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Q1: Why isn't there more criticism of Sarkeesian or her work?
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Active Years
[edit]Anita Sarkeesian | |
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Born | 1983 (age 41–42)[1] |
Nationality | Canadian-American[2] |
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YouTube information | |
Years active | 2009–present |
Genre | Commentary |
Subscribers | 213 thousand |
Views | 33.7 million |
Last updated: August 1, 2023 | |
Website | www |
Pinging @Sangdeboeuf and JeffSpaceman: I saw your reversions and figured we should discuss it here especially since this page has Contentious Topics measures in place. The "Years active" section in the infobox (copied here for reference) specifically refers to the YouTube channel feministfrequency and is under the "YouTube information" section of the box. Its "About" page links to the official Feminist Frequency websites and social media only, not Sarkeesian's personal website or social media. The channel is specifically part of the FF organization, not Sarkeesian's personal channel (I don't think she has one of her own that I can find, unlike other social media where there is one for her and one for the organization).
Given that, we should either consider the channel to be part of the shutdown of FF organization and mark that in "Years active" for the Youtube channel, or alternatively remove the youtube from the infobox entirely as it is not used by the BLP subject directly. Thoughts? The WordsmithTalk to me 16:07, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- @The Wordsmith: I think that we should remove YouTube from the infobox, given that as you note, it is not directly used by Sarkeesian. Thus, we can keep the years active as running through the present. I don't know if I was looking right at the YouTube information section, I merely thought it was talking about her activity in the world of media criticism, hence why I changed it to "2009-present." I think removing YouTube from the infobox would probably be our best bet here. JeffSpaceman (talk) 16:19, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- Agreed, "years active" is ambiguous in a biography of a person, since it could seem at first glance to refer to the person or their website, blog, YouTube channel, etc. I understood "years active" to refer to Sarkeesian herself. In any case, the latest video was posted a little over a month ago, so it seems premature to call the channel inactive. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 21:08, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Anita Sarkeesian". Virtual International Authority File. Retrieved March 16, 2016.
- ^ Greenhouse, Emily (August 1, 2013). "Twitter's Free Speech Problem". The New Yorker. Retrieved March 24, 2014.
English templates
[edit]I have a general question: should we consider using either the {{Use Canadian English}} template or the {{Use American English}} template in this article, since the subject was born in Canada but identifies herself as Canadian-American? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 05:23, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
No discussion is taking place, so I'm implementing the {{Use American English}} template for now unless someone objects. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:27, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
Kickstarter link
[edit]Apparently, the Kickstarter citation is on a spam blacklist when I tried adding archive links to the other citations to prevent any future link rot. Should the Kickstarter link be removed? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:24, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- With the caveat that the spam blacklist is so not my thing, I know you can get individual URLs from blacklisted sites placed on the Wikipedia:Whitelist. Maybe worth a trip to its talkpage, @Sjones23? GreenLipstickLesbian💌🦋 17:47, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Hmm, maybe so. According to WP:RSP:
Kickstarter is a crowdfunding website specializing in funding for new works of fiction. As a primary source, it should usually be avoided for topics involving crowdfunding campaigns where better sources are available. The 2020 RfC gained a consensus for Kickstarter to be placed on the Wikipedia spam blacklist; links must be whitelisted before they can be used.
Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:51, 8 April 2025 (UTC)- I remember the kickstarter caused a lot of RS discussion at the time. It's often better to say: "The New Yorker reported..." or "The Daily Beast described the situation as..." and use the reliable secondaries to detail the event. BusterD (talk) 18:02, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Found a book discussing it
GreenLipstickLesbian💌🦋 09:36, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
- Good call. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 04:20, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
- Found a book discussing it
- I remember the kickstarter caused a lot of RS discussion at the time. It's often better to say: "The New Yorker reported..." or "The Daily Beast described the situation as..." and use the reliable secondaries to detail the event. BusterD (talk) 18:02, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- Hmm, maybe so. According to WP:RSP: