" template to the talkpage. TouchedWithFire (talk) 15:03, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

When I promoted this, the only underlying issue was, I thought, the failed verification, and I was going to migrate the source somewhere else. However I have pulled it after some issues raised by MediaKyle, mainly the underlying LLM generation (that may still have some hallucinations) and the difference in perspective from the dewiki article which portrays it from a broader point of view (while this article asserts that the gunman is Onnen, the German article isn't that sure). The article needs more thorough checks of the sources before it can be approved. Pings: TouchedWithFire, Gdeblois19, Chipmunkdavis, Bremps, 1brianm7 HurricaneZeta^C 03:23, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the hooks, I removed the caption from the image as it violated WP:DYKIMG. ALT1 or ALT1a are both fine, but the issues above need to be fixed. HurricaneZeta^C 03:30, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've cleaned up some hallucination and cloppyvio, but I can't access quite a few of the paywalled German sources. I also have an unusual concern about the hook, in that it is very similar to the Guardian article headline. It varies a bit but not enough that it doesn't give me pause, other opinions welcome. CMD (talk) 04:41, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@HurricaneZeta: In my last round of copyediting I tried to make clear that it was Matthaus' identification. I came to the conclusion that all of MediaKyle's concerns had been resolved (it looks like there was still a little weird stuff left, so I was slightly wrong, but not major and now corrected). 1brianm7 (talk) 04:25, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Was anyone able to get access to the rheiderland.de source? I'd like to take a look at it if possible. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 21:35, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  It looks like the paywall is within the text, so regular paywall removals don't work. I think there isn't a way to remove it via Inspect Element, so someone with a subscription or trial needs to go in and access it (unless someone else finds a way to get access). HurricaneZeta^C 21:41, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@TouchedWithFire, 1brianm7, HurricaneZeta, and Chipmunkdavis: Regarding the hook itself, has the identification been confirmed without doubt, or as the German Wikipedia suggests, it's not a closed case yet?

As for the German sources, I'll ping Gerda Arendt for help, to see if she might be able to access at least some of the sources here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:42, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Narutolovehinata5: It was my understanding that Matthaus has identified him as the shooter with 99% certainty. When I did my last round of copyedits on the article, I intended to make it clear that was his identification and not put it in wikivoice, and I wrote ALT1a to do that. Is it too close to wikivoice (I may have been a been bit careless in not definitely identifying this Nazi as this murderer). 1brianm7 (talk) 04:25, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Admittedly I have not read the article, but is the conclusion widely accepted by other scholars as well, or not yet? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:38, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Narutolovehinata5: I'm not sure this is the type of thing with a lot of historical debate. It's identifying an unidentified person as this random guy, and this random guy was just a Nazi doing Nazi things who did a Nazi thing that was randomly immortalized as an example of Nazi evil. Matthaus is an expert (recently retired head of research at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum), and he has done extensive research into this photo, previously showing that it was not taken in Vinnitsa (the photos in the background match with buildings elsewhere, so a pretty confident assertion), and he did a bunch of research to get this conclusion. Just looking at a recently published NYT article, Christopher R. Browning and Katja Hoyer both praised the discovery, and I'm sure others have in various German sources. 1brianm7 (talk) 05:01, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(late to this, pinged) I have no access to the pay-walled sources, but for example what I see of the one regarding the war memorial supports what the article says. We might say 99% in the hook, and we might say that a historian iddentified with the help of AI. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:40, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I read the German article, and it has more detail about the fact that it was a relative of Onnen who was suspicious, and provided the historian with family photos. AI image analysis was used to compare the images. The wording in German is "In 2025, a research team led by the historian Jürgen Matthäus identified him as the suspected shooter ...". In German it's "mutmaßlicher Schütze" (which Deepl gives first as "alleged shooter") which is a legal term for someone not (yet) pronounced guilty, and we might do the same, in article and hook, and there may be a different term in English. We should not be afraid of copyvio because it has to be precise. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:54, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@ARandomName123:I recall I was able to access it when I first reviewed the article, but I've had no luck in seeing it since then. 1brianm7 (talk) 04:25, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I too no longer have access to the Rheiderland.de article, but I added additional sources pointing to the content citing it (the council consideration in Weener and the the eventual covering of the name in the memorial). I Also added mention of corroboration with his family's testimonies to 1brianm7's revision. I didn't remove the Rheiderland.de source, since it was put there for a reason, even if I can't verify it now... And regarding the hook, I have not seen any sources casting doubt on the identification, only those emphasizing its certainty (the NYT goes so far as to say that it's 99.9% certain). Regardless, don't 1brianm7's suggestion of ALT1a and revision of the text solve the issue? TouchedWithFire (talk) 14:57, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that notable scholars of media capture say that events in 2025 in the United States are "unbelievable" and "worse than anything we imagined"?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Protests at UNHCR humanitarian center in Agadez and Template:Did you know nominations/Wallace Presbyterian Church
• Comment: The word "notable" is used as Mungiu-Pippidi is the scholar whose definition of media capture is most widely used, and Schiffrin is the scholar who has written or edited the most publications on the subject.

Onceinawhile (talk) 13:54, 25 October 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Not reviewing it, but there is a problem I have with the article: in the scope of the article you mention "platform capture" (social media) but you don't speak about social media apart from the very first sentence and from a cursory look you don't seem to cite any source that speaks about social media. Is there a reason for this? Szmenderowiecki (talk) 00:56, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Also, the entire source is available online on the publisher's site.[4] While social media is mentioned in other parts of the book, the cited page number for the lead and the content don't really add up. I suspect that the cited sources are mixed up a bit and the editor needs to go back and take a look. Viriditas (talk) 23:57, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: Various kinds of systemic biases in media is important topic, but not sure of above hook being suitable. Present hook sounds to me bit like recentism, sensational and vague. Not sure, even good number of audience is aware of concept of Media capture, hence whether hooks explaining concept itself will be more interesting and easy to understand. Alts something like on following lines?

"... that, Media capture, is a form in which mass media and social media platforms are controlled by governments, corporations, or powerful individuals to serve their own interests instead of the public interest?"

"... that, media capture describes how vested interests can dominate or co-opt nominally independent media institutions through ownership, regulation, or financing, whilst maintaining the illusion of press freedom?"

"... that, media capture is distinguished from censorship by its indirect mechanisms—such as ownership concentration, clientelism, and state advertising—used to manipulate editorial independence?"

"... that, according to Marius Dragomir, media capture involves the takeover of four key levers of influence: media regulation, state-owned outlets, government financing, and private ownership?"

Bookku (talk) 07:03, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Some of these are a bit long, but I don’t object to changing the hook. Onceinawhile (talk) 04:43, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Onceinawhile, Szmenderowiecki, Viriditas, and Bookku: What else needs doing here?--Launchballer 10:36, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I can tell, the user forgot to watchlist this page and needs to be contacted on talk. I will do so. Per my comment above, I would not pass this until the concerns have been addressed. It is not ready. Viriditas (talk) 10:40, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict)I have removed "platform capture", in order to address the comment from Szmenderowiecki. Onceinawhile (talk) 10:41, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

And the sources? Go back and make sure you have the right refs. I checked the above and couldn’t verify the content. Viriditas (talk) 10:44, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Viriditas: I have just fixed this. Onceinawhile (talk) 10:54, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Onceinawhile: You have the bibliography sorted chronologically. I've never seen that before, although I understand some disparate fields have different ways of doing this. Did you do this on purpose? Viriditas (talk) 20:43, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have changed it to alphabetical. Onceinawhile (talk) 21:10, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Still doesn't address the scope issue as the lead sentence still reads Media capture is a form of systemic corruption in which mass media and social media platforms. This may be a legitimate topic to cover but the article doesn't do it. If you do a section about social media acquisitions being cited as platform capture then fine. Szmenderowiecki (talk · contribs) 10:52, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Szmenderowiecki: Good point. I want to add this in but can't find broad enough sources yet. So I have removed it per your suggestion. Onceinawhile (talk) 10:55, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Onceinawhile: Why are there two refs after the title phrase in the first sentence? Viriditas (talk) 20:56, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have moved these to the bibliography. Onceinawhile (talk) 21:11, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Onceinawhile: You write: "Media capture is a form of systemic corruption in which mass media is controlled by governments, corporations, or powerful individuals to serve their own interests instead of the public interest, undermining media independence and media pluralism." This seems like an odd definition. Have you returned to the sources to double check? The reason this raises a red flag for me is because I am somewhat familiar with the problem of media capture. Media has been "controlled" by these entities since time immemorial, so that loads the definition in a way that makes it less meaningful. Obviously, the important part here is not necessarily ownership per se (although deregulation which led to concentration of media ownership in fewer hands is part of the problem), but the failure to serve the public interest. For example, we know in the U.S. that deregulation of the media environment led to concentration of ownership in fewer hands, mostly billionaries. This led to the decline of local news rooms and a focus on national issues, which in turn led to widespread public apathy at local levels to the point where people in small towns no longer knew what was happening in their areas. This is currently a major issue in Alaska, where the defunding of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting has led to small towns losing their only source of community news, which also serves multiple roles such as an ad hoc civil defense, etc. So in many ways, media capture is a highly complex problem that has major consequences far beyond ownership. Please check the sources to make sure your definition is accurate. Also, take a look at what happened in Hungary in the last 25 years, which is a case study for modern media capture and is endlessly fascinating. The media was given a choice to voluntarily let themselves be captured by the government, but in a way that is somewhat opaque and not readily apparent to outsiders. This is similar to what happened in U.S. and British media during and after WWII, but at a much lower level of capture. U.S. media, particularly entertainment, was highly censored by corporate and government interests working together during this time, but was implemented voluntarily, much as Hungary does today. Previous to this, in the 19th century, media capture in the U.S. was often the result of wealthy individuals working on behalf of a specific industry. The capture of West Coast media by the sugar industry from the late 19th to early 20th century is well known, for example. But more importantly, these interests intersect with others in often new ways. The interests of the sugar industry mirrored the interests of the U.S. government, its economic interests, and the military. The media becomes a major player in terms of promoting propaganda to advance the agendas of all of these special interests. It is in the stories that they tell, in their very narrative, that we can see hints of media capture, but in many cases most people can't tell. It is when that propaganda diverges from the interests of the public that we begin to see the capture at work. I am curently working on an article about MLK that required me to review newspaper articles about him from 1966-1968. It was only then that I learned about how the U.S. government waged a campaign against MLK in the pages of the news when MLK turned against the Vietnam War effort. This is one way the media capture became evident. Viriditas (talk) 21:37, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Onceinawhile: You write: "The most widely held definition of the term was published by Alina Mungiu-Pippidi in 2008: "either directly by governments or by vested interests networked with politics". That's not what she writes. She says: "By media capture I mean a situation in which the media has not succeeded in becoming autonomous to manifest a will of its own and to exercise its main function, notably of informing people, but has persisted in an intermediate state, whereas various groups, not just the government, use it for other purposes." This is very interesting because it dovetails exactly with the red flag I noted up above. Viriditas (talk) 22:10, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Onceinawhile: Where did you find a copy of Dragomir 2020? That link doesn't work for me. Does it work for you? Is there a place to download it? BTW, there is an updated sister/companion pub to it. It is found here. It further clarifies the definition:

Independence is a precondition for quality journalism, allowing for the production of verified information and informed analysis in the public interest. The professional standards of journalism mark out this kind of communications within the wider content mix and rely on space for self-regulation as well as independent regulatory institutions. Such independence is of increasing importance in the face of the contamination of the online public sphere with mis- and disinformation, hate speech, and conspiracy theories. But this is also happening in parallel with a financial crisis for news outlets. That financial crisis in turn endangers editorial independence and professional standards. It deprives newsrooms of the resources needed to produce quality reporting and it makes them more vulnerable to pressures to serve political agendas or commercial prerogatives over public interest. When these trends are exploited by political and economic actors to erode journalistic autonomy, it is referred to as 'media capture'".

[...]

The erosion of media freedoms and challenges to financial sustainability in the news industry makes newsrooms in many countries more vulnerable to pressures both from external actors and from outlet owners and executives, placing professional standards at risk. In a captured media environment, news media are ostensibly free but compromised in terms of independence. 'This form of media control is achieved through a series of systematic and premeditated steps taken by governments and powerful interest groups', explains one recent UNESCO report [Dragomir 2020]. 'Their aim is to take over four levers of power: the regulatory mechanisms governing the media; state-administered media operations; public funds that finance journalism; and the ownership of privately held news outlets'.

This definition is much better than what you have and nails all the major points I've raised. FWIW, I wrote a similar article about a parallel problem known as autocratic legalism. In the modern, post-9/11 era, autocratic legalism is used to capture the media, although this is beyond the scope of this article at the moment as it would be somewhat of a chore to flesh this out without fixing this article first and getting it past this initial article development stage. My point is that media capture is a subset of the autocratic legalism process in terms of authoritarianism and autocracy, and much more can be said about how this works in the future. Kim Lane Scheppele informally places it in the context of "step seven" on the ten-step path to autocracy. In other words, media capture is very much an incremental process of a state becoming an autocracy, so there's a larger aspect to the overall problem. Finally, I would oppose a hook emphasizing this as a recent problem in the U.S. The Trump admin and the GOP have escalated a process that has been underway since Reagan. There are books in the literature going back to the mid-1970s about this problem and I own them. I first became interested in this topic in the 1980s. What is so unique about the media capture we are seeing now, is that much of it is done voluntarily and willingly under the Trump admin, which is the same process that occurred in Hungary (and probably Venezuela, although it may have been more heavy-handed there). There are indicators in the literature that the Trump admin promoted the Hungarian style of media capture on purpose, using threats and intimidation to force the media landscape to bend to its will. This is the most interesting part, that people in leadership positions voluntarily chose to set aside journalistic standards and the basic tenets of the 1A to appease a dictator. Viriditas (talk) 00:55, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the international career of Anabel Montesinos took off after she won the Francisco Tárrega International Guitar Competition at age 17? Source: several
  • Reviewed: J. Harry Benrimo, Gerrit van der Waals
  • Comment: I'm sad that I didn't get a good image when she played near me in summer. We could add that she was the youngest winner at the time, but I think 17 is fairly young enough. Other hook ideas welcome.

Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:02, 2 November 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing:
• Neutral:
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

• Cited: - n
• Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: The hook fact (that the win at that one competition caused her international star to rise) is not explicitly stated in any source. See e.g. this, which conveys that her victory caused her to receive a recording offer. She seems to have won numerous international competitions beforehand? I think we need another hook, unless I've missed something.

I am a little concerned, while we're here, about the non-independent sourcing. Most of the cited sources are either organisations she has been affiliated with, or which had reasons to promote her. We may have a WP:N fail here; let me know what you think, before I put it up for AFD. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:19, 26 November 2025 (UTC) ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:19, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for reviewing. Ruthlessly trimming:

ALT0a: ... that Anabel Montesinos won the Francisco Tárrega International Guitar Competition at age 17?

This person played at Carnegie Hall and the Rheingau Musik Festival, - that's not promotional speak but hard facts saying she is top. - I heard her and was impressed and told Dr. Blofeld who wrote the article, but there was no review - the festival ran 154 events last year, and the papers can't cover them all - and if there was one it would be paywalled. Just one example. What can we do? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:21, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I added a review from Gramophone. ("If you already have most of the items in other recordings I urge you to listen to Montesinos – you may feel you are hearing them for the first time.") --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:52, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment. I agree with AirshipJungleman29. In general the article relies too heavily on non-independent sources; many of which were likely written by Montesinos or her press agent or her employer. These are all published by people or parties who have a financial motive (ie selling tickets and recordings). I would say in its current state the article should be tagged for sourcing problems and the need for third party coverage. I don't think we can or should run this because the article currently fails WP:DYKCITE. Until those sources (ie content cited to a press release, theatre bio, and record label) are swapped out with independent secondary materials (ie independent newspapers, magazines, etc. with by lined authors) we shouldn't run this. Gerda that means physically removing most of the materials you've used. We've talked about this before. You really need to quit submitting articles built primarily from artist bios of this type. They aren't independent. It's ok to use them in a limited way per WP:ABOUTSELF, but they shouldn't make up the majority of materials used, and they shouldn't make up the bulk of citations per WP:BESTSOURCES and WP:DUE. I note that in doing a WP:BEFORE type search I found lots of independent media coverage (yes much of it is paywalled, but not all of it) so there really isn't a need to use any of these theatre bios. The coverage is there in German, Spanish, and English media sources using google news. Best.4meter4 (talk)

  I didn't write the article and I have no time to work on it, sorry. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:05, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Gerda Arendt: Apologies for not catching that. It would be good to critically look at source balance on any articles you nominate. The work of others is not necessarily DYK ready, and if it isn't ready that makes for work here at review. An article built like this isn't going to pass scrutiny and will require heavy editing. If you are willing to pitch in and fix that is one thing, but if time isn't on your side I wouldn't nominate articles in this state. Best.4meter4 (talk) 15:34, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

When I see an article 7 days after creation, about a subject I like to see mentioned, close to midnight, too tired for scrutiny, I nominate whatever condition, hoping it will be improved in the process. There's nothing to loose. It can still be improved, and I'm willing to help but don't see time until Saturday. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:19, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Dr. Blofeld: Will you be able to address the sourcing concerns? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:25, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am sorry to have no time right now, 2 recent deaths articles and three reviews waiting, + prepare Christmas. My recommendation is to place the questioned refs under External links, and believe that there will still be enough good references to support the content. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:39, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the response Gerda, but I was asking Dr. Blofeld as he was the original article creator. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:44, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

... and I gave explanation and advice to Dr. Blofeld. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:19, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If you can link me some urls of what sources you want added Narutolovehinata5 and 4meter4 I will see what I can do. I simply used sources that turned up in a search.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:46, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Dr. Blofeld: I'm not sure if these are the sources 4meter4 found (he did not respond to the talk page message), but a search found this and this. I haven't been able to find the paywalled sources that 4meter4 discussed unfortunately. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:01, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! - I found the first one also, but it's an inadequate translation (First sentence: "The guitar seems insufficient in its playing, it breaks down complex works ..."???), - I wish we had someone able to read the original. The second is fine, but I see nothing much in that review, written in "purple language" for a no-name website, to add to what the review from the certainly notable Gramophone offers. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:28, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Back home, I combined refs, made one external, dropped one that had nothing new, and trimmed the prose. Please check again. There is more information (husband, duo) in the ref that's now #1. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:24, 5 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that 2015 film My Choice says, "My body, my mind, my choice; To wear the clothes I like; even if my spirit roams naked; My choice;.."?

