| This page has an administrative backlog that requires the attention of willing administrators. This notice will be automatically removed by AnomieBOT (talk) when the backlog is cleared. |
| Skip to current discussions · |
Categories for discussion (CfD) is the central venue for discussing specific proposals to delete, merge, rename, or split categories and stub types in accordance with the guidelines for categorization, category naming, and stub articles.
For detailed instructions about using CfD, see § How to nominate a category for discussion below. Briefly, nominations are handled through one of two processes:
- Speedy renaming and merging, for uncontroversial proposals that meet specified criteria—see § Speedy renaming and merging below.
- Full discussion, for all other proposals. Discussions typically remain open for at least seven days and are closed once a rough consensus has formed or no objections to the nomination are raised.
Except in uncontroversial cases such as reverting vandalism, do not amend or depopulate a category once it has been nominated at CfD as this hampers other editors' efforts to evaluate a category and participate in the discussion.
If a discussion on the request closer's talk page doesn't resolve the issue, Move review can be used to contest CfDs limited in scope to renaming and evaluate whether the closure was consistent with the closing instructions. CfDs involving deletion should instead be reviewed at Deletion review.
| V | Sep | Oct | Nov | Dec | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| CfD | 0 | 0 | 8 | 84 | 92 |
| TfD | 0 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 4 |
| MfD | 0 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 4 |
| FfD | 0 | 0 | 3 | 12 | 15 |
| RfD | 0 | 0 | 0 | 36 | 36 |
| AfD | 0 | 0 | 0 | 35 | 35 |
For general discussion about how to improve the category system, use other appropriate venues such as Wikipedia talk:Categorization, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Categories, and relevant WikiProjects' talk pages.
Current discussions
[edit]Closing procedure
[edit]After seven days, an administrator (or possibly a non-admin) will determine if consensus has formed, and close the discussion. If appropriate, the discussion instead may be relisted to allow for more discussion. Editors closing discussions must follow the administrator instructions and implement the result or log it at the Working page to ensure it is implemented. As noted at Wikipedia:Deletion process#Non-administrators closing discussions, non-admins may follow the process at Wikipedia talk:Categories for discussion/Working, and list discussion results there for an admin to review, and to log to the page directly.
Discussions awaiting closure
[edit]- List of links to individual open discussions (>7 days old): Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Old unclosed discussions - updated by User:AnomieBOT
- Full text of all open discussions (>7 days old): Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/All old discussions - powered by a Lua module parsing /Old unclosed discussions
- List of days with open discussions (>7 days old): included below from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Awaiting closure – powered by a Lua module parsing /Old unclosed discussions
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 December 19 (10 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 December 18 (10 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 December 17 (16 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 December 16 (6 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 December 15 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 December 14 (4 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 December 13 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 December 12 (4 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 December 11 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 December 10 (6 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 December 9 (5 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 December 8 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 December 7 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 December 6 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 December 5 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 December 4 (7 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 December 3 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 December 2 (4 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 November 29 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 November 26 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 November 25 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 November 22 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 November 14 (1 open)
How to nominate a category for discussion
[edit]Nomination procedure
[edit]Twinkle
[edit]You may use Twinkle to facilitate CfD nominations. To install Twinkle, go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets and check "Twinkle" in the "Browsing" section. Use the now-installed "XfD" (Start a deletion discussion) tab while viewing the page you want to nominate.
Twinkle only allows you to nominate a single category or stub template. For bundled nominations including multiple categories, see § MassCFD.
MassCFD
[edit]You can use the script User:Qwerfjkl/scripts/massXFD to automatically make mass nominations.
Manual nominations
[edit]| I | Preliminary steps.
Before nominating a category:
In the following special cases:
For further information, see Wikipedia:Categorization and Wikipedia:Manual of Style. |
| II | Edit the category.
Add one of the following templates at the beginning of the category page (not the talk page) of every category to be discussed. For nominations involving large numbers of categories, help adding these templates can be requested here.
|
| III | Create the CFD section.
