This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 13, 2024.
New Roman Empire
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- The result of the discussion was disambiguate. (non-admin closure) Cremastra 🎄 u — c 🎄 19:26, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- New Roman Empire → Italian Empire (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
No mention at target and not an expression commonly used to refer to the Italian Empire. There seems to be no primary topic.
Thus, I propose to either retarget to New Rome (disambiguation), or DABify with Byzantine Empire, Holy Roman Empire, Third Rome, and Italian Empire. Veverve (talk) 22:51, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
Retarget to New Rome (disambiguation).This0k (talk) 23:40, 13 December 2024 (UTC)WP:SOCKSTRIKE — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 06:39, 18 December 2024 (UTC)- Disambiguate Latin Empire as well; and Third Reich (self-defined successor to HRE (2nd Reich) and Roman Empire (1st Reich) ), Napoleonic Empire (successor to HRE; with Bonaparte occult-defined as the new Roman Emperor, new Beast), Russian Empire (self-declared successor to Constantinople, with the title of Caesar (Tsar) ) -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 03:59, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Disambiguate Per nom. and IP, the title of 'new Roman Empire' has been thrown around and could easily refer to any one of these.
- Sparkle and Fade talkedits 06:49, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Everything the IP has suggested is already covered at Succession of the Roman Empire (a.k.a Third Rome). Veverve (talk) 11:00, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Disambiguate along the lines suggested by Veverve. The most likely targets are "Byzantine Empire" and "Holy Roman Empire", but some of the others are plausible targets as well—though probably not "Third Reich", despite a bombastic claim to be a successor state. "Third Rome", covering all claimants to be successors to the Roman Empire, is a better alternative on a disambiguation page than listing all such claimants on the disambiguation page. P Aculeius (talk) 16:07, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- NOTE Old Roman Empire (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has also been nominated #Old Roman Empire at RfD -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 18:10, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Disambiguate per above, with a focus on the Byzantine Empire at the top, as it likely has the best claim to being an actual continuation of Rome, but of course all the others suggested above should be included along with it, and possibly more (I think there may be some fictional entries somewhere?). New Rome (disambiguation) should get a "See Also:" link to this DAB, and this DAB should likewise link to New Rome (disambiguation). Fieari (talk) 00:05, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
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Ghost town tornado
[edit] Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 December 22#Ghost town tornado
Multivariant testing
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- The result of the discussion was retarget to A/B testing. The WordsmithTalk to me 04:51, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Multivariant testing → Software testing#A/B testing (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Term not at target; term is mentioned at Software testing tactics and A/B testing, but could seemingly refer to any of the topics at Multivariate testing (disambiguation). Not sure what's best here. Mdewman6 (talk) 02:31, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to A/B testing. While the page doesn't contain the word "multivariant", this is clearly the concept being described, and I don't see why it would be preferable to link to a two-sentence summary of the article, rather than the article itself. While I think "multivariant" can be used as a synonym of "multivariate" sometimes in mathematical contexts, the latter is considerably more common I think (cf. [1]), and Hotelling's T-squared distribution, the current target of Multivariate testing, does not use such language. The user experience topic also appears to be the most prominent among search results for the phrase. – Michael Aurel (talk) 12:49, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: Tradespace currently links to the redirect, which has had 6 page views in the 90 days before the RFD opened. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 01:08, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Notified of this discussion at the proposed target.
