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... that when Aline Sitoe Diatta's death was announced, nearly forty years after she died, she was declared a "heroine of Senegal"?
Source: Baum 2009, p. 52; Baum 2016, p. 157.
ALT1: ... that in Dakar, Aline Sitoe Diatta is often called "the woman who was more than a man"? Source: Toliver-Diallo 2005, p. 342.
ALT2: ... that although Senegal commemorates Aline Sitoe Diatta has a heroic figure of resistance, some scholars have argued that she did not have strong links to anti-colonial resistance? Source: Toliver 1999, p. 210, O'Donoghue 2024, pp. 484–485.
As the GA nominator, thank you. Frequently forget to go DYK noms in the required time frame. Personally would remove one of the commas from the first proposal ("...that when Aline Sitoe Diatta's death was announced forty years after she died, she was declared...") and might rephrase ALT2 as "...that although Senegal commemorates Aline Sitoe Diatta has a heroic figure of anti-colonial resistance, some scholars have argued that she did not have strong links to said resistance?" But otherwise am quite happy with these. Not a formal review, though. Spookyaki (talk) 18:19, 8 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Belatedly reopening this nom as I pulled it on the 22nd because of concerns about the hook as outlined in this discussion. The hook still needs some reworking, pinging nominator Spookyaki to alert them of the issue. Thanks, Gatoclass (talk) 11:18, 1 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Spookyaki: There were multiple issues raised with both the hook and the article. The first is that the sentences that supported the hook fact (i.e. her death and the public reveal) lacked footnotes, which needed to be addressed per WP:DYKHFC. The second was that the article did not make it clear exactly when her death was publicly revealed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:51, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5: Okay, I added sentence-level footnotes. The article does make it clear that her death was publicly revealed in 1983, both in the lead and the body. Not really sure how to make that more clear. Spookyaki (talk) 19:28, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No it doesn't because adding cites to the end of sentences doesn't address the problem of lack of clarity in the text. In reviewing the discussion on WT:DYK, however, Spookyaki posted a couple of source quotes, the first of which definitively confirms the original hook. So if that quote was added as a footnote, the original hook would be more than sufficiently verified by the article.
Having said that, I kind of liked my own suggested ALT3 at said discussion, and was hoping it would get some support. If Spookyaki prefers their own hook though, I am certainly not going to stand in the way - just as long as it's adequately sourced per the above. Gatoclass (talk) 13:53, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5, @Gatoclass: I added a footnote, though I don't really think it's necessary, as the paragraph already established that the events in it happened in 1983. Personally, I don't think it's necessary to re-establish the year in every paragraph if it's already been established. One would generally assume that, if a new year hasn't been brought up, that the original year is the one being discussed. However, it's not really worth it to fight about.
No offense, and I know everyone here is trying their best to improve the encyclopedia, but in the future, I would appreciate if processes like these were less obtuse. At no point in the discussion did anyone, aside from @4meter4, ever say what they thought, specifically, was wrong with the original wording. As for myself, I still don't believe that the original wording was unclear at all.
I can understand the frustration. I think part of the problem was that the language in Baum was unfocused and hard to pin down which is why Gatoclass found the source to be unclear. The additional source helped clarify the ambiguity. I read through the article and made a very minor adjustment to the body to make the hook fact easier to find and understand in the body's text in order to help get this passed. I think the original hook should be fine to run now. If alt3 is to be considered it should be copy pasted here. @Spookyaki: Nice article. I enjoyed learning about Diatta. Best.4meter4 (talk) 21:32, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It was never explicitly stated in the article, until the addition of the footnote, that her decease was made public in 1983. Spookyaki above said one should be able to assume as much from the preceding text, but hooks cannot rely on the reader's presumed assumptions, but rather, per the guideline, on definite facts cited in the article. Without the footnote, how would the reader know the investigators didn't sit on the fact for a decade or two before deciding to let the public know? While that might be unlikely, it is certainly within the bounds of possibility - stranger things have happened in politics. Gatoclass (talk) 09:25, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
For context, ALT3 was: ALT3 ... that Aline Sitoe Diatta, a declared heroine of Senegal who died of scurvy in a French concentration camp, may have been a scapegoat? Having said that, it may need to be revised since it does not seem that her being a scapegoat is the scholarly consensus, so the statement would need to be attributed. As the nomination is already over two months old and ALT0 is no longer problematic, that can be approved alone in the interest of this moving forward. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:18, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I can't, because I need to ask Spookyaki for quotes since the sources are offline, but also because I am still waiting for a revised version of ALT3. Technically this should have already timed out, but with how close this is to passing, it's probably fair to see this through. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:47, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
To be fair to the creator, let's not forget that I allowed this nom to languish in limbo for ten days before reopening here. That occurred because I thought it would be quickly resolved at the WT:DYK discussion, and it took me a while to get back to it and realize that wasn't happening. The creator, in short, should not be penalized for my tardiness, so I think the nom is entitled to a few days more. Gatoclass (talk) 12:13, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Still not the nominator, but since everything is already sufficient for it, I'd support just using ALT0. If we do want to go with ALT3, the people I would associate most with this line of thinking would be Toliver-Diallo and O'Donoghue:
Fall’s suggestion of Aline Sitoe’s misrepresention is crucial. There was a connection between the seemingly coincidental events in the region, but it may be erroneous to view Aline Sitoe as the leader of the unrest in the Lower Casamance. In truth, Aline Sitoe Diatta, by steering Diola revivalism, became a scapegoat for the French administration in the Casamance. Chiefs who may have benefited from the colonial government were equally threatened and alarmed by her power and influence. They readily supplied the adminstration with sufficient evidence to remove Aline Sitoe from the region. Some claim that several chiefs convened the Council of Notables and made the decision to have Aline Sitoe arrested because they were jealous of her authority. One other group affected by Aiine Sitoe’s emergence as a religious leader were Catholic priests; they also supplied information to the case against Aline Sitoe. During the rain ceremonies, Aline Sitoe insisted that everyone had to believe in her gift in order for it to manifest and produce rain. In doing so, Aiine Sitoe offered an alternative to conversion to Catholicism and Islam as she reminded the Diola that traditional institutions were valid and important. (Toliver 1999, p. 210, emphasis mine)
The facts of the Alinesitoué affair are not in dispute here. Rather, my analysis of the "Oussouye Incidents" file shows how the French created their own version of Alinesitoué’s story to justify severe and symbolic punishment of a well-known figure to fend off other potential revolts. The documents contained within the “Oussouye Incidents” file allow us not only to retrace in greater detail the events between Alinesitoué’s initial prophetic vision in 1941 and her arrest in 1943 but also to track the communications taking place among French authorities during this time. I argue that these two parallel subjects—the actual events happening in Oussouye Province and the discourse created by the French about these events—form a dichotomous portrait of Alinesitoué, her followers, and the French themselves. This dichotomy corresponds with two different narratives fabricated by the same French officials at the same time, one official and one confidential. In yearly reports published by colonial officials, Alinesitoué appears as the instigator of rebellion, encouraging Oussouye communities to refuse colonial demands. In the confidential telegrams and notes of the “Oussouye Incidents” file, however, she is a more symbolic than revolutionary figure, revealed as only tangentially related to the uprisings in Oussouye Province. In fact, when considering the attention paid to her seventeen accomplices in the file, she is revealed to be but one of many key figures in the Casamance uprisings. Though the French historically saw the Jola as a threat to the state because of their distinct political culture of individualism—an idea comporting well with the focus on Alinesitoué the individual in official accounts of the uprising—the documents in the "Oussouye Incidents" file show that these uprisings were a largely collective act. The file thus shows us a more complex story than public memory tends to narrate, in which resistance was a product not of one person but of a broader collective.