Click THIS LINK to edit the section of CfD for today's entries. Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) to copy and paste one of the templates below. When inserting category names into these template's parameters, except the
|
Stub types
[edit]| I | Preliminary steps.
In general, a stub type consists of a stub template and a dedicated stub category. Before nominating a stub type for deletion, merging or renaming:
|
| II | Edit the template.
Add one of the following tags at the beginning of the template to be discussed.
|
| III | Create the CFD section.
Click THIS LINK to edit the section of CfD for today's entries. Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) and paste the following text (remember to update the default parameters):
|
Notifying interested projects and editors
[edit]In addition to the steps listed above, you may choose to invite participation by editors who are likely to be informed about a nominated category. All such efforts must comply with Wikipedia's guideline against biased canvassing. In addition, to help make your messages about the CfD discussion clear, avoid Wikipedia-specific abbreviations, link to relevant policies or guidelines, and link to the discussion itself.
- Notifying related WikiProjects
WikiProjects consist of groups of editors who are interested in a particular subject. If a nominated category is within the scope of one or more WikiProjects, consider adding a brief, neutral note on their talk page(s) about the nomination. You may use {{subst:cfd notice|Category name|2025 December 27|CfD section name}} ~~~~ or write a personalized message.
Tagging the nominated category's talk page with a relevant WikiProject's banner will include the category in that WikiProject's Article Alerts if they subscribe to the system. For instance, tagging a nominated category with {{WikiProject Physics}} will add the discussion to Wikipedia:WikiProject Physics/Article alerts.
- Notifying substantial contributors to the category
While not required, it is generally considered courteous to notify the good-faith creator and main contributors of the category that you are nominating for discussion. To find the creator and main contributors, check the category's page history or talk page. You may use {{Cfd notice}} to inform the category's creator and all other editors.
- Notifying other interested editors
It may be helpful to invite other subject-matter experts by posting a message on the talk page of the most closely related article, such as Protein family for Category:Protein families. You may use {{Cfdnotice}} for this.
Speedy renaming and merging
Speedy renaming or speedy merging of categories may be requested if they meet one of the speedy criteria listed below. To nominate a category:
- Determine which speedy criterion applies.
- Tag the category page with
{{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}or{{subst:cfm-speedy|Merge target}}. - List the request along with a speedy criteria reason at § New requests.
Speedy requests must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points but only at a full discussion at Categories for discussion.
The nomination and its discussion may get moved further down the page purely for organizational convenience. Categories that qualify for speedy deletion can be tagged with the regular speedy tags with no required delay or listing. Renaming under C2E may be processed instantly (at the discretion of an administrator) as it is a variation on G7.
Opposing
Requests generally take about 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the criteria and raise any objections.
To oppose a speedy request, insert this immediately under the nomination:
* '''Oppose''': Explain your objection. ~~~~
If you belatedly notice and want to oppose a speedy move that has already been processed, contact one of the admins who process speedy nominations. If your objection seems valid, they may reverse the move, or start a regular CfD discussion. Unless you withdraw your opposition, the nomination may be turned into a regular CfD discussion.
Contested speedy requests become stale and can be untagged and delisted after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{Moved from|. If the nominator wants to revive the process, this may be requested at CfD in accordance with its instructions.
[[WP:CFDS]]|~~~~}}
Speedy criteria
The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming or merging are strictly limited to:
C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes
- Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
- Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
- Correction of obvious grammatical errors, such as a missing conjunction (e.g. Individual frogs toads → Individual frogs and toads). This includes pluralizing a noun in the name of a set category, but not when disagreement might reasonably be anticipated as to whether the category is a topic or set category.
C2B: Consistency with established Wikipedia naming conventions and practices
- Expanding abbreviated country names (e.g. U.S. → United States).
- Disambiguation fixes from an unqualified name (e.g. Category:Washington → Category:Washington (state) or Category:Washington, D.C.).
C2C: Consistency with established category tree names
Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Wikipedia:Category names
- This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
- This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full CfD nomination.
- This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. Category:Transportation in the United States and Category:Transport in the United Kingdom).