• • ALT1: ... that “...Your mind is caged, let it free. My body is not, let it be … My choice: to love a man, or a woman, or both. Remember, you are my choice. I’m not your privilege. ..." is from 2015 Film My Choice?
  • Source: Secondary:Washington Post
    Primary: My choice acting Deepika Padukone Directed by Homi Adajania (Youtube)

• • ALT2: ... that “2015 film My Choice features music by French composer Mathias Duplessy, using percussion instruments for acoustics along with Mongolian Tuvan throat singing technique?
  • Source: Secondary:New Indian Express

• • ALT3:... that The rise of neoliberal feminism, as seen in film My Choice, stems from complex gender constructions across states, markets, and civil societies encompassing multiple ideological intersections?
  • Source: Secondary: Chakraborty, Gauri D. (24 March 2023). "6. New Feminist Visibilities and Sisterhood: Re-interpreting Marriage Desire and Self-Fulfillment in mainstream Hindi Cinema" (PDF). In Chakraborty Paunksnis, Runa; Paunksnis, Šarūnas (eds.). Gender, Cinema, Streaming Platforms: Shifting Frames in Neoliberal India. Germany: Springer International Publishing. pp. 154, 155. doi:10.1007/978-3-031-16700-3_6. ISBN 978-3-031-16700-3

• • ALT4: ... that Lyrics of 2015 film My Choice were written by Kersi Khambatta?
  • Source: Secondary:New Indian Express

• • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Love (Alexander Milov sculpture)
  • Comment: Now the article has been assessed as B class.( dif of the article talk page history) Just for transparency and record: This is re-nomination (link to previous nomination page) after previous draftfication and reentry in the article namespace with due process of addressing issues raised during draftification with the help of WP:Teahouse feedback and copy edit supported by substantially by two copy editors and other multiple experienced copy editors too looked into the article, edited by 19 users by now (Link to Xtools) and re-entry by WP:AFC process.
    It has been confirmed at DYK talk page that the article can be re-nominated after reentry in the article namespace with due WP:AFC process.

Bookku (talk) 03:34, 27 October 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Link to previous discussion about ALT3 and ALT4.

• Also (from previous own comment):" To those having music related curiosity Alt2 might sound relatively more interesting, but this DYK's purpose is to focus on the film and not the music. I hope reviewers will take note of this aspect while taking the call."

Bookku (talk) 04:19, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• I want to suggest ALT5: ... that the film My Choice features 99 women, but is less than 3 minutes long? --Metropolitan90 (talk) 02:04, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I find this quite interesting. Bookku (talk) 08:45, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Though for Alt5 we will need to consider two different different sentences from secondary source or form a sentence from primary source per MOS:FILMPLOT. As such WP:CALC says:

".. Routine calculations do not count as original research, provided there is consensus among editors that the results of the calculations are correct, and a meaningful reflection of the sources. Basic arithmetic, such as adding numbers, converting units, or calculating a person's age, is almost always permissible. .."

. Here in case of Alt5 we are not even calculating but we are just presenting the numerical facts, that should work, IMO Bookku (talk) 09:56, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

https://web.archive.org/web/20220516225923/http://www.ejumpcut.org/archive/jc59.2019/KhannaNeolibFemGaze/text.html (Jump Cut), cited in the article, says, "The two-and-a-half minute film begins with slow shots cutting between a seemingly heterogenous group of 99 women." That should be sufficient to support the entire ALT5. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 14:30, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, You are right, Many thanks for looking into the article in so nuanced way and pointing this out. Bookku (talk) 11:17, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Bookku and Metropolitan90: What else needs doing here?--Launchballer 16:33, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Someone needs to do a full DYK review for this entry. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 02:01, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @ User:Launchballer, as a proposer, IMHO, this article fulfills all DYK criteria.

Women's rights, slogan My body, my choice and freedom of choice continue to be ongoing international concern, being just recently discussed at G20 and also at European parliament.

The lead actress of the film Deepika Padukone was recently right back into news about controversy - audiences comparing one of her recent advert vis a vis this film of hers. (But not yet covered in the article, mostly will try to cover in the article Deepika Padukone)

Metropolitan90 themselves suggested a hook that's why some other reviewer needs to pitch in, review DYK and decide which hook they find more interesting. Bookku (talk) 02:31, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing: - n
• Neutral:
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: - n

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article alternates between plagiarism and insufficient referencing. For example, much of the "Summary" section is WP:CLOP of this source, and what isn't closely paraphrased is not verified, e.g. "As the music intensifies, their expressions and movements become more confident, sensual, and expressive." These are problems that go far beyond DYK, and violate basic Wikipedia policy.

As for the hooks, ALTs 0, 1, and 4 are dull as ditchwater. ALT3, like the corresponding part of the article, directly plagiarises the source. ALT2 is too verbose, and not very interesting either. That leaves ALT5, which is by far superior to any other; still, the article needs to be improved greatly. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:35, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@User talk:AirshipJungleman29 Thanks for your frank feedback, and I regret some of the things are not to your expectation but I have some points to share with you.

1) Summary section uses This is primary source, as WP MOS:FILMPLOT allows primary source itself for summary writing to the some extant as shown below. " .. Since films are primary sources for their articles, basic descriptions of their plots do not need references to an outside source.., I suppose we need not have any difference of opinion on this. I had reduced the speed of YouTube while writing and confirming source content for the article. Hence I find it difficult that summary content written as per MOS:FILMPLOT from primary source can be called not-referenced?

2) I have not copy-pasted any content directly, written only in my own words and your goodselves only had complained at my talk page about deficiencies in language and grammar. So I invited more copy editors help and got it copy edited. Idk, if you are having a feeling that copy edited content is reaching back similar to the sourced content. May be in that case I can request the same copy editors and few more to help in that respect.

3) Your goodselves only stated above that content in the section is alternating with other content (which you presume not sourced and I say sourced per policy from original source). As long as alternating content is encyclopedic, relevant, written in own words plus copy edited further by another editors and referenced IMHO that should be within fair use, still since you have concerns then as said I shall invite more copy editors to help me sort this out.

Thanks Bookku (talk) 07:06, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@User:Metropolitan90 do you have any specific inputs to share with in respect to user AirshipJungleman29's concerns, since you have already visited the sourced text your inputs may help discussion and further article improvement. Bookku (talk) 07:12, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Okay,Once again I have gone through, what AirshipJungleman29 is trying to say. I shall prefer to discuss my understanding at Metropolitan90's user talk page keeping AirshipJungleman29 in the loop and find the resolution. Bookku (talk) 10:40, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your comments are confusing and not fully intelligible. Hopefully I have interpreted them properly:

With regard to MOS:FILMPLOT, please pay attention to the second paragraph, specifically what primary sources may be used for.

Please consult WP:CLOP. That is considered plagiarism and a copyright violation. As above, please compare the Summary section to the source.

Fair use is irrelevant. There is no need for others to copy-edit, there is only a need for you Bookku to fix your copyright violations. That is a basic requirement of Wikipedia editing; editors who cannot write without plagiarising are routinely blocked. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:39, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I do not get involved in film genre regularly, there may be difference in understanding on my part. But I always write in my own words that's why English grammar issues keep coming up, and I resolve English grammar issues with help of helpful copy editors. Besides where I feel doubtful a try to approach respective forums for example in case of image added to this article itself by another user I approached here. And I am working on another draft for that I approached here.

I wish to address and resolve issues raised by you head on, and no arguments about it. (Besides as said above it's my first time to handle film genre. Knowing that I had and I have approached all relevant project talk pages for inputs and help.)

What I am proposing to is to revisit and improve summary section paragraph by paragraph, preferably discussing improvements at User:Metropolitan90's talk page - since they have read one of the source and aware of the source and suggested alt5, of course keeping you in the loop (as I kept you informed previously for the same article). In present case it is just around two minutes film, it would be a challenging task to differentiate our fresh summary but we will do that. I will try to write it again afresh besides I will try to request other helpful users to write their summaries without reading the article and then improve. The same things we can discuss para wise at Metropolitan90's user talk page if Metropolitan90 is okay with the same. Thanks for helpful guidance. Bookku (talk) 15:07, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

My suggestion would be to rewrite the Summary section to make it much shorter than it is now. Since most of Airship's objections pertain to plagiarism/paraphrasing in that section, that could help ease his concerns. This is a very short film and thus a short summary is all that should be needed. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 09:15, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that by age eight, Donald Trump was a millionaire in today's dollars?

• ALT1: ... that a young Donald Trump developed a fear of germs after his mother had an emergency hysterectomy? Source: Kranish & Fisher 2017, p. 37.
• ALT2: ... that a young Donald Trump was sent to New York Military Academy after his father found that he had been sneaking off to Manhattan to purchase smoke bombs and knives? Source: Craig & Buettner 2024, p. 63.
• ALT3: ... that a young Donald Trump would often skip classes at Fordham University to play golf? Source: Craig & Buettner 2024, p. 98.
• ALT4: ... that detentions at Donald Trump's elementary school were named after him for his disruptive behavior? Source: Kranish & Fisher 2017, p. 34.
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Dinosaur emojis
• Comment: ALT0 is preferred; some of the other blurbs may be politically contentious.

elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 05:26, 29 October 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• All of the hooks violate MOS:EGG. Adding 'a young' to ALTs 1-4 might work.--Launchballer 04:42, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 17:39, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Article looks good to me. Long enough and all that. Earwig's is clear. Didn't appear to have any neutrality issues although I'm not a politics guy so I'll just rely on the judgement of the good article reviewers. I'll just review ALT0 for now because I don't have access ot the books. ALT0 matches the source and article. I think the biggest issue is that the hook doesn't mention that it's adjusted for inflation, so maybe you could add something saying that it is? I don't really have an opinion because I guess people would look at it with today's value of the dollar. I'm not sure. ―Panamitsu (talk) 02:54, 1 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Panamitsu: Done. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 05:40, 1 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ElijahPepe, can you provide quotes for the other hooks per WP:DYKCITE so that Panamitsu can review them? I suspect that the comparative dullness of the original hook is the major reason this hasn't been promoted in the month since review. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:59, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. In order:

• "Mary had various medical problems, including a hemorrhage after Roberts birth that required an emergency hysterectomy. From his mother, Donald inherited a wariness about catching germs that led to years as an adult when he avoided shaking hands."
• "They found a magic store that sold smoke bombs and, enamored with the musical street fighting in West Side Story, eventually graduated to buying knives. Toward the end of seventh grade, their fathers found out. Both boys were in trouble. But Fred had reached his limit with Donald. He sent him to a boarding school, a military academy north of the city."
• "McMahon and Gedgard introduced their new friend to golf. When the days warmed, they would skip class and head off to a nearby public course."
• "Donald spent enough time in detention that his friends nicknamed the punishment DTs—short for 'Donny Trumps.'" elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 17:25, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 matches the source. ALT2 source mostly does but does not explicitly say which academy it was, but it's cited in the article so I'll assume that it's fine. ALT3 matches and so does ALT4. All hooks match the article. ―Panamitsu (talk) 20:23, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that in the Romanian Carpathians, young women once flirted with the hills – playing the fifă fluier and answering its echo with yodel-like hăulit singing?
• ALT1: ... that women the Romanian Carpathians traditionally play the one-note fifă fluier, around which their voice "embroiders" a rudimentary melody using a yodel-like hăulit singing?
• ALT2: ... that the single tone of the fifă, an archaic fluier from the foothills of the Carpathians , combines with yodel-like hăulit singing to create a zigzag contour of a single melodic line?
• ALT3: ... that when women in the Oltenia Carpathians play the fifă, their voice essentially becomes an extension of the instrument, compensating for its minimal resources with yodel-like hăulit?
• ALT4: ... that the Pygmy whistle hindewhu is played almost exactly like the archaic Romanian fluier fifă — and that Herbie Hancock recreated its sound using empty beer bottles in his 1973 version of "Watermelon Man"?

• • Reviewed:

Iurii.s (talk) 05:59, 28 October 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• First of all, allow me to congratulate our new colleague Iurii.s for what emerges as a remarkably well written, and thoroughly engaging, series about Romanian-areal folk music. This is a new, long, thorough, well researched and plagiarism-free article; the only drawback is perhaps that the lead does not summarize the article content, but that is obviously not a DYK requirement. User is, as mentioned, new, and QPQ is not required. That said: I should point out that the hook is not verified by the source, nor is it apparently mentioned in the article. Unless there is some arcane terminology that eludes me (and would elude most readers), "to flirt" would indicate that women actually personify the hills and act out as if they were singing to romantic partners. Is there any other way to phrase this? Dahn (talk) 07:38, 7 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for the positive feedback and the kind words! I really appreciate it. And you're right, the hook needs improvement. I've added ALT1 version. -Iurii.s (talk) 10:36, 7 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • The ALT is certainly an improvement, but the word "embroiders" would need to also appear in the article. What is more: the cited source is only cited once in the article, and not for the fact in the hook (!). Please note that the hook needs to be based on something actually found in the article -- you can easily solve this by adding it to the article, with the corresponding citation. Once that is fixed, please note: the ALT is a bit on the wordy side, and loses focus. I will suggest a punchier wording once you will have addressed the query above. Dahn (talk) 22:10, 7 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• @Iurii.s: I am not sure if the added ALTs are admitting that the original hook is unusable. On the other hand, I see additional potential issues with them. For instance, you render "extension of the instrument" as a quote, but is not a visible quote in the article -- it is not clear if you're attributing it to the source or if you're paraphrasing the source. If the former, the quote would need be, quote marks and all, in the article as well; if the latter, you do not need quote marks here. The same goes for the "zigzag" ALT. I also have to wonder about the hindewhu paragraph and the ALT based on it: does the source you used ever mention fifăs, by name or by description? Because the phrasing seems to suggest that some original research went into that, as per WP:SYNTH. Dahn (talk) 13:35, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have removed quote marks from ALT2-3, you have your point. As for ALT4, the source (Херцеа 1988) in the article mentions morphological kinship of the fifa with other simple single-note stopped tubes. Hindewhu falls into that category, though not listed implicitly. So I believe no original research from my side. From my point of view ALT2-4 are OK. -Iurii.s (talk) 12:38, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Dahn: What else needs doing here?--Launchballer 16:16, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• • A lot. The hooks and article apparently hinge on WP:SYNTH, and none of the usable hooks are exactly present in the article. Unfortunately so. Dahn (talk) 08:07, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In which case, please address the above @Iurii.s:.--Launchballer 13:53, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The issue addressed. I have added to the article a reliable source linking fifa and hindewhu. - Iurii.s (talk) 15:48, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have accessed Feld's article and nowhere is fifă even mentioned. Please read our WP:SYNTH policy. Further, even if it were mentioned, the entire detail about Hanock seems to be squeezed in the article for the purpose of creating a hook -- such detail on an African instrument for which we have an article has no business featuring in the one you created. This article cannot be passed as is. Dahn (talk) 11:19, 8 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I was referring to another article: Civallero (2012) - "Flautas de Pan". It has both fifa and hindewhu. The technique - fusion of vocal and instrumental art - is quite rare, and is surprisingly similar for fifa and hindewhu. It seams to me that modern use of the technique has value for the article. Anyway, only one hook out of 3 (ALT 2-3-4) proposed uses Hancock's performance. -Iurii.s (talk) 08:00, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That still leaves all the paragraph that follows the citation as a sample of SYNTH, and as irrelevant at best, while making the hook based on it unusable. Dahn (talk) 04:11, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that with over 1,300 varieties, Smuggler's Cove (pictured) offers the widest selection of rum of any bar in the United States?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Calculus (Apostol books)

BanjoZebra (talk) 15:50, 30 October 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Compliant, new enough (promoted to GA 2 days ago), QPQ satisfied, Earwig 35.9% similarity that's likely because of properly attributed quote. Well-sourced and proper inline citation in "Rum Collection" section. Hook is really interesting as I wouldn't expect some random bar to have 1,300 collections. HwyNerd Mike (t | c) 17:18, 1 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @BanjoZebra, HwyNerd Mike, HurricaneZeta, Narutolovehinata5, and Theleekycauldron: I'm reopening this per Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Smuggler's Cove (bar) (nom). The claim that it has the most in the US is not well-enough sourced for us to state that in WikiVoice on the main page. Also, it was raised that the actual number of rums (1,300) is attributed only to the owner and not as an established fact. The hook was changed in prep to ... that Smuggler's Cove claimed in 2025 to offer more than 1,300 varieties of rum? but that currently doens't match what the article says and is also in violation of MOS:CLAIM. It seems like the article needs to be updated to attribute the 1,300 figure or provide more concrete sourcing on it, and a new hook found which then reflects this. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 12:23, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for being very careless in this review and causing too much trouble. HwyNerd Mike (t | c) 16:24, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@BanjoZebra: Please address the above concerns. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:57, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that "transients" that appear in 1950s celestial images captured by the Palomar Observatory (pictured) are generallyoften attributed to defects in the observatory's photo plates?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Defense of Azakh Template:Did you know nominations/Arlecchino (Genshin Impact)

