Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 October 1#Sue Dokes

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 18:41, 10 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Facebook&Instagram: → Graduation2020  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Proposing to delete as too ambigious target per other probable usage, and also the wording structure. Respublik (talk) 23:34, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. This was apparently the original name of the target when it was created back in July 2020, before it was moved to its current title by an admin. But I agree that it is too ambiguous, and it should've been suppressed while performing the move. CycloneYoris ^talk! 23:46, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:48, 2 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. Drunk Experiter (Kanni, she/her) (talk) 18:13, 2 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom and CycloneYoris. And to the extent there are other plausible targets, there are WP:XY issues and this is a non-standard way to write "Facebook and Instagram". --MYCETEAE 🍄‍🟫—talk 20:47, 2 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: completely unplausible redirect as a non-standard construction with no spaces. 𝔅𝔦𝔰-𝔖𝔢𝔯𝔧𝔢𝔱𝔞? 19:56, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

comment: whatever it is there's an xy to it Oreocooke (talk) 02:33, 9 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 18:23, 9 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Saba Nayagan (upcoming film) → Saba Nayagan  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Released in 2023. No incoming links in the article space. Minimal page views. Steel1943 (talk) 21:25, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nomination. If I could db-author it, I would. Wikishovel (talk) 21:44, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. Katiedevi (talk) 21:48, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. Not an upcoming film anymore. Thanks, 1isall (talk | contribs) 23:35, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:49, 2 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. Drunk Experiter (Kanni, she/her) (talk) 18:18, 2 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 18:24, 9 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Cadtro Daughter (Upcoming Film) → Castro's Daughter  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Target film hasn't been released yet, but ... what an unlikely misspelling of "Castro" ... Cadtro??? Steel1943 (talk) 21:02, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. Katiedevi (talk) 21:49, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:49, 2 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Weirdly specific typo. Drunk Experiter (Kanni, she/her) (talk) 18:18, 2 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: a plausible-ish typo (as d and s are close to each other on most keyboards) but the capitalisation of the words in parentheses makes it rather useless. 𝔅𝔦𝔰-𝔖𝔢𝔯𝔧𝔢𝔱𝔞? 19:18, 8 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 18:27, 9 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• State 1 → Delaware  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• State 2 → Pennsylvania  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• State 3 → New Jersey  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• State 4 → Georgia (U.S. state)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• State 5 → Connecticut  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• State 6 → Massachusetts  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Refers to order of creation of US states. Can be ambiguous, as not all states are US states. I am bad at usernames (talk | contribs) 20:54, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete ... and not all states have anything to do with geography, politics, or history. Steel1943 (talk) 21:03, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete all per nom and Steel. --MYCETEAE 🍄‍🟫—talk 21:20, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete all as vague --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:49, 2 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, too Americentric. Drunk Experiter (Kanni, she/her) (talk) 18:17, 2 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete all per nom and above, vague terms indeed. ArthananWarcraft (talk) 18:29, 2 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete this doesn't seem to be discussed much in the articles and the precise terms don't appear at all and there are probably other states with these numbers just like in England just like 39 District 1s were created by The English Non-Metropolitan Districts (Names) Order 1973. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:50, 2 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Honestly surprised that these were not already taken up be some other article. Gives off music album vibes. ✶Quxyz✶ (talk) 02:21, 3 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, unlikely search term and too broad Shocksingularity (talk) 19:34, 4 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. We don't have State 7. And State 8 is its own page. But we don't have State 9, State 10, and so forth as far as I know. Thanks, 1isall (he/him) (talk | contribs) 23:54, 5 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete all: the current setup is Americentrism at its finest, and I don't think mass-dabifying is a practical solution for either editors or readers. Left guide (talk) 04:23, 8 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 18:28, 9 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Genus labeo → Labeo dyocheilus  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This was presented in a previous revision of Faunal diversity in Pilibhit tiger reserve as if it were a common name for Labeo dyocheilus. That is just a misconception on the part of the editor who created the article. I guess the redirect could be retargeted to the article about the genus Labeo, but the redirect is miscapitalized and seems an unlikely search term. Plantdrew (talk) 20:26, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. Redirects of the type 'genus X' are unnecessary and this is miscapitalized to boot. --MYCETEAE 🍄‍🟫—talk 21:25, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:50, 2 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 18:29, 9 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Indian river shada → Gudusia chapra  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Misspelling of Indian river shad, seems to have been created solely to link from Faunal diversity in Pilibhit tiger reserve (but spelling there has now been corrected) Plantdrew (talk) 20:22, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete, obviously a corrected spelling error. Not a common misspelling - likely a typo, a slip of the fingers since 'a' and 'd' are close together. Drunk Experiter (Kanni, she/her) (talk) 20:31, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 18:30, 9 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• No TV and no beer make Homer something something → Treehouse of Horror V  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• You go squish now! → Treehouse of Horror V  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