C2D: Consistency with main article's name
- Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous page (e.g. Category:The Beatles and The Beatles).
- This applies only if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is:
- unambiguous (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and
- uncontroversial, either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if the result would be contrary to guidelines at WP:CATNAME, or there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a no consensus result, or it is controversial in some other way.
- This criterion may also be used to rename a set category in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district.
- Before nominating a category to be renamed per C2D, consider whether it makes more sense to move the article instead of the category.
C2E: Author request
- This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category.
- The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.
C2F: One eponymous page
- This criterion applies if the category contains only an eponymous article, list, template or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable.
- Nominations should use
{{subst:cfm-speedy}}(speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article). When listing the nomination at WP:CFDS, you must manually add all the appropriate parent categories as targets if the member page is not already in them.
| Administrators and page movers: Do not use the "Move" tab to move categories listed here!Categories are processed following the 48-hour waiting period and are moved by a bot. |
When handling the listings:
- Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria.
- With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously.
- Make sure that there is no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition.
If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed or merged – follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Administrator instructions, in the section "If the decision is to Rename, Merge, or Delete"; to list it for the bots, use the Speedy moves section.
A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
- The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and
- No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
The closure will be regarded as having been a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised, then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.
For out of process deletions, check Category:Empty categories awaiting deletion. In some cases, these will need to be nominated for discussion and the editor who emptied the category informed that they should follow the CfD process. After renaming, copy and paste the listing to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Working/Manual.Current requests
[edit]If the category does not match one of the above criteria or you are not sure it qualifies, do not list it here. Instead, use the main CfD process. Requests may be completed if more than 48 hours old; i.e., if the nomination was created before 01:47, 25 December 2025 (UTC). Currently, there are 115 open requests ().
To list it here, use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list:
* [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
If the current name should be redirected rather than deleted, use:
* REDIRECT [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
If human action is required, e.g. updating templates that populate the category, use:
* NO BOTS [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
Remember to tag the category page with: {{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
New requests
[edit]- Category:Health in Scottish Borders to Category:Health in the Scottish Borders – C2C: Grammar edit per C2A and C2C with the subcats of Scottish Borders - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 21:29, 26 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Highland geography stubs to Category:Highland (council area) geography stubs – C2C: Parent category is Geography of Highland (council area) - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 21:17, 26 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Aveiro Football Association players to Category:F.C. Pampilhosa players – C2D, match parent article name. GiantSnowman 19:17, 26 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Léon Theremin to Category:Leon Theremin – C2D: Main article is Leon Theremin - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 15:48, 26 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:European Union–Sudan relations to Category:Sudan–European Union relations – C2D. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:35, 26 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:American Businesspeople templates to Category:American businesspeople templates – C2A. Inpops (talk) 15:23, 26 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Novelty and fad dances to Category:Dance crazes – C2D, article stable at that name since 2022. – Fayenatic London 13:05, 26 December 2025 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:Pre-Columbian trans-oceanic contact to Category:Pre-Columbian transoceanic contact theories – C2D, page stable at that name since 2023. Redirect to maintain incoming links in discussions about this controversial topic. – Fayenatic London 12:50, 26 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Environmental films to Category:Films about environmental issues – C2C: In line with other subcategories of films by topic, and also consistency in terminology with the category description. silviaASH (inquire within) 12:08, 26 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Climate change films to Category:Films about climate change – C2C: In line with other "media by topic" subcategories. silviaASH (inquire within) 12:04, 26 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Belgian noble stubs to Category:Belgian nobility stubs – C2E: Also C2C, consistency with European nobility stubs's subcats - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 04:18, 26 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Brojomohun College to Category:Government Brojomohun College – C2D: Brojomohun College redirects to Government Brojomohun College SMasonGarrison 02:58, 26 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Word play to Category:Wordplay – C2D: Main article was moved to wordplay. Malerisch (talk) 01:08, 26 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Hammam Lif to Category:People from Hammam-Lif – C2B. Hitsuji777 (talk) 11:58, 25 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Turkish diaspora in Norway to Category:Turks in Norway – C2D/C2C. Hassan697 (talk) 09:57, 25 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Jewish Quarters to Category:Jewish quarters – C2A/C2D. Brandmeister talk 20:23, 24 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:LGBT community to Category:LGBTQ community – C2D: See LGBTQ community. Abesca (talk) 13:37, 23 December 2025 (UTC)