The "Oussouye Incidents" file expands our understanding of the state's response to colonized resistance, not just in the isolated case of the Alinesitoué affair but in France's colonial holdings altogether. If we look closely at the "Oussouye Incidents" file, it becomes clear that colonial authorities knowingly made Alinesitoué the scapegoat for a larger rebellion. We can find evidence of how French patriarchal views shaped their perception of this historical event and thus influenced their punishment of the prophetess and her followers. The Alinesitoué affair demonstrates the internal mechanisms—and attendant mythmaking—of colonial efforts to quell rebellion in a colonized region. It shows how the French sought to suppress rebellious sentiment as embodied by Alinesitoué and manifested in the brief, but critical, moments of resistance in Oussouye Province. That the French response was such a virulent one shows the perceived threat of oppositional thought in the colonial setting and the fear such thought provoked in colonial authorities, particularly when inspired by a woman.(O'Donoghue 2024, pp. 484-485, emphasis mine)
A potential revision, if the claim needs to be attributed, might say ALT3: ... that declared heroine of Senegal Aline Sitoe Diatta, who died in a French concentration camp, may, according to scholars Wilmetta Toliver-Diallo and Meghan O'Donoghue, have been a scapegoat?
... that Madeleine Tchicaya declined the President's offer to run for a second term in the National Assembly, saying she was "bored to death" of politics?
Comment: Regarding the last hook, it's not technically incorrect (it was a presidency), and the dictator is Gaddafi. Subject has been dead for four years. I understand if the reviewer wishes for the hook to be modified, though, for clarity.
Created by Jolielover (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 27 past nominations.
Approving Alt1 only. QPQ is done. Article is new enough and long enough (barely). No copyright violations and other policy issues detected. Alt0 is vague to the point it could be challenged (ie president of where?/ national assembly of what country?) It also isn't all that interesting, with or without the clarity. Being "bored to death" with your job, even an elected political one, isn't all that unusual. Politicians are human too. Alt2 is also problematic, not only because of the original spin on the fact in the article (requiring original thinking/analysis) but also because it was a self reported fact that is qualified as such in the article but not in the hook. This too could end up at WP:ERRORS. That said, alt1 is interesting and is verifiable to the cited source. I could find no other challenge to this first claim anywhere. It works, and of the three is the best choice.4meter4 (talk) 22:19, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Jolielover: The nomination is now two months old and so this is now DYKTIMEOUT eligible. However, given the circumstances and the very late review, this might be worth being given a short extension to give time for a new hook to be proposed. Can you propose a new hook based on the suggestions given in the discussion? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:11, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Jolielover: I mean to re-propose them here and perhaps refine them further. The "bored to death" angle will need to be revised (if it remains unclear if the "bored to death" wording was hers or the source's, the hook and article could say "reportedly", with attribution in the article). The President angle could be revised to emphasize that she declined the request. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:17, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
...that the President of the Ivory Coast personally requested Madeleine Tchicaya to run for a second term in the country's National Assembly? Source: [1]
...that although Madeleine Tchicaya's father became the "laughing stock" of his community for choosing to educate rather than wed off his daughter, she eventually joined the country's National Assembly? Source: [2]
ALT0b ... that Madeleine Tchicaya declined the President of Ivory Coast's offer to run for a second term in the National Assembly, as she was reportedly "bored to death" of politics?
ALT4: ... that the Republican makeup look is believed to result from applying foundation too dark for the wearer's skin tone and then blending it with the fingers rather than a brush? Source: All the others.
@Launchballer:Well, since they said they "don't have time or energy to fix everything" after removing 6-7K or so, it doesn't look like they have any interest in coming back. and, really, what's the point of going to that length to fix a problem and only afterwards leaving a tag describing the problem? I sure wouldn't do that sort of thing ... it's like adding a whole bunch of sources to an article largely lacking in them, and only then putting {{refimprove}} on the article or section. At the very least leave something on the talk page about some further changes that might be made on the talk page. As it is it's very drive-by ... why identify a problem if you're not willing to fix it or even say how?
Given my experience reviewing ANEW reports, I am averse to removing such tags when I am the one who did the most work on the article, but here I am hard put to see any other alternative.
@Bremps: I've thought about that ... but I don't think a merged article is eligible for DYK. And what might you call it? Cosmetic aesthetic of MAGA? I don't think you could use "Trump" in the title because it would be about more than him or his administration. I think, honestly, if someone had created such an article people would just as readily be suggesting it be split up into something like what we have now. Daniel Case (talk) 19:09, 11 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: The only reason I haven't reviewed this is because I disagree with the entire premise. "Republican makeup" has been a thing since the 2010s. I first saw it in Southern California Republican culture in 2013 or so. Now, I can't speak to why my opinion differs from those in the article, but obviously this article is arguing that the phenomenon only reached peak meme in 2024, and of course that's true, but the reality is that this whole idea is very old. Kimberly Guilfoyle has been sporting the look since maybe 2011? And thinking about that, my guess is that this whole thing originated with how Fox News hosts used makeup, as that would be the simplest explanation that lines up with the facts. Viriditas (talk) 01:17, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I see that the article body mentions that this phenomenon is due to older styles of makeup use going back to the 1980s, while others have connected it to the beauty pageant aesthetic, one that Trump was particularly drawn to in the past. If the lead could make it clear that this "look" is not new, but rather the commentary on its use by Trump admin-associated woman is what is new (not in those words, but with that meaning), that would be great. In many ways, the look is consistent with conservatism, since it is reaching back to the 1980s and the women who use it refuse to use newer and more updated styles instead, in this example, as a way to kowtow and curry favor with Trump. I think the article is fairly well written, but seeing the absence of the historical context in the lead bothered me. Viriditas (talk) 22:32, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If you can find more of that historical context that is reliably sourced, please share it. It wasn't for lack of research that I didn't include anything about it beyond what's already there. Daniel Case (talk) 05:44, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies if you misunderstood what I wrote: I see that the article body mentions that this phenomenon is due to older styles of makeup use. It's already in the article, but not the lead. A few words would fit perfectly in the third paragraph. Your other sources say quite a bit more. For example, you linked to a source by Sam Escobar which indicates that the makeup is associated with 1) old makeup trends from yesteryear, 2) beauty pageants, and 3) stage performers.[3] Other sources that you use say that the look makes the women look older than their true age, which has got to be the strangest fashion style of all time. Most people wear makeup to look younger, not older. This added info would go well in the third paragraph before "an exaggerated aesthetic of gender performance that evokes drag queens". Viriditas (talk) 10:28, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I can't speak to that directly, nor do I necessarily agree with it, but it is certainly one valid argument among many others. My personal issue with this article is the historical framing which feels completely off to me. This specific makeup trend in conservative circles is old, very old; it did not begin with the Trump admin in 2016 or in 2024, but the meme did emerge recently, which confuses the topic in many different ways. I believe it is a notable cultural topic when seen in that light, but not reduced to only the meme, which is admittedly pejorative as we all know. This is why I believe the historical framework needs to be expanded. I believe that the sources show that this makeup trend comes from conservative culture, some of which has roots in older makeup styles, the use of makeup by Fox News hosts, and some kind of intersectionality on top of that. My earliest memories of seeing this kind of thing is on late night television in the 1980s with people like Tammy Faye Messner becoming famous for the excessive makeup style. Later, in the 2000s, Fox News hosts became known for similar makeup. Quite interestingly, in 2012, people started writing about this style.[4][5] And by 2013, I began to see it more and more in the public. I think the only reason it became a popular meme now in the Trump era is because these people are now center stage and the public is forced to see them on the news whether they like it or not. And this is the Fox News presidency, complete with the religious influence, so the makeup connections from both eras are there. My complaint is that this article does not take a holistic, historical view on the entire cultural phenomenon, but instead focuses on a silly meme that only recently emerged. Viriditas (talk) 09:36, 31 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Because that was what turned up when I started researching it. What's in there is as holistic and historical a view as I could find searching on "Republican makeup", "right wing makeup", "MAGA makeup" and "conservative girl makeup". I have not seen any connection to Tammy Faye Bakker, and in any event that was seen at the time as specific to her and having no political connotations.
