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Companion Pieces: Fantasy Furnishing

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A TTRPG product that does not appear to be notable. There is a single short "capsule review" of the product included in the article, but that is not enough to pass the WP:GNG on its own, and searches are not bringing up any kind of significant coverage (or any kind of coverage at all) in reliable sources on either the product or the company that produced it. As the company that made it is also non-notable and has no article, I cannot find any valid WP:ATD for this non-notable product. Rorshacma (talk) 22:25, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Science fiction and fantasy and Games. Rorshacma (talk) 22:25, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Who are "The Companions" who published this? Is this part of a series? Jclemens (talk) 03:57, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
They seem to have been a small, short-lived company that published a few TTRPG books and accessories in the early-to-mid eighties. But like I said, I had trouble finding any significant coverage on the company in reliable sources - this is just from their listing on RPGgeek. Rorshacma (talk) 06:40, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Is this a joke? I feel like anyone who thinks this article is worthy of an encyclopedia is actually pranking us. One source. Wow. - Poof positive (talk) 04:07, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Userfy or redirect somewhere. User:BOZ created many similar articles, many are borderline or better notable, but this one has just a single source. That's sadly not enough to warrant a stand-alone article. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:29, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I'm not sure where this would be discussed in a publisher, author, or list article either. Jclemens (talk) 04:11, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sagar Shah

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Unable to find any independent coverage, as almost all of the sources are either interviews or passing mentions in unreliable or unbylined sources. Not enough to meet WP:GNG. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 12:58, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Sportspeople, and India. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 12:58, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Snow keep. Interview sources are more than fine. There are plenty of them: e.g. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] Sportsfan77777 (talk) 14:08, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As an aside, it's completely absurd to think this person might not be notable. They founded the most successful chess journalism / media company ever, and are one of the most well-known media figures in chess. The nominator lacks the WP:COMPETENCE to be familiar with the subject and did not put adequate effort to look for sources. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 14:08, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sources from chessbase.in are WP:SPS, and thesportzplanet.com, perlenvombodensee.de, and fountainink.in are more like blogs with little or no editorial oversight. To clarify, ChessBase has existed since 1986 and the Indian version was only co-founded by him. Claiming that “they founded the most successful chess journalism/media company ever, and are one of the most well-known media figures in chess” reflects your bias and is not policy based. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 15:02, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No, Perlen vom Bodensee is not just a blog, [8], it is a very reliable source, also trusted by de-wp, for what it's worth. - Squasher (talk) 13:18, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Can you please double check? Because from what I see, the only author who consistently writes on Perlen vom Bodensee is Conrad Schormann, who is also the founder. Six articles were written by Stefan Löffler and a few by Roland Neumeier. The translated DE wiki article states that "The site's editor is Conrad Schormann, who is supported by a team of 18 authors.", which I believe is misleading based on what I’ve seen so far and the fact that the article has very few edits also doesn’t help its reliability. In any case, having a page on DE wiki doesn’t automatically make the source reliable, especially since the standards on EN wiki are significantly higher, which I believe you already know. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 15:34, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There is nothing to add or to check. I saw the article this afternoon by chance and also the the AfD, with a comment I did not completely agree and just wanted to leave a note that might help. The source is viewed as reliable in de-wp by the chess portal, if you do not agree, that is fine for me. Sagar Shah is at least in my eyes a relevant topic for someone like me, who follows chess purely from an interested viewer point of view. He is very well known in the chess eco system, in de-wp he is notable already just by having reached the IM title. If he doesn't meet the criteria here, because no sources can be found, that are seen as sufficient, so be it. - Squasher (talk) 20:19, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Games-related deletion discussions. Let'srun (talk) 19:29, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: No snow in the forecast here. Any further input on the sourcing?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, asilvering (talk) 01:07, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Don't Go to Jail