- This is a category redirect. Category:LGBTQ community should just be created as a new redirect rather than the existing redirect being moved. 1857a (talk) 15:21, 23 December 2025 (UTC)
- What happens with historial and curid them? Abesca (talk) 22:53, 24 December 2025 (UTC)
- This is a category redirect. Category:LGBTQ community should just be created as a new redirect rather than the existing redirect being moved. 1857a (talk) 15:21, 23 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:NK Zarica Kranj players to Category:NK Kranj players - C2D - NK Kranj. Darwinek (talk) 11:37, 23 December 2025 (UTC)
- I will retag it now for cfd and we will be waiting for 48h here, to avoid any confusion Ymblanter (talk) 20:37, 25 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Rungsted Seier Capital players to Category:Rungsted Ishockey Klub players
- @OpalYosutebito:, destination looks misformatted. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 10:49, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
- @OpalYosutebito: this should become Category:Rungsted Ishockey Klub players. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:50, 26 December 2025 (UTC)
- @OpalYosutebito:, destination looks misformatted. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 10:49, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
Opposed requests
[edit]- Category:Oranjestad, Aruba to Category:Oranjestad – C2D: Oranjestad. FromCzech (talk) 19:29, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People from Oranjestad, Aruba to Category:People from Oranjestad
- Category:Buildings and structures in Oranjestad, Aruba to Category:Buildings and structures in Oranjestad
- @FromCzech: this is currently not speediable because Oranjestad (disambiguation) exists. But honestly the better solution is to have that dab page deleted. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:45, 16 December 2025 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle:, Ok, I nominated the dab page for deletion. FromCzech (talk) 06:30, 16 December 2025 (UTC)
- @FromCzech: oppose. I was mistaken, even while the dab page has been deleted there are still two places called Oranjestad. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:55, 26 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Histories of cities in Sri Lanka to Category:History of Sri Lanka by city – C2C: Per consistency with the grammar style of History of Sri Lanka by location - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 20:00, 22 December 2025 (UTC)
- Actually, on second thought, I don't know if we should do that first one - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 20:04, 22 December 2025 (UTC)
- We shouldn't, it would conflict with the tree of Category:Histories of cities. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:32, 23 December 2025 (UTC)
- Actually, on second thought, I don't know if we should do that first one - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 20:04, 22 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Members of the Supreme Soviet of the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic to Category:Members of the Supreme Soviet of Russia – C2D (Supreme Soviet of Russia), C2C (Category:Supreme Soviet of Russia). Place Clichy (talk) 00:36, 22 December 2025 (UTC)
- Both categories exist, and there is an important difference - those prior to 1991 were regional deputies, while these after we're members of the state parliament. It is better to take it to the full Cfd and discuss the merge there. Ymblanter (talk) 06:41, 24 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Works by Alejandro González Iñárritu to Category:Works by Alejandro G. Iñárritu - C2C, main article is titled Alejandro G. Iñárritu
- Category:Films directed by Alejandro González Iñárritu to Category:Films directed by Alejandro G. Iñárritu - C2C, main article is titled Alejandro G. Iñárritu
- Category:Films with screenplays by Alejandro González Iñárritu to Category:Films with screenplays by Alejandro G. Iñárritu - C2C, main article is titled Alejandro G. Iñárritu
- Oppose all as I have reverted the undiscussed move of the main article. HurricaneZetaC 23:24, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Books about foreign relations of the Peoples Republic of China to Category:Books about foreign relations of China – C2B: Plus, no ambiguity exists with another category abour Taiwan/ROC. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:56, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Permanent representatives of China to the United Nations Office at Geneva to Category:Permanent representatives of China to the United Nations in Geneva – C2C: Per other entries in Category:Permanent representatives to the United Nations in Geneva and main category naming. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:51, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Naturalized citizens of the People's Republic of China to Category:Naturalized citizens of China – C2C: Categories in Category:Naturalized citizens by country use common name of countries. Plus, No ambiguity with any Taiwan/ROC category. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:45, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
- @WikiCleanerMan Did you mean Naturalized citizens of China - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 22:35, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
- Yes I did. Good catch. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:37, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks! :D - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 22:49, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
- Yes I did. Good catch. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:37, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