The connection with Tammy Faye Bakker is through Christianity, conservatism and the culture of the Southern United States. This connection appears almost everywhere. Steven Saylor made this connection in 1991, noting that the women enmeshed in the culture of Texas used makeup in the same way as Bakker. The Atlantic article up above suggests that this same culture was also present at Fox News, both in how the men wanted the women to look and how the women used their approach to makeup within this culture. There's really a lot written about this. Bakker was famous for saying that she never took her makeup off and that Jim had never seen her without makeup. While that might sound like just a offhand quip, there's a lot going on here. IIRC, at the time Bakker was active, there were conservative business rules in place in corporations which required women employees to wear makeup in certain situations. I don't recall when those rules were changed, but I remember one of the major airlines required it around 1989 or so. Also keep in mind that the airline industry was notorious for hiring women to entertain and appear attractive to men up until maybe 1970 or so. Makeup was required to be worn by women for the appreciation of men in this instance. Yes, it's become very fashionable for anti-feminists to say "I wear makeup for me, not for other men", but this is a newer development. This might seem like it has nothing to do with anything, but the reality is that it has everything to do with this subject. Men for a very long time required women to act and behave in a certain way, and their ability to go out into public without makeup was a sign of feminism and women's liberation, in some respects. "Republican makeup" follows this long anti-feminist tradition, although it obviously morphed in several ways to accommodate Trumpism and the resurgence of women wearing extreme amounts of makeup in the tradition of conservative culture and its newer manifestations (for example, tradwife culture). I have no objection to a larger article on this subject but as it stands right now, the current article makes it seem like this whole thing is new when it isn't. Viriditas (talk) 23:38, 31 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Again, blame my sources, not me. It is not the first time—and won't be the last—that one of our articles is limited by what its sources say when a knowledgeable reader can see there should be more to it. From what you've written, I think the best thing you could do is gather up sources, write a scholarly article (or even a mainstream article) about how this isn't as new as current coverage makes it seem (as is, indeed, true of so many things that are only new to people who haven't lived long enough yet, which (granted) is sometimes most of us) and get it published in a reliable source so we can cite it and incorporate your research into the article. Otherwise it's just, well, original research. Daniel Case (talk) 02:21, 1 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As I said in my first reply, some of the material I recommend adding already appears in the sources you used, but you didn't frame it that way. Instead, you assumed that "Republican makeup" refers to "the way women who support or work for Donald Trump apply their cosmetics". That is only one recent use of the term. This subject has been discussed many times before outside that context and both the lead and the article are framed in a way that ignores this overarching topic. Essentially, this is an example of recentism. Journalism, Gender and Power (2019) repeats what The Atlantic found above, noting how Fox News emphasizes what they call "Fox glam": "Women in Fox's largely conservative audience are less squeamish than progressive ones about exploiting their looks". This is the larger phenomenon that I've been referring to, and it's been under discussion for at least 15 years in this context, but also greatly predates it other contexts. For example, this came up before with the discussion about the objectification of Republican Sarah Palin. Heflick & Goldenberg 2011 noted that this subject had been studied in the 1980s and 1990s, with researchers finding "makeup usage leads men and women to rate women as less competent" and "evidence that women's attractiveness and sexualization hurts them when they apply for, or obtain, high status jobs". The researchers discovered that this kind of focus on Palin's appearance (of which makeup was one factor) led to her dehumanization and sense of being unfit for the job of VP. This is not original research. It is part of the "cosmetics dehumanization hypothesis" that Republican makeup trends appear to use. Conservative Christian writer Georgi Boorman was discussing this in 2020.[6]Viriditas (talk) 03:09, 1 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"Instead, you assumed that 'Republican makeup' refers to 'the way women who support or work for Donald Trump apply their cosmetics'." The only thing you should be assuming is good faith. That was what I got out of the sources, as I said. Yes, some of them do mention the long-term trends here ... but not to a very great degree, so of course I didn't make that a prominent part of the article. I am happy to incorporate some of the sources you mentioned earlier and account for them in the article. But, you seem to be carrying on with some disappointment that this wasn't the article you were hoping for it to be, so you keep making suggestions and statements that aren't really supportable by any sources we can use that a reader of your commentary would assume you believe must be in the article.
Merge to Mar-a-Lago face: Given the resistance to making this part of a larger topic on the aesthetic, I think it's best to just merge whatever is salvageable here into a subsection of Mar-a-Lago face per this source. Per Wikipedia: "Mar-a-Lago face is a plastic surgery and fashion trend among American conservative and Republican women to modify their faces with 'detectable' surgery, excessive makeup, fake tans, and 'fake eyelashes, with dark smokey eyes and full lips'". It's obvious that Mar-a-Lago face is the parent topic and at 5283 characters (796 words) is ripe for a merge of this article at 12022 characters (1904 words). Combining the two results in almost the perfect size and topic coverage. I can't imagine any reason for two different articles on the same topic at this time. Viriditas (talk) 03:32, 1 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Since when do we have this sort of discussion in the DYK template? Shouldn't it be on the talk page? How about I make some of the changes you have suggested above, we get it on the Main Page, and then we discuss this merge which is obvious only to you. I for my part found very few sources connecting the two phenomena, or subordinating RM to MaLF. Yes, they're related, but just because the MaLF article connects them in a comma-separated list does not make a case for writing separate articles ... we let our sources do that, and IMO they haven't. (Also, as I noted at the MaLF talk page, the fact that is described as a plastic surgery trend means that some men, like Matt Gaetz, have been discussed in that context, making the article's lede erroneous).
