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Can you add a picture of the CE Python?? Georgia guy (talk) 19:21, 2 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done! OmegaAOL (talk) 21:54, 2 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Google Earth: Switcher added.

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On the infobox, I added a switcher to show both Web and Desktop. Do not over-write it again, as it's still shown on the infobox. The web version is ran on a desktop browser as well, so it's just fair that the web is present. I also used a Windows 10 screenshot instead with the proper, readable, resolution. The Windows 7 one is resized in such a manner, it can barely be read. Paowee (talk) 02:23, 18 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Stop reverting the infobox screenshot for Earth Pro.

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I already uploaded a proper resolution for it, and that resolution meets WP:NFCC guidelines. It also runs on Windows 10. If you really want to keep it there, then upload a proper, minimal resolution, like what I did on the Windows 10 one.

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Also the screenshot cannot be the original resolution. At it's base resolution, resizing it to a good amount is mandatory. 1,291 × 825 is a base resolution. That has to be resized to a good extent. Paowee (talk) 03:22, 26 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I apologise, I thought the Windows 10 screenshot was also compressed. This was a client-side error; I looked at it again and it seems to be at a readable size. OmegaAOL (talk) 13:55, 26 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

September 2025

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I thought that the 19th century ended in 1900. After further research, I seem to have been wrong. You can get where the misunderstanding comes from though right it's not like people were celebrating the dawn of the new century in 2001. Be assured my edits were not vandalism or in the spirit of vandalism but rather misguided. OmegaAOL (talk) 13:47, 26 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Official portrait, 2025

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That thread was due to be auto-archived tomorrow. You just extended that by seven days, and didn't add anything new. Perhaps you would consider removing it? ―Mandruss  2¢ IMO. 04:37, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. OmegaAOL (talk) 04:40, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Preciate cha. ―Mandruss  2¢ IMO. 04:44, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

On the (former) GAN nomination for the Trichy assault rifle

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Hello. Just saw the GAN failed for the article. Currently working on the concerns you mentioned in the review. If they're not, looking for more specific examples. Ominae (talk) 13:54, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! It was an enjoyable article! OmegaAOL (talk) 13:56, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Otherwise, I'll see if I can nominate it again in the next few days. Ominae (talk) 16:39, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sure. The only issue was the copy-editing problem, really. Take care of that and it's a quick pass. OmegaAOL (talk) 16:40, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ood clarification

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Hi, I just wanted to clarify what the issue was grammatically with the rewritten lead? I made alterations because I felt the tone was a bit informal given the subject matter, and still wish to alter the wording a bit for tone, but I wanted to double check with you what issues you felt there were grammatically before I did anything further given your revert on the page.

