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M. Billoo 16:06, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/July 1: I wonder why you removed the centenary of Satie's death. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:27, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• @Gerda Arendt: Erik Satie was featured on OTD on May 17, 2025. OTD tries not to have the same article featured multiple times in a year. Z1720 (talk) 18:15, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  I prefer birthdays, but had I known how strictly that it is handled, I would have gone for the centenary. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:48, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • I also prefer birthdays, and its no big deal. This will allow Rhoda Delaval to shine even brighter. Z1720 (talk) 22:26, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    I asked on classical music if we could make Satie a GA, short answer "no", and planned to make a composition GA, but the one who made the best step forward was blocked ... - in a way it matches Satie, sadly. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:45, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    • @Gerda Arendt: It might be too late to get it to GA status, for his birthday, but there is nothing stopping you from making improvements. I think Tim's reluctance about it is other editors adding POV cruft: if you make a good faith effort to add your own improvements, maybe you and Tim can work together to get it promoted. Z1720 (talk) 22:49, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

story · music · places

I wish that was possible (and don't want to go into details of why I don't see it coming again). All I wanted to explain is: I went for mentioning him on his centenary day on DYK, but it didn't work, on two levels. Only then, frustrated already, did I place him on OTD. - I don't know if you followed that the same thing happening for Easter: GA and DYK nom Easter Oratorio for the 300th anniversary of the music, not successful in time (took seven more weeks), OTD nom, not successful because there's a rule (that it has to be the calendar date, not "Easter"). - I should stick with RD, right now Gertrud Leutenegger on the Main page, and there were only few days without highlighting a great person, for a sad reason but better than not at all. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:57, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

While you are of course invited to check out my recommendations any day, today offers unusually a great writer of novels, music with light and a place with exquisite food. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:44, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The third round of the 2025 WikiCup ended on 28 June. This round was again competitive, with three contestants scoring more than 1,000 round points:

• BeanieFan11 (submissions) with 1,314 round points, mostly from articles about athletes and politicians, including 20 good articles and 48 did you know articles
• Gog the Mild (submissions) with 1,197 round points, mostly from military history articles, including 9 featured topic articles, two featured articles, and four good articles
• Sammi Brie (submissions) with 1,055 round points, mostly from television station articles, including 27 good articles and 9 good topic articles

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Remember that any content promoted after 28 June but before the start of Round 4 can be claimed in Round 4. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, feel free to review one of the nominations listed on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:50, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,I’d like to raise some concerns regarding the articles Patu Keswani and Lemon Tree Hotels. The Patu Keswani article appears promotional in tone, lacks strong independent reliable sources, and fails to establish clear notability per Wikipedia guidelines. The page was originally created by User:Vivekkhanna123456, who appears to be a likely sockpuppet, raising red flags about possible conflict of interest or undisclosed paid editing. The associated article Lemon Tree Hotels, a company owned by Patu Keswani, also reads like a paid piece, with similar promotional language and sparse independent sourcing. I recommend a review for both articles regarding neutrality, notability, and sourcing, and to investigate the editing history for potential sockpuppetry or undisclosed affiliations. These may be suitable for tagging, cleanup, or even AfD (Articles for Deletion), depending on further review. Thanks for your time! AliveNull (talk) 18:47, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@AliveNull: Thanks for bringing up your concerns. I suggest that you bring these concerns to the appropriate noticeboards, as you will be able to explain the situation better than me. If you think this editor is a sockpuppet that is abusing our Sockpuppet policy, please report them to WP:SPI. If the concerns are COI related, please post on WP:COIN. Also, feel free to WP:BEBOLD and fix the promotional language you see in the article. If there's an article that would not pass Wikipedia's general notability guidelines, please WP:PROD them or send them to WP:AfD. Let me know if you have any questions and happy editing. Z1720 (talk) 18:51, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rameshwarlall_Daulatram_Nopany