- @WikiCleanerMan Did you mean Naturalized citizens of China - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 22:35, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Naturalised citizens of the People's Republic of China in Hong Kong to Category:Naturalised citizens of China in Hong Kong – C2B. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:45, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Autonomous banners of the People's Republic of China to Category:Autonomous banners of China – C2B. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:39, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Vice-governors of the People's Republic of China to Category:Vice-governors of China – C2B. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:38, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:People convicted of spying for the People's Republic of China to Category:People convicted of spying for China – C2B. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:37, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Companies that have filed for bankruptcy in the People's Republic of China to Category:Companies that have filed for bankruptcy in China – C2B. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:32, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Heads of mission of the People's Republic of China to NATO to Category:Heads of mission of China to NATO – C2B. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:32, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Honorary titles of the People's Republic of China to Category:Honorary titles of China – C2B. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:31, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Sports agencies in the People's Republic of China to Category:Sports agencies in China – C2B. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:30, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Ethnic townships of the People's Republic of China to Category:Ethnic townships of China – C2B. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:29, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Former autonomous prefectures of the People's Republic of China to Category:Former autonomous prefectures of China – C2B. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:28, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Autonomous counties of the People's Republic of China to Category:Autonomous counties of China – C2B. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:28, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Autonomous prefectures of the People's Republic of China to Category:Autonomous prefectures of China – C2B. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:28, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Sub-provincial cities in the People's Republic of China to Category:Sub-provincial cities in China – C2B. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:27, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Prefecture-level divisions of the People's Republic of China to Category:Prefecture-level divisions of China – C2B. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:27, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:County-level divisions of the People's Republic of China to Category:County-level divisions of China – C2B. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:26, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Subdistricts of the People's Republic of China to Category:Subdistricts of China – C2B: Per WP:Commonname - we don't use formal names of countries. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:26, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
- Procedural oppose to all above PRC nominations. They should be discussed on a case-by-case basis. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:43, 19 December 2025 (UTC)
- There are no ROC/Taiwan cats to disambiguate from. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:50, 19 December 2025 (UTC)
- Marcocapelle, on what basis do you oppose. We don't use formal names and none of these require such due to no ROC/Taiwan cats to disambiguate from. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 02:20, 22 December 2025 (UTC)
- @WikiCleanerMan: any of them might be added to Category:History of the People's Republic of China which is a valid subcategory of Category:History of China by period. You may well argue that a number (or all) of them are a matter of a trivial intersection with history, but that is an argument for full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:20, 22 December 2025 (UTC)
- They are not historical subdivisions of China by any period. They refer to China in the present. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:06, 22 December 2025 (UTC)
- @WikiCleanerMan: any of them might be added to Category:History of the People's Republic of China which is a valid subcategory of Category:History of China by period. You may well argue that a number (or all) of them are a matter of a trivial intersection with history, but that is an argument for full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:20, 22 December 2025 (UTC)
- Procedural oppose to all above PRC nominations. They should be discussed on a case-by-case basis. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:43, 19 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Former Greek Orthodox Christians to Category:Former Eastern Orthodox Christians from Greece – C2C: parent is Eastern Orthodox Christians from Greece SMasonGarrison 15:30, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose this batch. There is a confusion between the Greek Orthodox Church and the Church of Greece, or Russian Orthodoxy and the Patriarchate of Moscow etc. These categories are for members of a common rite or church body, not from a specific country. It is confusing because one is named after the other but there are probably more Greek Orthodox Christians in the U.S.A. and Australia than in Greece. These "Eastern" Orthodox Christians categories may need some rearranging, but not this way. Re: C2C, the parents were added to the cats by the nom together at the same time, and are equally erroneous, although in good faith of course. Place Clichy (talk) 18:19, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
- Maybe it would help to have some nationality categories in here to help make the disction clearer? SMasonGarrison 20:26, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
- Sure, compare Category:Eastern Orthodox Christians by jurisdiction and Category:Eastern Orthodox Christians by nationality. You wrote below that you were
basing this on that fact that all of these categories were parented by Category:Former Eastern Orthodox Christians.