Chetsford (talk) 16:57, 4 November 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• The section on "ufology" has no *direct* bearing on the article content, is clearly biased against the content, and I would not pass this without it being removed. I also do not see anything that rises the to the hook claim that this is "generally attributed" to plate defects. The ref on the section that does mention this states it as "were often", and I would hesitate to say "often" is a synonym for "generally" and the context suggests the "were" is in the sense of "in the past" as opposed to "is". The section at the end, which purports to report on these concerns, doesn't mention plate defects at all. The SciAm article does offer a very good summary of the various concerns, and one of the statements fits the bill, that of Nigel Hambly, but there are many other interesting ones as well. So I'm uncomfortable which this claim. Further, for an article about UFO claims, which would be sure to generate oodles of clicks, it seems odd that the hook fails to mention this at all. If the goal of this article is to inform people that this work is controversial, then it only serves that purpose if people actually read it, and this hook would seem to do the opposite. Instead:

• • ALT1: * ... that a recent paper about "transients" that appear in 1950s celestial images has been the basis for the claim that UFOs have been attracted to nuclear weapon tests? Maury Markowitz (talk) 18:08, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"for an article about UFO claims..." / "The section on "ufology" has no *direct* bearing on the article" -- I'm having difficulty reconciling these two statements.
"If the goal of this article is to inform people that this work is controversial" It is not. The goal of the article is to chronicle what reliable sources say about a notable topic. In the spirit of NPOV, our articles should not be evangelically motivated. Chetsford (talk) 18:24, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The goal of the article is to chronicle what reliable sources say about a notable topic - precisely, and this section says nothing whatsoever about this paper. "our articles should not be evangelically motivated" - I couldn't agree more, which is why this section should be removed, as it appears to be included simply to bias the reader without any RS actually making these statements. Maury Markowitz (talk) 18:43, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Background sections to explain unusual terminology later introduced are extremely rote on articles, and are a proper application of WP:MTAU and WP:PLA. Let me think about this for a period of time, however. "as it appears to be included simply to bias the reader without any RS actually making these statements" I completely reject this indictment in both form and fact. Chetsford (talk) 18:56, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

explain unusual terminology later introduced - the terminology is not used anywhere else in the article. Argument fails. You can reject my opinion and argue with me ad nauseam about this "indictment", or we can move forward with the nom. Which will it be? Maury Markowitz (talk) 12:11, 5 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"the terminology is not used anywhere else in the article" The terms "UAP" and "UFO" are used at least 11 times outside that section. "Argument fails. You can reject my opinion and argue with me ad nauseam about this "indictment", or we can move forward with the nom. Which will it be?" As I said in my previous comment,[5] I'd like some time to properly consider your feedback. Thanks, again, for your patience. Chetsford (talk) 14:44, 5 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Maury Markowitz - this has now been remedied. Let me know if you've any other edits. Thanks -Chetsford (talk) 23:32, 9 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

All that's needed now are the 2 QPQs. Maury Markowitz (talk) 12:50, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Maury Markowitz -- those are listed under the header "Reviewed". Chetsford (talk) 13:01, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Good to go with the current changes. NOTE: this article is currently subject to an ongoing AfD]. Maury Markowitz (talk) 19:14, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose this blurb. This is in the source clearly the background of the study, where the potential for these to be mere defects in the study that the Wikipedia article is about has been investigated and found to be impossible or implausible hence the paper in the peer-reviewed major scientific journal(s). This is a violation of WP:NPOV. If Wikipedia policies are robust and matter, it won't be a DYK or only after the text has been written in a less biased, misleading way. It's not per se false, but the wikilink is wrong as it suggests that this is what the study found when the source doesn't support that at all and the sources say the opposite. --Prototyperspective (talk) 16:59, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Does this objection bear weight Maury Markowitz Chetsford? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 22:08, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@AirshipJungleman29: It does bear weight, which is why I proposed ALT1. ALT0 lacks specificity (what is "often"?), whereas ALT1 is a direct statement by the paper's authors. It's also, IMHO, much more hooky. Maury Markowitz (talk) 13:05, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

. I see. Well, an independent reviewer is needed for ALT1. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:42, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Maury Markowitz and Chetsford: ALT1 seems to be cited to the paper itself, could a secondary source be found? Also, I trimmed much of the Background section per WP:DUE.--Launchballer 17:23, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Launchballer: ALT1 is cited to the paper but that is what the paper is claiming. Should I make it more clear in the hook, that this is the claim of the paper? Maury Markowitz (talk) 18:40, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I concur with Launchballer. We would need a source that claimed these two papers are the "basis" for the idea supposed "UFOs" are attracted to nuclear weapons, which is a counter-factual statement since that idea has been circulating for many decades predating either paper. Chetsford (talk) 19:54, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The basis of your statement is the term "basis", which is interesting given your original hook contains the term "often". But fair enough:

• • ALT2: * ... that a recent paper about "transients" that appear in 1950s celestial images discusses whether the data provides evidence that that nuclear weapons may attract UAPs?"

This is a direct quote from the "Discussion" section of the paper. @Launchballer:, unless I'm mistaken, we don't need independent V for a statement that is directly quoted from the work itself, as that work can be read by anyone. Maury Markowitz (talk) 15:57, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think this meets criterion 7 of the DYK criteria. Also, the way it's written affirms the existence of UAPs as a factual, versus imaginative, phenomenon. Finally, we should not introduce WP:JARGON on the main page and would, at minimum, need to refer to them as UFOs. Chetsford (talk) 03:19, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It does not bear weight, AirshipJungleman29. The objector's statement "This is a violation of NPOV." is circumscribed by WP:PSCI by which NPOV does not apply to fringe views in the way they've described. The consensus view to explain the transients is there were defects in the glass plates in 1955. The fringe view to explain the transients is that a fleet of Martian spaceships was orbiting the Earth in 1955. We are under no obligation to equitably treat these two theories. Chetsford (talk) 20:06, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Rachel Walker Revere bribed a British officer to secure a pass for her family to safely escape British-occupied Boston after her husband's "midnight ride"?

• Reviewed:

Isoxys (talk) 20:43, 4 November 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Article is in good shape and eligible. No evidence of copyvio, and the hook is interesting enough (I might link midnight ride though). The source quote seems to confirm the hook, but I'd need to know what this source actually is. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 04:24, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have added a cite for the quote, it comes from the Paul Revere Memorial Association. Maury Markowitz (talk) 16:05, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Whoops, sorry I forgot to add a citation! I've edited the source to include one now. Isoxys (talk) 17:03, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Isoxys, the article says she may have bribed an officer, and source indicates her letter suggests that she may have bribed Captain Irvin for a pass, which is not as declarative as the hook. I think either a new hook is needed or a clearer source indicating that a bribe did indeed take place. Dclemens1971 (talk) 03:13, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think that's fair! Would changing the hook to "may have bribed a British officer" be alright, or should I come up with something new entirely? Isoxys (talk) 19:42, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Isoxys: Dclemens1971 is on wikibreak, but I would suggest other hooks.--Launchballer 13:27, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the rectory of Holy Rosary Church was used as a station on the Underground Railroad?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/SS Persian Monarch
  Template:Did you know nominations/Bartholomäus Scultetus

Maximilian775 (talk) 15:42, 9 November 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Article is new and long enough. It is well-sourced, uses inline citations, neutral, and I cannot see any copy violations. The hook is good, interesting and cited to five online sources in the Founding section. QPQs have been done. - JuneGloom07 Talk 05:03, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Maximilian775 JuneGloom07 - are we sure this source is reliable? It seems just like an ordinary non-profit with no extra fact-checking or so and I'm not sure about its reliability. Of the five sources that support the fact in the article, one (Schelgel) doesn't seem to mention this, one is the aforementioned one, two are inaccessible to me (not sure how to access those), and the Dept. of the Interior one also doesn't seem to mention this. Just looking for clarification on the notability of the first one. HurricaneZeta^C 00:21, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Oh dear, personally I thought it was okay, so that's on me. Looking at the sources again, I believe they cover the first two sentences, so they could be better placed. I AGF on the one I couldn't access (Arter). I did check the book, which does contain references to the railroad. Maybe User:Maximilian775 could add the relevant quote from the Arter source to the ref? - JuneGloom07 Talk 23:22, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that John David Kali, one of Kenya's early freedom fighters, edited the nationalist paper Sauti ya Mwafrika before becoming Kenya’s first Government Chief Whip?

• Reviewed:
• Comment:

NdukuKali11 (talk) 13:58, 10 November 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Note article has a tag saying that more citations are needed as every end of paragraph (outside of the lead) should have a citation. This should be resolved before promotion. Simply removing the tag won't fix it. JuniperChill (talk) 15:07, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The nominator has not edited since November 22 and did not respond to the above comment. Given the unresolved issues with the article, I am marking this for closure as abandoned. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:18, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Actually pinging @NdukuKali11:, since she seems to respond to those (see this nomination's talk page).--Launchballer 13:57, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Noting that the nominator did respond on their own talk page to this, below the transcluded nomination page; I'm changing the icon so this isn't closed prematurely. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:14, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

For context, the nom proposed this hook: "ALT1: … that John David Kali, one of Kenya’s early freedom fighters, edited the nationalist paper Sauti ya Mwafrika before becoming Kenya’s first Government Chief Whip?" It doesn't really solve the concerns, however. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:47, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

We need to find a way to centralise the discussion as its taking place here, the templates talk page and the articles talk page. And there is just one paragraph to go needing citation (beginning with "Family archival records and oral history suggest"). JuniperChill (talk) 21:53, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Regardless of the issue with sourcing, the main issue is that the hook's interest as currently written is questionable. It is not exactly unusual for nationalists to be journalists or to have written nationalist works. Instead of focusing on him being a Kenyan freedom fighter, I would instead suggest something like "that John David Kali, Kenya's first Government Whip, was...", possibly with a fact focusing on his previous career. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:45, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Cūḷāmaṇi Cetiya (pictured) is the celestial stupa in Tāvatiṃsa Heaven where Śakra enshrined the future Buddha Prince Siddhartha's topknot? Source: "076 – Story of Renunciation". ignca.gov.in.
  • ALT1: ... that in Buddhist legend, Śakra retrieved the Buddha’s right tooth relic from a Brahmin who stole it and enshrined it in the Cūḷāmaṇi Cetiya (pictured)? Source: https://www.themindingcentre.org/dharmafarer/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/36.13-Pada-Dona-S-a4.36-piya.pdf
  • ALT2: ... that the celestial Cūḷāmaṇi Cetiya (pictured) is believed to enshrine both the Buddha's topknot, which he cut off during his renunciation, and his right canine tooth after death? Source: Khanjanusthiti, Pinraj (1996). Buddhist architecture : meaning and conservation in the context of Thailand (PDF) (PhD thesis). University of York. Retrieved 2025-11-15.
  • Reviewed:

ManoiCMU (talk) 16:08, 14 November 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• @ManoiCMU: Long enough, new enough, no QPQ needed, Earwig's clean. No reason why this might deserve a maintenance template. My preference is a trimmed version of ALT2 as follows: ALT2a: ... that the celestial Cūḷāmaṇi Cetiya (pictured) is believed to enshrine both the Buddha's topknot and his right canine?, except I can't find it in the article.--Launchballer 18:26, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks anyway @Launchballer:. I’m okay with your reworded version of ALT2a, so please let it proceed. Thanks. ManoiCMU (talk) 06:42, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The hook needs to be in the article for me to verify the hook.--Launchballer 08:02, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Bouchra's anthropomorphic characters have been compared to those in Zootopia, Aesop's Fables, and the furry community?

• • ALT1: ... that Bouchra was the first animated Platform Prize nominee at the Toronto International Film Festival? Source: Hazelton, John (2025-07-22). "Nine world premieres set for Toronto competitive auteur section Platform". Screen Daily. Retrieved 2025-11-16.
  • ALT2: ... that Meriem Bennani and Orian Barki's Bouchra revisits the universe of their 2020 web series, 2 Lizards? Source: Tan, Lumi (2024). "Meriem Bennani". CURA. Vol. 43. Retrieved 2025-11-16. / McLean-Ferris, Laura (2024-12-02). "Reviews: Meriem Bennani, 'For My Best Family' at Fondazione Prada, Milan". Mousse Magazine. Archived from the original on 13 January 2025. Retrieved 2025-11-16.
  • ALT3: ... that Bouchra was funded and hosted by Milan's Fondazione Prada under the title For Aicha? Source: Wilk, Elvia (2025-10-01). "Scripting Intimacy: Meriem Bennani and the Art of Animating Reality". Hyundai Artlab. Retrieved 2025-11-16. / Mang, Lolita (2025-10-21). "À Paris, cette exposition gratuite va vous donner envie… de danser !". Vogue France (in French). Retrieved 2025-11-16.
  • ALT4: ... that Bouchra proved popular with the furry userbase of the Letterboxd site? Source: Scarabelli, Taylore (2025-10-03). "NYFF: How Filmmakers Meriem Bennani and Orian Barki Got the Furries Freaking Out". Interview Magazine. Archived from the original on 3 October 2025. Retrieved 2025-11-16.
  • ALT5: ... that Bouchra was the first animated feature produced in Morocco? Source: Lang, Jamie (2025-09-05). "'Spit and Duct Tape and Dreams': How a Small Global Team Built the Queer CG Feature 'Bouchra,' Premiering in Toronto". Cartoon Brew. Archived from the original on 8 September 2025. Retrieved 2025-11-16.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Nobody (2025 film)
  • Comment: I didn't choose this topic--the topic chose me.
    Certainly the most opportune "animated first by country" I've chanced upon in my WP career--from the moment the Brew first brought it up during its Toronto premiere. This one ticked a lot of boxes as concerns my tastes and interests: feature animation, furry works, LGBTQ+ (as a sympathiser), arthouse fare, and foreign cinema.
    All of which has led to not only my most ambitious quest for a Four Award,^{Which could also become AFC's fifth, months from now} but also my most ambitious DYK pitch to date--thus concluding Phase 2a of that Four campaign. (So many hook options, so much Google-pinging, so little time.) How much this brings the furry crowd to WP's front page next year--and whether the fine press will take notice--time and the Masters will tell. As always, WP is short on coverage of animated African media, especially in terms of quality. (Caribbean audiovisual content, too--speaking as a Florida-based expatriate--but that's for another thread.)
    As an editor who has endured for 20 years, an FA may finally be in my sights--and I'll never have to worry about editing again once I get it. After ages of prospects and false starts, it's about time already...
    

    ---

    With special thanks to AFC approver LuniZunie (talk · contribs).

Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 15:32, 16 November 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Drive-by comment, I think none of these hooks are interesting. But they might be interesting when combined. I propose:
  ALT6: ... that the first animated feature produced in Morocco became popular among the furry community?
  — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 19:58, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• @Slgrandson: ALT3 has a second bolded article, For My Best Family. Did you mean to turn this into a double?--Launchballer 18:30, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Launchballer: Optional (in case that gets chosen). --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 18:34, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That article could easily clip into many of the other hooks. I'd suggest something like ALT7: ... that a re-edit of an animated film produced for a 2024 Milan exhibition became popular among the furry community?. You'd need a second QPQ for it though.--Launchballer 18:52, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the Cenotaph (pictured) in Bulawayo, Zimbabwe commemorates Southern Rhodesian war dead of the First World War, Second World War, Malayan Emergency and Rhodesian Bush War?

• ALT1: ... that the Cenotaph (pictured) in Bulawayo, Zimbabwe was dedicated in 1921, then in 1925 by Edward, Prince of Wales and once more in 1970? 1, 2, 3
• ALT2: ... that the gardens around the Cenotaph (pictured) in Bulawayo, Zimbabwe, a monument erected after the First World War, are described as "a good place to relax" whilst learning about history? 1
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Saving Grace (podcast)

Will Thorpe (talk) 11:19, 15 November 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Comment: I could be wrong on this, but it's my understanding that Wikipedia prefers that one crop the negative borders of scanned images like this for online usage, as it is more decorative here than useful. Viriditas (talk) 00:48, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Fair cop. I have amended the image as such. Cheers, Will Thorpe (talk) 04:02, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • Keep both instead. This may be an exception to the rule. The bordered version looks better to me than the crop due to the vertical alignment of the pillars. Viriditas (talk) 04:11, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Willthorpe: Long enough, new enough, QPQ done, Earwig's clean. No reason why this might need a maintenance template. ALT1 and ALT2 vary from the article, which says that the Cenotaph was laid in 1921, unveiled in 1925, dedicated in 1970, and described as "a good place to relax" rather than is one. That leaves ALT0, which strikes me as a bogstandard thing for a war memorial to do. What else have you got?--Launchballer 11:22, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Launchballer I have amended ALT2 per your comments. Does it now suffice? Cheers, Will Thorpe (talk) 12:37, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that one of the Republican activists interviewed in the 2006 documentary ...So Goes the Nation later changed parties?