While the phrase "No TV and no beer make Homer go crazy" does appear in the target article, the word "something" does not appear in the target article. Also adding You go squish now! as another unmentioned redirect to the same article. 88.97.192.42 (talk) 16:11, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete both. The redirect "No TV and no beer make Homer go crazy" should be made instead. Drunk Experiter (Kanni, she/her) (talk) 20:20, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 04:56, 2 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 18:31, 9 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Sue Dokes → Treehouse of Horror III  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No mentions of this name at the target article. 88.97.192.42 (talk) 16:00, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. Extremely minor character with little screentime. This isn't a Fandom wiki. Drunk Experiter (Kanni, she/her) (talk) 20:11, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per Drunk Experiter --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:59, 2 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Retarget #2, delete the rest. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 20:27, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Ralsei Smoking a Fat Blunt → Deltarune  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• GOD FUCKING damnit KRIS where the FUCK are we!?GOD FUCKING damnit KRIS where the FUCK are we!? → Deltarune  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Doobie Ralsei → Deltarune  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• With you in the dark → Deltarune  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Pluey → Deltarune  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Your taking too long → Deltarune#Chapter 4 – Prophecy  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Deltagoon → Deltarune  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Waltz of Seccom Masada → Deltarune  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Unmentioned. 1234qwer1234qwer4 09:09, 20 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. With no context of why one is redirected there, these redirects for non-notable whatevers are confusing. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:38, 21 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• retarget the second one to kris (deltarune) where it's mentioned, the last one to toby fox (while it's connected to deltarune in the same way as megalovania is to undertale, i refuse to elaborate, this one is actually more tied to yume nikki, i also refuse to elaborate), and then delete all but the second one per nom. yes, this means retargeting something and then immediately deleting it, but that's just the kind of stuff that happens when something is targeted based on recentism~ consarn _{(grave) (obituary)} 18:22, 25 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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nah, i don't think this needed a relist. it seems all but one of them would've been deleted, and that one could've just been renominated (if not retargeted). g3 deltagoon, by the way consarn _{(talck) (contirbuton s)} 15:06, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That's fair, but I gave it a courtesy relist to give others the opportunity to discuss that redirect if desired. -- Tavix ^(talk) 15:49, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget the second one, delete the others per consarn. 88.97.192.42 (talk) 15:47, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all Wikipedia is not a meme directory. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 21:00, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget the second one to Kris (Deltarune) and delete the rest. I agree with consarn. Thanks, 1isall (talk | contribs) 12:51, 2 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget #2, Delete the rest per @consarn. However, I would move Redirect #2 to be formatted/capitalised as "God FUCKING DAMMIT Kris where the FUCK are we", the same as it is in the Kris (Deltarune) article and the Polygon article used as reference. Drunk Experiter (Kanni, she/her) (talk) 15:36, 2 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  i was just gonna create that one as well lol consarn _{(talck) (contirbuton s)} 15:39, 2 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete all per above, including #2 which I don't think is a likely search term and is trivial on the page, sourced only to an editorial about someone's favorites memes. This is not how people are going to read about Deltarune. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 06:35, 3 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Your taking too long, delete Deltagoon and Ralsei Smoking a Fat Blunt. No opinion on the others. (Oh and since consarn wouldn't elaborate, Waltz of Seccom Masada is a piece of Yume Nikki fan music Toby Fox made that's used in Deltarune in the secret egg rooms. no clue if that's mentioned in any sources) Ringtail Raider (talk) 02:11, 4 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• comment while consarn refused to elaborate on why Waltz of Seccom Masada / man theme is more related to yume nikki, i will not refuse. it (and the 8 bit version / mancountry) comes from a thing titled "made up yumme nikkis" Oreocooke (talk) 02:32, 4 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  actually i lied this isnt entirely a comment delete deltagoon as unworthy Oreocooke (talk) 02:32, 4 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep #8, Delete the rest of them. Nobody is searching any of those things to find Deltarune. Maybe re-target #8 to Toby Fox? I don't have a strong opinion on that one. I don't think there's a section on either page that really mentions the song. The ideal place would be Music of Deltarune if it had a section for unlisted songs, but I doubt there are enough sources to include them. threeqc (talk) 14:56, 4 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget #2 to Kris (Deltarune) and #8 to Toby Fox, Keep #5 for now as at least an at least somewhat notable feature (i found multiple articles [1] [2] [3] from a quick search, so it's hard to see much of a problem with it), Delete rest per above, and also some additional reasoning: #1 and #3 are for a singular internet meme that is both unmentioned and unreferenced. #4 is an incomplete "quote", so it couldn't possibly be much useful. #6 isn't that useful, and/as the "quote" is usually stylized in ALL CAPS anyway (as "shown" here and here). #7 is just stupid. Oreocooke (talk • contribs) 06:45, 5 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  alternatively, another, more theoretical option for #5 could be to retarget to List of Undertale and Deltarune characters § Exclusive to Deltarune, but a section would have to be made for Mike, the character(s) #5 pertains to. Oreocooke (talk) 05:39, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• pinging every real person who has participated this month to facilitate discussion. Tavix consarn OhNoitsJamie 1sall Drunk Experiter Utopes Ringtail Raider threeqc, and simultaneously most/least importantly, Oreocooke Template:Disappear text (sent@05:49, 6 October 2025 (UTC))[reply]

