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This would be for when track lengths are unknown or irrelevant. For example, in Fuck (2005 film) § Track listing, the track lengths are not included because they would be pointless and distracting, but the "Length" column header remains frustratingly visible. I am unfamiliar with Lua, so I cannot make an exact edit request for this. –CopperyMarrow15 (talk ⋅ edits) 22:23, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

From the template's documentation: This template is an optional way to organize track listings in articles about albums and singles. Does that film even have a soundtrack album? If it does, the track lengths should be sourced from the album, or from a site listing the contents of the album. If there is no soundtrack album that can be sourced, the section should be removed as WP:OR. The whole section containing the track listing is unreferenced. I don't think it's a good example to use for a request to change this template's code. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:14, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

MOS:FILMMUSIC says: A soundtrack may refer to [...] a collection of prerecorded songs compiled for the film. [...] For collections of prerecorded songs, a track listing can be presented to identify the songs and their artists. The {{Track listing}} template can be used for this presentation. I assume that a tracklist of prerecorded songs can be sourced from the film itself, in the same way that a plot summary or a cast list can, but I'm not sure. I'll be honest: I wasn't expecting a Featured Article to have such a mistake, so I just assumed that the tracklist is fine. I would ask the article's main author Cirt for input, but it looks like they're blocked.

Regardless, I still think that being able to hide the "Length" column header might be useful in some situations. Consider, for example, a film that uses a set of ancient hymns as its background soundtrack, and that although this soundtrack was never released as an album, sufficient sources exist for the tracklist to be included on Wikipedia. In this hypothetical case, it wouldn't make sense to include a "Length" column in the tracklist. –CopperyMarrow15 (talk ⋅ edits) 03:52, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The tracklist was there when the article was promoted to FA by Ian Rose in November 2013, so I'm pinging him instead. I'm curious what he thinks. –CopperyMarrow15 (talk ⋅ edits) 04:07, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Consider the table, Template parameters at the Description for |collapsed=. It currently includes a sentence beginning with "Use of this category will added the article to" (emphasis mine). This could be modified to "Use of this parameter will add the article to" or "Use of this parameter will have the article added to" (changes bolded).Didier Landner (talk) 22:56, 6 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The documentation is not protected. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:37, 8 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Description of suggested change: How about inplementing arrangements, too? The arranger is often identical with the composer. To mention the arranger here, would avoid the always somewhat awkward listing with the instruments (current e.g. "George Duke – vocals, keyboards, percussion (5), arrangements"), and not seldomly even sorted under production credits (probably ok for productions that are created at the mixing desk (like oftentimes Hip-hop a.o.).

Diff:  Warning Unnamed parameter |1= set to default value. Please change it. Failure to use {{Text diff}} to specify your requested text changes, if not adequately described above, may lead to your request being denied.
MenkinAlRire 21:29, 1 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit template-protected}} template. You could start a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Albums or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Music (but not both to avoid WP:TALKFORK). —⁠andrybak (talk) 23:00, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: Per above and lack of clear diffs. Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 08:10, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"Table captions are required for accessibility" but let's hide them for sighted readers as they add too much redundancy and clutter. We should specify the screen reader only template as a default solution for those times when the headline parameter (the table caption) repeats the section heading immediately above, or in any other case when it is redundant.

A suggested solution would be:

|headline={{sronly|Caption text}}

This hides the caption from sighted readers but retains accessibility for screen readers.

A related RfC is underway at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Tables#RfC: Should data table captions be required only for screen readers?. Feel free to add your thoughts. Binksternet (talk) 16:14, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I support this idea on paper, though I know nothing about accessibility really so if anyone more informed wants to come up with reasons for why this might not work I'm all ears. Popcornfud (talk) 17:46, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I was trying to add a link to the track listing of the soundtrack section on It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia for track 11 ("Singles Soiree" performed by The Rüdiger Piesker Orchestra) since Rüdiger Piesker has a page on the German Wikipedia, but filling the artist field with either

The [[de:Rüdiger Piesker]] Orchestra

or

The [[de:Rüdiger Piesker|Rüdiger Piesker]] Orchestra

result in the entry appearing as "The Orchestra".

Using

[https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%BCdiger_Piesker Rüdiger Piesker]

works fine, but the link shows with the little link is external icon  which is very very slightly suboptimal. one🍪cookie 15:06, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

per H:FOREIGNLINK, the best way to link things is {{interlanguage link|Rüdiger Piesker|de}}, which renders Rüdiger Piesker [de]. Having it denoted this way is important so that it's obvious its a link to a different site/page. >> Lil-unique1 (talk) — 00:25, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Using {{interlanguage link}} is also nice because it automatically switches to use the English Wikipedia article once one has been created. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:45, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]