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I spotted a DEFAULSORT conflict at 320 BC that was caused by {{Births and deaths by year for decade}} transcluding the DEFAULTSORT and category from 326 BC. This was because there was no section header after Births. I added an empty References section as a workaround, but this issue should be adressed. This problem will reoccur whenever a page has no appendices, and therefore no level 2 section headers following Births. Paradoctor (talk) 15:22, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Made a proposal at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Millenniumbox#Proposed_Change, if anyone has any comments I welcome them, if not I'll switch over in a few days. Froglegseternal (talk) 10:30, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I'm raising this issue here because this is something that affects a large number of articles. I'm talking about articles like 1980 in music and 2000 in music. These articles commonly have a "Births" section that I believe to be nothing more than listcruft. The problems with these sections are threefold.

• There is no criteria established for limiting whose births should be listed. There are thousands of musical artists who were born in any given year and we cannot list them all. The articles start by saying it includes notable events. But who decides whose birth is notable? It seems it is entirely up to the opinion of the contributing editor. Consequently the list fills with relative nobodies and those whose relationship to music is tenuous.

• The significance of their births to the specified year in music is zero. None of the people listed in these sections had any impact on music during the year, and their birth tells the reader nothing about music in the year. As "notable events", they passed totally unnoticed by all except their families.

• The usefulness of the list is highly questionable. Does anyone care that these people are similar age? Does it tell the reader anything useful? The fact that there aren't similar categories tells us just how significant or useful such a list is.

I would like to suggest these sections are either removed from the articles, or how they are made up is radically rethought. Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 15:31, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I would raise this at a village pump, as the same applies to "year in" articles for many other topics. Apart from royalty / nobility, no births are important for that year. Fram (talk) 15:37, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please see Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Proposal: Reimplement the births and deaths in the pages after 1980. In addition to the title question, there are also questions about the inclusion criteria for the births and deaths section for older years (e.g. 1901). Thryduulf (talk) 10:09, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The article Year of three popes has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

WP:SYNTH: the only reliable source using the term "Year of the Three Popes" refers to a specific year, 1978, all other years listed in this article are verified by a reference to encyclopedic articles about individual popes. Wikipedia:Notability: no reliable sources are cited to verify that the topic is notable; a book about a specific year cannot verify the existence of an article about multiple years.

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