Also, while I do appreciate the copyedit on the article, I feel some of your edits aren't quite grammatically sound; in particular, you use a lot of em dashes in contexts where commas more than suffice and would be easier to read than em dashes. I've undone a few em dashes I felt were a bit off grammatically, but I've left the bulk in otherwise. If there are any I've removed you've got a particular gripe with let me know, as if I've made a mistake with any of them I am willing to listen to your rationale. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 18:33, 31 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Thanks for the message! Always happy to improve.
I get that em dashes have become.. um.. infamous due to ChatGPT, et cetera. using them profusely, but at the same time you may notice when you look at Featured Articles, they seem to have a much higher amount of em dashes than normal (articles). Seems to indicate that em dashes are a pretty defining trait of high article quality at least on here.
I also use em dashes to break up long sentences that start to become unwieldy for the reader. People tend to focus mentally on one, two sentences at a time, and it confuses and irritates them when you have a lot of comma or semicolon continuations. Em dashes offset this and the human mind treats it as a seperate part, which is one of the reasons why they are used on featured articles, and why ChatGPT—which is so eager to please and convenience the human—makes significant use of them too.
There were no major grammatical issues, mostly prose-styling and the like; that is why I passed you for G.A since grammar seemed to be excellent. I was just OmegaAOL (talk page, and contribs) 21:22, 31 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I will clarify that I wasn't accusing you of ChatGPTing or something like that, it's just a lot more em dashes than I'm used to seeing. I will say that just because FAs use them a lot doesn't mean they need to be used a lot as a principle, but I get your point.
Your message seems to have gotten cut off; was there anything else you were going to add? Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 21:54, 31 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
> FAs use them a lot doesn't mean they need to be used a lot as a principle
I know, it's just evidence I'm providing that em dashes are generally used at high levels of grammar.
> Your message seems to have gotten cut off; was there anything else you were going to add?
" - just cleaning up the prose. Thanks, - OmegaAOL" was all. OmegaAOL (talk page, and contribs) 21:56, 31 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Just to clarify, what issues did you have with the revised lead? Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 00:28, 1 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
None. What do you mean? - OmegaAOL (talk page, and contribs) 00:28, 1 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This reversion here. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 00:29, 1 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, that. "in terms of parallels", "Others". Also I think the prose on mine flows (nicer). - OmegaAOL (talk page, and contribs) 00:31, 1 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I feel the tone is a bit informal for something of this weight, in my opinion. I am not against grammatical changes but I do feel that the tone could be altered by some re-wording to be a bit more formal. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 01:12, 1 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Edited to be more formal. - OmegaAOL (talk page, and contribs) 01:14, 1 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
An example sentence lifted from both the original version, my copyedit, and your further copyedit for eval:
original: The Ood were enslaved as a slave race by the company Ood Operations, with propaganda created by the company telling those who purchased Ood that the Ood enjoyed their work, and that their status as slaves was how their species functioned naturally.
  • "enslaved as a slave race" is redundancy, using 2x and 2x "Ood" so close together is stylistically not ideal, and status and function are two different things.
my CE: The Ood race was enslaved by the company Ood Operations; the company manufactured propaganda—aimed at potential buyers—which claimed that the Ood enjoyed working as slaves, and that their species was naturally inclined towards slavery.
  • remove redundancy, use Em dashes (instead of brackets) to provide further context, and distinguish "status" and "function/inclination".
your CE: The Ood race was enslaved by the company Ood Operations; the company manufactured propaganda, aimed at potential buyers, which claimed that the Ood enjoyed working as slaves, and that their species was naturally inclined towards slavery.
Same thing, except here the Em dashes were supposed to replace brackets—not commas—so the prose becomes clunkier. I am not going to revert it back to the Em-dashed version without your agreement, however I think that it was better for the above reasons. Please share your thoughts. OmegaAOL (talk page, and contribs) 21:31, 31 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think I agree in terms of the example here now that you've clarified that with me. I'm unopposed to including the em dashes for this sentence, feel free to revert my edit on this one. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 21:55, 31 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you ...

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... for an efficient GA review for a Bach cantata! - 300 years ago: another one, Gott der Herr ist Sonn und Schild, BWV 79, on the occasion for which it was written, Reformation Day - it's not only Halloween today. You are invited to the peer reviews for another candidate. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:03, 31 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your kind words! I am going to look at it now, as I have some time before going out for Halloween. - OmegaAOL (talk page, and contribs) 22:15, 31 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

GA failure?

