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Hello editors. Disagreement over the lead section of the Sokoban article has led to edit warring. I'd like to present both discussed leads and seek your input regarding their prose, content, and style.
Please review both lead versions below. Your comments and preference, supported by Wikipedia policies and guidelines, would be greatly appreciated. A) Lead Version A (Video game type-focused opening): "Sokoban is a puzzle video game in which the player pushes boxes around in a warehouse, trying to get them to storage locations. Designed in 1981 by Hiroyuki Imabayashi, it was first published in Japan in 1982 by his company Thinking Rabbit for the NEC PC-8801 computer. The game was later ported to various platforms and followed by new titles. It became popular in Japan and internationally, inspiring unofficial versions, a subgenre of box-pushing puzzle games, and artificial intelligence research." B) Lead Version B (Specific 1982 game-focused opening, creator not in lead): "Sokoban[a] is a 1982 puzzle video game developed and published by Japanese studio Thinking Rabbit. In the game, the player pushes boxes around in a warehouse, trying to get them to storage locations. It was first released in Japan in 1982 for the NEC PC-8801 computer. The game was later ported to various platforms and followed by new titles. It became popular in Japan and internationally, inspiring unofficial versions, a subgenre of box-pushing puzzle games, and artificial intelligence research." Specific Questions for Discussion Overall Framing: Which version (A or B) do you believe provides the most appropriate lead for the Sokoban article? Specifically, should the lead primarily introduce Sokoban as: A) A puzzle video game type/genre, with details about the first title in 1982 following. B) The specific 1982 original video game. Clarity: When evaluating the above, please consider how the words of the lead matches the information in the article. For example, the ai research is about general Sokoban puzzles, not about the 1982 release. Creator Mention: Do you believe Hiroyuki Imabayashi (the creator) should be mentioned in the lead and the infobox as a basic fact? Your input and reasoning are highly valued. Carloseow (talk) 04:34, 8 July 2025 (UTC) |
To give a short summary, I've actually went through all Wikipedia policies and precedents, and everything is quite simple. The album page should have the name "." (MOS:ALBUM, "The article name should be the title of the album"). This is in line with all the precedents like such as ÷, !, _. Even in complex Unicode cases the rule is upheld: While(1<2), <|°_°|>, (A→B) Life. The only example against this (correct me if I'm wrong) is Love Symbol which isn't a Unicode character in the first place anyway.
However, there is a technical limitation that a) Wikipedia page name can't contain a single dot (no such page exists) and b) per renaming discussion above unlike other single-character album names, a dot is especially technically challenging to serve as a valid reference due to its size and function. So page title Period (Kesha album) is not under question. My
Discussion above seems to support this at the moment (4 opinions for this versus 1 opinion against). In principle we can also count all the reverted edits from all the other users. Due to this being a special case and ongoing back-and-forth edits opinions from the wider community are very much welcome.--Vinokurov Demis (talk) 03:40, 5 July 2025 (UTC) |
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spaceflight
Should articles about spaceflight missions (e.g., launches and landings) present UTC first and local time in parentheses, or local time first and UTC in parentheses? The current WikiProject Spaceflight style guide recommends listing UTC first as space is not within any Earth-bound time zone, while some editors argue this contradicts MOS:TIMEZONE, which prioritizes local time where an event took place.
The goal of this RfC is to determine whether spaceflight articles should make an exception to MOS:TIMEZONE (if such a exception is needed) by standardizing on UTC first formatting, given the global and technical nature of these events. Examples of formatting options:
Please share your thoughts and rationale below. -- RickyCourtney (talk) 20:48, 25 June 2025 (UTC) |
Which image should be used for the infobox of the article? 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 15:36, 18 June 2025 (UTC) |
Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Capital letters
RFCBEFORE: Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Capital letters#It is time we talked about Google Ngram Discussion at RSN: Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Google N-grams and 'consistent' answers Should Google Ngram be deprecated in rename/move discussions?
@Cinderella157, Dicklyon, Sammy D III, Myceteae, Gawaon, Andy Dingley, Intothatdarkness, SchreiberBike, Hawkeye7, Blueboar, Rally Wonk, Stepwise Continuous Dysfunction, FactOrOpinion, NatGertler, Yesterday, all my dreams..., Randy Kryn, Chicdat, AjaxSmack, SMcCandlish, and Kowal2701: Pinging participants in the MOS:CAPS discussion, the RSN discussion, and those who might be interested in this RfC. I also left an rfc notice at Village Pump (policy), WikiProject English Language, WP:NCCAPS. If I forgot someone, I am terribly sorry. TurboSuperA+(connect) 13:58, 16 June 2025 (UTC) |