• ALT1: ... that the 2006 documentary ...So Goes the Nation interviewed the chairman of both the Democratic and Republican parties? Source: https://variety.com/2006/film/markets-festivals/so-goes-the-nation-1200512914/
• ALT2: ... that the directors of the 2006 documentary ...So Goes the Nation were originally trying to document possible voter fraud in the 2004 United States presidential election? Source: https://variety.com/2006/film/markets-festivals/so-goes-the-nation-1200512914/
• ALT3: ... that the 2006 documentary ...So Goes the Nation centers on Ohio in the 2004 United States presidential election (map pictured)? Source: https://variety.com/2006/film/markets-festivals/so-goes-the-nation-1200512914/
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Georgie Purcell
• Comment: Template:Did you know nominations/Heracross for my second QPQ

Olliefant (she/her) 08:33, 13 November 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Comment. ALT0 is missing a word for it to make sense, and if I'm reading the article correctly, that word would be "one": "... that one of the Republican activists interviewed in the 2006 documentary ...So Goes the Nation later changed parties?" With regard to ALT2, if the filmmakers were "originally trying to document possible voter fraud" in the election, that implies that they might have changed their minds and decided to focus on something else, or perhaps that they couldn't find evidence of voter fraud. What did they wind up with instead? I can't really tell from the article. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 16:15, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  @Metropolitan90: I clarified that they dropped the voter fraud stuff, I couldn't find why but Ill look again soon. Olliefant (she/her) 16:23, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that North Korea had official mail circulation with the South from 1946 to 1950?

• ALT1: ... that North Korea just officially restored postal mailbag exchanges with China and Russia since the COVID-19 pandemic? Source: Russia restores N. Korea's postal lifeline, DailyNK; June 19, 2025 and North Korea-China Land Mail Route Reopens After Five Years, The Chosun Daily; October 10, 2025
• ALT2: ... that North Korea signed postal agreements with China [zh] and USSR before its independence? Source: Provisional Agreement on Postal and Telecommunications Services Between the Northeast Liberated Area of the Republic of China and North Korea and its Implementation Rules, National Institute of Korean History; January 17, 1948 and Provisional Agreement between the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and North Korea on Postal and Telegraphic Communication, National Institute of Korean History; August 16, 1946
• Reviewed:
• Comment: Based on a comprehensive review of primary historical materials, including the Database of Contemporary Korean History by National Institute of Korean History in Korean, the Treaty Database of P.R.C. by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the People's Republic of China in Chinese and a revealed secret document by CIA in English, my content expansion significantly supplements the history chapter of postal exchanges of North Korea with South Korea, the Soviet Union, and China, overturning the previous conclusion that "North and South Korea had NO postal contact". It also supplements the information on the recent resumption of postal routes of North Korea with China and Russia, based on recent news reports.

HCCB3947 (talk) 13:43, 20 November 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• In 2025, the government-controlled stamp-issuing authority (Korea Stamp Corporation) published a release notice for new stamps that — for the first time — included Russian alongside English, Chinese, and Korean, reflecting the regime’s growing alignment with Russia. Source : [8] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4425valentina (talk • contribs) 12:05, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • This should belong to another Wikipedia page named Korea Stamp Corporation. Stamp issuing and postal service are two separate systems in DPRK. For example, the corporation has their own official website, while the post do not. Source: Entities responsible for fulfilling the obligations arising from adherence to the Acts of the Union and UPU S108 standard International Mail Processing Centre (IMPC) codes, open offices by Universal Postal Union. HCCB3947 (talk) 15:12, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: I'm 99.99% sure interlanguage links aren't allowed for DYK hooks, though ALT2 could become a multihook, but I don't see that as necessary. Roast (talk) 23:18, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • According to Wikipedia:Accuracy, it is not suitable to replace the interlanguage link with other articles such as Republic of China (1912–1949). This is because in the original treaty text, it is specified that the Chinese signer of the agreement is "Northeast Administrative Committee of the Republic of China", which is led by the CPC, not the KMT who led the R.O.C. They are different historical political entities, with the former one have no corresponding English article(s). Anyways, it's the last ALT hook that only applicable when the community see the first two are both "unnecessary". HCCB3947 (talk) 12:00, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that a sacred lake is used to wash clothes?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/1939 Salvadoran presidential election

Earth605^talk 18:52, 18 November 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing: - Sources like Makemytrip, traveltriangle.com, gosahin.com, etc.
• Neutral:
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
• Other problems: - Article is full of single-sentence paragraphs

Hook eligibility:

• Cited: - The source provided is myholidayhappiness.com
• Interesting:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: @Earth605: New enough, long enough. Neutral in tone. QPQ not required. Presentability is an issue since the article is filled with single-sentence paragraphs. Sourcing is also an issue. Since the lake was built in the early medieval period, and is surrounded by the Badami cave temples, it should have some mention in academic sources. AmateurHi$torian (talk) 09:06, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The article states, "It is not known how was the lake built". However, this source states that "Bâdami is situated at the outlet between two rocky hills on its north and south-east sides, a dam to the east of the town between the bases of the hills forming a large tank for the supply of water to the town". So, it's quite clear how the lake was built. -AmateurHi$torian (talk) 09:17, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have substituted unreliable refs, added your ref and provided a new ref for the hook. I have also fixed issues with presentation. @AmateurHi$torian: What do you think now? Earth605^talk 07:07, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Many unreliable sources still persist. These are:

1. yatrikaone.com

2. "Some Whispers from Eternity: Book on Evolution of Consciousness and Upliftment of Humanity Through OM Kriya Yoga" by Shomik Chaudhuri.

3. www.sterlingholidays.com

4. www.avathi.com

5. myholidayhappiness.com

Please do familiarize yourself with WP:RS (particularly WP:SOURCETYPES and WP:RSSELF). Since this article is about a lake built in the 7th century and surrounded by medieval temples, cave temples, and other historic buildings, the best sources for this topic would be published articles/books by historians/archaeologists. Other sources, such as news articles are also acceptable, especially for the part about recent flooding, which wouldn't appear in any history books, for example ("The Hindu" is considered very reliable, The Times of India less so but it depends on context).

The problem with the sources I've mentioned is that anyone can create a blog or write a book. That says nothing for the validity of these sources.

Furthermore, the Mahabharata does mention one Agastya's lake, but it is most likely not this one, since this one was built a few centuries after the compilation of the Mahabharata. -AmateurHi$torian (talk) 11:14, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There might be a local folk/mythological belief that this lake is the one mentioned in the Mahabharata, and that it was built by Agastya himself. That can be included in the article. But the problem is, there has to be a source for this. -AmateurHi$torian (talk) 11:22, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Not a DYK issue, but shouldn't the article be at Agastya Lake, with the L being capitalized? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:59, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Earth605: Please address the above. And yes, this should be at Agastya Lake per MOS:GEOCAPS.--Launchballer 13:10, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Moved. Thank! All issues have been solved. Can somebody give a tick? @Launchballer, Narutolovehinata5, and AmateurHi$torian:. Earth605^talk 15:03, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Earth605: Not quite. The issue remains that there's not a single reliable source which says that this Agastya lake is the Agastya's lake mentioned in the Mahabharata. -AmateurHi$torian (talk) 19:40, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that according to Bunyan Saptomo, the Indonesian mass killings of 1965–66 is not a human rights violation? Source: Kresna, Mawa (6 August 2017). Salam, Fahri (ed.). "Menilik Rekam Jejak 14 Calon Komisioner Komnas HAM" [Examining the Track Record of 14 Candidates for Komnas HAM Commissioner]. Tirto (in Indonesian). Retrieved 19 November 2025. Dari tiga nama ini, Bunyan Saptomo sempat menjadi perhatian saat dialog terbuka pada tahap seleksi. Bunyan mengatakan bahwa hak asasi manusia bukan prinsip dan landasan universal dan kasus pembantaian massal 1965 bukan pelanggaran HAM. [Of the three candidates, Bunyan Saptomo attracted attention during the open dialogue during the selection stage. He stated that human rights are not a universal principle or foundation, and that the 1965 mass killings were not a human rights violation.]
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Daaga and Template:Did you know nominations/Interstate 155 (Missouri–Tennessee)

Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 17:39, 22 November 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that the Assyrian village of Iwardo has become famous due to the heroic defence that took place during the Assyrian genocide?

• Reviewed:
• Comment: The source reads "...we ended up in Ayn Warda, an Assyrian village famous for having been a bastion of resistance to the genocide during World War I."

Surayeproject3 (talk) 17:12, 19 November 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing: - see below
• Neutral: - see below
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

• Cited:
• Interesting: - I don't think it works to center "famous" in the hook, since many places that were the site of well-known military actions gain interest as a result.
• Other problems: - "heroic" fails WP:POV.

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: (t · c) buidhe 02:40, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Having written the Sayfo article, my eye was caught by "it is one of the only episodes of Assyrian resistance to the genocide". I am not sure it's true. What does the source say exactly?
• I have also read elsewhere that the so called "Midyat Rebellion" was an invention of Ottoman officials who imagined that independent resistance efforts were part of a coordinated, seditious conspiracy. But this article posits it as a fact
• Article would benefit from citing Kaiser, Hilmar (2014). The Extermination of Armenians in the Diarbekir Region. İstanbul Bilgi University Press. ISBN 978-605-399-333-9. you only need the section about armed resistance in Tur Abdin, I don't recall if there is a specific subchapter about Iwardo but it has the most detailed and reliable info of any source on this topic (t · c) buidhe 02:40, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Page 55 of the cited source says Only rarely did this resistance result in an Assyrian victory, such as in the villages of Azakh and Ayn-Wardo.; I have changed the article text to "successful episodes" coinciding. The Midyat Rebellion part is cited to an article by David Gaunt; The events of Midyat have enabled Turkish historians to interpret the meager defense as a rebellion, thus justifying the full severity of its repression by the Ottoman authorities. I cannot access Kaiser's 2014 book anywhere. Surayeproject3 (talk) 04:41, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think that the Gaunt source actually supports what I said more than the current wording in the article, since it says that "rebellion" is an interpretation by "Turkish historians". "Were labeled" is vague and suggests this is a more widespread interpretation than it actually is. (t · c) buidhe 20:21, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't disagree with these issues. I have just made some additional changes in "Legacy" to coincide. Surayeproject3 (talk) 21:01, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Just gonna slip in here and agree that the hook has NPOV issues and needs to be changed. TheBritinator (talk) 13:08, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Would a better hook be ...that the village of Iwardo was one of the places where a defence took place during the Assyrian genocide?; or possibly ...that in Iwardo, an Assyrian village in southeastern Turkey, a defence took place during the Assyrian genocide? Something along these lines might do better to fix issues of WP:NPOV. Surayeproject3 (talk) 21:01, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I was looking for another hook but I found some other issues:

• 13,000 men — seems pretty WP:EXTRAORDINARY. That's only a bit less than the Ottomans had at major battles such as the Battle of Aleppo (1918), yet they spared this many men to attack an Assyrian village defended only by haphazardly armed and trained militia in the middle of a war?? and still lost despite outnumbering the strength of the defenders nearly 10:1???
• The last two paras of Background are really confusing. Are Arnas and Enhil the same place? Who is in charge of the defense, Shabo or Miraza? (t · c) buidhe 03:44, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Gaunt (2006), Çetinoğlu (2017), and Akdemir (2023) cite the 13,000 figure. Assyrians developed a force of 6-7,000, so it's actually 2:1 on Ottoman:Assyrian strengths; if it was 10 for Ottoman, Iwardo would have for sure been wiped out. The sources cited also give descriptions of both Shabo and Miraza as leaders of the defence.Surayeproject3 (talk) 04:58, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Based on the article, I thought the 6-7000 figure was for total population and of these only 700-1000 were fighters (which is plausible given demographics at the time). This should be clarified, as should the matter of leadership. It might be helpful to clarify where the 13,000 figure originally comes from (check footnotes), is this from Ottoman documents or is it an estimate from Assyrian oral history? (t · c) buidhe 19:47, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Çetinoğlu cites William Dalrymple's From the Holy Mountain but I couldn't find any statistic info in his writings (on top of that, the source denies Assyrian continuity, which is considered greatly offensive and so I am not willing to include it anyway). Gaunt states that the number of villagers who were in Iwardo is from two sources, including by that Syriac Catholic priest mentioned in "Aftermath", so it's probable these numbers are estimates from Assyrian oral history. I've made it clear that Miraza and Shabo both co-led the defence, especially as Shabo was the village lead of Iwardo during the genocide. Surayeproject3 (talk) 15:40, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am still having trouble with the infobox. The issue with infoboxes in contexts like this one is that they can give the impression of more certainty of figures than the sources do, which is why it is omitted in the Sayfo article. I would recommend removing the infobox or, failing that, keeping it to military strength (the current figure of 7,000 includes civilians, which is not appropriate) and adding (estimated) or something like that. (t · c) buIdhe 19:01, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think the infobox should be deleted outright, but I have removed casualties and changed the military strength numbers. Surayeproject3 (talk) 19:18, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

it still says "Kurdish & Ottoman soldiers surrendered". I don't have the patience to go over the entire article for accuracy issues. (t · c) buIdhe 19:26, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, eventually the Kurdish and Ottoman tribes decided to negotiate a truce and the defence was formally concluded through such. I have removed it anyways as the article still makes this information clear; is there anywhere where I can disseminate specific infobox criteria for articles moving forward? Surayeproject3 (talk) 19:36, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A truce is not the same thing as surrender. At this point I cannot support the article being put on the main page, I think that the content issues are beyond what can be reasonably fixed at DYK. The fact that I'm several comments in and still dealing with basic factual / WP:VER issues is not encouraging. (t · c) buIdhe 06:04, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Hanoikids gave free tours of Hanoi to a prime minister of Australia, an American general, and an American senator?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Emilija Soklič and Template:Did you know nominations/Jahangir With a Portrait of Akbar

Cunard (talk) 08:47, 19 November 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that Japanese musician Tsunku will compose music for the rhythm video game Rhythm Heaven Groove without his vocal cords?

• ALT1: ... that Japanese musician Tsunku will compose music for a rhythm video game without his vocal cords? Source: https://www.ign.com/articles/rhythm-heaven-is-bopping-onto-nintendo-switch-at-long-long-last
• ALT2: ... that the composer for Rhythm Heaven Groove has had his vocal cords removed? Source: https://www.ign.com/articles/rhythm-heaven-is-bopping-onto-nintendo-switch-at-long-long-last
• ALT3: ... that despite removing his vocal cords due to laryngeal cancer, Japanese musician Tsunku will return to compose music for the next game in the Rhythm Heaven series, Rhythm Heaven Groove? Source: https://www.ign.com/articles/rhythm-heaven-is-bopping-onto-nintendo-switch-at-long-long-last
• Reviewed: [[]]
• Comment: Hope I formatted it correctly!

EvanTech10 (talk) 01:27, 21 November 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• As the creator of the draft page, I don't feel comfortable actually reviewing this,, but I wanted to comment. I find the first hook stronger than the other two, but I do wonder if it could be gussied up more. Could it be tweaked to say that he departed the series due to his cancer before returning with Groove? - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 01:45, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Could it be like: ALT4: ... that despite removing his vocal cords due to laryngeal cancer, Japanese musician Tsunku will return to compose music for the next game in the Rhythm Heaven series, Rhythm Heaven Groove? Source: https://www.ign.com/articles/rhythm-heaven-is-bopping-onto-nintendo-switch-at-long-long-last - EvanTech10 (talk) 20:19, 27 November 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Hello, and welcome to DYK. To answer your question, ALT3 is unlikely to be accepted due to being too long. DYK generally prefers shorter hooks as they are more likely to catch attention and be easier to read. I'm not sure if I will give this a review or not, but for now I would say that ALT1 is probably the best option here as it not only a shorter hook compared to ALT4 but also is not reliant on readers knowing about the game to find it interesting. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:43, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Arthur Honegger's only Cello Concerto, in one movement, was premiered by the Boston Symphony Orchestra with soloist Maurice Maréchal (pictured) to whom it is dedicated? Source: several,
  • Reviewed: St. Pauli Church (Hamburg)
  • Comment: Other ideas welcome.

Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:23, 28 November 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• @Gerda Arendt:, please provide the second QPQ or this nom will need to be closed. ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 17:43, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  I am sorry, I completely forgot. I am going to review Template:Did you know nominations/Nubian ibex, but - travelling - it will be later today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:54, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  I reviewed the article now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:45, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that it's possible for players can beat the video game Time Flies within two hours?

• ALT1: ... that time limits in the 2025 video game Time Flies are based on the life expectancy of the country the player selects? Source: Also from Nintendo Life "your in-game lifespan (measured in seconds) is tied to the average life expectancy of the country you're in. [...] You’re free to set any country as your location ahead of each ‘run’."
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Scarlett Spears
• Comment: This looks like another A Short Hike (as the name suggests) video game to me in terms of length. I have nominated this seven days after creation so should be alright.