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Hey, I hope you are doing well and having a lovely week. I wanted to just post a note that I believe that your quick fail of Allison Lanier was, in my opinion, very unfair. I felt that your comments could have been regular comments rather than a quick fail. First of all, I really do not see how the grammar is not good, but also, this could have easily been fixed. There is no article or even section to Anabelle so I am unsure of how it could be linked. Luxury was in quotes because that's how the actress described it and so it was done to ensure that it was depicted as being her opinion. Also, Summer Newman is a fictional character and characters are referred by first name, not last name. The reason that life and career have been merged is because there is a lot of overlap and it is (overall) a short section – this is also similar for Rory Gibson and Andrew Still (actor). And the reason that there are no photos is because there are no free ones available, which is often the case for BLPs. Having photos is not a requirement for GAs, it's just about ensuring that if there are photos they are in the article and that the photos there are relevant and free. Again, I am not trying to be rude at all, I just feel that these were not good rationales for quickfailing the article at all, and any issues could have seen the article easily stayed open and fixed within a few days. Regardless, I have done a copy edit to look out for any typos in case there were any, and will be renominating the article. Anyway, there's no hard feelings, I just wanted to explain. Have a lovely weekend 😊 DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 00:40, 1 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! A quick fail does not mean an article is exceptionally bad; just that there is one criterion it is severly lacking in. In this case, it was the Photos section; the article Summer Newman has a photo of Lannier, and a requirement is that good articles must have photos if at all possible, which that article proves (that it is possible). That is the only reason why you were quick failed and the other reasons were just comments. - OmegaAOL (talk page, and contribs) 00:44, 1 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, thank you for letting me know. Just to clarify, the reason why Summer Newman has a picture of Lanier is because that is a screenshot from the show, which is allowed in character articles where it is the main subject, but not for actor articles of living people. This is why there are hundreds of soap opera articles with pictures of the characters but the actors not having them in their article as there is no free use rationale unfortunately DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 00:47, 1 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There do seem to be CC videos on YouTube for the results "Summer Newman", so try using a still from one of those. - OmegaAOL (talk page, and contribs) 01:02, 1 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies, I thought the image in that article was CC/. - OmegaAOL (talk page, and contribs) 01:02, 1 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Good Evening! I just wanted to let you know that I think the quick fail for this GA was inappropriate. Based on your review, I don't believe the issues were significant and unlikely to be resolved during the seven-day time frame which is expected for GAs. I recommend reopening this GA and working with User:DaniloDaysOfOurLives to work this out, and please let me know if there is anything I can help you with! Bgsu98 (Talk) 03:16, 1 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutely; I had originally failed it due to incorporating no image - thus failing Criterion 6 - but then realized that the image in question that I had expected the author to have used, which was on another article, was fair use. I will be re-opening this review. - OmegaAOL (talk page, and contribs) 03:23, 1 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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A barnstar for you!

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For your work in improving coverage of Texas Instruments calcultors, most notably so far TI-84 Plus series. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 13:16, 1 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! - OmegaAOL (talk page, and contribs) 02:03, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

October 2025 GAN Backlog Drive

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The Multiple Good Article Reviewer's Barnstar
This award is given to OmegaAOL for accumulating at least 30 points in the October 2025 GAN Backlog Drive. Your dedicated reviews contributed to the successful reduction of the backlog and helped improve the quality of articles. Here's our token of appreciation. Thank you for your time and efforts, and hopefully we'll see you soon again! Bgsu98 (Talk) 23:15, 1 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, thank you for this! I was happy to contribute to the articles I reviewed and help make them GA-worthy. - OmegaAOL (talk page, and contribs) 02:03, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Your new signature

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Love your new signature it looks awesome! GothicGolem29 (Talk) 17:23, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oh wow thanks! I spent 10 minutes on this lol and it JUST passed the character limit. OmegaAOLtalk? 17:25, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ooh it changed again this one is even better! I know the feeling took me ages to make a good signature. GothicGolem29 (Talk) 17:30, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yup, I would have included Special:Contributions on here too but for the damn character limit. OmegaAOLtalk? 17:33, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah that limit is annoying. GothicGolem29 (Talk) 17:41, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There is a whole internal section on it. Apparently, you can bypass it with templates, which is interesting. Happy editing! OmegaAOLtalk? 17:44, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah that is an interesting tip to bypass it. You too! GothicGolem29 (Talk) 17:46, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Questionable GA pass

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It's ironic that you create the WP essay WP:NORGW arguing that "pro-RGW" editors are in favor of introducing less reliable sources to push a POV, yet you passed the Talk:Richard A. Peterson (aviator)/GA1. Why are YouTube videos and random websites reliable sources?? This seems to be something you just failed to check or don't fully understand.