Look, I can see you're itching for us to have an article about the broader historical trend of something we could call, say, Antifeminism and appearance. And you are probably not wrong to want that. So it would probably be a better use of your time to research the sources such an article would need, some of which you have already mentioned, and draft that article. Daniel Case (talk) 01:21, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Given that the merge discussion will take this beyond two months, there does not appear to be a path forward for the nomination at this time. If the article survives its merge discussion, it can be renominated for DYK if it is brought to GA status. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:18, 5 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No, that's not fair. That would allow any one editor to effectively filibuster any nomination of choice to death, because merge discussions regularly take a month or more. I'm not saying it's never a good idea based on the circumstances, but just a merge discussion on its own shouldn't be enough to close. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 15:03, 5 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
+1Thank you. Given that this nomination went utterly unreviewed for most of that two months until Viriditas decided to start this merge discussion, closing it on those grounds at this point would encourage exactly (Redacted) the sort of hypothetical behavior you describe.
I don't think we've established whether we toll for AfDs, because TIMEOUT is still pretty new in the scheme of things; also, i would probably avoid accusing Viriditas of acting in bad faith. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 18:02, 5 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Article is new enough, long enough, and within policy. No copyright violations detected. Hook fact is in the headline of the article cited as well as in the body. No issues found. This hook can be promoted.4meter4 (talk) 00:53, 20 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that Sumpeno Putro's campaign promises included bringing the Italian ambassador to Indonesia to Gunung Kidul within 30 days of taking office? Source: [7]: "Dia berjanji dalam 30 hari pertama dirinya menjabat akan mendatangkan duta besar Itali untuk membuka peluang pasar produksi kayu Gunungkidul"
@Juxlos and @Jeromi Mikhael the current hook is not interesting. Politicians make campaign promises all the time and this one is not particularly note worthy for anyone who knows nothing about the subject. Is there nothing else that can be said about their life? TarnishedPathtalk03:10, 9 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Long enough. New enough. Reliable citations throughout. GA article. Copyright violation unlikely (7.4%) per Earwig. The hook is cited but too long/not on point. You should rewrite it so that Tropical Storm Pabuk is at the center of attention.
Overall: Review completed: DYK nomination meets all requirements. Article created on 15 Sept 2025. Earwig copyvio tool shows all green (max 9%). Article size 674 prose words. Hook size 91 characters. Sources are fine; and article is neutral. The hook could perhaps be more catchy; for example, it could identify the convention. Noleander (talk) 17:17, 20 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sure.
ALT0b: ... that after Jeremy Hambly was attacked outside Gen Con, Gen Con banned him?
Overall: Nomination is solid and ready for mainpage. Article has been moved to mainspace within the required timeframe, and exceeds the minimum length threshold. Well-sourced, maintains neutral tone, no signs of plagiarism, and hook is cited and attention-grabbing. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael14:36, 24 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Juxlos, Jeromi Mikhael, TarnishedPath, and Theleekycauldron: If "hook not being interesting" is the only reason for pulling it, when a nominator, reviewer and prep builder did think it was interesting, well, that gives us nothing at all to talk about here. Regarding leeky's commentI was a bit concerned that the hook could come off like 'oh, look at the strange habits of non-Westerners!', per the Pew Research Center polygamy is quite rare worldwide, even in many non-western cultures, and thus it wouldn't really be a western/non-western dichotomy and more something that is genuinely rare (even in Indonesia, according to Pew). Pulling a hook is obviously the queuer's prerogative, but doing it on subjective criteria doesn't really give us anything to discuss here. TarnishedPath, since Leeky's objection to the hook was putting her name on it and did not necessarily apply to other queuers, do you mind returning this to a prep for another queuer to consider? Dclemens1971 (talk) 02:05, 9 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
From the article: "As mayor, Arlan designated 800 hectares of land within the city as agricultural land, which could be used by farmers at no charge." TarnishedPathtalk02:34, 9 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
What is interesting about a politician introducing his spouse to the public? They do it all the time. The fact that there are four spouses doesn't make it "interesting", it only makes it xenophobic to point it out. --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 17:08, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Reviewing for promotion @BeanieFan11 and Piotrus: I know Pro Football Reference is generally considered a reliable source, but per WP:DYKDEFINITE ("hooks with exceptional claims require exceptional sourcing"), can we comfortably rely solely on a database site to ensure the "only native Syrian in NFL" claim is accurate? Dclemens1971 (talk) 23:06, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@BeanieFan11: I'd say that second source helps a lot. It's still a bit WP:OR-y in that it doesn't say he was the only one; we're just meant to infer that from the fact that he's the only one listed under Syria. But complementing the Pro Football Reference source I think it's probably enough. You'll note I didn't remove the tick so this remains good to go for any promoter who doesn't have further questions. Dclemens1971 (talk) 00:04, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that Sławomir has been described as the "king" of the fusion genre rock-polo? Source: Pilawski, Patrycjusz (7 January 2018). "OJ UW - rock polo". nowewyrazu.uw.edu.pl. University of Warsaw. Archived from the original on 10 August 2020. Retrieved 20 September 2025. Gatunek muzyczny łączący elementy rocka i disco polo [...] "Sławomir, król nietypowego nurtu muzycznego, rock-polo, rozgrzał wczoraj nowogrodzką publiczność do czerwoności"
For me, the article meets the nomination criteria (technically, 7 days and a few hours from creation to nomination, but close enough). It is well-designed and very well-documented. For an image, I would suggest this Dieckmann erich moebelbau 1931, which has been published very frequently, as it is his book. (On https://imjustcreative.com/erich-dieckmann-metal-tube-chair/2019/12/15, for example) and a new beginning Erich Dieckmann designed furniture that grew organically and wasn't cobbled together—from an elephant's body, a bay leaf, a spider's leg, if you will. (from his quote) (talk) Birkho (talk) 08:20, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Birkho: I'm confused why you have left a review here. Maybe it is different on dewiki, but on enwiki the DYK process only requires a single reviewer, and it's generally best for the reviewer not to be someone who has been a major contributor to the article. I suggest you strike your review (or at least remove the symbol) to avoid confusion. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 23:44, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Pi.1415926535: Hello, yes, it's different here on dewiki. You can make suggestions and participate in the discussion, and the best introduction and image will be chosen. One question: Why does the image have licensing issues, given that it's available on Wikipedia Commons? Can I help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Birkho (talk • contribs)
Article is new enough (technically 7 days and a few hours from creation to nomination, but close enough) and long enough. It is well-sourced, neutral, copyvio-free, and presentable. A new hook is needed (see WP:HOOK) – the current hook is improperly formatted, does not appear in the article, and is not verified by the given citation. I am also concerned about the image – the source is a non-functional link with no further details, making it impossible to verify that it was actually anonymously published. Either a correct link that verifies the anonymous publication needs to be found, or the image should be removed from this nomination. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 00:52, 4 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Ariegel: The revised hook is better, but it appears to be a broad summation of the article rather than a specific fact that is included in the article. The claimed source is not used in the article and does not contain any information other than birth/death dates. Additionally, the copyright issue with the image has not been resolved. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 23:44, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Pi.1415926535: Hello again, here a new proposal: another picture by Erich Dieckmann; or one of his stylish chairs, which is my recommendation, the photo is public domain. Both pictures are shown in the link, hope this helps. * Light club chair 1926 Erich Dieckmann
And here is a new hook (this is the heart of the matter): Did you know that Erich Dieckmann, one of the most productive and innovative furniture designers of the Bauhaus is almost forgotten today?Ariegel (talk) 15:06, 8 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: Hi there. I did not use ChatGPT to write the reply or the article, btw I am an expert for the bauhaus movement and don't need AI for this matter :) I did ask ChatGPT if my formating is right, because I messed it up, and Pi.1415926535 did not respond to my call for help but fortunately another experienced Wikipedian (a human) could help me.