  What is the purpose of this ping? (I maintain my "delete all" !vote, including on #5, as "Pluey" is not mentioned anywhere on Wikipedia). Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 05:54, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  I also maintain my !vote in its entirety. #2 is mentioned in text, #5 is a niche meme-ish minigame and unmentioned (I oppose mentioning Pluey in article text, Wikipedia is not Fandom and you'd be very hard pressed to find reliable sources mentioning Mike), #8 is an old, niche song and unmentioned. So my vote to retarget #2 and delete the rest stays. Drunk Experiter (she/her) (talk) 06:03, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Discussion on what? Ringtail Raider (talk) 06:54, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  ¿nani? consarn _{(talck) (contirbuton s)} 10:47, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete all except #2 per consarn. Redirects from mentioned aspects are useful. Redirects from unmentioned aspects are not. QuicoleJR (talk) 15:45, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• i have yet another idea: keep(/retarget) #2 ,and only #2, per above, as while all of these are nice, most of them most likely are not yet ready to be implemented. the rest can be deleted for all i care but if anyone cares about a particular one i wouldn't be opposed to them userdraftiying it Oreocooke the tired (talk) 23:29, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete all per Utopes. The only one that's mentioned anywhere is not a plausible search term.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 06:11, 10 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Procedural close. RfD is the wrong forum for this, as it is essentially a move request for the target page. I have started the RM at Talk:Donald_Trump/Other_Trump_articles#Requested move 2 October 2025. (non-admin closure) Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 16:06, 2 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Wikipedia:TRUMPOTAWikipedia:TRUMPOTA → Talk:Donald Trump/Other Trump articles  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Talk:Donald Trump/Other Trump articles should be moved to Talk:Donald Trump/Other Donald Trump articles to become a WP:CONSISTENT title, and Wikipedia:TRUMPOTA should be redirected there accordingly. John Smith Ri (talk) 13:52, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Support. No objection from the editor who chose the current title. It makes the "OTA" in the shortcut less accurate, but meh. ―Mandruss ☎ IMO. 13:56, 1 October 2025 (UTC) Steel1943 is persuasive. ―Mandruss ☎ IMO. 14:27, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Wrong forum. This is a move request. The nominated redirect would then be corrected by default as a double redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 14:16, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Procedural close; wrong venue per Steel1943. 88.97.192.42 (talk) 15:49, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Left guide (talk) 14:36, 8 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• List of Saban FilmsList of Saban Films → Saban Films#Filmography  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

The redirect may not be useful as it was moved to the correct title before its contents were merged into the target indicated. I calling for deletion! Intrisit (talk) 13:30, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak keep. At worst, it's a helpful and possibly unambiguous {{R from incorrect name}}. Odds of readers being confused when reaching this redirect's current target is virtually nonexistent. I'm "weak" since there could potentially be another list of films related to "Saban" (such as a list of films by a subsidiary), and if so the redirect would be ambiguous ... but I have not been successful at finding any such other list. To clarify, do not delete. Steel1943 (talk) 17:09, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. It took me a moment to figure out what the error is even supposed to be here. While List of Saban Films films or possibly List of Saban films would be more accurate, the redirect is entirely plausible. Of course, dabify or re-nominate if it turns out this is ambiguous. --MYCETEAE 🍄‍🟫—talk 14:55, 3 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per above - it has its place. Drunk Experiter (she/her) (talk) 16:26, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep useful and harmless. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 19:30, 6 October 2025 (UTC).[reply]
  