{r{u|Bgsu98}} this is my problem with backlog drives that don't include a rigorous quality check. (t · c) buidhe 00:26, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Buidhe Three things:
  • The YouTube videos are used to cite a quote by Peterson, and one of those videos is literally Peterson saying that quote, which is one of the only acceptable uses of a YouTube video in citation. This would still not be acceptable on its own, but there is a secondary source backing this statement up (c14).
  • I did a spot-check of the first citation for each statement, and the YouTube videos made up the last 2 citations of a statement with 3 (the first was a book). This is how I missed the videos. I can (and will) remove the other, non-Peterson-including video, and that statement will still hold up.
  • You missed the point of the essay. It was not about editors introducing invalid sources, but about editors giving undue or equivalent weight to a less reliable RS in favor of a preexisting more reliable RS.
failed to check or don't fully understand I think this statement is a bit, what was the word? Ironic? because the point of the essay completely flew over your head. OmegaAOLtalk? 02:34, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
In addition, the only site used that could be construed as "random" is To Fly and Fight, which does seem to be a legitimate, non-"blog" website. OmegaAOLtalk? 02:44, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Other than that, the sites used are just military history databases/directories that pull from multiple historical records, so why the plural for "random sites"? For dramatic effect or simply because you failed to check or don't fully understand the sources? OmegaAOLtalk? 02:49, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Being a blog is orthogonal to the question of reliability. It must have editorial oversight or recognized expertise, as well as a reputation for fact checking and accuracy. None of this has been, it appears, even evaluated. (t · c) buidhe 06:13, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The To Fly and Fight website is itself based on a famous book authored by the operator of the site, who has recognized expertise in the subject matter. OmegaAOLtalk? 11:52, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for pointing out the "history channel" YouTube video (which I have now removed from the three citations for that particular quote), but the rest of your points do not seem to be valid. See the rest of my response. OmegaAOLtalk? 02:50, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Peterson's statement in an interview is not a reliable source except as attributed for his version of events. Furthermore, the average YouTube channel is not even reliable enough to trust they are actually interviewing the person they claim they are. (t · c) buidhe 06:10, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello. My apologies, I was unactive for some time. That video is sourcing a direct quote by Peterson, not a wikivoice statement. It is just sourcing his version of events. In addition, you are correct about the reliability but the statement is also backed up by a secondary source. OmegaAOLtalk? 11:49, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
inactive* OmegaAOLtalk? 11:52, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

November music

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Today I remember a singer who impressed me on stage. - Thank you for participating in the PR! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:16, 6 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You are welcome! OmegaAOLtalk? 16:06, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have three biographies on the main page today, miss a fourth one, nominated a fifth, that means little time for other matters. My places now include La Scala, - see music, Verdi three times, and twice in my story! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:56, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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TI calculator expertise

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Conversation archived: further discussion should take place on the article's talk page, not my own

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TL:DR: long argument about reliable sources, original research, "why are you spreading lies?", an editor unironically saying "Source: myself", and the importance(?) of subject matter expertise. Ends with somewhat of an agreement (on one topic) between me and one of the subject matter experts.


We in the TI graphing calculator community appreciate the work put into cleaning up the TI-84_Plus_series, but you're introducing many inaccuracies to the article. We've removed the EZ-spot concept art as the TI-84 Plus School Property calculator exists and does not look anything like (since when has inventing something been okay in Wikipedia?) that along with correcting other points.

We're concerned that you don't understand what you're editing, and some of us (myself included) are willing to assist you in improving the article in a factual manner.