Hi Admin, can you verify if am wrong here for AFD submission for this article Rameshwarlall_Daulatram_Nopany AliveNull (talk) 18:55, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• @AliveNull: It looks like the article had been previously PRODded in 2022, so this might get removed. If it does, and you still think this person doesn't meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines, please nominate it for AfD. You will have to explain why the article's references do not establish notability for this person. Z1720 (talk) 18:58, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Kindly move Draft:Bhupalsagar to mainspace. It’s a village in Rajasthan and people should be able to find information about it here. Requesting a move. Thanks! AliveNull (talk) AliveNull (talk) 19:06, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• @AliveNull: The article has been submitted for approval. Another editor will evaluate it and determine if it should go to the mainspace. Please be patient. Z1720 (talk) 19:09, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Thanks, editor had Moved to mainspace. AliveNull (talk) 19:19, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I will check on the unused sources and move them to further reading as needed. One caught my eye in particular because it seems to me to be one that I had added. Donner60 (talk) 22:42, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• @Z1720: I have removed eight of the references in the bibliography as tangential, or in a few instances, duplicative, and moved one to further reading. Donner60 (talk) 01:56, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I have nominated India for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. JDiala (talk) 08:24, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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We have enough rerun TFAs for September at this point. Thanks for your help, as always. Wehwalt (talk) 12:54, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. So, I noticed that of the ice hockey articles you put for reassessment, you place a notice on the talk page with your concerns. The article's watchers are retired, so if there are other articles in ice hockey that need an update, please let me or the project know. Conyo14 (talk) 02:39, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Conyo14: Thanks for reaching out. I am reviewing all good articles and posting talk page messages to the ones that are furthest from the GA criteria. It is quite difficult to remember who to ping for each category, and some Wikiprojects don't like notices on their talk pages. Pinging and posting on Wikiproject talk pages takes time, and I don't want to do extra work if it will amount to nothing.

If interested in fixing up ice hockey articles (or any group of articles) I recommend installing User:Phlsph7/ListUnreferencedParagraphs.js, then in the list paste the list of hockey GAs. This script will quickly review the articles for uncited text and other banners. Then, User:Phlsph7/HighlightUnreferencedPassages.js will highlight uncited text in an individual article. You can also watchlist articles that you are interested in so that your watchlist will alert you if someone posts on the article's talk page. I hope this helps articles improve. Z1720 (talk) 03:13, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That's fair. I guess was moreso interested in the articles you've already stated on the talk page. Conyo14 (talk) 05:13, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Conyo14: I looked at my list of noticed articles (I keep it off-wiki) and don't have any hockey articles on it. Z1720 (talk) 13:32, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you :) Conyo14 (talk) 16:06, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Conyo14: Following up with this: 2007–08 Pittsburgh Penguins season is listed at WP:SWEEPS2023. I don't think its in bad shape, but there are some uncited statements and paragraphs. Would you be willing to take a look? Let me know if you need any help. Z1720 (talk) 17:25, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Only a couple unsourced statements. I can fix those, along with other grammatical issues. Conyo14 (talk) 17:56, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Conyo14: You might be interested that I recently noticed Calgary Flames, a featured article. Z1720 (talk) 04:34, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sure you meant to put more there. Yes I can do a re-look at that one too. I've also been meaning to do the season article above, but my work VPN blocks the editor for a very dumb reason. When i return from my vacation I'll actually get to work on it again. Conyo14 (talk) 05:05, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

