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Mind control in popular culture

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99% of this is unreferenced list of examples that fails WP:IPC/MOS:TRIVIA. The cited RS (Greenwood) is a passing mention (as quoted) from Greenwood section on "Hypnosis". As such, I suggest the referenced content is merged to the currently just-as-poor article on Hypnosis in works of fiction. The latter appears notable (see [1]), if in need of rewrite bordering on WP:TNT). I may do the latter, turning it into a stub, based on Greenwood and SFE, but that's for later. For now, unless anyone can find RS to save the article here ("mind control in popular culture"), I think merge and redirect to the Hypnosis in works of fiction is the best ATD per WP:PRESERVE (although given the terrible state of both articles, frankly, TNT-ing them both is also an option). _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:52, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Characters of the Star Fox series

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A list of characters from the Star Fox series. Per WP:LISTN, subjects in lists need the overarching topic to meet notability guidelines, but there is little to no discussion of Star Fox characters as a set; the only discussion I can find are either scattered pieces of development info, or reception pertaining to specific characters (Namely Fox McCloud, who already has a separate article). Much of this list in question is comprised of one-off or two-off characters, who can easily be covered at their respective game articles; the core "recurring" cast (Namely the main Star Fox team, the main Star Wolf team, General Pepper, Krystal, and Andross) can easily be merged into Star Fox with little issue, especially once their plot summaries are trimmed down. This article on its own does not meet notability guidelines, and is better contained within its parent article. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 23:14, 10 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements, Science fiction and fantasy, Video games, Lists, and Japan. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 23:14, 10 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Demonstrates passing of WP:LISTN. Nintendo World Report, IGN, Eurogamer all have decently significant mentions, and Retro Gamer puts the final nail in the coffin with regards to this list's notability. This is a WP:SURMOUNTABLE issue and AfD is not cleanup, nor is it for merging articles willy-nilly in lieu of actually improving them. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 02:14, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Zxcvbnm Eurogamer seems to be pretty small beyond "fans made fan art". Retro Gamer is pure plot summary. IGN and NWR are decent, but are only discussing the core "four" Star Fox team members of Fox, Falco, Peppy, and Slippy as a group; the overall series characters aren't being discussed, only the Star Fox team. If anything this lends credence to this subset being notable, not the wider topic of characters as a whole. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 02:20, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's certainly arguable that the Star Fox team is notable instead of the series' characters. I would not oppose a move to Star Fox (fictional organization) or something along those lines, I simply oppose wholesale deletion or merging. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 02:24, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I would say that such an article could be called Team Star Fox, as this is a term used in official media and gets across what it is more gracefully than a disambig. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 02:48, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'd have to concur with the naming convention; I am curious about a potential "Team Star Fox" as an alternative to this list, which would retain a lot of the major sourced info from this current list. I'll do some digging tomorrow and leave my findings here. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 04:13, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per the claims of @Zxcvbnm: and create a Team Star Fox Team as well. --Rtkat3 (talk) 02:56, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If a Team Star Fox article were created, I'm not sure what the value of the list would be. From what I can see, the only characters with any level of even theoretical notability outside of Team Star Fox would be Wolf and Andross, and two entries doesn't really pass muster for me. Cukie Gherkin (talk) 03:54, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I reject the premise of the nomination: the topic of "Characters of X" is "X" and shares notability with (not inherits notability from) X and can be split from X or merged with X per SIZE or NOPAGE as needed. Even so, the GNG is still met the sources listed above. Jclemens (talk) 04:10, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Notability is not Wikipedia:INHERITED, and Wikipedia is Wikipedia:NOTPLOT; if this isn't discussed critically by secondary sources, it shouldn't be split off, which is what LISTN specifies in the first place. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 04:12, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, is your argument that character lists are inherently notable if the series is notable? Cukie Gherkin (talk) 04:24, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. IF kept this needs to be renamed to List of Star Fox characters. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:55, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Red Torpedo

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Another niche superhero, barely beyond a stub, from the former List of Earth-Two characters. As usual, here goes another plot summary+publication history, with zero reception/analysis, and as usual, I'd suggest redirect to List of DC Comics characters: R. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 14:03, 10 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep or merge with List of DC Comics characters: R in the spirit of WP:PRESERVE. --Rtkat3 (talk) 02:57, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Full-Blast Science Adventure – So That's How It Is

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Unreferenced article since its creation in 2011. Didn't found any reviews by its English or Japanese titles.

