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Gini kah?
[edit]tes Charlottelia (talk) 13:52, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
- Yep Udaradingin (talk) 13:53, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
- cara nambahin foto gitu biar ga kena copyright gimana tuh? kemarin foto Argentin kena copyright wkwkwk Charlottelia (talk) 13:57, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
- Yaaa, gimana ya. Kalo soal upload foto, ketentuan di Wiki itu emang ketat sih sebenernya. Menurut kebijakannya, foto-foto yang diupload harus di ranah publik (public domain) atau kalo enggak berlisensi bebas (yang punya fotonya ngizinin siapa aja buat nge-upload ulang), jadi gak boleh asal upload. Buat guide:
- - Penjelasan panjang
- - Penjelasan pendek
- Udaradingin (talk) 14:08, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
- Itu kalo di Wikimedia Commons. Ada juga peraturan khusus yang cuma bisa dipake di Wikipedia, itu fair use (penggunaan wajar). Itu cuman bisa dipake di satu artikel doang dan gak bisa dipake di artikel manapun. Boleh diliat Udaradingin (talk) 14:15, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
- owalahh gituu, semisal kalo argetin mau dikasih foto lagi bisakah? Charlottelia (talk) 14:53, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
- Bisa kokk asal foto barunya ngikutin ketentuannya. Contohnya, foto yang dipake di page Oguri Cap itu foto sendiri, atau dari yang lain foto TM Opera O yang statusnya penggunaan bebas tapi ber-hak cipta (dari foto orang lain). Udaradingin (talk) 15:15, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
- kenapa ga kamu aja yang nambahin wkwkwkwk, ga paham aku foto yang bebas copyright di wiki y
- kayak gimana Charlottelia (talk) 15:19, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
- Wkwkwk tar aja deh minta izin dulu ke yang punya (Sarga) Udaradingin (talk) 16:25, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
- soal Mystere, aku udah infoin ke sarga juga, kebetulan ada buktinya Charlottelia (talk) 21:04, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
- btw tau tanggal matinya Djohar manik? kalo tahunnya tahu aku Charlottelia (talk) 21:21, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nah, kalo itu gak tahu ya. Tapi kemungkinan sekitar bulan Agustus/September. Dari video sholawatan di Tombo Ati Stable.
- Kebetulan aku juga lagi bikin race record-nya Djohar manik, tapi masih WIP. Udaradingin (talk) 00:16, 14 October 2025 (UTC)
- kalo draft ga bisa diakses orang lain kah? Charlottelia (talk) 00:26, 14 October 2025 (UTC)
- Kayaknya bisa sih Udaradingin (talk) 00:27, 14 October 2025 (UTC)
- iyakah? terus itu bukannya dia memang 37 kali yah? bukan 35 Charlottelia (talk) 00:41, 14 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nemu di salah satu komen youtube katanya begini:
- "Djohar manik 2013-2019
- 41 races
- 35 win
- 4 second place
- 2 unplaced
- Triple crown Indonesia 2014
Star of stars Indonesia 2200m (2015, 2017, 2018)
Super sprint Indonesia 1300m (2014, 2016)
Medali emas PON Jabar 2016 (A 1300m)" - Perlu crosscheck lagi sihUdaradingin (talk) 01:53, 14 October 2025 (UTC)
- kalau dari wawancara sama owner stablenya bilang menang nya 37 kali, di yt sarga ada Charlottelia (talk) 02:18, 14 October 2025 (UTC)
- Iya sihh, udah nonton juga. Paling crosscheck crosscheck aja sih Udaradingin (talk) 02:44, 14 October 2025 (UTC)
- coba cek draft ku bisa di edit orang lain apa engga Charlottelia (talk) 03:20, 14 October 2025 (UTC)
- Bisaa bisa Udaradingin (talk) 08:04, 14 October 2025 (UTC)