story · music · places

Thank you for delivering DYK credit about two Ukrainian topics on my talk. I made a mistake: when I added the composer to the nom for the opera, I failed to add credits also, - same people. Is there a way to fix that? I wouldn't make much difference for me, but for the creator, it would double the number of DYK credits ;) -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:07, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• @Gerda Arendt: I'm not sure if the credits will count if applied retroactively. That might be a question for WT:DYK. Z1720 (talk) 14:51, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Thank you but nevermind if it's complicated. I avoid that page whenever possible. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:13, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Béatrice Uria-Monzon and her story, Julia Hagen and her no story --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:21, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  On Bach's day of death, I decorated my user pages in memory of his music, and my story ends on "peace". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:17, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey there! I'm curious, what's your approach to finding articles to edit? What does most of your editing consist of? --ApokolipsNow1971 (talk) 16:41, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@ApokolipsNow1971: Hi, I usually edit articles where I have an interest, and keep editing an article until it doesn't interest me. I find articles by finding sources and books that might have information to add to the article. The articles I am most proud of are William Lyon Mackenzie, Types Riot and Flight Pattern. I also edit articles that have a good article designation but might not meet the GA criteria anymore. Z1720 (talk) 19:33, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Z1720, I pinged you before to see what you thought of my proposals at Talk:Todd Manning#Reception and impact of Todd Manning. I'm anxious to hear what you think, so I'm resorting to your talk page now! ;) Thanks, much appreciated. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 19:05, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Figureskatingfan: Sorry I didn't respond earlier. I got busy in real life, and now I'm on vacation with limited Internet access. I'll try to take a look when I get back. If I don't post anything in a week from this message, please ping me again. Z1720 (talk) 06:05, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, I was just wondering. Have a great vacation, and talk to you when you get back. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 17:14, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Came across WT:Good article nominations#Flawed process through today's inaugural Good Article Gazette and really dismayed by the attacks on your work. While a clear majority have come to your defense, I just want to send some appreciation for your GAR noms. I have never found your nominations to be lacking, and more importantly, you have always been receptive to the possibility that the nominated articles may require less changing than initially expected. With WP:Village pump (proposals)#RFC: Adding featured and good content status to the tagline showing significant community contempt for GAs as ignoring article deterioration, your work is all the more important to making the GA topicon worth something.

ViridianPenguin🐧 (💬) 16:22, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• @ViridianPenguin: Love the goat! I think I am following community consensus on how GAR should be run, and I hope I am receptive to community feedback (that isn't a personal attack). I would love for others to comment on how the GAR can be improved (but I might disagree with their comments, and explain why!) and hope others will nominate and maintain GAs more frequently than before (though we are all volunteers). I read through the village pump proposal several days or weeks after it opened, and will take a read through it again soon: hopefully it will generate some ideas on how to improve the process even more. Z1720 (talk) 16:54, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Personally, I find the listing at WP:GAR, subject-sorted listing at WP:GAN, pre-nomination talk page thread, nomination talk page thread, and notifications to relevant WikiProjects sufficient to find GARs within my interest/knowledge, but there's always the possibility for improvement! ViridianPenguin🐧 (💬) 16:58, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• @ViridianPenguin: I like the topic listing for GARs at GAN, too. I'm less thrilled with GAR sorting chronologically, but find it useful to determine which articles are nearing the one-month mark to be delisted. I wish there was a better culture on Wikipedia to maintain status articles: I think there is a sense of "done" editors experience when an article achieves a status, which prevents editors from returning to these articles to maintain them (which I also experience) and avoids GARs. I do not have ideas on how to prevent this "done" mentality. Z1720 (talk) 17:09, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  I think that WP:WikiCup scoring communicates what the community values, and the fact that we award nothing to participation in GAR/FAR contributes to that "done" mentality. Wikipedia talk:WikiCup/Scoring#Good Article reassessments had Airship and Epicgenius attribute the current scoring to the difficulty of quantifying participation in GAR and the frequency of delisting, but I dispute that editors cannot be trusted to only self-award points when deserved for significant improvement that keeps the article's status. After all, Wikipedia:WikiCup/Scoring#Featured article candidate reviews & Featured list candidate reviews notes that points are only awarded in that category when the FAC/FLC review is high-quality.

  I think that awarding 20 points to significant GAR/FAR work makes sense because that's a little over half the points of a new GA and one tenth of a new FA. The community could workshop an appropriate value through further discussion though, perhaps giving distinct values to GAR and FAR work. However, as my work at legal history of cannabis in the United States is only my second GAR, I am not yet ready to propose that, but I would happily offer my support for such a change if you want to kick that off. ViridianPenguin🐧 (💬) 17:27, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  @ViridianPenguin: Not sure if a proposal like that would be well received coming from me: I probably benefit the most from that addition! One aspect to consider is the quality of the GAR/FAR. If I nominate an article with the reason cited as "uncited statements" and no one else comments, I do not think I deserve 20 points. I do not think I comment enough on most GARs to deserve 20 points, as I usually only check a few of the GA criteria before making my declaration. If GAR/FAR was added, the amount of comments in the review or edits to the article required to quality for points would need to be defined. Z1720 (talk) 17:39, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  In my mind, the 20pts would only go to those doing significant editing of the article, rather than those giving guidance in the GAR nomination, but I recognize that this is imperfect, so I will work on some more GARs/FARs before I am ready to propose it. For example, WP:Featured article review/Bæddel and bædling/archive1 currently has Generalissima subjecting her article writing to a second round of FA review to make further improvements in the same year that it was promoted to FA. Should she get another 20pts if her second round of editing has it kept? Perhaps these edge cases should merely be dealt with as they arise as perfect is the enemy of good. ViridianPenguin🐧 (💬) 17:51, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  @ViridianPenguin: I like giving points to editors who make significant improvements to an article while it is at FAR/GAR. Z1720 (talk) 18:05, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! A while back you opened a GAR on that article, which was later delisted, citing 'uncited statements, including entire paragraphs'. I spent some time to (try) to improve the article with some various sources and added some missing content. I'm curious if it would bring it back to GA standard, so I'm asking for what you think. Thanks! (Article at 1998–99 Manchester United F.C. season) Alpha Beta Delta Lambda (talk) 21:22, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• @Alpha Beta Delta Lambda: I added a citation needed tag to the article. I think some of the one-or-two sentence paragraphs in "Formation of Shareholders United" can be better formatted or merged together. Once these are resolved, I think this is ready for a GAN. Z1720 (talk) 21:30, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Thanks! I think I've fixed those problems now; I'll nominate it a bit later. Alpha Beta Delta Lambda (talk) 22:04, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Z1720. Encoded suggested I reach out for assistance from editors willing to review COI requests. I see you've worked on many Wikipedia articles; I would appreciate your assistance reinstating several portions of the Energy Capital Partners Acquisitions section. This material is all supported by reliable sources; Encoded, who originally added that content, isn't available to help at this time, but did indicate that it was worth a discussion. Thank you for your time and help, Californiabri19 (talk) 18:38, 12 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hey. I have been reviewing and enhancing diving cylinder that you nominated for good article reassessment. I believe that with the restructuring and revisions in the last month, the article is again good for GA. I closed the reassessment. Cheers. Fred Hsu (talk) 03:26, 18 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Happy adminship anniversary! Hi Z1720! On behalf of the Birthday Committee, I'd like to wish you a very happy anniversary of your successful request for adminship. Enjoy this special day! DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 03:07, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The fourth round of the 2025 WikiCup ended on 29 August. The penultimate round saw three contestants score more than 800 points:

• BeanieFan11 (submissions) with 1,175 round points, mainly from sports-related articles, including 17 good articles, 27 did you know articles, and 9 in the news articles
• Arconning (submissions) with 1,090 round points, mainly from articles about athletes and politicians, including a featured article on Philippines at the 1924 Summer Olympics, 9 good articles, 28 did you know articles, and a wide assortment of featured and good article reviews
• AirshipJungleman29 (submissions) with 854 round points, mostly from a high-scoring featured article on the Indian leader Rani of Jhansi and two good articles, in addition to 13 featured and good article reviews

Everyone who competed in Round 4 will advance to Round 5 unless they have withdrawn. This table shows all competitors who have received tournament points so far, while the full scores for Round 4 can be seen here. During this round, contestants have claimed 9 featured articles, 12 featured lists, 98 good articles, 9 good topic articles, more than 150 reviews, nearly 100 did you know articles, and 18 in the news articles.

In advance of the fifth and final round, the judges would like to thank every contestant for their hard work. As a reminder, any content promoted after 29 August but before the start of Round 5 can be claimed in Round 5. In addition, note that Round 5 will end on 31 October at 23:59 UTC. Awards at the end of Round 5 will be distributed based on who has the most tournament points over all five rounds, and special awards will be distributed based on high performance in particular areas of content creation (e.g., most featured articles in a single round).

Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, feel free to review one of the nominations listed on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges – Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs), Epicgenius (talk · contribs), Frostly (talk · contribs), Guerillero (talk · contribs) and Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) – are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck!

If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:48, 30 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Z1720, I was wondering if you would be able to initiate a new circle considering that 5 articles are in the pool. Thanks! ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 07:41, 5 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Bunnypranav: I saw the number of noms on GARC, but haven't had time to set up a circle. If there are still lots of noms when I do have time I will set it up. If it is not in a week, please ping me. Z1720 (talk) 15:21, 5 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oh alright. Thanks! ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 16:26, 5 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Z1720, please if you have time, take a look at Wikipedia:Peer review/Independence Day (Nigeria)/archive1 and your comments would be greatly appreciated (after looking at the article itself). Thank you. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 22:08, 5 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Vanderwaalforces: I cannot promise that I have time to review, but I will try. Z1720 (talk) 17:55, 6 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• An RfC is open on whether use of emojis with no encyclopedic value in mainspace and draftspace (e.g., at the start of paragraphs or in place of bullet points) should be added as a criterion under G15.

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I really do not appreciate you leave it until midnight UTC to screw things up so that I cannot fix it, there are a lot of people on "eligible" died on this day and you chose a third birthday instead. Ikhouvanjou14 (talk) 01:09, 12 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• @Ikhouvanjou14: No, the edit did not "screw things up": it replaced an article that ran in at OTD in 2024 with an article that has never been on the Main Page. Having the same number of birth and deaths is not a requirement at OTD. If you would like it to be a requirement, please open a discussion at WT:OTD. Z1720 (talk) 14:18, 12 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello Z1720, I have a question about citations in regards to airline fleets. I have been currently editing the Qantaslink page and am unsure about how to provide effective citations for fleet in service. Planespotters.net is not an approved source so I was linking Flightradar24 with the newest aircrafts registration. As airline fleets change quickly there are no articles that show current of up to date fleet numbers that I could cite. I have never had a problem with this before on any airline page, always using Flightradar24's aircraft flight data but recent edits have been reverted and labelled WP:SYNTH. Not sure how to go forward and efficiently cite these changes and information under Wikipedias guidelines. Thanks, Jay330 --Jay330 (talk) 00:25, 20 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Jay330: Thanks for your question. Can you give an example of an article where the SYNTH concerns happened, so I can take a closer look? Z1720 (talk) 00:27, 20 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=QantasLink&action=history Jay330 (talk) 02:17, 20 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• @Jay330: I think the other user is correct: the source only verifies that the plane is used by an airline. It doesn't verify that there are seven aircraft in the airline, so a different source will need to be found. Z1720 (talk) 02:19, 20 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  In terms of aviation page citations broadly moving forward, only Flightradar24 & planespotters.net (not an approved source) provide current up to date fleet information (rest are either behind a pay wall or outdated). There are articles that detail the initial aircraft orders but nothing as the aircraft are slowly introduced to airline fleets. On prior edits due to this issue most airline pages would not usually cite these changes (fleet data is often also segmented on a few websites as well). In my opinion flightradar24[1] is the best choice as this shows all registrations in a fleet and when you click on each aircraft you can see it's flight activity and whether the aircraft is active. This is how I got the information for the previous edits, just wanting a second opinion. Thanks Jay330 (talk) 05:28, 20 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• @Jay330: The link that you have in the above paragraph is able to verify how many aircraft are in the QantasLink fleet, so that is what it is able to verify. I think clicking through each of the aircraft to see if it is active is not necessary, as it is still in the aircraft's fleet and might be too detailed for a Wikipedia article. Wikipedia also doesn't want to have to constantly update an article as aircraft become active or unactive. It might be better just to cite the fleet number and not check to see if the plane is active or not. Z1720 (talk) 13:43, 20 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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