There's a 4-page interview in Paletta magazine: [2]. There's a little bit of description of the series at the top and bottom of page 22 but not enough to qualify as significant coverage (no analysis, other than calling the two girls cute). Suggesting redirect to OLM (studio)#TV series per WP:ATD. Mika1h (talk) 14:07, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Red Room (comics)

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A fictional location tied to the lore of the Natasha Romanova character. A source search yields few sources discussing the Red Room directly, only mentioning it in conjunction with the lore of the character or in summaries/analysis of the Black Widow (2021 film) movie. No independent notability from the subject that I can find. I'd suggest a redirect as an ATD to Romanova given its ties to her character. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 21:15, 5 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Not notable on its own. Already mentioned plenty on pages about black widow. Could create a specific subsection in an articel about the character if absolutely necessary Anonrfjwhuikdzz (talk) 22:09, 5 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Will see if I can locate more sources, but in the meantime it could always be merged into Features of the Marvel Universe#Other locations. BOZ (talk) 01:45, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep or merge with the other locations section of Features of the Marvel Universe in the spirit of WP:PRESERVE. --Rtkat3 (talk) 02:34, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Has the Google Scholar search been included in the WP:BEFORE search? I would always recommend that (in general but especially) for comic related topics. There has been quite a bit of scholarship in recent decades. Specifically here, "Ballerina with PTSD: imagining Russia in contemporary Black Widow comics", "Beyond the Red Room: Cold War II, Genre and Feminism in Marvel Studios’ Black Widow", and to a lesser degree "An Analysis of Black Widow (2021): Marvel’s Most Feminist Film Features Powerful Sisters and an Attenuated Male" all have content relating the Red Room to the character of Black Widow, but also analysis of the symbolism of the Red Room as such, in various comics and the MCU film, respectively. These are all hits from only the first page of the Google Scholar search. Daranios (talk) 09:59, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"Feminist Quest Heroine: Female Superheroines and Deconstruction of Male Heroism" is another article which has brief but distinct analysis of the Red Room as such. Although again of the version depicted in the Black Widow film. Daranios (talk) 15:21, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Much of this is what I mean in the nom by the 2021 film's coverage. Much of it is analysis toward the film overall, with little focused on the Room in particular, at least from what I can access. Correct me if I'm wrong though. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 16:11, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Pokelego999: Based on the comics' version from "Ballerina with PTSD": "The dangers of Soviet Russia and its ideological successor become visible in the storyline of the Red Room, which reappears in all of the issues analysed in this article." "The absence of individual difference suggests that the Red Room training facility dehumanised the girls to form them into merciless weapons. The colouring..." "The Red Room is a metaphor for communist Russia, and the information that it is somewhere on the territory of current Russia (Waid, Samnee, and Wilson 2016) suggests the successor country wants to reinstate a version of Soviet authoritarianism." "The Red Room in this duality ... is a reference to the historic Cold War culture that manifested not only in an arms race race between Russia and the USA but also..." "The microcosm of the Red Room stands in for Russia as country and location, where bad forces have taken over... This new Russia, clearly, has to be freed and brought back on the track of Americanisation in terms of morals and values."

The others based on the film: "Beyond the Red Room": "... the Red Room emerges as a signifier of patriarchal power and the exploitation of girls within the parameters of Cold War espionage..." "The visual language of the Red Room itself, characterized by the spectacle of violence and control over girls’ bodies, presents a reframing of Cold War anxieties regarding mind control and national security, as they shift into anxieties about female vulnerability." "In this sense, the Red Room, while it is embedded in Cold War II anxieties about ‘Eastern’ oppressors versus ‘Western’ liberators..." From "Feminist Quest Heroine": "Red Room stands as a glaring testament to the manner in which patriarchal systems strip women of their agency and individuality, reducing them to commodities..." Daranios (talk) 15:17, 9 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge- with the other locations section of Features of the Marvel Universe is a sensible ATD for me, as to expand the context of the target article, also any more info not already available be merged to the Natasha Romanova page about the same location as well, given Daranios contributions of more SIGCOV citations can be added in to support notability of the location.Lorraine Crane (talk) 22:36, 8 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep or merge. I am not quite sure how the respective Wikiprojects like to handle things in such a case of borderline notability between the comic and MCU versions, if it is preferred to put the secondary sources together to establish notability for the parent, cross-media topic, or to keep them separate and put non-notable topics which are discussed in secondary sources into the different lists. In my non-exhaustive search for sources I've seen the one serious discussion of the comics version in "Ballerina with PTSD". The other listed publications discuss the Red Room of the MCU. But all of them have something to say about the Red Room which is not specifically linked to either the medium or the character of Black Widow. So if things are kept separate, the content should be merged and split between Black Widow (Natasha Romanova) and Features of the Marvel Universe#Other locations (and Black Widow (2021 film), Natasha Romanoff (Marvel Cinematic Universe) and Features of the Marvel Cinematic Universe#Earth). Daranios (talk) 15:17, 9 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