As in that parent category, religious affiliation is probably the most defining characteristic for religious converts. If we have a high volume of these, maybe it would then make sense to have a secondary diffusion by nationality, but I think we are far from that! - In the lot however, I think that Category:Former American Orthodox Christians is indeed about nationality, and may be renamed to Category:Former Eastern Orthodox Christians from the United States. Our of the 5 articles there, 3 are clearly called Greek Orthodox in the body (Jeffrey Eugenides, Alex Joseph, James Likoudis) and may also be placed in Category:Former Greek Orthodox Christians, and 2 others (Svetlana Alliluyeva, Cyril Toumanoff) are called Russian Orthodox and can also belong to Category:Former Russian Orthodox Christians.
- Category:Former Lithuanian Orthodox Christians is somewhat a weird case, with just one article (Uliana Olshanska, d. 1448) about a woman probably raised in Kievan Christianity who became Catholic upon marrying Grand-Duke Vytautas of Lithuania. There is no Lithuanian Orthodox church body and never was, and this Grand-Duchess was never Lithuanian AND Orthodox at the same time. 15th-century Orthodoxy is probably not comparable to the organization it has today. In the area, Orthodoxy was attached to the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople, but you can't really call them Greek Orthodox because Slavic lands were Christianized with their own liturgical language, so that would be anachronistic. The best course is probably to just keep the article in Category:Converts to Roman Catholicism from Eastern Orthodoxy and not a Lithuanian Orthodox category which makes little sense. Place Clichy (talk) 23:50, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
- The Moldova and New Zealand categories contained bogus inclusions which I moved to better parents. All other categories are clearly about church jurisdictions. Place Clichy (talk) 23:50, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
- Sure, compare Category:Eastern Orthodox Christians by jurisdiction and Category:Eastern Orthodox Christians by nationality. You wrote below that you were
- Maybe it would help to have some nationality categories in here to help make the disction clearer? SMasonGarrison 20:26, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Former Russian Orthodox Christians to Category:Former Eastern Orthodox Christians from Russia – C2C: parent is Eastern Orthodox Christians from Russia SMasonGarrison 15:29, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Former Antiochian Orthodox Christians to Category:Former members of the Greek Orthodox Church of Antioch – C2C: parent is Members of the Greek Orthodox Church of Antioch SMasonGarrison 15:28, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Former Albanian Orthodox Christians to Category:Former Eastern Orthodox Christians from Albania – C2C: parent is Eastern Orthodox Christians from Albania SMasonGarrison 15:27, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Former Polish Orthodox Christians to Category:Former Eastern Orthodox Christians from Poland – C2C: parent is Eastern Orthodox Christians from Poland SMasonGarrison 15:23, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Former Romanian Orthodox Christians to Category:Former Eastern Orthodox Christians from Romania – C2C: parent is Eastern Orthodox Christians from Romania SMasonGarrison 15:22, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Former Serbian Orthodox Christians to Category:Former Eastern Orthodox Christians from Serbia – C2C: parent is Eastern Orthodox Christians from Serbia SMasonGarrison 15:22, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Former Syrian Orthodox Christians to Category:Former Eastern Orthodox Christians from Syria – C2C: parent is Eastern Orthodox Christians from Syria SMasonGarrison 15:21, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Former Ukrainian Orthodox Christians to Category:Former Eastern Orthodox Christians from Ukraine – C2C: parents are Former Eastern Orthodox Christians and Eastern Orthodox Christians from Ukraine SMasonGarrison 15:20, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Former Bulgarian Orthodox Christians to Category:Former Eastern Orthodox Christians from Bulgaria – C2C: parent is Eastern Orthodox Christians from Bulgaria SMasonGarrison 15:16, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Former Georgian Orthodox Christians to Category:Former Eastern Orthodox Christians from Georgia (country) – C2C: parent is Eastern Orthodox Christians from Georgia (country) SMasonGarrison 15:16, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Lebanese former Eastern Orthodox Christians to Category:Former Eastern Orthodox Christians from Lebanon – C2C: Norm is like Former... from FOO see Category:Eastern Orthodox Christians by nationality SMasonGarrison 15:15, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