- okeyyy Charlottelia (talk) 08:44, 14 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Udaradingin makasih banget udah dibantuin,.walaupun ntah di accnya kapan wkwkwkwk Charlottelia (talk) 05:25, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- Wkwk perjalanan kita masih panjang Udaradingin (talk) 05:44, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- iya lagi, bikin baru aja kepanjangan ini udahan wkwkwk Charlottelia (talk) 09:01, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- Wkwk perjalanan kita masih panjang Udaradingin (talk) 05:44, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- Bisaa bisa Udaradingin (talk) 08:04, 14 October 2025 (UTC)
- coba cek draft ku bisa di edit orang lain apa engga Charlottelia (talk) 03:20, 14 October 2025 (UTC)
- Iya sihh, udah nonton juga. Paling crosscheck crosscheck aja sih Udaradingin (talk) 02:44, 14 October 2025 (UTC)
- kalau dari wawancara sama owner stablenya bilang menang nya 37 kali, di yt sarga ada Charlottelia (talk) 02:18, 14 October 2025 (UTC)
- iyakah? terus itu bukannya dia memang 37 kali yah? bukan 35 Charlottelia (talk) 00:41, 14 October 2025 (UTC)
- Kayaknya bisa sih Udaradingin (talk) 00:27, 14 October 2025 (UTC)
- kalo draft ga bisa diakses orang lain kah? Charlottelia (talk) 00:26, 14 October 2025 (UTC)
- btw tau tanggal matinya Djohar manik? kalo tahunnya tahu aku Charlottelia (talk) 21:21, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
- soal Mystere, aku udah infoin ke sarga juga, kebetulan ada buktinya Charlottelia (talk) 21:04, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
- Wkwkwk tar aja deh minta izin dulu ke yang punya (Sarga) Udaradingin (talk) 16:25, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
- Bisa kokk asal foto barunya ngikutin ketentuannya. Contohnya, foto yang dipake di page Oguri Cap itu foto sendiri, atau dari yang lain foto TM Opera O yang statusnya penggunaan bebas tapi ber-hak cipta (dari foto orang lain). Udaradingin (talk) 15:15, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
- owalahh gituu, semisal kalo argetin mau dikasih foto lagi bisakah? Charlottelia (talk) 14:53, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
- Itu kalo di Wikimedia Commons. Ada juga peraturan khusus yang cuma bisa dipake di Wikipedia, itu fair use (penggunaan wajar). Itu cuman bisa dipake di satu artikel doang dan gak bisa dipake di artikel manapun. Boleh diliat Udaradingin (talk) 14:15, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
- cara nambahin foto gitu biar ga kena copyright gimana tuh? kemarin foto Argentin kena copyright wkwkwk Charlottelia (talk) 13:57, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
Talk part 2
[edit]Pindah sini, yang itu udah kepanjangan wkwkwk Charlottelia (talk) 09:34, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
Indonesian horseracing
[edit]Hello.
I see you're active in Indonesian horseracing topic. May I ask, where do you get your sources for horse careers? Is it just from race replay videos? I'm trying to write an article about Princess Gavi, but I'm stuck when trying to find sources at internet (not many media covered her race :(.). Thanks, Rinai Natsumi (talk) 14:09, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hai @Rinai Natsumi can you use Indonesia language? if you can communication can be smoother. Anyway you can check this link to create the pedigree of Princess Gavi, also you can check on YouTube TAPAL KUDA 69 or Sarga. Co
- https://studbook.or.id/princess-gavi Charlottelia (talk) 15:07, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hi! @Rinai Natsumi
- Most of the sources I’ve found are either from YouTube or, if I’m lucky, from online news websites. As you can see, the official documentation of horse racing in Indonesia is, to my knowledge, very poor. In some cases, the results don’t appear at all on the official studbook website.