Also, we have excellent own-work pictures of real calculators, which should always be preferable to vector art designs. Asdf2jkl (talk) 15:54, 9 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, @Asdf2jkl, and thank you for your detailed reply. As a member of the community myself, I understand and will attempt to work with the concerns of you and whatever portion of the community you are speaking to me on behalf of.
  • First off, I would like to state that Wikipedia articles are summaries of the consensus and content of reliable, established sources, not information hubs for new, original developments. There were many points and claims that I had to remove from the article, as even though I personally believe (and have experienced) them, they have not been published by actual, perennially reliable sources. For instance I know the C Silver Edition was slower then the monochromes and I know why it was slow, but I couldn't keep that little tidbit in as it wasn't backed up by the type of source that an encyclopedia demands. As of the latest revision by me 10 minutes ago, every claim is backed up by a reliable, non-user-generated, non-forum source.
  • I have seen previous very long-lasting edit warring and conflict between Wikipedians and hobbyists before when there is a concern of "encyclopedic content" vs. "hobbyist content" in an article. I do not want this to resemble such conflict. You seem like a reasonable person and I would like to be agreeable with you.
  • "which should always be preferable to vector art designs" This is not, for the most part, true. For design trademarked and copyrighted devices such as these, vector art is generally preferred, when available, due to clear depiction, reproduction ability (you can infinitely scale a vector), educational and schematical use, Wikipedia's policy on artistic depictions of a copyrighted work, not the work itself, and possible licensing issues with an actual picture of a copyrighted item. For proof of this, just look at the articles for iPhone 17 and Pixel 10, which both use descriptive and detailed vector illustrations, not real pictures of either phone. As a Wikipedian, I must adhere to the standards and established consensus on the encyclopedia.
Now, on to the changes:
  • I took the TI-84 Plus Interchangeable faceplate point from a Reliable Source - I only own a CSE and SE, so could not verify this myself. Perhaps the source had made an error in its publication. Keeping your change.
  • TiLP is not maintained and does not support modern versions of macOS nor (some) modern Linux distros. Where did you get this information from? It was last updated in 2013 (fits the definition of abandonware) and is completely 32-bit according to its website, so the "supports modern architectures" claim appears to be false (the last mainstream 32-bit CPU was the Pentium 4, released 2002). Reverting your change, but keeping newly added information of TiLP's existence, and its compatibility with certain new operating systems, in.
  • The DATAMATH Calculator Museum claims that the TI-84 Plus has a 120x64 display. You claim it is a 96x64 display. You have not added sources to corroborate this change; however, I have found and added a source from Texas Instruments, so I am keeping your change.
  • GitHub is not a reliable or encyclopedic source. Reverting your change.
  • You have introduced some grammatical errors. Fixing those.
  • The EZ-Spot image was in my folder of vector images I had created a long time ago. I thought it represented the EZ-Spot when I added it. Now looking at an actual picture of the EZ-Spot, I agree that it does not represent the actual calculator. Keeping your change.
A small note on Wikipedia policy, and what preceded it:
  • Wikipedia's predecessor was Nupedia, an encyclopedia built on the input of "volunteer contributors with lengthy relevant subject-matter expertise". The founder and maintainer of Nupedia, Jimmy Wales, established Wikipedia, an encyclopedia editable by anyone on Earth, in the early 2000s. Nupedia, with its stringent requirements in regards to experts, could not compete and was shut down by Wales a short while after Wikipedia's boom.
  • Nupedia's principles about the expertise of editors do not match the spirit, rule, or intent of Wikipedia. You do not need to have subject-matter expertise to edit these articles, just summarize the content of the Reliable Sources. Editor conflict on the basis of subject-matter expertise is also frowned upon here, for the above reason. For further information, see Wikipedia:No original research. I actually do have a fair bit of expertise in the subject matter, but I am aware that it in no way influences my quality as an editor or the statements that make their way into the article.
  • I am bringing this point up because the article was previously chock-full of unsourced Wikipedia:Original research before I started editing it, to such a disastrous level that I was greatly admonished by a shocked editor who assumed that I was the one who had brought the original research in. I am sure that the previously-existing information was introduced by an expert with great experience (I learned quite a deal from it, personally), however the nicheness of the subject means a lot of it is unsourceable and unciteable.
