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Category:Sport in Arcadia, Peloponnese

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Nominator's rationale: With four "sport" categories, one "sports clubs and teams" category, and six "football clubs" categories, not related to each other, out of 74 regional units in Greece, this does not help finding content. If kept, rename five to match their regional unit article and category (four additions of  (regional unit) and one typo in Zakynthos. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 23:37, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Actors from Cass County, North Dakota

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Nominator's rationale: Redundant layer. No need to merge. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 23:35, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Adventures of Earnest Evans and Anett Myer

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Nominator's rationale: Only three games were ever made for this video game series (no official name exists for it) and this is not the way we would categorize them anyway. — Dissident93 (talk) 22:40, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:2MASS objects

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Nominator's rationale: 2MASS is a comprehensive all-sky survey with over 300 million objects, plus about 1 million more in the 2MASX extension, so nearly all sufficiently bright objects have an entry. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 17:23, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Blauw-Wit Amsterdam songs

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Nominator's rationale: One song per club; does not help navigation. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 16:59, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is OK to merge.--౪ Santa ౪99° 17:26, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:TIC objects

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Nominator's rationale: Same problem as the KIC category, only more so. There are 1.7 billion objects with TIC designations, including most stars with Wikipedia articles. SevenSpheres (talk) 16:31, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete In contrast to Category:TESS Objects of Interest, this is a catalog of every star surveyed by TESS, most of which are uninteresting to its objectives. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 17:25, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Kepler Input Catalog

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Nominator's rationale: Over-categorisation and limited usefulness. The catalog contains 13 million objects, nearly all the stars visible in a big chunk of the northern sky. The vast majority of notable stars will have received a KOI or Kepler designations and be catagorised through that. Anything that hasn't probably only has an incidental KIC designation, ie. of no significance. Lithopsian (talk) 15:51, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete As the creator of this category, I have no problem with the reasoning. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 17:42, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Anglo-Cornish surnames

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Nominator's rationale: Why is the "Anglo" prefix necessary? RobbieSpargo (talk) 14:24, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:American female bodybuilders of Chinese descent

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Nominator's rationale: per Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 September 3#American sportspeople by country of descent SMasonGarrison 19:16, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 16:28, 9 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Smasongarrison (hello! long time since we last spoke, hope you're well!), also worth nominating these categories under the previous Cfd.
Excellent on all counts! SMasonGarrison 19:36, 9 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Just tagged the new additions.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 13:19, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Battles in the Southern theater of the American Revolutionary War

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Nominator's rationale: I can't see a reason why these battles need splitting into two categories. Both categories have the same parent categories, and there are no corresponding articles or lists splitting the war like this. There is only one article for the Southern theater of the American Revolutionary War. Mclay1 (talk) 13:07, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Battles of the War of 1812

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Nominator's rationale: These battle categories are specifically for the War of 1812, but nothing in the names specifies that, making them ambiguous. For example, the Old Northwest is a place and the category name currently suggests that it's for any battles that took place there during any war. Mclay1 (talk) 12:57, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Mongolian conservationists

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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. underpopulated category SMasonGarrison 01:09, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Boy Scouts of America by region

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Nominator's rationale: WP:NONDEFINING
The Boy Scouts of America used to have four regions which was a useful breakdown. But what is now called "Scouting America" eliminated the regions in 2021 in favor of 14 Council Service Territories so this no longer seems defining. I already went through all the articles to make sure this nomination wouldn't inadvertently remove any from the organization's category tree. (Note that I did not recategorize state articles, like Scouting in Arizona, since they're not about a single organization; see WP:SCOUTSTYLE#Equal weight to associations.) - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:05, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Is there any particular reason why no defunct councils are categorized in any of those categories? It seems somewhat odd. Care to differ or discuss with me? The Nth User 06:49, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps these categories were based on a now defunct online list, rather than using a map, but that's just a guess. I'm not sure how long these regions were used prior to 2021 so defunct councils may or may not have ever belonged to a region. RevelationDirect (talk) 11:45, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I can tell, the four-region system was used since the BSA's inception until 2021. Category:Defunct local councils of the Boy Scouts of America has over 1,000 categories, so splitting it is probably a good idea, and using the four-region method is a viable method. The other obvious method would be splitting it by states, but having at least 50 (likely more because of territories, Washington D.C., the Transatlantic Council, and the Far East Council) child categories of Category:Defunct local councils of the Boy Scouts of America could potentially create clutter and hinder navigation. (Category:United States election stubs gets around the same problem by splitting the United States into four regions, having one child category for each region, and having the state categories be child categories of the region categories, but trying to adapt it to this situation would likely require giving Texas, Montana, Nebraska, South Dakota, and West Virginia two categories each and giving Virginia three categories.) While I agree that categorizing councils created since the change in administrative divisions, I think that categorizing councils created before the change in administrative divisions does not have this issue. (To clarify, my proposal would involve creating separate categories with defunct in the category names.) Care to differ or discuss with me? The Nth User 18:43, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I do get the diffusion value and we do have a map of the old regions at File:Boy_Scouts_of_America_regional_division_map.svg. I'm not really sure if grouping articles based on that graphic would be WP:SYNTH or not. - RevelationDirect (talk) 22:27, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Treaties extended to the Danish West Indies

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Nominator's rationale: WP:V (WP:SYNTH, WP:RS), WP:NONDEFINING, and WP:N (WP:NLIST)
I'm skeptical of this category tree in general because it automatically adds dependent territories when the parent country signed treaties, but colonial administrations applied unequal legal standards. This subcategory seems especially weak given the timing of the treaties and the territory existing from 1672 to 1917:
Not only are there no sources, but none of these treaty articles even mention the Danish West Indies while the Danish West Indies article doesn't mention white slavery, obscenity, or opium. Even if these issues did exist at this time and place, by the early 20th century Denmark's colonial administration was in such a shambles it's unlikely the treaty obligations would have been enforced anyway. This feels more like a draft list article in the wrong namespace. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:05, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Malaysian women engineers

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Nominator's rationale: Only 1 entry. Already in Category:Malaysian engineers. LibStar (talk) 00:39, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Malaysian electronics engineers

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Nominator's rationale: Only 1 entry. LibStar (talk) 00:26, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]