@Launchballer: Hi there. I didn't want to interfere with the nomination and wasn't familiar with your rules, but Ariegel asked me for support, since we're both working on this Erich Dieckmann project. You've already read that we take a different approach on dewiki. Now the question: why was Ariegel's post considered vandalism? What do you want to delete, and what happens next? Please clear up any misunderstandings. Which hook and which image will be selected, since this is the issue at hand! I kindly ask for your support, and if I can help, please ping me!Birkho (talk) 09:08, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The "Wikipedia:Did you know nominations/..." page wasn't vandalism, but was a duplicate (nominations belong at "Template:Did you know nominations/...") and was deleted as housekeeping. I will examine the hooks at a later date.--Launchballer00:33, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The article is new enough, long enough, and features appropriate citations. Earwig's shows no copyvio. However, I don't see the fact about the theatre prize in the article. ✦ Saltymagnolia ✦14:54, 26 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, intermittent internet, and engineer dropped key*oard which no longer has letter which is *etween a and c in alpha*et. ALT0 fact was later removed from article.
ALT1 ... that Frank Nimsgern's Magic Flute won a Musical of the Year award, at The Musical Awards in Germany. (sourse: here.)
... that Cheney Lively was the first Black property owner and permanent resident of Indianapolis, Indiana?
Source: Scott, Kate (2020). "Cheney Lively: A Black Woman on the Indiana Frontier". Traces of Indiana and Midwestern History. Vol. 32, no. 2. pp. 29–37
Reviewed:
Created by Ssafder (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
This is not a review, but per WP:DYKHOOKCITE, "first" hooks are now discouraged on DYK unless such claims have airtight sourcing. Right now, the claim that Lively was the first black permanent resident of Indianapolis is unreferenced; however, even if it was, the claim is so exceptional that it is unlikely to gain consensus. Please propose a different hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:33, 26 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1: ... that Cheney Lively was the only Black female head of household in Indianapolis listed in the 1830 census?
Source: Scott, Kate (2020). "Cheney Lively: A Black Woman on the Indiana Frontier". Traces of Indiana and Midwestern History. Vol. 32, no. 2. pp. 29–37
Overall: Article was moved to mainspace on 27 September and is 600 words (3,878 characters) in length. It is fully sourced, neutral and free from plagiarism (per Earwig results) QPQ is done. The hook is cited and interesting, although I think there are other facts in the article that could lend themselves to hooks as well. I'm happy to approve this as is, but would suggest one or two alt hooks to choose from. Grnrchst (talk) 21:10, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think I'm blanking on hooks because research for this article was a slog, so the only other one I got is
@Lajmmoore: Long enough, new enough. QPQ done and Earwig is clean. Not all of the hook is sourced - "British anthropologist" is in the lead unsourced, and the only reference to "Marsh Arabs" I can find is to the book The Marsh Arabs - but as this is earmarked for Trans Day of Rememberance (see WT:DYK#Proposed thematic set) and so is Masoud El Amaratly, you may wish to consider a double hook.--Launchballer06:48, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Launchballer - so the various writers on the topic use Marsh Arab/Ahwari interchangeably. I used Ahwari in the article as its the term used by the most recent scholarship, but Ahwari redirects to the article on Marsh Arabs. I've cited Thesiger now as explorer, so a revised ALT would be:
ALT0a ... that British explorer Wilfred Thesiger recorded information on the mustarjil, a gender identity associated with the Marsh Arabs of Iraq?
Source: Galbraith, Stuart (2002). The Emperor and the Wolf:The Lives and Films of Akira Kurosawa and Toshiro Mifune. USA: Faber and Faber. p. 473. ISBN0-571-19982-8.
Neither of these hooks meets WP:DYKINTEREST. Obviously government support makes it easier for the company. While one strike being larger/more significant than another is certainly not DYK worthy. (t · c) buidhe16:54, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hook not supported by article. It might be the case that the football saved his life, but it doesn't appear that he knew that at the time and therefore didn't "play soccer to save his life". (t · c) buidhe18:52, 5 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1: ... that Rwandan rebel David Munyurangabo saved his life by drinking toilet water and playing soccer?
Given that the only source for both tidbits seems to be an interview with the subject, I do not agree that we should be running it on the main page. (t · c) buidhe21:15, 5 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT2: ... that Rwandan rebel David Munyurangabo claimed that he saved his own life by drinking toilet water and playing soccer?
Per DYK rules, "The wording of the article, hook, and source should all agree with each other with respect to who is providing the information". Although not explicitly forbidden, I also don't think it's a great idea to base a hook on what the subject says about himself. Is there any potential for other hooks here that are based more on independent sources than the subject or Rwandan media? given the press freedom issues in Rwanda it's doubtful that media can be considered independent of the government, or even a reliable source for anything the government has an interest in. (t · c) buidhe21:45, 6 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree with your assessment of this information. The New Times itself is indeed state-owned, but the hook is not controversial or propaganda-related; the content in question is also not exactly flattering for Munyurangabo. His role in the Inyenzi movement is also mentioned by other sources, so the events' circumstances are not disputed. Hooks of other DYKs are also often sourced to self-claims by people. Yet if the decision is made to not accept the interview as a hook source, I'm going to accept it (my holiday starts tomoroow anyway, so I cannot edit for three weeks). Regarding alternative hooks, nothing particularily hook-y comes to my mind. Oh well. Applodion (talk) 22:04, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
While not ideal, considering the circumstances of his life, and how the fact here is the claimed to drink toilet water rather than him actually doing it (which is another question entirely), it should be acceptable in this case. Yes, it's a somewhat contentious claim, but I do not see why he would lie about it. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:16, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
When faced with the chores of filthy pots and pans, cutlery and crockery, a quick immersion into Bucktooth-infested waters works wonders in getting shot of those ground-in scraps of food, Brillo pad style."