Overall, you have brought to the table some very valid concerns, especially about the erroneous TI-84 EZ Spot image. However, a few of your corrections have been grammatically unsound; I kindly request you to first leave messages about inaccuracies on the article's talk page and then make edits only if absolutely needed, as I am trying to get this article promoted to GA status. (I can't stop you, though, but I'm requesting this as a favor to make it easier for me). In addition, we should remember that old hobbyist forums and Wikipedia are different places, and do not necessarily have the same priorities in regards to "We are the experts, and you are not" culture, grammar requirements, and the reliability of user-generated content. OmegaAOLtalk? 10:59, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I will have to agree with whoever created this talk topic, you are adding/editing content when you clearly do not know enough about the topic, regardless of what you're claiming, and while that's fine for minor trivial edits, it is clearly NOT okay when wrong things end up in the article(s). Here in your response, you are doubling down on misinformation as well. For instance:
- TiLP is very much maintained still (I would know, I am one of the authors of some recent additions/fixes), development happens on GitHub nowadays instead of the legacy SourceForge/LPG sites, see the official repos https://github.com/debrouxl/tilibs and https://github.com/debrouxl/tilp_and_gfm (not necessarily on the master branches but on the experimental branches too, as well as in forks, like mine). The latest release date (assuming that's what you have seen somewhere) does not matter that much when the main source/way of getting the software is via building it yourself or using third party packages. And that yields 2024-2025 depending on what you use, and definitely not 2013.
- TiLP does work fine on both intel and arm macOS. Source: myself and many other people are using it daily on the latest mac hardware and OS... Where are you getting this wrong information, and consequently why are you spreading lies? If you don't know something, just don't write about it? Having no information about something is better than wrong ones!
- GitHub is a valid source when it is where something is from (for instance, community/third party software being developed there)
- Datamath doesn't claim the TI-84 Plus "has a 120x64 display", no. It says "64*120 pixel display driver" which is quite different, since they're talking about the driver. It takes a few seconds to see pretty much everywhere, most importantly TI's own website, that it is actually 96x64. Adriweb (talk) 13:56, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Adriweb Sigh. Again, I appreciate the time you have taken to reply to me (and am flattered), but I regret that you clearly and so obviously didn't get the point of what I am saying or Wikipedia policy on OR and RS.
  • TILP might be still maintained and I am aware of this. However, the website, which is the only non WP:UGC source, states 2013 as the last release date. You simply need to transcribe what is in the Reliable Sources, even if you "know" the information to be outdated. This is non-negotiable Wikipedia policy.
  • "spreading lies" first, you're breaking WP:AGF and WP:CIVIL (the former of which is one of the 3 core tenets of this site), and second, reliable source - the TICalc hosted website says that TILP is 32-bit. Even if it is now amd64 and can run on ARM the website does not reflect this, so I cannot put it in.
  • Source: myself and many other people are using it daily on the latest mac hardware and OS.. That statement is comedic in how completely anti-thetical it is to Wikipedia policy. For the third time, I believe you, but you are not a source. Your friends are not a source. You. Need. Reliable. Sources. On. Wikipedia. That. Is. How. Things. Work. Here.
  • If you don't know something, just don't write about it? Not how it works. I am simply writing down what the WP:RS claim. Please do not harass me on my own talk page.
  • You, again, read that statement and instantly jumped into a reply without reading the rest of my sentence. I kept the 96x64 display size information, and even added the Texas Instruments website source confirming that myself (the previous editor had forgotten to do this).
  • I get you have forked TiLP, and I get that sometimes that can represent a significant investment of time. I know, I am a developer myself and have contributed to major and minor repos. However, this is NOT encyclopedia-worthy content!
  • There is no mention on TI-Calc or the hosted site of any move to GitHub. Without Reliable Source proof that this is not just an unofficial fork, I cannot do anything. Again - encyclopedia, not forum, not Cemetech.