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Old Roman Empire
[edit] Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 December 24#Old Roman Empire
Castilleja chromosa
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- The result of the discussion was withdrawn and articlefied. (non-admin closure) Cremastra ‹ u — c › 23:15, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Castilleja chromosa → Castilleja angustifolia (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Castilleja chromosa is an accepted species name according to Plants of the World Online and World Flora Online. Having this page redirect to another accepted species name Castilleja angustifolia is an error. As there is not an appropriate target for the redirect it should be deleted to not mislead readers until such time that a full article is created. 🌿MtBotany (talk) 17:20, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, I guess. Seems to be very well-researched (at least, compared to the taxa I'm used to trying to write articles about), so I'll start a draft. Cremastra ‹ u — c › 20:53, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Cremastra Cool if you do. I ran across it when I was writing Castilleja scabrida and I thought I might create it, but I would not be able to get to it for about four weeks and so I thought I'd list it and come back to it after I de-stub some other pages. 🌿MtBotany (talk) 21:24, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Comment The sources provided by the nominator list Castilleja angustifolia as a synonym for this species, as does the lead of the target. Are we sure these are two different species? - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 22:11, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- GBIF accepts angustifolia, and so does POWO. Presidentman, they don't list C. angustifolia as a synonym of C. chromosa, but they do list C. angustifolia var. collina. Cremastra ‹ u — c › 01:14, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- So C. chromosa is a variety of C. angustifolia? I'm still confused here. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 17:04, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Angustifolia and chromosa are different species. At some point someone described a new variety of angustifolia. Later, someone else said "wait a minute, this isn't a variety of angustifolia, this is just chromosa!" So C. angustifolia var. collina is in fact just another name for C. chromosa. I think. I'm used to zoology, but botany seems to use different terminology for synonyms. Cremastra ‹ u — c › 22:44, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- So C. chromosa is a variety of C. angustifolia? I'm still confused here. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 17:04, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- GBIF accepts angustifolia, and so does POWO. Presidentman, they don't list C. angustifolia as a synonym of C. chromosa, but they do list C. angustifolia var. collina. Cremastra ‹ u — c › 01:14, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Withdraw? @Cremastra has started working on an article already just rewriting the redirect. Is there a way to drop this off the RfD? My concerns are being addressed. 🌿MtBotany (talk) 03:05, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
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Redirects from other languages to United States
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- The result of the discussion was Delete Estados Unidos da América as uncontested. The rest are a total trainwreck and need to be renominated individually. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:24, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- Estados Unidos da América → United States (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- 米国 → United States (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Соединенные Штаты Америки → United States (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Соединенные Штаты → United States (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Les États Unis d'Amérique → United States (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Vereinigte Staaten von Amerika → United States (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Portuguese
- Japanese
- Russian
- Russian
- French
- German
All of these were recently created and I tagged several others for speedy deletion based on previous discussions that resulted in deletion, but these did not have previous discussions. Delete as redirects in a language other than English to a page whose subject is unrelated to that language (point 8 of WP:R#DELETE)/per WP:RFOREIGN. I also CSD tagged several other recently created redirects that had been deleted as the result of previous discussions, but these ones had not been explicitly discussed previously. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:13, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- delete all per nom. not in the mood to do this again. what the hell is a portuguese cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:29, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete most of them per nom and WP:RLOTE. Also @Hey man im josh I think you included ভাৰত by accident, that redirect targets to India. However, I'm not sure about Estados Unidos da América which is the Portuguese translation. We do have Estados Unidos which was kept at RfD previously as the Spanish language has an affinity with the U.S., being the second most spoken language there. We also have Estados Unidos de América which is the Spanish translation. I'm leaning towards delete since Portuguese doesn't have much of an affinity with the U.S. but just wanted to note this.
- Fathoms Below (talk) 17:34, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Urgh, yeah, I gotta take it slower sometimes. I'm removing that one to India, thanks for pointing this out @Fathoms Below. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:00, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- hmm... would i consider a single letter in a possessive article to be a significant enough difference that it changes a redirect from a language with strong affinity to one with no affinity beyond how much people want to bang jetstream sam? absolutely cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 18:04, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete all per nom but keep the Spanish redirect in all cases. America speaks Spanish, right? 67.209.128.30 (talk) 03:00, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- I specifically avoided nominating any Spanish redirects, none of which were recent creations I believe, unlike the entries nominated, which were all recently created. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:10, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- no, no, let the misconception that brazil (whatever that is) speaks spanish be spread :3 cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 11:11, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- I specifically avoided nominating any Spanish redirects, none of which were recent creations I believe, unlike the entries nominated, which were all recently created. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:10, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep some there is AFFINITY for some non-English languages in the United States, meeting RFOREIGN Manifestations of culture with special significance in areas where that language is spoken. The U.S. has several non-English native dialects and languages. -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 04:24, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Strong Keep "Les États Unis d'Amérique" because Louisiana French is a real thing, and still used in the United States. The Louisiana Purchase transferred French-speaking territories from France to the United States. There are real ties to a dialect of French only used in the United States. Louisiana French is an U.S.-only dialect. There is some legal recognition of Louisiana French in Louisiana, with some areas even have French-language street signs unrelated to tourism, for the native population to use. -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 04:11, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep "Vereinigte Staaten von Amerika" due to the existence of Pennsylvania German dialect in the United States, a U.S.-only dialect group -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 04:24, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Noting that an RfD for a different phrasing from German (United States, whereas this is specifically "United States of America" resulted in deletion. See Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 December 19#Vereinigte Staaten. I was tempted to G4 tag this, but being it wasn't the exact phrasing, I chose not to. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:08, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Those who attended that deletion discussion may have forgotten or not known the existence of Pennsylvania German as dialects that exists only in the United States. -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 23:30, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Noting that an RfD for a different phrasing from German (United States, whereas this is specifically "United States of America" resulted in deletion. See Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 December 19#Vereinigte Staaten. I was tempted to G4 tag this, but being it wasn't the exact phrasing, I chose not to. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:08, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Weak keep "Соединенные Штаты Америки"/"Соединенные Штаты" because the Seward Alaska Purchase bought Russian America from the Russian Empire becoming Alaska; which had several settlements of Russian-speakers at the time -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 04:24, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete "Estados Unidos da América" because there is no affinity for Portuguese -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 04:25, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete "米国" as there is no affinity for Japanese. -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 04:25, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - No comment on most of these, but I think 米国 should point to somewhere that explains why Japan chose "rice country" as the kanji for America way back in the day. I think this is something English speakers may want to search for once learning of it. Now, Demonyms for the United States doesn't mention it (in favor of the katakana アメリカ), but it probably should, as American (word) DOES mention it, though it doesn't explain it yet (and that page should likely also mention that アメリカ人 is also used alongside 米国人). Fieari (talk) 23:47, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget 米国 to Names of the United States#Names in the Asian cultural sphere where discussed, per Fieari's reasoning. No opinion on the others right now, though it may be worth noting that the Portuguese, French, and German names are mentioned in Names of the United States#Names in the European cultural sphere. 59.149.117.119 (talk) 09:23, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
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Redirects. with periods following "the"
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- The result of the discussion was delete all except The.scene for which there was no consensus. Jay 💬 11:42, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- The.Curse.of.Oak.Island → The Curse of Oak Island (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- The.scene → The Scene (miniseries) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- The. 65th Infantry Regiment → 65th Infantry Regiment (United States) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- The. Exile of the Children of Lir → Children of Lir (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
These all seem to be quite WP:UNNATURAL typos or replacements. For the first 2, I can't find any evidence that it's a stylization or the like. mwwv converse∫edits 14:12, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
Comment: For the first 2: These are encoded format names, with spaces substituted with periods/dots/fullstops. It is an affectation of some methods for encoding spaces in URLs by some pieces of software -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 16:32, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: The Scene is stylized as the.scene in episode intros, see Youtube S01E01. bbx (talk) 21:12, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete the articles don't appear to indlicate that these are likely to be stylized this way. Crouch, Swale (talk) 23:29, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete these errors, with no mention in the articles of any relevant stylisation. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 20:42, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep The Scene, mention or not; if the show itself demonstrably stylized it this way it becomes a plausible search term. Mention is not always required in the article, and this would be one such case. Remember: redirects are a search aid first and foremost. No comment on the others. Fieari (talk) 23:50, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
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Lumber Jerks (Ren & Stimpy Show)