- Milord's racing form is the easiest one to trace, since he was relatively well-documented and his career has already been compiled into a single video available on YouTube. Here are some channel recommendations for finding Indonesian horseracing videos:
- Sarga. Co (active; from 2023 -)
- BAHARNA TV (active, but not frequent; from ~2013 -; perfect for finding 2010-era horses)
- Ersan Ramadhan (defunct; 2013 - 2017; perfect for finding 2010-era horses)
- TAPAL KUDA 69 (active)
- Pordasi Dki (defunct; 2013 - Triple Crown Series 1 2020; perfect for finding 2010-era horses)
- the stable's youtube channel (e.g. Bendang Stable or Aragon Stable Indonesia)
- Any other channels as long as it's reliable
- Other than that, I suggest checking online news outlets like TribunSport, if they’ve written any related articles. I’m currently working on a project about Djohar Manik's racing form in collaboration with fellow Wikipedia editor. And let me tell you, it's beenpainstakingly excrutiating. Good luck! Udaradingin (talk) 15:09, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- Though I suppose if she was foaled in 2021, she probably debuted on the same year as King Argentin (2023). You can check videos on YT for late 2023 horseracing videos (Kejurnas Series 2, Ketum PP Pordasi) for the info. Udaradingin (talk) 15:11, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- Maybe this will help you a little
- Pertiwi Cup 2025
- 1.600 M
- https://youtube/cWHzWdBJ52c?si=LC1W_j-RU_NXodOG
- Indonesia Derby 2025
- 2.000 M
- Finish no 2
- https://youtube/Xg6f8aAjavc?si=r8VvnGXEmT7mDjHG
- Kelas 3 Tahun Remaja DIV I
- 1.400 M
- https://www.youtubecom/live/CKdBfJc4Etw?si=mSVBTgPCGwBDKbLZ
- Princess Gavi race at 4:23:30
- Kelas 2 Tahun Pemula C/D Kejurnas Indonesia Derby 2024
- 1.200 M
- https://youtube/N13dxCqGD98?si=eZwF4jgpPtfklKr7
- She finishes without jockey, so her victory is not valid
- Penyisihan Indonesia Derby 2025 - Kelas 3 Tahun Derby Heat II
- 2.000 M
- https://youtube/xZ4PN4rFD2Y?si=BwBu5tWIW7ovf9M2
- Princess Gavi race at 26:57
Charlottelia (talk) 15:17, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- I've helped you a little bit @Rinai Natsumi (ʘᴗʘ✿)
- You can check your Princess Gavi draft. Charlottelia (talk) 16:18, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Charlottelia, @Udaradingin: Ok, ok, makasih bantuannya. Nanti coba ku riset lagi. Rinai Natsumi (talk) 01:49, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
- okeyy, btw udah kutanyain ke Admin Sarga mereka punya data race record kuda atau engga, siapa tau kalo ada nanti kutanyain punya datanya princess gavi atau engga Charlottelia (talk) 02:10, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
- Kalau bisa sekalian tanyain juga yang Djohar Manik ya, lagi rada struggling nih. Udaradingin (talk) 02:25, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
- sayang pihak sarganya engga punya data racenya, ada yang tahu sosmed nya PORDASI kah? admin sarganya nyaranin buat nanya langsung ke pihak PORDASInya Charlottelia (talk) 03:43, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Charlottelia: IG-nya Pordasi aktif tuh (@pordasi.id), terakhir ngepos 5 hari yang lalu. Rinai Natsumi (talk) 04:46, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
- okeyy, nanti coba kutanyain habis selesai sekolah wkwkwk Charlottelia (talk) 05:56, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Charlottelia: IG-nya Pordasi aktif tuh (@pordasi.id), terakhir ngepos 5 hari yang lalu. Rinai Natsumi (talk) 04:46, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
- sayang pihak sarganya engga punya data racenya, ada yang tahu sosmed nya PORDASI kah? admin sarganya nyaranin buat nanya langsung ke pihak PORDASInya Charlottelia (talk) 03:43, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
- Kalau bisa sekalian tanyain juga yang Djohar Manik ya, lagi rada struggling nih. Udaradingin (talk) 02:25, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
- okeyy, btw udah kutanyain ke Admin Sarga mereka punya data race record kuda atau engga, siapa tau kalo ada nanti kutanyain punya datanya princess gavi atau engga Charlottelia (talk) 02:10, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Charlottelia, @Udaradingin: Ok, ok, makasih bantuannya. Nanti coba ku riset lagi. Rinai Natsumi (talk) 01:49, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
- Segini cukup kali ya? Udah ku submit sih, moga cepet di-acc. Rinai Natsumi (talk) 14:29, 17 October 2025 (UTC)
- gapapa gitu ajaa, doain juga Draft Djohar Manik cepet di acc Charlottelia (talk) 01:56, 18 October 2025 (UTC)