Hi Quetzal1964, article is well enough written; cited inline throughout to what look to be reliable sources for the subject; image is good enough and appropriately licensed; I have a slight concern over the hook as the source prefaces it with "apparently", is there a more robust source that can be used or an alternative hook that can be proposed? I also don't think the article meets WP:DYKNEW at the moment. The pre-existing article at 2 June 2025 has 1352 characters, the current article measures, by my count 3,864 characters, still someway off the required 5x expansion. Can it be expanded further? - Dumelow (talk) 13:29, 21 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Dumelow When I started expanding this article it was almost completely without citations, so arguably it is a completely new article. I would struggle to get it to over 6000KB. I have given a more definite reference to the dish washing. Quetzal1964 (talk) 19:09, 21 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Quetzal1964, I sympathise with your position as you have done great work expanding the article and fully citing it. Unfortunately DYK tends to be quite strict over the requirement for 5x expansion (see WP:5X); the only exception is if the pre-existing content was a copyright violation. You might try asking for a waiver for this article at Wikipedia talk:Did you know, but I have never seen one go through - Dumelow (talk) 05:54, 22 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not comfortable with asserting that Tilly Norwood exists, actually. I'm also not comfortable with the article using gendered pronouns for the Tilly construct. DS (talk) 19:48, 30 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Your discomfort comes without justification and is inconsistent with you using the term "Tilly construct" for a subject you claim doesn't exist. If you're right then what are you talking about? This sentence exists, pictures exist, stories exist, your prejudice exists and line blurring metafictions like Tilly exist. 2A02:C7E:205B:3D00:ADF7:E53:C019:2ACB (talk) 09:30, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
SAG-AFTRA's criticism of the character seems more significant than unnamed "multiple Hollywood actresses". Listing the names of notable actresses could also make it a better hook. FallingGravity01:58, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
SAG-AFTRA isn't likely to mean anything to anyone unfamiliar with the industry. Naming the actresses might add interest, but I'm disinclined to go there given what happened at Michelle Pfeiffer (Ethel Cain song). As for the gendered pronouns, I've said my piece at the talk page, in as much that (in my opinion) avoiding their use would be silly.--Launchballer04:56, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We could run ALT2: ... that the talk page for Wikipedia's article about Tilly Norwood(pictured) has been described as "a fascinating window into the semantic debates that our society is facing more broadly" as a result of AI? on 15 January, Wikipedia's 25th. (I'm guessing I can't nominate a talk page and run it as a double nom?)--Launchballer14:42, 2 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(seeing this DYK on the article TP). I do think that ALT1 is very good - this whole area is scary, but that is the point and that hook captures it perfectly. Aszx5000 (talk) 11:23, 4 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
For the record, I strongly object to this item appearing on DYK at all. Documenting the existence of "TillyNorwood.exe", sure. Taking any further steps to promote it in the public consciousness and thereby boost its commercial viability — and don't bullshit yourself, that's exactly what this would be doing — no. Same reason we don't have DYKs on political candidates when they're running for office. DS (talk) 15:12, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, WP:DYKNOT dictates that we must not provide inappropriate advantage for commercial/political causes. It also says "it is fine to cover topics of commercial or political interest". Norwood is not a cause.-Launchballer07:52, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If you're convinced that you absolutely must slobber in adulation all over Xicoia/Particle6, fine. ALT1b: that the creation of Tilly Norwood(pictured) has been described as "really, really scary"?
Regarding the sourcing, I don't see any mentions at WP:SCHOLARSHIP that says that Bachelor theses are unreliable. I admit that there were too many positive quotes, but as of my comment, I think that these concerns have been dealt with. If on its own the hook does not provide enough context, it could be added that she was also for 28 years, the last Ecuadorian tennis player to qualify for the Olympics (e.g. "...that María Cabrera was the first Ecuadorian table tennis player to participate in the Olympics and became the last to do so until 28 years later?"), since that's pretty much what she's most famous for. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 17:59, 10 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Bogazicili: If you have time it would be great if you or any other native speaker could expand tr:Vikipedi:Güvenilir kaynaklar/Mütemadi kaynaklar - I can't speak for the nominator but sometimes it is hard for me to judge the quality of a foreign language source. Having said that I should be able to fix a few of the English language cites - for example I don't know Agenzia Nova but hopefully would be able to find a source I know to be reliable for the minister's statement. Are there claims in the article you find particularly important which are poorly cited? Chidgk1 (talk) 12:38, 14 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that Tzuyang has a stomach size 40% larger than others of her size, helping her to stay slender despite binge eating constantly? Source: "Doctors have revealed that her stomach is 40 per cent larger than the average size for someone of her stature, and even exceeds that of many adult men." SCMP
ALT1 ... that Tzuyang started streaming herself binge-eating online to finance her large appetite? Source: "쯔양은 지난해 한 방송에 출연해 "대학 시절 자취를 하면서 생활비가 부족할 정도로 식비가 나가다 보니까 주변에서 먹방을 해보라고 추천했고 사실 하루 만원만 벌면 좋겠다는 마음으로 시작했다". (Google translation: Tzuyang appeared on a broadcast last year and said, "When I was living alone in college, I had to spend so much money on food that I didn’t even have enough money to live on, so people around me recommended that I try mukbang. I actually started it with the thought that it would be nice to earn just 10,000 won a day,")" Maeil
ALT2 ... that Tzuyang turned to mukbang after struggling to pay for her daily expenses while living alone as a college student? (same source as ALT1)
Reviewed:
Created by Robertsky (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
ALT0 seems medically dubious and doesn't make sense. Having a large stomach would make it possible to eat more at once, but how is it related to calorie expenditure? (t · c) buidhe19:10, 10 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not only that but it seems like ALT1 may fail verification based on the quote provided, since it says she needed money for living expenses. (t · c) buidhe22:27, 21 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Source: The Television [ja] (link): （『エヴァンゲリオン』の中で）ミサトさんがシンジ君を見守るように、すず子には雀さんを見守っていてほしいですし、私の幼少期から人生にかけて、ずっとそばにいた『セーラームーン』のように、すず子には雀さんのそばにいてほしいなという思いからお願いしました。[Just as Misato (from Evangelion) watches over Shinji, I wanted Suzuko to watch over Suzume, and just like how Sailor Moon was always by my side in my childhood, I wanted Suzuko to be by Suzume's side, so I asked [Kotono Mitsuishi].]
Source: Animate (link): （「最初は、外国人風の淫魔おじさんが地球に降ってくる」という設定のSFストーリーの企画が練られており、本作とは全く異なる物語を構想していたと語るマミタ先生。「サキュバスのおっさんだから、“おじキュバス”という新しいジャンルを作ろうとしていたんですけど……」という先生の発言に、客席から「ふふっ」と笑い声が漏れる一幕も。[Mamita said that they had planned to create a sci-fi story that, "at first, was going to be about a Western-looking older man who descends to Earth", and the story they had envisioned was completely different. When they confessed, "I wanted to create a new genre called old-man-ccubus, because it was about an older man succubus", the audience burst out in laughter.]
ALT3: ... that the 2025 Australian federal election was the first time since 2004 that an Australian Prime Minister had won a second term? Source:https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cevdw14r1mgt "Anthony Albanese's re-election makes him the first Australian prime minister to win back-to-back elections since John Howard in 2004."