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- The result of the discussion was keep. Jay 💬 14:58, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Lumber Jerks (Ren & Stimpy Show) → Lumber Jerks (The Ren & Stimpy Show) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Farm Hands (Ren & Stimpy Show) → Farm Hands (The Ren & Stimpy Show) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Typo article names that were moved to be fixed; too impractical to not deserve deletion. MimirIsSmart (talk) 13:31, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep both per WP:CHEAP. These redirects are harmless, unambiguous (even without the "the" in the show's title, they still lead exactly where promised), and potentially helpful. I can't really see why just "Ren & Stimpy Show" as opposed to "The Ren & Stimpy Show" is impractical—it's just another plausible way to quote the show's title (for instance, Ren & Stimpy Show is a redirect to the page about the show). Regards, SONIC678 16:07, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep neither of these two are typos. One uses "The" the other strips "The" from the namestring; that seems like a good use for redirects to me. Ren & Stimpy Show is a bluelink; and no other topic uses the "The"-less name -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 16:35, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Weak keep as redirects left from moves, and there for about 6 months, which is long enough that it's probably reasonable to keep, even if otherwise unneeded. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 00:07, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, these are very WP:CHEAP redirects. In this case, the proper noun without "the" at the beginning is perfectly fine. mwwv converse∫edits 12:44, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
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Vettukathi
[edit] Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 December 23#Vettukathi
Johnson (soccer)
[edit] Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 December 22#Johnson (soccer)
Calicrat
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- The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:57, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
while likely a plausible r from alternative scientific name or something, it's unmentioned, and results only gave me a brand of adult juices (i think it's booze, at least) and a list of words that rhyme with "matpat" cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 19:47, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
- Weak delete The word appears to be documented as a synonym for ant in The Endangered English Dictionary: Bodacious Words Your Dictionary Forgot, p. 30 (the only evidence of it I could find), but without any other use of it anywhere, I'm having trouble thinking of it as a reasonable redirect. Still, might be useful for someone reading "calicrat" in an old book and wondering what it means, so not too sure. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 21:30, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
- Weak delete The fact that it appears in the Endangered English Dictionary is a bad omen. OED has an entry, though the definition is under a paywall. The etymology section says "The only known use of the noun calicrat is in the late 1500s." So, no, I don't think it is a scientific name or anything of that sort. WP:RDELETE's obscure synonym clause appears here. Ca talk to me! 23:30, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete – Exactly one documented actual usage I could find ever, and it's from 1596. Oxford seems to concur with this. So we're talking about one line from one poem of no note written by one passably notable poet in the 1590s. The only context it's ever been used in outside of that as best I can tell (about 10 minutes' worth of searching) is Grambs 1994 and a select few obscure websites piggybacking off of Grambs 1994 by defining it as well. There's zero reason to think anyone would be stymied by this word's meaning and search it on Wikipedia. We wouldn't even include this on Wiktionary, which is extremely generous with arcahic words, because it fails inclusion criteria. WP:CHEAP, sure, but this is so implausible as to be literally worthless. (Also, this has nothing to do with scientific naming; this was over 100 years before Linnaeus was born.) TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 23:32, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. It's a poetic term for ant, definitely not a hapax legomenon, as attested by this 1896 poem. Jamieson wrote about it in his dictionary (1, 2), as have others since. Redirects are cheap, but a mention in the Callicrates article might suffice. Neodop (talk) 23:57, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete I know a lot of obscure English terms thanks to Wiktionary, and if it took me a massive amount of digging on the internet just to get a hint as to what it means then it's too obscure for Wiktionary - let alone something as notability-driven as ENWP Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 06:12, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:CHEAP per Neodop. It is conceivable that someone finds it an old book and understandably looks it up in the encyclopedia to see what this felid species they haven't heard of if. And they will bc helped. Cremastra ‹ u — c › 12:39, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 10:17, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete as beyond obscure, and that's being generous. I'm dubious that this would even survive even Wiktionary's permissive standards, given the paucity of attestation. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 15:30, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support. This is some made-up pseudo-neologism. 67.209.128.30 (talk) 03:02, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
Delete The obvious reason here is if it is another name for Ant then this redirect will help that person who is looking for it. Edit: Actually delete, it will hardly come up for it to be searched regardless and doesn't link to anything noteworthy aside from user pages.This0k (talk) 19:48, 13 December 2024 (UTC)WP:SOCKSTRIKE — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 06:43, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete as made-up pseudo-neologism per 35.139.154.158. 67.209.128.30 (talk) 03:03, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- How is it a pseudo-neologism? What does that mean? It's an archaic word, not a new one Cremastra ‹ u — c › 01:12, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete It's so uncommonly used as to hardly be a word. Even if it was somewhat rare I'd normally say keep it, but last used in 1596 in a single poem? ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 14:38, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- 1596? Only 1896. Cremastra ‹ u — c › 22:00, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
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N00b
[edit] Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 December 20#N00b