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I originally proposed the deletion of this article with the concern, "This article only cites a primary source, while the rest of it is unsourced. I tried searching for secondary sources (including books and scholars) but found none. Therefore, this topic most likely fails the general notability guideline." User:BOZ then removed the PROD and suggested that the article be merged to Monopoly (game)#Spin-offs, which I thought would be inappropriate because all of its text is pretty much unsalvageable, not to mention that the one primary source used to cite one sentence is now a permanent dead link. There was also the suggestion of redirecting to said page, which I was a bit skeptical about because the only mention of it there cites About.com (known today as Dotdash Meredith), which is a situational source according to the perennial sources list. (For the reliability of the source in the context of board games, I'll leave that up to Wikipedia:WikiProject Board and table games.) Basically, I'm still favoring this article's deletion. 1isall (talk/contribs) 18:23, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Games-related deletion discussions. 1isall (talk/contribs) 18:23, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Merge to Monopoly (game)#Spin-offs. The author of About.com review counts as subject matter expert (cited by New York Times, Tuscaloosa News, NPR). There's also a review by spieletest.at: [9]. Author is Arno Steinwender, who seems to be a notable board game designer, could also be counted as a subject matter expert. About.com review is too short to count as WP:SIGCOV and so there's not enough sources for a keep but I think merge is appropriate. --Mika1h (talk) 23:48, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for looking into that. There were some additional sources mentioned at Talk:Don't Go to Jail#Sources which should also be considered if content is to be moved there. BOZ (talk) 00:43, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oops, forgot to check the talk page. So the game was reviewed by Reich der Spiele: [10]. The site seems fairly reliable, its editorial policies appear to be very good: [11], [12], and it is cited by other sources: [13], [14], [15], [16], [17], [18]. Plus there's a print magazine review by de:Spielbox that briefly mentions the game: [19]. 2 standard reviews, 1 short one, and 1 brief mention. Enough for a keep I think. --Mika1h (talk) 12:24, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Free Parking

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With a due diligence search, I have found no reliable sources showing significant coverage of this topic. Also, if this topic were a person, an animal, an organization, web content, or an event, (which it's not any of those), it would've met speedy deletion criterion A7. 1isall (talk/contribs) 00:07, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Games-related deletion discussions. 1isall (talk/contribs) 00:07, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect: There is a possibility that there might be some coverage in (board) gaming magazines from the 1980s when the game first came out but I don't know what they would be or where to find them. Here is a review from a gaming blog, I'm not sure if this counts for notability. There is already a mention of it at Monopoly (game)#Spin-offs so redirect there is appropriate. Moritoriko (talk) 01:40, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Move, redirect, & disambiguate. Free parking currently redirects to Parking#Economics with a hatnote mentioning Free Parking. This is good; "parking that is free" is clearly the PTOPIC since the game is not notable. This page should do something similar, with care to preserve page history and existing links/redirects. My preference would be:

Move Free Parking to Free Parking (game).
Redirect Free Parking (game) to Monopoly (game)#Spin-offs per Moritoriko.
Redirect Free Parking to Parking#Economics, with a hatnote pointing to Free Parking (game).

Messy process, but sensible result. Anerdw (talk) 04:05, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Monopoly (game)#Spin-offs. I looked at the issues of Games magazine from 1988 and 1989 on the Internet Archive, and it wasn't mentioned once as far as I could tell. No reviews, no listing among the year's best games, not even an advertisement. Maybe there are reliable sources out there, but they will have to be found before this article can be kept. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 04:26, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I want to let you all know that the mention of Free Parking in Monopoly (game)#Spin-offs cites About.com (which we all know today as Dotdash Meredith). According to Wikipedia:RSPS, there is no consensus about Dotdash's reliability, so it should only be used situationally. I don't know about the reliability of the source in the context of Monopoly spin-off games. 1isall (talk/contribs) 12:07, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not to mention that the section the subsection is in (Monopoly (game)#Related games) currently has this tag:

1isall (talk/contribs) 12:18, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I checked the Internet Archive which was difficult due to many false positive regarding the name. I do not know if they would help with notability at all, but I found these:

The false positives from the name definitely made it a challenge, so there is probably more out there. Adding the name of the designer Charles Phillips or the slogan "Feed the Meter" helped weed out the false positives a little bit. BOZ (talk) 22:26, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Those sources are substantially all the same thing. They are the first edition, the second edition, and a French translation of the same book: Philip Orbanes' The Monopoly Companion. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 20:02, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Ping me if this is improved, but for now the article is poor (unreferenced OR), and sources discussed here are weak. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:42, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: I have rewritten the article and added two sources, both websites that explain and review board games. Both seem to be editorially independent and are not a shill to sell the games they review. For that reason, I would suggest that the game seems to be notable. Guinness323 (talk) 06:21, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The sources that you added are Geeky Hobbies and Fun Board Games. The reliability of both of them is unclear, so I will go over to the Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard and ask about them there. 1isall (talk/contribs) 13:40, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per User:Guinness323, also with my sources found above in case they are useful somehow. BOZ (talk) 15:06, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
weak keep Sources seem reliable in context (are we really thinking they aren't reliable in their coverage of games?) but aren't great as noted. GNG is met. Editorially I think this might be better as a merge, but AfD is generally for notability arguments and this seems over the bar--take it to the talk page if you want a merge or redirect here. Hobit (talk) 14:50, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Malinaccier (talk) 18:31, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't know AFD's could get relisted, too. 1isall (talk/contribs) 19:20, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen× ☎ 13:48, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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