I believe everything you are saying. However, you need a non-user-published source. If you are an author of a fix, tell the maintainers to update their website as it clearly hasn't been updated for 12 years. OmegaAOLtalk? 14:46, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Well, you apparently missed that I was listing and replying to things *about your reply here*, not about the article edits, even if they're related.
Also, I obviously don't mean any disrespect, my "spreading lies" comment is not me saying "you're a liar" (that would be breaking WP:AGF), it is only what I see (wrong information ("lies") being added to the article ("spread")). I guess I could have phrased that better, but then again I am not a native English speaker.
To go back to the topic at hand: I never said that "Adriweb's message here" should be the source of anything for the article, I am well aware that's not how things work here, I was merely correcting you(r reply) by providing a counter-example. The non-personal/friend source about TiLP is simply the upstream repository (can't get more authoritative than that) on GitHub, which has all the information needed to know that recent hardware/software is supported. The current websites about TILP cannot be edited (otherwise they would have, it is indeed a problem to have wrong information being displayed here and there, not just on WP!) because the particular host is managed by someone who is currently unreachable and hasn't been for years – many people, including the upstream maintainer (debrouxl) have tried, so far to no avail. This was in fact recently a topic of discussion on community chats (earlier this week, even).
Regarding the LCD size, your edit here added wrong information about it, and unsourced, at that. And you also here mention, and I quote: "The DATAMATH Calculator Museum claims that the TI-84 Plus has a 120x64 display. You claim it is a 96x64 display. You have not added sources to corroborate this change". Which is wrong (you misunderstood LCD vs LCD driver) as I explained in my previous reply, and yet you complain about a mistake fix being unsourced while having introduced the unsourced mistake in the first place. I find that rather ironic considering all the rules and tenets you keep mentioning.
Hopefully you see the points we are trying to make here - I for one have nothing against you (I do not know you after all), I just care enough about this particular topic to be annoyed when wrong things get added.
Thank you Adriweb (talk) 15:23, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
My apologies now that I see you are not a native English speaker. For future reference, spreading lies is similiar to calling somebody a liar in English.
  • Regarding the LCD size, your edit here added wrong information about it, and unsourced, at that. And you also here mention, and I quote: "The DATAMATH Calculator Museum claims that the TI-84 Plus has a 120x64 display. You claim it is a 96x64 display. You have not added sources to corroborate this change". Which is wrong (you misunderstood LCD vs LCD driver) as I explained in my previous reply, and yet you complain about a mistake fix being unsourced while having introduced the unsourced mistake in the first place. I find that rather ironic considering all the rules and tenets you keep mentioning.
There is a reason that I changed that statement. It was wrong (what I said). That is why you have linked to a historical edit, correct? Because I am not saying that anymore...
  • The current websites about TILP cannot be edited (otherwise they would have, it is indeed a problem to have wrong information being displayed here and there, not just on WP!) because the particular host is managed by someone who is currently unreachable and hasn't been for years – many people, including the upstream maintainer (debrouxl) have tried, so far to no avail. This was in fact recently a topic of discussion on community chats (earlier this week, even).
I fully realize this, in my capacity as a regular person. I have admitted this since our discussion began, I do trust in your expertise. I am just limited in what I can publish, as an encyclopedic editor, by what the reliable sources say. I can remove any mention of TiLP being incompatible at all (and just mention it as a popular linking program), but I cannot cite the GitHub repo as a source if the website contradicts it and reliable sources point to the website, not the repo, as the authoritative source.
  • on GitHub, which has all the information needed to know that recent hardware/software is supported.
Well, in theory, it might be a fork. An unofficial fork. Or malware, since no reliable source links to the GitHub. (I, having used it, know it isn't, but encyclopedic norms must prevail)
That is the point I have been making all along; there is truly no point arguing with me, as personally, I am already on your side. However, the encyclopedic policy is another matter. In the spirit of factual information, I will remove the sourced claim about TiLP being obsolete, but I will unfortunately not be able to add that it is still maintained.