- As an example of what is wrong here, all ("Eastern") Orthodox Christians in Lebanon are Greek Orthodox, the parent category should be Category:Greek Orthodox Christians from Lebanon and that category should be named Category:Former Greek Orthodox Christians from Lebanon. Place Clichy (talk) 20:18, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
- That's helpful. I'd be happy to use that rename targets. For the record, I was basing this on that fact that all of these categories were parented by Category:Former Eastern Orthodox Christians. SMasonGarrison 20:24, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
- As an example of what is wrong here, all ("Eastern") Orthodox Christians in Lebanon are Greek Orthodox, the parent category should be Category:Greek Orthodox Christians from Lebanon and that category should be named Category:Former Greek Orthodox Christians from Lebanon. Place Clichy (talk) 20:18, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Former American Orthodox Christians to Category:Former Eastern Orthodox Christians from the United States – C2C: parents are Eastern Orthodox Christians from the United States and Former Eastern Orthodox Christians SMasonGarrison 15:13, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Former Belarusian Orthodox Christians to Category:Former Eastern Orthodox Christians from Belarus – C2C: parents are Eastern Orthodox Christians from Belarus and Former Eastern Orthodox Christians SMasonGarrison 15:11, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose this batch. There is a confusion between the Greek Orthodox Church and the Church of Greece, or Russian Orthodoxy and the Patriarchate of Moscow etc. These categories are for members of a common rite or church body, not from a specific country. It is confusing because one is named after the other but there are probably more Greek Orthodox Christians in the U.S.A. and Australia than in Greece. These "Eastern" Orthodox Christians categories may need some rearranging, but not this way. Re: C2C, the parents were added to the cats by the nom together at the same time, and are equally erroneous, although in good faith of course. Place Clichy (talk) 18:19, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
On hold pending other discussion
[edit]- Category:Assas Wikipedians to Category:Wikipedians by alma mater: Paris-Panthéon-Assas University – C2C/C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 17:26, 11 December 2025 (UTC)
- @Pppery: oppose for now. This category is being used to identify members of a class project that is doing work at DYK and causing some problems. Changing the name now would make it harder for them to identify themselves. I suggest moving this to On hold pending other discussion, see Wikipedia talk:Did you know#New users reviewing articles. TSventon (talk) 17:33, 12 December 2025 (UTC)
- No objection. Just saw this on my user category reports with no context as to what it was being used for. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:40, 12 December 2025 (UTC)
- @Pppery: hopefully the project will become less mysterious soon. it may be that something like Wikipedia:School and university projects/NNU Class Project/Winter 2012 would be appropriate, but there are more urgent issues to deal with. Admittedly, the NNU example is fairly old. TSventon (talk) 23:42, 12 December 2025 (UTC)
- @TSventon: the discussion is no longer active. Should the category be moved after all, possibly while leaving a redirect? Marcocapelle (talk) 14:36, 26 December 2025 (UTC)
- @Pppery: hopefully the project will become less mysterious soon. it may be that something like Wikipedia:School and university projects/NNU Class Project/Winter 2012 would be appropriate, but there are more urgent issues to deal with. Admittedly, the NNU example is fairly old. TSventon (talk) 23:42, 12 December 2025 (UTC)
- No objection. Just saw this on my user category reports with no context as to what it was being used for. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:40, 12 December 2025 (UTC)