JuniperChill (talk) 09:44, 28 November 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Humble suggestion as article creator - there are plenty of short games out there - the WHO time limit thing is a much more unique and unusual hook I think! ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 09:47, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • I also feel like the article is a GA standard, even after skim reading. Do you plan to nominate this to GA in the (near) future? JuniperChill (talk) 20:47, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thank you @JuniperChill: - yes, I plan to. Also suggesting a typo fix: that time limits in 2025 video game Time Flies are based on the life expectancy of the country the player selects? ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 23:24, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      • Sure, i have fixed the typo JuniperChill (talk) 09:46, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• • Nominated to GA. Sorry, I missed another typo: time limits in the 2025.... Sorry! ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 17:10, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • Corrected typo again. Of course, these facts may be copyedited by someone at any point during the DYK process. And I see that not only was the article nominated for GA, but is now currently under review. JuniperChill (talk) 19:05, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Eugene Parker (pictured) described the mathematics behind his revolutionary solar wind discovery as "just four lines of algebra"?

• ALT1: ... that Eugene Parker (pictured) never used computers for his research, never co-authored papers unless he personally reproduced all calculations, and never wrote papers with his own PhD students? Source: for reproducing the math and computers [10], for PhD students [11]
• ALT2: ... that astrophysicist Eugene Parker (pictured) had his 1958 solar wind theory dismissed by reviewers and widely rejected by the astronomical community, only to be confirmed just four years later by Mariner 2 spacecraft? Source: [12]
• ALT3: ... that when Eugene Parker (pictured) published his solar wind theory in 1958, it was rejected by peer reviewers and criticized by the astronomical community, but was confirmed by satellite observations within four years? Source: [13]
• ALT4: ... that Eugene Parker's (pictured) 1958 solar wind theory—rejected by reviewers and dismissed by astronomers—was vindicated just four years later when Mariner 2 confirmed his predictions? Source: [14]
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Baker's Horse and Template:Did you know nominations/Siderian (in progress)

Artem.G (talk) 13:09, 25 November 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Artem.G: ALT3 and ALT4 are unacceptable per MOS:POSS, which states:

A possessive construction must immediately be followed by what is possessed. For example:

• Albert Einstein's theory, not Albert Einstein's (pictured) theory

—Anomalocaris (talk) 09:34, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• I think I fixed it, thanks! Artem.G (talk) 12:38, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oi @Artem.G:. QPQs.--Launchballer 14:10, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This needs a review.--Launchballer 19:24, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Not a review, but wouldn't a hook about Parker Solar Probe being the first NASA probe to be named after a (then-)living scientist (him) be a more interesting hook here? It would also be a shorter hook and maybe more understandable. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:48, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Parker is mostly known because the PSP was named after him, so I think it's better to highlight something Parker himself did, rather than the honor NASA gave him. Artem.G (talk) 09:12, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the thing here is that we're aiming for a general audience, not a specialist one. Many might recognize the probe, but many might not even realize that he was still alive at the time it was named after him. Maybe it's just my astronomy buff side showing, but I think the NASA fact will appeal to a broader audience than the work stuff, even if the latter is his accomplishment and what led to the probe being named after him in the first place. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:14, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Arataki Itto in Genshin Impact is voiced by Max Mittelman, the same English voice actor as Persona 5's Ryuji Sakamoto? Sources: https://x.com/GenshinImpact/status/1468460338123264001; https://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/video-games/Genshin-Impact/Arataki-Itto/
  • ALT1: ... that the character Arataki Itto in Genshin Impact received criticism for the lack of detail in his muscular body? Source: https://www.polygon.com/23326918/genshin-impact-sumeru-alhaitham-hoyoverse-arataki-itto-buff-characters/
  • ALT2: ... that the design for the character Arataki Itto in Genshin Impact was inspired by kabuki theatre? Source: https://screenrant.com/genshin-impact-characters-gorou-arataki-itto-japanese-mythology/
  • ALT3: ... that voice actor Max Mittelman was concerned that his performance as Arataki Itto in Genshin Impact would be too similar to Ryuji Sakamoto in Persona 5? Source: https://www.siliconera.com/genshin-impact-itto-voice-actor-worried-about-him-sounding-like-ryuji-in-persona-5/
  • ALT4: ... that the Chinese ice cream company Suibian collaborated with Genshin Impact to release an ice cream bar that looked like Arataki Itto's club? Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20240607094137/https://youxiputao.com/article/24785
  • ALT5: ... that several Genshin Impact players photoshopped Arataki Itto's weapon into ice cream? Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20240607094137/https://youxiputao.com/article/24785
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Yonki-no-kai Productions

Gommeh 📖   🎮 15:57, 21 November 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Not a review, but the image should not be the character's actor per WP:DYKDIVERT. ミラP@Miraclepine 22:35, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • You're right, removed. Gommeh 📖   🎮 22:38, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

• Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
• Interesting: - None of these hooks are interesting to broad audience that isn't familiar with this type of media

QPQ: Done.

Overall: (t · c) buidhe 02:42, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@HurricaneZeta: Thought I would ping you here for your opinion on ALT2, given your response to my DYK nom of Arlecchino (Genshin Impact). I see these hooks as somewhat similar given their (as you put it) "genre-bending construction". Gommeh 📖   🎮 00:48, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think ALT1 is the most interesting here, ALT0 and ALT3 are pretty niche. ALT2 is fine per se, but it could be shortened (for example, cutting the oni part and "the game". In terms of broadness, ALT1 would be the best pick. I would promote ALT1 if I had to here. Z E T A^C 15:57, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've shortened ALT2 as you suggested. Gommeh 📖   🎮 16:17, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Buidhe: thoughts? Gommeh 📖   🎮 16:19, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but it still seems like routine entertainment news and not something that would be interesting to someone who doesn't know anything about the media. (t · c) buidhe 03:19, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Gommeh: Please address the above.--Launchballer 13:04, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not really sure how I could, as I think it's plenty interesting as is. Gommeh 📖   🎮 15:29, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2 depends on knowing what kabuki theatre is and the others are dull. I'm surprised you've not tried on a hook about ice cream.--Launchballer 15:40, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Added as ALT4. I didn't think that was interesting enough at first but have changed my mind. Gommeh 📖   🎮 16:08, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I was thinking more along the lines of ALT5: ... that several Genshin Impact players photoshopped Arataki Itto's weapon into ice cream? or ALT6: ... that the Genshin Impact character Arataki Itto fights with what looks like a chocolate-covered ice cream bar?--Launchballer 17:14, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'll add your ALT5 here, not sure if I like ALT6. Gommeh 📖   🎮 17:46, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I must ask for another reviewer for ALT5.--Launchballer 11:15, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the Jermyn Street showroom of Andrew Grima has been compared to a "Bond villain lair"?

• Reviewed: Andreas Papandreou and Sultan Ibrahim Adil Shah II playing the tambur

No Swan So Fine (talk) 22:28, 26 November 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• I'll take this review Dwkaminski (talk) 13:47, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing: - see comments below
• Neutral:
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

• Cited:
• Interesting:
• Other problems: - see comments below

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Dwkaminski (talk) 13:48, 2 December 2025 (UTC) Review comments:[reply]

• New enough - Created 11/22/25 and nominated 11/24/25
• Long enough - article contains 2442 characters of prose
• References:
  • The Design Journal reference does not support "circular, white, concrete structure" in the description of the office. Circular is in regard to the display cases and there is no mention of construction material. Also states that architects are G. and G. Grima but does not say that they are brothers of shop owner. This fact is also referenced by Daily Telegraph but I could not access it. Is it described there?
  • I've added an archived cite for brothers and amended the structure quote. No Swan So Fine (talk) 22:41, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • The National Heritage List of England reference - I don't see the support for "extraordinary" statement. I see Grade II for Wartski's
    • The NHLE article mentions "A precursor of Wartski's was the extraordinary Grima jewellers shop front in Jermyn Street (1962), composed of rough-hewn slate slabs and steel with very small windows, which does not survive." [15] No Swan So Fine (talk) 22:41, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • I can't access Brown ref but AGF
• Earwig copyvio calculator shows 23.1% violation unlikely - it's all due to the Grima quote and is OK
• hook other comments - I think the hook is interesting - however a couple comments. I'm not sure everyone knows James Bond - you may want to link to the List of James Bond villains page. Also not sure if you should have the quotation marks for just part of the quote. Consider keeping just James Bond without quotes or adding the whole quote (and also linking to Barbarella (film)
• Comment. Why is this article called "Jermyn Street showroom of Andrew Grima"? Did he have another showroom somewhere else? If not, I would recommend changing the article title to Andrew Grima showroom. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 16:03, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • He had similarly bold showrooms in Zurich and Sydney. X showroom of X feels more aestheticly pleasing.No Swan So Fine (talk) 18:01, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• @No Swan So Fine: I've completed my review. Just a few comments to address on references and hook. I have no dog in the hunt on the name of the page and I will approve with or without that change. Well referenced and interesting article. Good job! Dwkaminski (talk) 18:54, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the Congo River Alliance formed a rival adminstration in the Democratic Republic of the Congo?

• Reviewed:

JaxsonR (talk) 23:07, 24 November 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Sorry, it does not pass the DYK requirement of 1500 characters of prose. Currently at just 1055. --Երևանցի ^talk 11:24, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sure @JaxsonR: can be given some time to expand this.--Launchballer 17:14, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have expanded it. JaxsonR (talk)

Why do we need a separate article for its area of control? Is there a precedent for this? Why shouldn't this article be merged into Congo River Alliance? --Երևանցի ^talk 08:36, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• closed, article has been merged. ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 16:50, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge has been reverted, though discussion on whether to merge should take place elsewhere. ミラP@Miraclepine 00:06, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

At AfD; this must go on hold until that resolves.--Launchballer 13:27, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The nominator !voted "Delete" in the AfD, which can be interpreted as a de-facto withdrawal since they no longer agree that the article should stay on Wikipedia in its current form. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:25, 5 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Kayla Simmons served as a team captain in volleyball for at least ten years? note:withdrawn by me as nom, see why below

• ALT1: ... that Kayla Simmons, a former volleyball player, is now a model and OnlyFans creator? Source: Also from SCMP: "She’s also a model [...] and a creator on adult entertainment platform OnlyFans"
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Laura Kampf
• Comment: Permitted per WP:CALC. I would like to note that as she's the "world's sexiest volleyball player", that the article may be NSFW as she's now a model and mostly posts on social media in her revealing bikinis. I have provided ALT1 for this reason.

JuniperChill (talk) 11:31, 25 November 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• @JuniperChill: Not a review, but WP:NYPOST at least isn't reliable. What makes the others suitable for a BLP?--Launchballer 11:41, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • I looked at WP:RSP and it says that NYP may be used if its under the entertainment section and the one I cited says falls under that. At least SCMP is reliable (hence why I've used that several times) and the rest are not there. JuniperChill (talk) 12:01, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • Note: I have made the decision not to use ALT0 as I would expect the reader to think its a biography about her volleyball career, when its mostly about her modelling career in revealing bikinis and swimsuits. Maybe I could combine both and say ALT2:"that after Kayla Simmons served as a team captain in volleyball for ten years, she is now a model and OnlyFans creator?" JuniperChill (talk) 21:28, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • Read further on the RSP entry - NYPOST is not to be used for controversial facts about living people. I also spotchecked this, after seeing some odd language Look at By the time Kayla Simmons graduated, she already built up an incredible following that continues to grow.[16] and compare w/ the article's By the time she graduated, she already built up an incredible amount of following. This is pretty closely paraphrased and while sentences this short can fall under LIMITED, I don't think this one does; it's a bit too complex, and the actual heart of the sentence- "incredible following" isn't that needed? Anyways, I'm not rejecting or that, but please fix it and double check the rest of the article for any similar issues. GreenLipstickLesbian💌🧸 02:12, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      • To be fair, I'm not sure if its controversial because the quote in the source is from herself, where it says "“I wanted small boobs because it would make everything easier for volleyball" to the point WP:ABOUTSELF applies. And this is my first biography article, where I thought I had hope with Lauren Burch (a Canadian social media influencer/cosplay with over 8m Tiktok following). I also reworded the close paraphrasing to At the time her of graduation, she already had a lot of following. JuniperChill (talk) 17:55, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      • Chiming in here. I agree that, while the use of the NY Post is not ideal, it is not a deprecated source and may be used in limited circumstances. Assuming that the interview is authentic, this does appear to be an WP:ABOUTSELF case, so it should be acceptable in this particular case. Having said that, if better sources could be found that support the claims, then use those instead or in addition to the NY Post source. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:06, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that people sometimes experience short-term memory loss when they walk through doorways or switch tasks?

• Reviewed:

The Last Prototype (talk) 05:39, 25 November 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing: - One citation is missing page information.
• Neutral:
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: AGF on the paywalled hook source. Just one issue that needs to be resolved. SounderBruce 18:59, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@SounderBruce: Thanks for your help! I've added the missing page information to the citation. Please let me know if any other changes are needed. The Last Prototype (talk) 20:12, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Israeli hostages were sexually abused during their captivity in Gaza by Hamas?

• ALT1: ... that Guy Gilboa Dalal told the captor who sexually abused him – this is forbidden in Islam? Source: https://www.ynetnews.com/article/r1cwu5iewx
• ALT2: ... that one of the hostages was forced to commit sexual acts for her Hamas captor? Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20240326175027/https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/released-hostage-amit-soussana-tells-nyt-she-was-sexually-assaulted-by-hamas-captor-in-gaza/
• Reviewed:

ShoBDin (talk) 16:38, 24 November 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• on hold while article is at AfD. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 22:02, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment alt0 can not be used because the CNN article never explicitly says that, I don't think alt 1 passes WP:DYKINTEREST "man says thing", and alt2's article has been debunked by the PBS, among others. User:Easternsahara_{review this} 23:57, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that in August 2025, tech podcaster Dwarkesh Patel started a fundraiser that raised over $2 million for anti-factory farming charities?
  • Source: "Earlier this month, a fundraiser for nonprofits that fight to end factory farming went a little viral — at least in one corner of the internet...Dwarkesh Patel, the influential tech podcaster, announced on his show that if his listeners donated a collective $250,000 to FarmKind, an organization that distributes money to anti-factory farming charities, so would he. They did — and then some...So far, Patel and his listeners — including Stripe CEO Patrick Collison, professional poker player Liv Boeree, and popular Substack writer Noah Smith — have raised over $2 million. For the global anti-factory farming movement, which works on a shoestring budget to fix one of the most challenging and neglected social issues of our time, that’s a lot of money."Vox
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jessica Forrest, Template:Did you know nominations/John Holmes Jackson
  • Comment: Alt hooks welcome

Thriley (talk) 19:29, 3 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• I will review this. Viriditas (talk) 22:12, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Thriley: why do you need the month and year in the hook? Can you add an ALT1 without it please? Also, you could eliminate more words. "Started a fundraiser" is just redundant. By shortening it to something like "... that tech podcaster Dwarkesh Patel helped raise over $2 million for anti-factory farming charities?" gives you an opportunity to add more interesting material to it or just keep it short. Viriditas (talk) 22:25, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ALT0a: "... that tech podcaster Dwarkesh Patel raised $2 million for anti-factory farming charities?" —🌊PacificDepths (talk) 01:30, 8 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Moved from AFC draft to mainspace on 25 November.[17] Nominated for DYK 3 December.[18] Based on the timestamps, this is 188.88 hours, or 7.87 days, almost 21 hours over the deadline; I assume this is within the grace period given that the "seven-day limit can be extended for a day or two upon request". I need a second opinion for this review as I made far too many edits cleaning this up, rewriting and adding content, and proposing new hooks up above. Viriditas (talk) 00:52, 8 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that within seven years, Mamadali Kurbanov rose from being a miner to being a prime minister?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Skip Thomas & Template:Did you know nominations/Camp Lakeview
• Comment: The second QPQ will be done within 24 hours.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:49, 2 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

• Cited:
• Interesting:
• Other problems: - Wording is imprecise. See below in comments.

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article is long and new enough; it was submitted for DYK nomination within the required timeframe. It is properly sourced and impartial. The hook is interesting, but needs rewording for clarification. Although I'm very familiar with Russian and RSFSR history, my knowledge about some former Soviet republics is less sure. Because of the change in the political system that occurred when the Tajik SSR became modern Tajikistan, is it accurate to refer to the position of the Chairmen of the Council of People's Commissars as that of a "prime minister"? The article for Prime Minister of Tajikistan seems unclear. However, the article for Izatullo Khayoyev states that he was "the first Prime Minister of Tajikistan" and distinguishes between that role and his previous role as Chairmen of the Council of Ministers, which is the same that Kurbanov had once held. CurryTime7-24 (talk) 19:51, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@BeanieFan11: Please respond to the above comment. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:49, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Will address it tomorrow. BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:52, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@CurryTime7-24: Would it make sense to say "head of government" rather than "prime minister"? E.g. ... that within seven years, Mamadali Kurbanov rose from being a miner to being a head of government? BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:53, 8 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Israel's Tipat Halav well-baby care centers literally mean "a drop of milk"?

• ALT1: ... that Tipat Halav, the Israeli national network of 900 well-baby care centers, derives its name from "une goutte de lait" (literally, "a drop of milk"), a line in a poem by Alfred de Musset?
• Source: (number of centers) "Knesset Health C'ttee hears of jumble of authorities, responsibilities of baby clinics" "Over a decade ago, the Health Ministry divided up the 900 well-baby (tipat halav) clinics around the country so that some were owned and run by the four public health funds, others by the Jerusalem and Tel Aviv Municipalities, and the rest by the ministry." (derivation of namefrom French) "Why are Israeli infant clinics called Tipat Halav - 'a drop of milk'", "But the name 'Tipat Khalav' didn't come from Hebrew.... The phrase came from a poem by Alfred de Musset; The key line reads: 'Une goutte de lait à l'enfant nouveau-né' / 'a drop of milk for the newborn child'"

• • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Darius Holland and Template:Did you know nominations/Horvat Sumaqa
  • Comment: QPQ double dose to follow

Alansohn (talk) 19:24, 2 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• New enough. Long enough. Copyright violations unlikely per Earwig. Well written (with a tendency for long sentences). QPQs done. Reliable citations throughout for the most part. I'm not sure about citing an Instagram post by Elon Gilad for the hooks. See: Wikipedia:Reliable_sources#Questionable_sources.
• Alansohn, can you find another source for the quote? Or propose a hook that can be supported by reliable sources? Hybernator (talk) 02:02, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hybernator, thanks for the review. I'll work on an alternate source. Alansohn (talk) 07:28, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the Siderian is the earliest internationally recognized period on the geological timescale?