I have nothing against you, too, in fact my above reply was going to be much more pleasant until I read "spreading lies", which is frankly more like what the Pope would have said to Martin Luther than the type of phrase which is acceptable in polite discourse. Now that I understand it was not intentional, I do not bear you any ill will. Thank you for your reply and your understanding, and happy day! I will try to make the article conform to the real facts of TiLP's development as best I can with the limitations of Reliable Sources. OmegaAOLtalk? 15:34, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Adriweb and @Asdf2jkl: I have modified the statement to (hopefully) be agreeable to all of us while keeping in line with RS policy.
There are multiple third-party linking programs compatible with the TI-84 Plus series. Most of these were developed for archaic platforms like the Commodore Amiga, the Atari, and MS-DOS, and as such, cannot be run on modern computers. However, one of these programs—TiLP II—is much more recent and supports Windows, macOS, and Linux.
It uses the website as a source for this information, which is all technically true and verifiable; I just "leave out" that it was last updated in 2013 and that the website's version doesn't actually support new macOS. An accurate representation of the state of TiLP while still only citing the website. OmegaAOLtalk? 15:48, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'd rather omit information than include outdated or potentially-misleading facts. However, I cannot find any Wikipedia policies that suggest that GitHub is not a reliable source for claims WP:ABOUTSELF, which git history certainly is. That's not enough to tie the GitHub-developed TiLP to the ticalc.org-hosted TiLP (perhaps @Adriweb or @Debrouxl know of a qualifying source), but it is enough to allow for a mention.
For the sake of clarity, I would only include information on the current version of TiLP, though I'm sure that choice could be considered WP:RECENTISM. Asdf2jkl (talk) 16:07, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I took a look at a GA article on software (Rust_(programming_language)), and it contains 8 sources hosted on GitHub, including independent repositories and specific PRs on the project repository itself. Asdf2jkl (talk) 16:10, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Asdf2jkl: could you ping me when replying, because I probably otherwise won't see.
The Rust programming language uses GitHub because reliable sources tie that particular group of repositories and their docs to the official Rust team, and independent repositories are in turn tied to the official repository. Sadly there is no such tying for the TiLP project. The "no GitHub" statement is just a general following of WP:UGC, not a specific thing in Wikipedia policy. GitHub is fine as a source - if the sources tie the repository in question to the Rust project.
About WP:ABOUTSELF, it is impossible to prove (just using the reliable sources) that the GitHub page is affiliated with the official project as represented on the old website.
About the rewritten sentence, it is acceptable by policy to include that information as editors themselves do not have to self-verify if information is outdated, and it is the truth, after all. OmegaAOLtalk? 16:26, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We must also not only consider policy, but also encyclopedia-worthiness. The statement about the software, its purpose, and its compatibility is worthy, but when it turns to forks, repositories, etc... one questions whether this should really be covered by an encyclopedia. Again, the Rust page links to the repos since that is the object of discussion in the article; this article, however, is not about TILP. OmegaAOLtalk? 16:30, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Asdf2jkl pinging again: I have further modified the statement:
There are multiple third-party linking programs compatible with the TI-84 Plus series; most were developed for archaic platforms like the Commodore Amiga, the Atari, and MS-DOS, and cannot be run on modern computers. However, one of these programs—TiLP II—is more recent and supports Windows, macOS, and Linux.
It does not misrepresent or distort any of the statements on the website, yet also does not provide a description of obsolescence. OmegaAOLtalk? 17:28, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@OmegaAOL As far as I'm aware, that is completely accurate and not misleading in the slightest.
My only comment is on whether the II in "TiLP II" is worth including, as that has never been its common name and may lead readers towards outdated software. Asdf2jkl (talk) 17:36, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I considered it worth including because sources like the TICalc website quote it as "TiLP II" and not "TiLP". Perhaps I can add a cite-note clarifying the (II) status, but refer to it as TiLP? OmegaAOLtalk? 17:43, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Asdf2jkl: added a cite-note explaining the naming, but otherwise referred to as TiLP. Check the article if you wish. OmegaAOLtalk? 17:54, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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