Recently promoted GA. Obviously long enough. Somewhat predictably, some of the lead content does not appear in the body and consequently is not sourced either, e.g. "The election marked the fourth time in Australian history that a government secured at least ninety House of Representatives seats (after 1975, 1996 and 2013)". I am also not able to find references to the student debt promise outside the lead. The first paragraph in 2025_Australian_federal_election#Results does not cite any sources, and some of the information presented there is not found anywhere else in the article, e.g. the name Rebekah Sharkie. There is more unsourced content in 2025_Australian_federal_election#Domestic_reactions. Could this be fixed, GraziePrego? Surtsicna (talk) 15:35, 9 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Surtsicna: I'll try and address as much of this as I can as GraziePrego has been offline for 5 days. Note that some of the content you've pointed to is transclusions from other articles (most of the results section), but I'll see what I can do. TarnishedPathtalk08:38, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Jeromi Mikhael, I haven't looked at the article yet, but I'm wondering--why should it matter to the front page reader that this diplomat was the only Indonesian at a wedding of someone who for most people is relatively unknown? Adding "India's wedding of the year" might add some importance to the wedding, but it doesn't really do much for the diplomat. And now that I've read the article--I gotta say that some of the sourcing (notes 2 and 3 in the current version, which includes the source for the wedding) is really a bit too much of the "watch this wonderful celebrity" kind. Drmies (talk) 21:56, 6 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Drmies: Hi thanks for your concern. To start with your first question, I think the fact that the wedding itself has its own article warrants some importance, at least based on Wikipedia's notability threshold. I do understand your concern regarding the notability, but the wedding itself is frequently listed in the "book of superlatives" (books of the most..., record book, etc) due to its cost. Also, I do understand your concern regarding the sourcing, but so far I don't see any problem with the source since it's a verified and registered news outlet here in Indonesia. If you have any other concerns other than the "stereotype" of the news outlet I'd be happy to address and discuss that with you. Lastly, I could offer an ALT hook, but I do understand that it'll undergo scrutiny from the community even further since it is a "first" hook:
ALT1 : ...that when Irene was appointed Indonesia's deputy ambassador to China, she became the first person in that role to be installed directly by the president? Source #10 in the article (at its current version)
This one might be less scrutinized but I'm not too optimistic about its possibility.
ALT2 : ...that Indonesia's deputy ambassador to China Irene was also a member of a socialite association called the "Girls Squad" alongside Indonesian celebrities? Source #3 in the article (at its current version)
Jones said that throughout his long career, Saru was the first role he was ever offered as first choice with no audition.[2] "I have waited, all my life, for the moment to happen, where a big role in a big series was just being offered to me, based on reputation alone, and it was humbling," he said.[2]
A year before the first season of Star Trek: Discovery aired, in November 2016, actor Doug Jones was cast as Saru, an alien known as a Kelpien, a newly created species for the Star Trek universe.[1] Bryan Fuller offered Doug Jones the role of Saru, telling Jones "he was the one the show needed," which made the veteran creature actor feel his career was "back on."[2] Prior to being offered the role of Saru, Jones considered moving away from and winding down his signature prosthetics acting work after decades in the make-up chair.[2]
Improved to Good Article status by Very Polite Person (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 14 past nominations.
@Very Polite Person: Article new enough (GA Oct 9), long enough (14 KB), no copyvio. However, I see one issue with sourcing: CinemaBlend is considered an unreliable source. I also can't find any discussions about some Star Trek-specific sources (such as TrekCore), but it appears that the GA reviewer is familiar enough with Star Trek, so I will trust that these sources are reliable. As for the hook itself, it is interesting and verified in the source. However, as mentioned above, the image is not acceptable. The hook should also avoid the word "iconic". — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs)23:23, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
New enough (created as a draft six days ago; moved two days afterward), long enough (1,600+ words at this writing), and verifiable enough (Inquirer.net is the official site of the Philippine Daily Inquirer, a national newspaper of record). The two versions of the blurb above are the same (with a couple of contextual differences); leaving it up to the DYK coords to determine which is better.
Earwig reports an 87.6% match from the Inquirer source, but the text in question (Roxas' request for clemency) is blockquoted. I may upgrade my rating to {{DYKyes}} once someone else at DYK clears things up.
As a reminder, this is my first QPQ since the start of my self-exile from WP last year, so bear with me here in case I'm not up to par.
I'm having a look since this is a bromance we shouldn't miss out on. PritongKandule, first of all, I suggest you take the first hook and add something--I mean, who are these people? So, "DYK that Japanese officer Jimbo saved future Philippine president Roxas..." or something like that. Second, I'm looking at the article and I'm not totally happy with the short paragraphs/newspaper style of the main text. I think a bit of reordering would be good, but moreover, Roxas just gets dumped in there, in the WWII section, "Manuel Roxas (who had just escaped from Corregidor)"--that needs a note on who Roxas was at the time, etc. That's not a simple copy edit; I can't do that for you. Things that need copyediting are phrases like "instead of resentment" (does not match the grammar of the main clause), "...decision unwilling", "by those that issued"... The executed chief justice and consul general also fall into the narrative out of nowhere: are they important? The long quote, the entire letter--personally I think that's too long, and I would use only a few phrases from it, enough to get the "personal" point across. Let me know what you think. Drmies (talk) 22:06, 6 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Reviewed by me; nominated for DYK just hours within the 7 day/168 hour window. I requested MRSC, the GA nom, to provide a quote as the source is paywalled.
Improved to Good Article status by MRSC (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 14 past nominations.
Here's a quote from the source "Carlton took up the artistic director post in 1997, during a time of financial difficulty for the venue. As well as being credited with saving it from closure, he was behind the theatre’s readmission into Arts Council England’s national portfolio." MRSC (talk) 17:10, 16 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The DYK text should probably say "survived without arts council funding" as the local authority (who own the theatre) were still providing funding. MRSC (talk) 11:06, 18 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ah ok. I have edited the hook. I didn't think the theatre still had some funding other than from consumers, just not arts council. I also think that 'between 1985 and 2000' sounds better than 'from 1985 to 2000'. JuniperChill (talk) 11:36, 18 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that the German "management guru" Reinhard Höhn who from 1956 trained thousands of West German civil servants and CEOs had been a committed Nazi and SS officer?
Source: Johann Chapoutot, Free to Obey How the Nazis Invented Modern Management
Reviewed:
Created by Scarp-bolt (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
Article created 2 days before nom. Sufficient length. Solid secondary sources. No significant neutrality issues.
Unfortunately, I cannot complete verifiability/copyvio spot-checks because the citations include no page numbers. For example, citation 4 is a 120-page book cited multiple times, but no page numbers are displayed.
Same applies to the hook: no page number = no way for me to verify.
... that "Somos Más Americanos" ("We Are More American"), described as an immigrant anthem, was included by Rolling Stone in its list of "The 250 Greatest Songs of the 21st Century So Far"?