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Japanese carpentry#Tools. (non-admin closure) Left guide (talk) 04:27, 8 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Kiridashi (knife)Kiridashi (knife) → Knife#Tools  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

mentioned in passing and linked in kiridashi, but the mention is unsourced. you'd think that's where it ends, but my suggestion will actually be to return to red, since i found a couple results. if needed, i can leave my findings here, but there's every chance they'll end up being pretty underwhelming consarn _{(grave) (obituary)} 16:38, 16 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• I've added a {{cn}} at the target. Japanese carpentry § Tools is a better target, though the source there is an unverified youtube channel. Jay 💬 06:01, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Retarget to Japanese carpentry § Tools per Jay. I've added a citation for kiridashi knives to the page which is at least better than the YouTube video. Katiedevi (talk) 22:06, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Narcissism#Levels. (non-admin closure) Thepharoah17 (talk) 07:18, 8 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Unhealthy narcissismUnhealthy narcissism → Narcissistic personality disorder  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Unhealthy narcissism is unclear in regards to what exactly it refers to. It currently redirects to Narcissistic personality disorder, which is indeed a possible target; however, it is fully possible to conceptualize manifestations of "general" narcissism unhealthy. Furthermore, NPD and narcissism are not the same, and NPD is not merely a severe subtype of narcissism, but a specific personality disorder in categorical models (in which PDs are understood as distinct entities). There is arguably the possible for non-PD narcissism to still be unhealthy in one way or another, even perhaps within the course of other mental health pathology or PD which technically does not meet criteria for NPD specifically. As this redirect is not utilized in articles anyway, I propose its deletion. All reliable non-ambiguous sources will specify whether NPD is the specific matter, and thus it shall also be referred to as such on Wikipedia. BlockArranger (talk) 20:38, 23 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• I agree the current target is inappropriate. There is also the article Healthy narcissism; the word unhealthy appears only once on the page. "Unhealthy narcissism" appears in sources I found online but I'm not sure whether this is appropriate to add to an existing article. It might be synonymous with Narcissism#Destructive levels of narcissism I don't know enough to make that call. --MYCETEAE 🍄‍🟫—talk 17:34, 24 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  We actually have "Destructive narcissism", which redirects there. Perhaps unhealthy narcissism should merely be put in relationship to healthy narcissism...? In general, several of these concepts related to narcissism probably exist largely due to the hype about narcissism in popular culture, which does not reflect the systematic approach that is to be utilized in Wikipedia. BlockArranger (talk) 19:15, 25 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Weak retarget to Narcissism#Levels for now. Healthy narcissism would be my second choice. I'm not familiar enough with this area to know what content might be added to either target to address "unhealthy narcissism" more directly but I'm confident that NPD is too narrow. --MYCETEAE 🍄‍🟫—talk 23:15, 25 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  I guess that levels is the better of the two for now, so that individuals who use the redirect get the context for unhealthy manifestations of narcissism, rather than merely the opposite, healthy narcissism. This can be discussed again if anyone thinks the solution is inadequate. BlockArranger (talk) 08:21, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate. (non-admin closure) Left guide (talk) 03:49, 8 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• California Sober → F-1 Trillion  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

There's some history in logs, but there appear to be two songs by this name — one in Dancing with the Devil... the Art of Starting Over and another in F-1 Trillion. Unclear which of these, if either, is the primary topic or if this should be dabified. Tol (talk | contribs) @ 04:09, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment If DABified, there is also a Billy Strings/Willie Nelson song by the same title from 2023 that was nominated for Grammy Award for Best American Roots Song, although I cannot figure out a good article to incorporate that into the DAB. Casablanca 🪨^(T) 13:16, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Disambiguate. I started a draft disambiguation page below the redirect. There's a mention of the California Sober method at Recovery model, but it's not defined there, plus there's also a draft article at Draft:California sober. - Eureka Lott 15:25, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Dabify go for it Eureka! All the best: Rich Farmbrough 19:38, 6 October 2025 (UTC).[reply]
  

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Yoon Do-hyun#Discography. (non-admin closure) Left guide (talk) 09:54, 5 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Being a Rock StarBeing a Rock Star → Lemon Demon  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned at target, but a different song with this title is listed at Yoon Do-hyun... 1234qwer1234qwer4 23:11, 23 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Delete or retarget?
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Retarget to Yoon Do-hyun#Discography --MYCETEAE 🍄‍🟫—talk 02:45, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget per above. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 06:47, 5 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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