X610Z

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I'm working on the unreferenced article backlog. I couldn't find any sources covering this game whatsoever, whether through WP:TWL or through a more general search. It seems like a direct WP:GNG failure. Silver seren^C 05:39, 4 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: I don't know if it will make a difference, but a later version of the game was called Existenz: On the Ruins of Chaos[3] and the publisher Quantuum Magic is a Dutch company so there could be other language sources. BOZ (talk) 07:31, 4 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom, lack of coverage in reliable sources as per the Google News, Books and Scholar links above. PhilKnight (talk) 23:25, 4 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
comment Dice tower is a reliable source [4]. I'm not finding anything else that is. Hobit (talk) 03:50, 5 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Article PROD'd many years ago so Soft deletion is not an option.
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Beyond Jericho

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Article that's unreferenced for years, didn't found significant coverage, fails WP:GNG. Suggesting redirect to Jericho (2006 TV series)#Beyond Jericho per WP:ATD. Mika1h (talk) 11:38, 2 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect. I can't find sources to meet WP:GNG. The article was created when this was planned to be an ongoing web series, but Beyond Jericho was cancelled after a single episode that seems to have garnered little media attention. Rjjⁱⁱⁱ (talk) 16:05, 9 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Jericho (2006 TV series) if sources can be found; delete otherwise. Tioaeu8943 (talk) 18:11, 9 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Luke Smith (The Sarah Jane Adventures)

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A character from The Sarah Jane Adventures. Barring mentions in plot summary of the franchise, the only analysis mentioning Luke in a significant manner is in discussion of Sarah Jane Smith as a mother figure, but this is discussion of Sarah Jane's role as a parent, not of Luke's character. Beyond that, all of the discussion is either dev info (Which, while valuable, is largely PRIMARY and does not contribute to notability) or plot information, which also does not contribute to notability. I would suggest a redirect/merge to The Sarah Jane Adventures, where the series' characters are discussed in tandem with the series' overall development. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 00:51, 2 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep The discussion of the character's sexuality and the change of his storyline development show GNG and make him worthy of his own article. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 01:13, 2 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@DaniloDaysOfOurLives this is all development information reported from PRIMARY sources, such as interviews or official media for the series. None of it is SIGCOV, such as analysis or reception, relating to the storyline. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 02:28, 2 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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@Pokelego999: This DigitalSpy article and Doctor Who - A Cultural History, p. 147, are a secondary sources on the topic, although relatively brief ones. More significant is the SFX article (badly) linked in the article. I does go off some quotes from interviews, but goes into commentary from there. Any reason this should not be a reliable independent source? And just for record-keeping, Being a Girl with The Doctor, p. 160-161, does have something to say on Luke's character, but mostly in relation to Sarah Jane as you've described. Daranios (talk) 10:23, 2 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The Digital Spy is purely plot summary of the character and mention of the actor's later roles; there's no discussion of the character here, while Cultural History is one sentence in a massive section about another character, with the same applying to the Being a Girl source. I did in fact miss the SFX source, and that one is a really strong piece, but beyond that I'm not sure the meat is there as a separate split. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 15:38, 2 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per nom. The sources do not suffice. The details of this character's WP:PLOT are covered in relation to Sarah Jane Smith, which is a good redirect target per WP:ATD. If there is more to say, it can be expanded there. Shooterwalker (talk) 15:42, 8 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: No consensus here and two different redirect target articles proposed, one to a character and the other to a TV series.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:32, 9 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge or keep. So I guess with one strong source and several supporting ones, a merge sounds like a good solution. I don't really know where to best put that, though. To Sarah Jane Smith, treating the character within his adoptive mother's article analogous to the example on living persons of WP:ATD-M? Or to The Sarah Jane Adventures? Cast and crew? Critical response? I would also be fine with keeping the article, which clearly is not a stub, in case this leaves the topic's treatment more readable. Daranios (talk) 15:00, 9 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Science fiction and fantasy proposed deletions

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