• ALT1: ... that oxygen levels in the Siderian Period rised to at least 10,000 times its original level? Source: Catling & Zahnle (February 2020). "The Archean atmosphere".
• ALT2: ... that a magma plume breakout occurred during the Siderian Period on a global level? Source: Barley et al. (September 2005). "Late Archean to Early Paleoproterozoic global tectonics, environmental change and the rise of atmospheric oxygen".
• Reviewed:
• Comment: Hey, I was expanding the Siderian page a lot recently, and I was wondering if it's eligible to be run as a DYK? This is my first nomination in this area, and while I wasn't able to find a picture, I have some ideas regarding what I've added on the article in the past week.
  Although, there was one caveat I wanted to point out: for the ALT2 hook, the information is within a two-sentence paragraph, with it as the first sentence and the reference at the paragraph's end. I have read the rules regarding the insufficiency of paragraph references, but I still included this hook because I believe it presents itself well, and I might as well give it a chance.

— Alex26337 ^(talk) 14:30, 2 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Article was expanded in the span of the last week. Sourcing looks fine, images have appropriate licences. No copyvio detected, qpq not required. First hook is interesting, ALT01 is meh, and ALT12 is too technical (I have no idea how interesting it is as I don't really understand it).
• Shouldn't the first hook contain "of Proterozoic Eon"? According to the source, Hadean and Archean were before Siderian. Pinging @Alex26337:. Artem.G (talk) 19:14, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  @Artem.G: While the Hadean and Archean do occur before the Siderian, they are not classified as a period of time, but rather as an eon and era respectively. According to the ICS's classification, The use of the Siderian is the first (or earliest) time where eras are subdivided into periods (see Geologic time scale § Divisions of geologic time). — Alex26337 ^(talk) 19:33, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That has to be clarified. The distinction between eon, era, and period is considered technical knowledge. Per WP:DYKINT, hooks need to avoid being reliant on specialist information, and the word "period" is vague enough that it may refer to a "period of time" and not simply "period" in the scientific sense. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:08, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Narutolovehinata5: I can try formatting the hook like this:

"... that the Siderian Period is the earliest internationally recognized period on the geological timescale?"

However, I feel like the word "period" may be seen in a redundant form, though I welcome an alternate opinion if you have one.

When I consider other ways I can specify that word though, I only have so many choices. I don't think I'd want to capitalize the period at the end of the sentence (i.e., "...recognized Period on the geological timescale?") because I believe that would be leaning to a grammatic flaw. A similiar issue is brought up when considering the hook be changed to "...recognized stratigraphic period on the geological timescale?", because, while the adjective is a nice addition, the fact would then be incorrect, since the boundaries of this period are defined chronologically (and thus, puts more emphasis on the disambiguity of time).

Generally, pairing "period" with "geological timescale" is what I feel is as close as I can get to making the word specific (unless you view the first alteration in this comment as a better choice), without it being misinterpreted as something else, though this draws a fine line since the word is always on the subject of time. — Alex26337 ^(talk) 23:48, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Alex26337: Unfortunately, I do not think this solves the issue, as "period" is still too vague to be unambiguous to the average reader. Again, the issue is the word "period" itself: it has different meanings to a layperson and to a scientist. Since this is DYK, and we are appealing mainly to non-specialists, we want to run hooks that are as precise as possible and avoid ambiguity. "Internationally recognized period" does not work because, again, that would not stop a layperson from asking "how is an eon not a period?" Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:00, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The solution here, I think the solution here would be to make geologic period a link (i.e. geologic period), which would at least help emphasize that it is talking about a specific concept. It would not solve the ambiguity 100%, but it would definitely help prevent misunderstandings. This would require rewriting the hook, however, so ALT1 as currently written wouldn't work. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:27, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Unit 700 of Quds force and Unit 4400 of Hezbollah collaborated to smuggle drones from Europe?

• ALT1: ... that Hezbollah established a European network for drone smuggling? Source: https://en.kataeb.org/articles/sl-33273
• Reviewed:

ShoBDin (talk) 13:35, 25 November 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• The article relies heavily on Israeli and highly partisan sources such as Kataeb, Iran International. Le Figaro and other mainstream/reliable sources should be cited instead of intermediaries. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but the article treats the existence and structure of the network as established fact rather than allegations by prosecutors. --Երևանցի ^talk 10:53, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the Kingdom of Kubala claims land in Scotland that they allege was stolen from them when Elizabeth I deported black Jacobites?

• Reviewed:

GoldenBootWizard276 (talk) 21:32, 27 November 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• The article is new enough and long enough, and the hook is definitely interesting. However the page needs a look at for reliable sources. The DYK hook is directly referenced to the Daily Express. Per WP:DAILYEXPRESS this source is not recommended. The Newsflare source is "Uploaded by a Newsflare content partner", which doesn't seem very definitive. The hook is also cited to NDTV, but their description of the claimed history is a lot less. Unknown Temptation (talk) 15:27, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • The article itself should probably mention somewhere that the Jacobite movement did not come into effect until 1688, which was 85 years after Elizabeth I died. I'm not saying that has to affect the hook, though. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 21:40, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that a November 2025 ban on horses sparked discussions about censorship of adult content?
  • ALT1: ... that horses suffered a ban in November 2025?
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Cūḷāmaṇi Cetiya
  • Comment: Driveby nom intended for WP:DYKAPRIL.

Launchballer 10:13, 7 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that 22-year-old Elliot Rodger murdered six people during the 2014 Isla Vista killings because he claimed women rejected him and he had never had sex?

• ALT1: ... that 22-year-old Elliot Rodger murdered six people and injured fourteen others during the 2014 Isla Vista killings because he was a lifelong virgin and believed women had rejected him? Source: BBC
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/It's Only a Game (collection)

Shoot for the Stars (talk) 00:53, 1 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• comment: would suggest waiting to see if Rodger's article passes GAN for a double hook. Roast (talk) 02:03, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: I find the idea of linking a horrific real-life murder spree that took the lives of six innocent people as a cute little bite-sized "fun fact" to be in incredibly, incredibly poor taste. CornyDude22 (talk) 13:17, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

While I'm not opposed to this running in principle - one of the WP:DYKAIMs is to showcase the range of our content and that includes topics like this one - presenting what are the deranged rantings of an incel on the main page is a bit much. I have struck the two hooks, and suggest that @Shoot for the Stars: propose something else; I suggest ALT2: ... that six 2014 killings committed by Elliot Rodger sparked discussion of broader issues of violence against women and misogyny? or perhaps something about California's first red flag law. You may also wish to see if either WP:GARC or WP:GARP would take Rodger's article so this can run as a double nom.--Launchballer 20:53, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ALT3 ... that the 2014 Isla Vista killings led to California enacting a red-flag law, which allows family members to petition courts to remove weapons from persons deemed a threat?

TarnishedPath^talk 00:36, 8 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that a killer nurse from Texas reportedly inspired the character of Annie Wilkes in Stephen King's Misery?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Raudin Anwar
• Comment: I decided to avoid the term "serial killer" in the hook because (and regretfully) this frail-looking evil woman managed to "technically" escape the term and nearly got free! Edit upon seeing tag: I see that probably Newsmax triggers depecrated tag... Please if you need me to find out more reliable sources (The Conversation I think it's okay), ping me.

CoryGlee 20:19, 29 November 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Comment: would suggest rewording it to remove all links but Jones' in order to keep traffic from the hook to the improved article. Perhaps "... that a Stephen King antagonist was reportedly inspired by a real-life killer nurse? The inclusion of 'real-life' can be removed if preferred. Roast (talk) 00:48, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: yes, sorry, I still don't get those issues fully. Sorry Guerreroast. Sorry. CoryGlee 01:30, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that "Es hat sich halt eröffnet", a traditional 18th-century Christmas carol from Tyrol and Swabia, imagines many angels tumbling from the gate of Heaven that opened (pictured) ? Source: several
  • Reviewed: Shuanglong Bridge
  • Comment: For Christmas Eve, 24 December. The angels, boys and girls, in somersaults, are mentioned in the first stanza, and the image comes close.

Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:59, 6 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Not a review, but given that this is talking about the events of a song, wouldn't this violate WP:DYKFICTION? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:23, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  It is fact about the song being that old and from where (and interesting that from two areas now in different countries, and even then disconnected). The rest is a translation of things from the first stanza, to say what someone not reading German could not know. It adds interest, - I don't know about any other song imagining the little angels doing somersaults, and it connects to the image (which isn't brilliant but has a similar idea). Sadly, it hasn't been translated into English, and is so much (cute) dialect that translation programs won't help. - Listen, it's fun ;) - Thanks to Michael Bednarek who brought that into our Lilypond. Other hook ideas welcome, of course. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:42, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) Our guidelines already state that saying that an article subject is a work of fiction does not count as meeting the real-world requirement for the purposes of WP:DYKFICTION. A new angle may be needed here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:44, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What in "18th-century song from Tyrol and Swabia" is fiction? We better also say what it is about, especially if that is interesting: little angels tumbling through the gate of Heaven that opened. I found a site translating into German, and that fed to Deepls results in: "The heavenly gate has opened / The little angels tumble out in great numbers / The boys and girls do somersaults / First up and down, then back and forth / Then below again, then on top of each other, which makes them even happier." Listen and enjoy. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:57, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WP:DYKFICTION states simply acknowledging that a hook is about a creative work is not sufficient, nor is adding an unrelated real-world fact to a hook which is otherwise about a creative element. In this case, saying that the hook's subject is a real-world carol from a real-world place (such as saying that the carol came from Austria), but is still ultimately about "in-universe" or "in-plot" information (i.e. what is happening in the carol), would not count as a real-world connection. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:11, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I wish you a merry season. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:48, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ideas? Viriditas, perhaps? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:22, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Gerda, you've got some great potential hooks in that article. You don’t need my help. Viriditas (talk) 20:03, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• This appears to be at an impasse, so giving some hook suggestions here. One of the hooks is misleading, but it might work as an April Fools hook if you are willing to have this run on April Fools instead of Christmas. However, it might also work as a quirky.

• ALT1 ... that Karl Marx made an arrangement of a Christmas carol? (The link to Marx could be removed if this runs on April Fools)
• ALT2 ... that "Es hat sich halt eröffnet" is the only known Christmas carol in the Swabian German dialect? (This would require modifying the article and stronger sourcing per WP:DYKHOOKCITE due to it being a superlative hook)
• ALT3 ... that a hallelujah was added to the Christmas carol "Es hat sich halt eröffnet" after it was criticized for being too secular?

Pinging Viriditas for thoughts on these proposals. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:15, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the offers. I am not interested in ALT2, because it is purely historical and offers no joy. I could live with ALT1 if nothing else gets accepted, but hope we will not have to do that. ALT3 is correct, but true for more than this song, and softly misleading regarding what "too secular" may mean. I thought of the following (before I saw the suggestions, - just had no time yet):

• ALT4: ... that "Es hat sich halt eröffnet", a traditional 18th-century Christmas carol, uses dialect words from Tyrol and Swabia such as "purzigagalan" (somersaults)?

I would like the information about the two disconnect areas without saying "first" or "only", as unusual. I would like a hint at how old this is, - Mozart may have known it (published the year he was born, but probably older), imagine ;) - Have you listened? I would like to offer some of the fun in this song as a little Christmas present. Any suggestion to capture the little boys and girls angels enjoying their playing is welcome. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:52, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that MLS Cup 2025 was the final professional match at Chase Stadium? Source: The Athletic (subscription required)
  • ALT1: ... that the broadcast of MLS Cup 2025 used iPhones for some footage? Source: Sports Business Journal
  • ALT2: ... that after MLS Cup 2025, David Beckham became the first person to win the MLS Cup as a player and owner? Source: The Athletic (subscription required)
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Poecilia butleri, Template:Did you know nominations/Event perception
  • Comment: More hooks to come after the match is played on December 6.

SounderBruce 19:02, 4 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• I'll review this! Both hooks seem interesting at first glance, and I'm looking forward to possible future hooks after the game. JTtheOG (talk) 06:53, 5 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not a review, but ALT1 is probably the better hook here since it is less reliant on football/soccer knowledge and this is more "accessible". Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:28, 5 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@SounderBruce: Just wondering if you still wanted to add any additional hooks? JTtheOG (talk) 22:59, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@JTtheOG: Modified the two hooks and added a new ALT2. SounderBruce 04:05, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that in 2004, two painted slabs of the Berlin Wall joined the collection of public art in Battery Park City in New York City?

• Reviewed:
• Comment: Additional sources:

• https://www.hmdb.org/m.asp?m=132053
• https://bpca.ny.gov/place/berlin-wall-segment/
• https://www.6sqft.com/where-to-see-pieces-of-the-berlin-wall-in-nyc/
• https://www.untappedcities.com/mapping-the-5-pieces-of-the-berlin-wall-in-nyc/

The YouTube video is part of a series of videos produced by the Battery Park City Authority about public art in the neighborhood and is the most detailed source.

Aude (talk) 01:25, 4 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• If this is not interesting enough, I would be okay with a different hook from the article, such as about Roy Lichtenstein’s sculpture, or Wheatfield — A Confrontation. Also, I think the impacts of the upcoming flood resiliency construction project are not well-known, though not sure how interesting it is. Aude (talk) 02:04, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the 1986 Intercontinental Cup was River Plate's Norberto "Beto" Alonso (pictured) last match as professional footballer?

• Reviewed:

Crispybeatle (talk)

02:25, 1 December 2025 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing:
• Neutral:
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
• Other problems: - One comment to be made: There's a section that refers to Steaua București's goal as "wrongfully" ruled offside. The sourced quotes seem to suggest this is coming from the players themselves, and not objective analysis of the game. Not sure this fits into WP:NPOV but that is a nitpick.

Hook eligibility:

• Cited:
• Interesting: - The hook seems to focus more on Beto Alonso than the subject itself. The current hook is also somewhat uninteresting. I would find a hook that garners more interest and focuses more on the match itself.

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Article is well written, sourced, and plagirism free. I just have a few comments on the hook's interest and the neutrality of a statement of the article. Once the nominator has covered those issues, or spoken on them, I'd support! Great work on this article! --^The Robot Parade 05:27, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• @Crispybeatle: Please propose a new hook as the current one does not meet interestingness requirements. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:24, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the Roman and Byzantine Old Haifa, Medieval Old Haifa, and the Old City of Haifa (pictured), are all different places?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Morris Katz (political strategist) and Template:Did you know nominations/Cyprinodon dearborni

Onceinawhile (talk) 22:35, 30 November 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Surprised to see this article in its current state: it's a highly sensitive topic, yet major claims lack sourcing; some parts rely entirely on Ilan Pappé, whose works are considered highly controversial by many historians, and whose own public remarks also raise POV concerns (including describing himself as a "good friend" of Hamas leader, Ismail Haniyeh, and his recent report of being detained and questioned by US authorities over alleged Hamas support). Key context is missing as well, including the Battle of Haifa, actions by both sides, and calls by the city's Jewish leadership for Arab residents to remain. Tagging for NPOV and sourcing issues. Rafi Chazon (talk) 08:15, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The majority of this comment is built on the claim that: some parts rely entirely on Ilan Pappé. Pappé is used once, for half of a minor bullet. So no problem to delete the Pappé source entirely, but I believe it has been established elsewhere that he is a reliable source, so your claims about him may conflict with community consensus. Suggest we let others comment.

On the Battle of Haifa (1948), we can add more context from that article, but it won’t change the explanation of the reason for the demolition, which took place afterwards. We could also add more context from Nakba. The Old Jaffa or Old City of Acre articles do not go into that detail - they are more focused on heritage and architecture, which in my view is also most appropriate for this article. Onceinawhile (talk) 14:28, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• The article is new and sufficiently long, but several paragraphs lack sources and the other two Old Haifas are not mentioned in the article. Perhaps a hook about its destruction and the reasons for the destruction would be more interesting. Surtsicna (talk) 08:16, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I have been preparing those additional sources, including explaining the other “Old Haifas”, and will add them shortly. Onceinawhile (talk) 14:29, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Surtsicna: I have added the remaining sources and explained the complex situation with the other two old Haifas. Onceinawhile (talk) 21:35, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Onceinawhile, the article still does not say that these three all different places. Have we got a source that says that? If not, I would still suggest that you propose a hook about its destruction. Surtsicna (talk) 09:39, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Surtsicna, the article says The Old City of Haifa had at least two predecessors: the Roman and Byzantine city 2.5km to the southeast, and the medieval city 2.5km to the northwest.[5][6]

Onceinawhile (talk) 00:23, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Cecil Kent Drinker proposed safety measures to ensure factory workers did not suffer the same outcome as the Radium Girls?