- @Pppery: oppose for now. This category is being used to identify members of a class project that is doing work at DYK and causing some problems. Changing the name now would make it harder for them to identify themselves. I suggest moving this to On hold pending other discussion, see Wikipedia talk:Did you know#New users reviewing articles. TSventon (talk) 17:33, 12 December 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Industry by sector and country to Category:Industries by sector and country – C2C: per Category:Industries by country. Mclay1 (talk) 04:01, 4 December 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. Making it plural does not improve anything; it just leads to duplicate category trees. I am planning to fully reintegrate Category:Industries by country back into Category:Industry by country anyway, so that's no speedy argument for me at all; on the contrary. I've already nominated Category:Industries in Iran and Category:Industries in Myanmar for upmerging. I would recommend to defer until the outcome of those two are clear, or to take this one to full CFD instead. NLeeuw (talk) 12:49, 6 December 2025 (UTC)
- @Nederlandse Leeuw: It does improve it, because the top-level category for the tree is Category:Industries (economics). These categories are set categories and so need to be plural. Mclay1 (talk) 22:30, 6 December 2025 (UTC)
- Let's wait and see the outcome of the related industry CfDs. Mclay1 (talk) 13:21, 11 December 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. Making it plural does not improve anything; it just leads to duplicate category trees. I am planning to fully reintegrate Category:Industries by country back into Category:Industry by country anyway, so that's no speedy argument for me at all; on the contrary. I've already nominated Category:Industries in Iran and Category:Industries in Myanmar for upmerging. I would recommend to defer until the outcome of those two are clear, or to take this one to full CFD instead. NLeeuw (talk) 12:49, 6 December 2025 (UTC)
Moved to full discussion
[edit]- Category:World War II tanks by country to Category:Tanks of World War II by country – C2C: Per consistency with the subcats of Tanks by period and country - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 20:17, 22 December 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose - While the reason given is true, this category is also a subcategory of Category:World War II armoured fighting vehicles by country, and this change would make this the only subcategory of that not following the "Y X" naming pattern. IMHO the subcategories of Category:World War II armoured fighting vehicles by country should all be renamed to "X of Y" format, but that would require a full CfD. - The Bushranger One ping only 01:12, 24 December 2025 (UTC)
- Dang. Guess I should get started on that, thanks! - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 01:29, 24 December 2025 (UTC)
- @The Bushranger I'm a little confused. So instead of World War II armoured fighting vehicles of Belgium, it would be Armoured fighting vehicles of World War II in Belgium? I'll hold off on making the proposal until I begin to understand... - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 11:36, 25 December 2025 (UTC)
- I was thinking more along the lines of Category:Armoured fighting vehicles of Belgium in World War II, although now that it's "spelt out" it does look a little silly and perhaps "Y X" in this case might not be so bad after all... - The Bushranger One ping only 22:30, 25 December 2025 (UTC)
- Hmmm... I'll start the CFD tonight. As always, please let me know what you think and if I missed anything :D - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 04:53, 26 December 2025 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:33, 26 December 2025 (UTC)
- Hmmm... I'll start the CFD tonight. As always, please let me know what you think and if I missed anything :D - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 04:53, 26 December 2025 (UTC)
- I was thinking more along the lines of Category:Armoured fighting vehicles of Belgium in World War II, although now that it's "spelt out" it does look a little silly and perhaps "Y X" in this case might not be so bad after all... - The Bushranger One ping only 22:30, 25 December 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose - While the reason given is true, this category is also a subcategory of Category:World War II armoured fighting vehicles by country, and this change would make this the only subcategory of that not following the "Y X" naming pattern. IMHO the subcategories of Category:World War II armoured fighting vehicles by country should all be renamed to "X of Y" format, but that would require a full CfD. - The Bushranger One ping only 01:12, 24 December 2025 (UTC)
Empty categories awaiting deletion
[edit]The categories listed below have been identified as empty using {{db-catempty}}, and will be speedily deleted after 7 days unless populated. (Note: Due to technical limitations, all contents of the category may not be displayed; view the category directly to see all contents.)