• ALT1: ... that Cecil Kent Drinker conducted research that resulted in the development of high-altitude oxygen masks and goggles for pilots? Source: During World War II, he conducted research for the United States Armed Forces' National Defense Research Committee which resulted in the development of high-altitude oxygen masks and goggles for pilots. (Source)
• ALT2: ... that Cecil Kent Drinker was the first dean of the Harvard School of Public Health to admit women as degree candidates? Source: He was the first dean to admit women into the school of public health as degree candidates. (Source)
• ALT3: ... that Cecil Kent Drinker was a drinker? Source: He suffered from alcoholism and lost his leadership position at Harvard in 1942. (Source: Spears page 82)
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/HMS Busy (1778)Template:Did you know nominations/Jermyn Street showroom of Andrew Grima

Dwkaminski (talk) 22:10, 1 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• @Dwkaminski: Please note that WP:QPQ requires QPQs to be provided at the time of the nomination. This nomination may be closed within 24 hours if the necessary QPQs are not provided in time. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:40, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • completed one on HMS Busy Dwkaminski (talk) 13:31, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, but as you have over 20 nominations and we are currently in backlog mode, you need to provide another. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:51, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also completed Jermyn Street showroom of Andrew Grima Dwkaminski (talk) 18:56, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• I'm not sure any of these hooks pass WP:DYKINTEREST. for ALT0-2, it's obvious that someone would have held these roles, so it's not necessarily sufficiently novel to name the person involved. ALT3 is an interesting wordplay but I'm not sure it's enough for the main page. (t · c) buIdhe 17:42, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Wow... tough room. Agree that ALT3 is a throw-away. Fair enough on ALT2 that someone had to be first but disagree on ALT0 and ALT1. Howzabout:
  • ALT4: ... that Cecil Kent Drinker published his safety report on employee radium exposure only after the president of the United States Radium Corporation issued a forged report in his name? Source: A Harvard School of Public Health colleague, Alice Hamilton, learned that the United States Radium Corporation had submitted Drinker's report to the New Jersey Department of Labor with the results altered to show the company in a better light. With this evidence that Roeder had acted in bad faith, Drinker ignored the threat of lawsuit and published his unaltered report. (Source)
    • That's definitely the best one proposed. Although you might consider combining ALT3 and 4 by substituting "a drinker" bold linked instead of his name. (t · c) buIdhe 18:31, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      • I'll pass on combing ALT3 and ALT4 as proposed. I thought it was funny to do the play on words but don't want to forsake his name in the main hook for one negative portion of his life. Thanks! Dwkaminski (talk) 18:38, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Singapore's deputy prime minister Goh Keng Swee called Malaysia an "Albatross round our necks"?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Otago Farmers Market

KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 04:03, 10 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• I actually hoped to expand it much more before a DYK nomination. But also, I'm not going to oppose a nomination at this stage. I still want to suggest a couple more alts though:
  • ALT1: ...that the Albatross file, a series of documents covering the period leading up to Singapore's separation from Malaysia in 1965, was briefly considered lost before it was rediscovered in 1982? Sim, Susan, ed. (2025). The Albatross File: Inside Separation. Straits Times Press. ISBN 9789815081312. p 8
  • ALT2: ...that according to the Albatross file, Singapore's deputy prime minister Goh Keng Swee never raised any proposals for a looser federation or a confederation with the Malaysian leaders despite Lee Kuan Yew's instructions? [19]

ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 05:15, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that in 1876, more than 90% of Connecticut voters agreed to repeal the requirement of being white to vote?

• Reviewed:

Thefinals626472 (talk) 01:15, 8 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• General eligibility:
• New enough:
• Long enough:
• Other problems:

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing:
• Neutral:
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
• Other problems:

Hook eligibility:

• Cited:
• Interesting: - n
• Other problems:

Image eligibility:

• Freely licensed: - n/a
• Used in article: - na
• Clear at 100px: - na

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Hook should ideally be more interesting. Maybe a look into who proposed the amendment /what prompted its proposal? Maximilian775 (talk) 16:34, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Billy Gallagher's Times Square cabaret was open from sundown to dawn, with a mix of "reputable people" and those "who had practical reasons for circulating after dark"?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/R & S Building

Alansohn (talk) 09:42, 7 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• New, long enough, sourced, no apparent copyvios. The hook largely checks out, and is interesting. Mike Christie and Alansohn, there are two slight issues. First, I'm a bit confused by his establishments. The hook says he had a Times Square cabaret, but the article speaks of (a) "a restaurant named Broadway Gardens at 711 Seventh Avenue", (b) "a restaurant in Times Square near 47th Street", and a "cabaret ... that opened after the sun set and ... remain[ed] open until dawn". Are these each different things? Second, the article could benefit from a bit of attention paid to its formatting. Although the length requirement for DYK is not onerous, having a single-sentence lead followed but a single section titled "Life" is less than ideal. Could a few subsections be added? Overall, though, an interesting article. It's fun to see an article like this, pulling up old sources about someone who seems to have been largely lost to the past. --Usernameunique (talk) 06:53, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• • Usernameunique, thanks for the review and the recommendations. It's always hard to dig up further details for someone who lived and died so long ago, but I will do my best. Let me make sure that the location details cited are accurate. Thanks again! Alansohn (talk) 07:26, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that photographer Alexander Binder created thousands of portrait photographs, but is not himself featured in any surviving portrait?
  • Reviewed: This is my first nomination, no QPQ needed.

Weltalf (talk) 09:28, 5 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Not a review, but two paragraphs are unsourced (with a third ending in unsourced claims despite having sources), and the not himself featured in any surviving portrait part isn't even mentioned in the article. Nominated articles generally should not have unsourced claims and the hook should be in the article itself; please see the DYK rules at WP:DYKG. Welcome to DYK though. ミラP@Miraclepine 22:08, 5 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a review:

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing: - n
• Neutral:
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: - n

Hook eligibility:

• Cited: - n
• Interesting:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: The article is new enough, having been created 3 December, and nominated on the 5th. It is also long enough, and Earwig reports no copyvio concerns (although as most the sources are offline ones, there is a certain amount of AGF here). see below) Also noting as Miraclepine has above that there are unsourced paragraphs and facts in the article, which needs fixing. I find the hook fact interesting, but it isn't cited in the article. If the hook is sourced to an offline source, you will need to provide a quote so that I can verify it.

What is a "signet"? I have not come across the term used like this before (only in signet ring) and am not convinced this is standard usage for how photographers sign their work.

Besides fixing the hook and sourcing issues, I would also encourage you to put a couple of other facts from the article in the lead, so it is a better summary of the article.

These are all fixable issues, Weltalf, please don't be discouraged, have a go and ping me when you're ready for me to look at it again. DrThneed (talk) 22:46, 5 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Alright I did a check on the one online source, which is in German, and realised a couple of sentences are straight translations of copyrighted material: "In the late 1920s and 1930s, up to 1937, the Binder studio was considered the largest photographic studio in Europe." and "In 1948/49, the Binder studio was taken over by the company Hasse and Wiese.". I believe this is a copyright violation and these should be rephrased. DrThneed (talk) 23:07, 5 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the mayor of Oxnard, California opposed the eviction of a women's drug rehabilitation center that was occupying part of College Park?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/John Stone (sheriff)

StonyBrook _babble 09:48, 10 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that on November 7, 1910, the world's first commercial air cargo flight took place (pictured), in the United States between Dayton, Ohio, and Columbus, Ohio, flown by Wright Brothers' pilot Philip Parmalee in a Wright Model B airplane, carrying a consignment of 200 pounds (about 88 kilograms) consisting of two parcels of silk for department store owner Max Moorehouse?
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: Nomination suggested by reviewer "Commandant Quacks-a-lot" ; article published from draft last 4 december.

Roland's (talk) 14:03, 9 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that Samar was the first Philippine Island sighted by Ferdinand Magellan during a Spanish expedition?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Lobster emoji

🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 (My "blotter") 12:14, 9 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that actor Jimmy Essex performed in various schools in London as part of his band "MITSOTU"?

• ALT1: ... that Jimmy Essex often gets asked if he is related to Joey Essex? Source: [21]
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Emirto de Lima
• Comment: Please let me know if I should suggest another hook

DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 06:15, 5 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• @DaniloDaysOfOurLives: Not a review (for now), but yes, new hooks are needed here. ALT0 is not interesting to a broad audience (I do not see the band name as "quirky" enough to be interesting by itself), and I don't imagine ALT1 as being interesting to readers outside the UK (is Joey Essex well-known in the UK? I've never heard of him before). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:29, 5 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• The nominator created the article several months ago and improved it to GA status on time. The article meets length and referencing requirements and no close paraphrasing was found. The provided review for the QPQ is a little short, but should be acceptable for DYK purposes. As mentioned earlier, neither hook meets the interestingness guidelines, so a new hook is needed here. In addition, while not a DYK issue, the lede seems too short and does not appear to properly summarize the article, so that may need to be expanded a bit. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:40, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Hi there! Is it cool for a third party to chip in with a different hook? Something like ... that actor Jimmy Essex auditioned with two other men to be a set of brothers on Hollyoaks? or ... that Jimmy Essex got along with his love interest's actress "like a house on fire?" EnjoyLightEnjoyTruth (talk) 13:00, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The first hook seems pretty niche and I don't think it would appeal to non-fans of Hollyoaks. The second option has more potential, but I'd like to hear about more hook options from DaniloDaysOfOurLives first. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:18, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, now that I think about it, the ALT probably doesn't work either because just simply getting along with cast members isn't unusual by itself. If anything, it would be more unusual or interesting if they didn't get along but still worked together anyway, or if that relationship went further (i.e. if it led to marriage). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:55, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the patriciate of Macerata in the Papal States lasted 360 years (1477–1816), the longest of any aristocratic regime in the March of Ancona?
• ALT1: ... that the patriciate of Macerata in the Papal States endured for 360 years (1477–1816) — the longest-lasting civic aristocracy in the March of Ancona?
• Source: The fact is supported in the article by the sentence:

"The longest-lasting aristocratic regime was in Macerata, where the patriciate endured for 360 years from its class closure in 1477 to the 1816 reform (excluding the Napoleonic period); it was followed by Fano, Fermo, Recanati and Ripatransone, all with durations exceeding three centuries."

• • Reviewed:

Sivigliano (talk) 20:12, 4 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Noting here, as I did on your talk page, that the article is not very accessible to non subject-matter experts at present. Also, the article looks like it might be a translation of this Italian Wikipedia article, per it:Discussione:Nobiltà civica nella Marca pontificia#Versione della voce su wiki eng, which may require attribution (ie. Help:Translation#Licensing). Staraction (talk | contribs) 22:27, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• I have now added the appropriate translation attribution on the article’s talk page using {{translated page}}, and I have also copy-edited the whole article to improve accessibility for non-specialist readers (shorter sentences, brief explanations of key terms). Further suggestions are of course very welcome. --Sivigliano (talk) 16:29, 5 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that some organizations in the U.S. took the murder of Matthew Rairdon in Maine as an example to draw attention to intimate partner violence and domestic violence in same-sex relationships?

• Reviewed: Snow Angel (manga)
• Comment: While I am aware that two of three organizations (especially Family Crisis Services) is local to Maine, I decided to go for "U.S." in hook due to the article from NCAVP. Feel free to disagree.

CoryGlee 01:47, 7 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that prior to being charged for murder in 1935, Oregon lumberjack Clarence Boggie had been convicted and pardoned twice for robbery?

• ALT1: ... that Clarence Boggie died less than seven months after being pardoned by the governor of Washington? Source: "Heart Attack Fatal to Pardoned Man in California". Spokane Daily Chronicle. Vol. 63, no. 244. Associated Press. 2 July 1949. p. 1. Retrieved 4 December 2025.
• Reviewed:
• Comment: Found out about Boggie while looking at some newspaper archives.

Nighfidelity (talk) 21:09, 5 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Thank you for creating this article. I'll review this. JTtheOG (talk) 23:16, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that a second hand digital projector and screen helped keep the Auto-Vue Drive-In Theatre from becoming a hops farm?

• • ALT1: ... that by 2013 the Auto-Vue Drive-In Theatre was Eastern Washington's last operating drive-in? Source: Ref12 Hansen "Colville's Auto Vue Drive-In falling victim to technology's high price": "Last year, the Auto Vue announced that 2013 would be its final season. After that, there will be no drive-ins in Eastern Washington."

ref 20 Callaghan "After 50 years, Eastern Washington's only drive-in theater changes hands" title and " Today, there are about 335 left, only five of which are in Washington. The only one left in Eastern Washington, Auto-Vue Drive-in Theatre, was recently bought by a couple, along with Colville’s other cinema, the Alpine Theatre."

• • ALT2: ... that the Auto-Vue Drive-In Theatre was one of 300 U.S. theaters to show Garth Brooks: A Drive-In Concert Experience during the 2020 lockdown? Source: Ref 15 Chareunsy "Brooks makes a drive-in date with fans". "The three nearest venues airing the concert are listed on ticketmaster...and Auto Vue Drive-In Theatere in Colville.."

Ref 16 Johnson "Garth Brooks' special drive-in concert is Saturday. Here's where you can watch it in Utah". "Last Friday, hundreds of thousands of fans waited online anywhere from two to four hours to get a ticket to a special drive-in concert the country star is performing for 300 drive-in theaters across North America this Saturday"

• • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Silver Lake (Washington)

Kevmin § 20:30, 5 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that Dwayne Johnson, Serena Williams, and Michael Jordan all advertised a brand of cereal in March 2023?
  • ALT1: ... that Surreal recently launched a line of cereal that came with a free vibrator in every pack?
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Charlie Mitchell (chef)
  • Comment: ALT0 is intended for April Fool's day.

Launchballer 09:09, 5 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• General eligibility:
• New enough:
• Long enough:
• Other problems:

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing:
• Neutral: - spotting a gap in the market for a cereal that was both healthy and tasty - said in wikivoice, this implies that there were no cereals before Surreal that were both healthy and tasty, and that theirs actually is both. I think it's better to say "the pair said that they founded the business because they thought that existing cereals were either tasty or healthy, but not both."
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
• Other problems: - It would help to note which country the cereal brand is from. and had run sales in Europe and marketing -> this fragment is IMHO a bit weird.

The brand launched with four lines; cocoa, cinnamon, frosted, and peanut butter. - I think you want a colon instead of a semicolon, and also I believe that "flavour" is better than "line". Line IMHO is better if, let's say, Mars Inc. describes its bars: the Bounty line, the Twix line, the Mars line, the Snickers line... Mars and Snickers are somewhat similar, but you can tell all are distinct bars. What's happening here is that they have the same cereal but with different flavours. Hook eligibility:

• Cited:
• Interesting:
• Other problems: - The vibrator one definitely wins it, and if approved, I will ask queue preparers to leave it aside for April Fools Day instead of ALT0. I mean, the title of the cited The Standard article, "Would you want a free vibrator with your box of cereal?" is not even a dialogue that would often appear in porn videos.

QPQ: Done.

Overall: There are a couple of minor things that need fixing, but the article is good. The ALT1 hook is gonna be a DYK killer. I just added a wikilink to vibrator just so the reader confirms that they are not perverts and we really mean the sex toy. After you fix these, it's good to go with ALT1 for April Fools, if you agree. Szmenderowiecki (talk · contribs) 16:50, 5 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think 'them spotting a gap' is attribution enough, but have adjusted 'line' and 'run sales'. I think ALT1 is more of a quirky (and fear that linking 'vibrator' would siphon off views - perhaps saying 'sex toy' instead?).--Launchballer 10:49, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't insist on the wikilink. I just thought it would be somewhat better for the reader. Vibrator is more catchy than a generic sex toy.

However, the way I read it, "spotting a gap" does not exactly sound as if it were their opinion. Or maybe I'll put it this way: even if it was a fact they recognised that there is no cereal that is both tasty and healthy (they might be right, but "tasty" is a very subjective descriptor), we definitely should not be using them as a source that theirs is just like they advertise because they obviously will say that.

Narutolovehinata5, buidhe, Epicgenius, what do you think? Is my concern legitimate or I'm being too strict? Szmenderowiecki (talk · contribs) 19:23, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Szmenderowiecki: Thanks for the ping. My first impression is that "spotting a gap" should more explicitly be attributed to the founders, especially if this is part of the reason they're citing as a reason for creating this brand (Jac Chetland and Kit Gammell saw a gap in the market at breakfast time). Interpreted liberally, one can see this as akin to a WP:DYKFIRST situation - this is like saying "this cereal brand was the first to cater to that market".

On another note, is there another way to phrase this besides "spotting a gap", e.g. "seeing demand"? The phrasing "spotting a gap" may be seen as too colloquial or informal. Epicgenius (talk) 20:49, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Gap in the market is standard business terminology, although I see that redirects to a section called "market opportunity". I've rewritten that sentence so it needs neither.--Launchballer 21:14, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The rewrite works for me, thank you.

The only thing left is the country where they founded it in the first sentence (UK) and we are good to go. Before this goes further, do you think that ALT1 should be reserved for April Fools or you don't care? Szmenderowiecki (talk · contribs) 22:09, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think ALT1 is more of a quirky.--Launchballer 22:36, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't this kind of the point though? Szmenderowiecki (talk · contribs) 00:46, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There's a slight difference. See Wikipedia:Recent additions/2025/April#2 April 2025.--Launchballer 01:13, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't get your point - everything's perfectly fine now and the article is good to go. IMHO definitely fits April Fools but not because we deliberately lowercase titles or something, as seems to be the case in most of the hooks, but because the sentence is so unusual that people would thing "that's a joke, right?". I just have to understand we are on the same page. Szmenderowiecki (talk · contribs) 06:16, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

My point is I don't think it's unusual enough.--Launchballer 09:32, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Well you could have told me that from the beginning. The original hook is not nearly as good. That sports stars advertise something is not something unusual - they do it all the time - and the process itself is not unusual because it's only a function of the ability to pay for their appearance. It's just another way of saying "they had a big advertisement budget", which is hardly inspiring. Or maybe they knew the sports celebrities somehow before opening the business, but the article doesn't say that.

On the other hand, I never heard of any food as having sex toys as freebies, and definitely not something you'd eat for breakfast. Bananas would be an obvious choice but they are perishable.

If you insist on the first option, I'll just leave it at promoters' discretion then. I can't change your mind for you but I strongly advise you consider that. Szmenderowiecki (talk · contribs) 10:25, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• A bit late to this discussion, but while I do think ALT0 is interesting (all figures are well-known enough worldwide), I actually think ALT1 is the more interesting hook. I do not think it violates the "no excessively gratuitous hooks" guideline either. I do not agree that ALT0 would make a good April Fools' hook because it is not misleading or quirky enough: celebrities endorsing a product by itself is not unusual, and especially not in the way it is written. I agree with the above that this works better as a regular hook, with ALT1. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:27, 8 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the title of an early Elton John song has been described as "something you might stumble upon in the darkest, dirtiest corner of the internet"?
  • ALT1: ... that a "truly filthy" version of Elton John's "Jamaica Jerk-Off" was released as part of a UK Top 40 EP in 1977?
  • ALT2: ... that Elton John's seventh album has been described as "a solid sixteen quality songs and also "Jamaica Jerk-Off""?
  • ALT3: ... that the song "Jamaica Jerk-Off" has been described as being "among the most controversial in [Elton] John's entire back catalogue"?
  • ALT4: ... that "Jamaica Jerk-Off" has been described as being "as ill-advised as any classic rock song has ever been"?
  • ALT5: ... that "Jamaica Jerk-Off" has been described as "the part of every Goodbye Yellow Brick Road discussion that everyone dreads"?
  • ALT6: ... that an early Elton John song has been described as "only marginally less horrifying" than its title?
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Killing of Lloyd Reed
  • Comment: There are tons of hooks in this one.

Launchballer 08:32, 5 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• New enough, long enough, I find all of them interesting (expect maybe ALT1), not seeing any in article problems, QPQ done, only issues is that I think the hooks need more links (like [Elton John] and [Goodbye Yellow Brick Road]) and what are these sourced to? Olliefant (she/her) 18:35, 5 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The article, because there is no requirement to give sources on the nomination. I avoid giving non-bolded links as they divert views. Also, italics are used for major works, not quote marks; see MOS:T.--Launchballer 10:25, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that one can sign a deed for an apartment and yet, due to weaknesses in Russian law, courts will often give back the "fraudulently" sold real estate but not require that the seller return the money? Source: Basically the whole premise of the article
• ALT1: ... that due to weaknesses in Russian law, signing the deed and paying money to the owner does not at all mean that at the end of the day, you will be with the apartment or the money? Source: as above
• ALT2 ... that criminals could scam buyers of their newly-acquired property by claiming in court that they themselves were scammed and so lost all money from the deal? Source: [22]
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Snow removal in Montreal
  • Comment: The sources are almost entirely in Russian, so it would be preferable for the reviewer to know the language.

Szmenderowiecki (talk · contribs) 05:26, 5 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that for Chama, Soulfly returned to its roots in tribal-influenced metal?

• ALT1: ... that physical copies of Chama come with a short story about the premise of the album? Source: Igor Cavalera, Chama CD booklet, Nuclear Blast Records, 2025
• Reviewed:
• Comment: I believe the first one is the stronger hook, as I can't any link online to directly cite the booklet in the album.

Hurstbergn (talk) 20:21, 9 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Not a review, but it's actually probably the other way around here: ALT1 is the stronger hook since ALT0 is reliant on knowing Soulfly to be interesting. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:41, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Iloilo City used to be the second most important city in the Philippines, next to Manila, and was widely known as the "Queen City of the South," a nickname now mostly associated with Cebu City?

• Reviewed:

Merd123 (talk) 11:15, 7 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that Piper Rockelle recently filmed TikTok videos with a collective of OnlyFans creators?
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Vitaly Nalivkin
  • Comment: A gentle hint, having been surprised to have several similar recent hooks declined on WP:DYKINT grounds; three out of 12 'highs' at Wikipedia:Did you know/Statistics/Monthly summary statistics/2025/Non-imaged being OnlyFans creators says this meets the 'intriguing' part of DYKINT's 'intriguing or unusual'.

Launchballer 01:20, 10 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• The article was moved to mainspace on December 7, which is within seven days of creation. It is new enough and long enough, and I did not find any issues with close paraphrasing or sourcing. A full QPQ has been completed. I do not think the hook is interesting: the "Person has done OnlyFans/has worked with an OnlyFans creator" angle has already been used multiple times in some form this year, including the hook for Bop House. Saying that it is interesting because "similar hooks did well" is an WP:OSE case, and I do not believe that simply mentioning OnlyFans in a hook automatically makes it meet DYKINT. Plenty of TikTok creators have collaborated with OnlyFans personalities, and I cannot see why this particular case is any more unusual or interesting than the others. Please propose a different angle. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:48, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Emily Sutton illustrated a book where a boy wishes on a shooting star to be "un-alone" causing four Christmas ornaments to come to life?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Dredge (video game)
• Comment: For Christmas Eve/Christmas Day

Thriley (talk) 19:50, 9 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that the WDF World Darts Championship final featured a 70-year-old and a 15-year-old in consecutive years?

• Reviewed:
• Comment: Unsure if this is worded correctly; 70-year-old reached final in 2024, 15-year-old reached final in 2025

Greenflipper (talk) 16:26, 8 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• The meaning is lost. The following is clearer, even if admittedly it is longer:

• ALT0a ... that while the 2024 WDF World Darts Championship final featured a 70-year-old, the 2025 final featured a 15-year-old?

The issue is that the first hook could be misinterpreted to mean that two finals in a row featured both a 70-year-old and a 15-year-old. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:21, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I agree, this one is better. Greenflipper (talk) 19:30, 9 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that the co-creator of the indie-animated web series Battle for Dream Island, Cary Huang, has an asteroid named after him?

• Reviewed:

Finnfrog99 (talk) 23:00, 7 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Comment: If there's a comma before "Cary Huang", there should be a comma after "Cary Huang", grammatically. Paintspot Infez (talk) 22:24, 8 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• The article is new, Finnfrog99, but I cannot accept it as long enough. Without the lead section, which repeats the rest of the content, it's only around 1400 characters long. I also think that the hook should be abouth the brothers if the article is about brothers. Surtsicna (talk) 00:48, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the molly species Poecilia koperi and P. wandae are not completely genetically separate, probably because they sometimes interbreed where their ranges overlap?

• ALT1: ... that the genetic lines of Poecilia koperi and P. wandae blur in areas where they meet, likely due to occasional hybridization?
• ALT2: ... that the molly species Poecilia koperi and P. wandae do not form fully distinct genetic groups, possibly a result of interbreeding along their shared habitats?
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Huang brothers, Template:Did you know nominations/Ann Dally

Surtsicna (talk) 01:11, 9 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• I take.--Launchballer 02:46, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Surtsicna: Long enough, new enough. Both QPQs are done and Earwig is nice and quiet. Big dislike on the single-sentence lead paragraphs but that's not a DYK issue. The problem you have is that I don't see how any of the hooks meet WP:DYKINT.--Launchballer 02:55, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I find each of them vastly more interesting than what we eventually landed on at Template:Did you know nominations/Baltimore classification, Launchballer. Surtsicna (talk) 09:36, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the precolonial Lozi Kingdom continued to exist as a non-sovereign monarchy and has argued that it is legally a sovereign state?

• Reviewed:

I'm pretty sure Lozi secessionism has technically been expanded by 5 times? Kowal2701 (talk) 23:00, 8 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• @Kowal2701: Lozi secessionism was 11976 characters on 14 November and is now 25252, according to WP:DYKCHECK. How are you arriving at 5x?--Launchballer 23:15, 8 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Launchballer, you're right, sorry I'd forgotten how much I removed. I'll remove Lozi secessionism from this and de-bold it Kowal2701 (talk) 23:25, 8 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that these days archaeologists are uncovering mass graves linked to Sri Lanka's Civil War?

• ALT1: ... that Sri Lanka’s mass graves span multiple eras, with sites linked both to the Sri Lanka's Civil War and to the 1987–1989 JVP insurrection? Source: https://groundviews.org/2023/06/25/unearthing-the-truth-about-sri-lankas-mass-graves/
• Reviewed:

ShoBDin (talk) 14:55, 8 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• This is my first review, so a second opinion would be appreciated, thanks.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing: - See below for WP:V issues. There's a Daily Mirror op-ed used, is there a better source available?
• Neutral:
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Earwig gives 10% (which is good), I spot-checked references 5, 17, and 8 (one instance each) on this revision. 5 does not support Throughout the conflicts, there were many reports of killings, secret detention centers, and military-controlled zones where civilians were last seen. Many of these places eventually later suspected of being site of mass grave. 17 says there were 335 individuals' remains found, not 346. 8 doesn't mention Rajapaska or the IPKF. Unless I'm being stupid, it's concerning that none of the ones I spot-checked supported the whole text. I'm not sure whether this ought to be a quickfail, but I'm willing to give you a chance to go through the article and tighten up the sourcing. Regarding the hook, I like the original one, though I'd change the wording to ...that up to the present-day archaeologists... Kowal2701 (talk) 22:48, 8 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Eratosthenes, the librarian of the Great Library of Alexandria, was nicknamed "Beta" ("Second"), because he wasn't considered the best at anything?

• ALT1: ... that Eratosthenes, the librarian of the Great Library of Alexandria, was a close friend of Archimedes, who dedicated his Method of Mechanical Theorems to him?

• Reviewed:

TouchedWithFire (talk) 12:29, 10 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that Andradjati spent most of his time in the Changi Airport during his tenure as Indonesia's deputy ambassador to Singapore? Source: "Menghabiskan Waktu Di Bandara Changi" [Spending Time at Changi Airport]. Tabloid Diplomasi. June 22, 2011. Archived from the original on 16 January 2018. Retrieved 7 December 2025. Diplomat yang selalu berupaya menyediakan waktu untuk jogging dan aerobic ini juga mempunyai pengalaman unik ketika penempatan di Singapura, dimana sebagian besar waktunya dihabiskan di bandara Changi. "The diplomat, who always tries to make time for jogging and aerobics, also had a unique experience during his deployment in Singapore, where most of his time was spent at Changi Airport."
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Spencer Cobb

Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 04:13, 10 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that Otago Farmers Market celebrated its birthday with a "long lunch" on a railway platform?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/No Toilet, No Bride

DrThneed (talk) 03:56, 10 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Article is new and long enough, well-referenced, and hook is interesting enough. QPQ done. AGF on offline sources. Thanks! KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 05:43, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Governor Anawrahta was pardoned by two different Ava kings for his allegiance to Hanthawaddy, only to die mysteriously shortly after the second pardon?

• • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tipat Halav

Hybernator (talk) 02:55, 10 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that Ellie Goulding tied Adele for the most number one albums by a British female artist in Higher Than Heaven?

• Reviewed:

Camilasdandelions (talk!) 02:53, 10 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that the extinct oak relative Fagopsis had wind carried fruit wedges (pictured)?

• ALT1: ... that the extinct chestnut relative Fagopsis (pictured) grew separate male and female flower heads? Source: https://www.nps.gov/flfo/learn/nature/fagopsis-longifolia-reconstruction.htm he fossils do show clearly that there were separate male and female flower heads, and those can be reconstructed in detail.
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Antirrhinum barrelieri
• Comment: Reviewed the Antirrhinum controversum article in the nomination

Kevmin § 02:47, 10 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that Erykah Badu recorded Mama's Gun at Electric Lady's Studio C, which was once Jimi Hendrix's apartment?

• ALT1: ... that Erykah Badu's main inspiration for Mama's Gun was her son with André 3000? Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2001/02/13/arts/unwrapping-a-new-era-erykah-badu-gets-on-with-the-business-of-creating-herself.html
• Reviewed:

Bronx Langford (talk) 23:15, 9 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that Edith Maryon's sculpture The Dance of Anitra (pictured) is one of only a few works by her known to survive in private hands?

• ALT1: ... that Edith Maryon's sculpture The Dance of Anitra (pictured) depicts Maud Allan as a desert tribeswoman? Source: Plenty of sources, but the same Dreweatts source sums it up concisely: "The depiction of Maud Allan in this bronze . . . [depicts] the seductive dance which emphasises the grace and beauty of Anitra, who is a daughter of a chieftain that is seduced by but cheats and steal from Peer Gynt."
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Billy Gallagher (businessman)

Usernameunique (talk) 07:06, 9 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• The article is new enough – don't be confused by the creation date, it was moved from the editor's sandbox on 9 December. Long enough. Both hooks are cited in the article, though ALT1 cites a different source there than it does here. The rest of the article appears to be well-sourced. I'm personally partial to the first hook.

The only reason I'm not immediately approving this is because a significant proportion of the article, at least two-thirds, is dedicated to extensive biographies of Edith Maryon, Maud Allan, and a description of the play Peer Gynt. The information on Maryon is longer than her own article! This isn't strictly a DYK issue, more a GA one, but DYK guidelines allow for more subjective issues. The information is good, well-sourced, and elegantly written, but too off-topic.

I would suggest significantly shortening these sections here and incorporating the additional information into their respective articles – the section on Maryon could be copied verbatim into the article on her. I'd have to see how the article looks once this is done to properly assess it. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 21:15, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review, Krisgabwoosh. I understand your point, and did wonder if someone might comment on the long background section, or point out that The information on Maryon is longer than her own article On the latter score, I think the answer is clear: It is not that the discussion here is too long, but that the discussion there is too short. She has two biographies, after all, and her article could be greatly expanded. (Take a look at her brother's article, which is far longer, for context.) As for the overall length of the background section, that's more of a judgment call. But it's worth remembering that four weighty topics coalesce around this sculpture: (1) Maryon, at the end of the conventional portion of her sculpture career, and transitioning into another, (2) Allan, conquering London, her statuettes sold at tourist shops, and the talk of town both to her face and behind her back, (3) Peer Gynt (the play), and the events that led to a girl in the desert dancing for the pleasure of a fraudulent prophet, and (4) Peer Gynt (the music), among the most famous of Edvard Grieg's works, and the music to which Allan-cum-Anitra danced. All that is to say, there's certainly a lot of context, but there's a lot to contextualize. --Usernameunique (talk) 21:42, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I understand your perspective Usernameunique, although I'd still argue that a lot of intricate detail does not relate to the statuette itself. Does half a paragraph about Maryon's siblings or about Allan's parents provide context to the topic? The extensive description of all five acts of Peer Gynt could easily be condensed to focus on Anitra's specific role in the story. If this were a GA review I would want these issues addressed, and I'd urge you to do so regardless. Though, admittedly, it is not a GA nom, I'm still a bit unsure about proceeding. I'm going to leave this on hold for a moment to allow other editors to chime in with their perspectives, or else I will pass it as is. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 22:15, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the Young MasterChef judge Poppy O'Toole once accidentally made an archaic term for a person's vulva go viral?
  • ALT1: ... that the Young MasterChef judge Poppy O'Toole was once dubbed the High Priestess of Potato?
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Poecilia koperi
  • Comment: I request that this runs on 17 January, her birthday.

Launchballer 03:31, 9 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Reviewing-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:24, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Both articles were moved from mainspace on 12/9 and are long enough. Both are sufficiently cited for DYK standards, although Poppy O'Toole would not pass WP:GA in this regard. Its WP:LEAD would need to either be fully cited or fully uncited. However both have citations in every paragraph. There are no pictures to assess. Both pass copyvio.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:02, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed birthdate.--Launchballer 02:07, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for fixing the ref. Remember either all facts in the LEAD are either all cited directly inline in the LEAD or all cited in the main body that they summarize. One or the other.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:23, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• How was she a chef for someone who died over 80 years before she was born.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:02, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Different JPMorgan.--Launchballer 02:07, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thx for fixing the link.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:15, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Both articles are presented in an encyclopedic tone.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:12, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• I don't feel the sources support "viral". It might even be hard to claim "trending". All I see was a controversy. It is not clear to me what you are claiming went viral. this is not a viral post.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:04, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I swapped out those sources a lot; the "trending" bit was in [23] (archive.ph), which I've just readded. As I understand it, 'viral' and 'trending' are interchangeable.--Launchballer 03:17, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• I can support ALT1 as interesting and properly presented and cited.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:15, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• QPQs done.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:22, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• I could pass ALT1 now or we could further discuss the other hook.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:22, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that a video showing preparations for a campaign speech for mayor of Kharkiv made it into the top 10 of YouTube's most watched videos of the day? Source: http://itnews.com.ua/news/35233-quotcomedy-clubquot-s-dobkinym-i-kernesom-bet-rekordy-po-prosmotram-v-internete
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/China-Pakistan Free Trade Agreement
  • Comment: Almost all sources in Russian and Ukrainian, so the reviewer should preferably know both languages.

Szmenderowiecki (talk · contribs) 02:27, 10 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

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