Overall: A new article that is long enough. The sources are adequate, it is written without bias, and it is free of copyvios. No images to review. QPQ done, although I don't understand the issue with you being the creator of the page 17 years ago since you haven't edited that page since 2009. I found one issue:
1. The lyrics section includes one single source, which might fall into WP:ELNEVER, unless the lyrics are licensed by the copyright owner. I read other sources discussing the lyrics, so those sources might be better alternatives Tbhotch™ (CC BY-SA 4.0) 04:02, 6 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am a little confused. I tried to limit the quoting of lyrics and integrated quotes with discussion. What can I do to resolve your issue? Cbl62 (talk) 14:00, 9 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not talking about the lyrics themselves, I'm talking about lyricstranslate.com. It doesn't seem to indicate that copyright holders have allowed the website to use copyrighted lyrics on it. Per WP:SONG#LYRICS: "Per Wikipedia policy, please do not link to websites that are in violation of the artist's own copyright. See Wikipedia:Copyrights#Linking to copyrighted works". You have sources available discussing the lyrics. Use those sources instead analyzing the lyrics. Tbhotch™ (CC BY-SA 4.0) 00:30, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Source: Rogers, Guy MacLean (2022). For the Freedom of Zion: The Great Revolt of Jews against Romans, 66–74 CE. Yale University Press. ISBN 978-0-300-24813-5. p. 382: "The spoils from the war were carried along in massive heaps. Of these, those taken from the Temple in Jerusalem were most conspicuous. There was a golden table weighing many talents and also a golden lampstand (menorah), with its seven branches." p. 393: "The panel on the southern side of the Arch of Titus in Rome showing Roman soldiers carrying the spoils from the Jerusalem Temple."
ALT1: ... that the Roman army that besieged Jerusalem during the First Jewish–Roman war was larger than the force used in the Roman invasion of Britain in 41 CE? Source: "Last Year in Jerusalem: Monuments of the Jewish War in Rome" (2005). In Edmondson, Jonathan; Mason, Steve; Rives, James (eds.). Flavius Josephus and Flavian Rome. Vol. 3. Oxford University Press. pp. 101–128. doi:10.1093/acprof:oso/9780199262120.003.0006. ISBN 978-0-199-26212-0. p. 101: "To put these figures in perspective, the forces committed to the siege were significantly larger than those which had been deployed for the invasion of Britain in 43"
ALT2: ... that the triumphal procession celebrated by Vespasian and Titus after their conquest of Jerusalem during the First Jewish–Roman War is the most fully documented triumph of the Imperial period? Source: "Last Year in Jerusalem: Monuments of the Jewish War in Rome" (2005). In Edmondson, Jonathan; Mason, Steve; Rives, James (eds.). Flavius Josephus and Flavian Rome. Vol. 3. Oxford University Press. pp. 101–128. doi:10.1093/acprof:oso/9780199262120.003.0006. ISBN 978-0-199-26212-0. p. 101: "Readers of Josephus' Jewish War will be familiar with the magnificent description in Book 7 of the triumph which Vespasian and Titus celebrated in Rome in 71 CE, a year after the capture of Jerusalem and the destruction of the Temple. Not all readers, however, will realize that this is the fullest description which survives of any triumph held in the Imperial period."
ALT3: ... that during the siege of Jerusalem in 70 CE, the future Roman emperor Titus led a reconnaissance mission that almost turned deadly when he narrowly escaped a Jewish ambush? Source: Rogers, Guy MacLean (2022). For the Freedom of Zion: The Great Revolt of Jews against Romans, 66–74 CE. Yale University Press. ISBN 978-0-300-24813-5. p. 305: "After Titus’s peace offer was left unanswered he took a reconnaissance team of 600 handpicked cavalrymen along the road ... The Jews broke through the cavalry still advancing along the high road and cut Titus and his companions off from the main scouting force ... Wearing neither a helmet nor a breastplate, Titus was fortunate to make it safely, using his sword to protect himself, as a multitude of arrows whistled by. Two of the cavalrymen who rode with him were not so lucky."
ALT4: .. that during the siege of Jerusalem in the First Jewish Revolt, the Romans crucified prisoners in various positions to intimidate the defenders into surrender? Source: Rogers, Guy MacLean (2022). For the Freedom of Zion: The Great Revolt of Jews against Romans, 66–74 CE. Yale University Press. ISBN 978-0-300-24813-5. p. 327: "Those who were caught and resisted were beaten, tortured, and crucified by the Romans in front of the walls of the city. Five hundred or more perished daily by such executions. Josephus tells us that Titus hoped that the spectacle of these crucifixions might persuade those still within the city to surrender. The soldiers, meanwhile, amused themselves by nailing their victims to crosses in different positions. There were so many victims that the Romans ran out of space to put up the crosses and even crosses to nail prisoners to."
Long enough and recently improved to GA. It's a long article, but as far as I can see it's fully cited: there are a few ancient texts used, but as far as I can tell they're all supported by a reliable secondary source, so WP:PRIMARY does not cause us a problem. QPQ has been started and seems earnest enough to count, even though it's not concluded yet.The hooks are all cited but some are a bit long or otherwise might fall foul of WP:DYKINT. I think ALT3 is good to go as is (though perhaps amend "future emperor" for "Roman commander"), and ALT4 could be shortened to ... that during the siege of Jerusalem in the First Jewish Revolt, the Romans crucified prisoners in various positions to intimidate the defenders into surrender?ALT0 is a little meandering and may not be particularly interesting; ALT1 might pass the bar but requires a bit of contextual knowledge (how many readers will know how big the army that invaded Britain was, or how far apart these events were?); even as a classicist I struggle to get excited about ALT2.There are a few issues with the media that should have been picked up at GA review:
I cannot find a citation to a reliable source anywhere in the geneaology of File:Siege of Jerusalem (70 CE)-en.svg: it would be good to cite something on the Commons page that shows that this isn't completely made up.
I've removed the map from the article. Besides the missing source, it appears inaccurate: the map shows the Third Wall following today's Old City walls, whereas most scholars place the original Third Wall further north, based on excavations north of the Old City. Until a map based on a reliable source is available, I think it would be best to omit it. Mariamnei (talk) 16:22, 14 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
File:19 Shrine of the Book 005.jpg seems to be a work of digital reconstruction by a Wikimedian -- what reason do we have to believe it's reliable? Information conveyed in image form is covered by WP:V just as much as text.
OK, that needs to be reflected on the Commons page. Unless Michael Avi-Yonah is the Wikimedian who uploaded the picture, the licence there is at least incomplete. UndercoverClassicistT·C17:51, 18 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The description has been updated to clarify that this is a photograph of a scale model originally designed by Michael Avi-Yonah. Since the uploader is the photographer, the existing public-domain licence appears to be valid. Mariamnei (talk) 20:09, 20 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Italy does not have freedom of panorama, so File:Arch of Titus Menorah.png needs a tag for the original work. Italian law on publishing images of archaeological remains is complicated and restrictive, but my understanding is that Wikimedia only requires that the remains themselves are old enough to be PD in Italy and the US.
This is not a photo of the original relief, as the Wikimedia Commons caption suggests, but an image of a replica created for the ANU – Museum of the Jewish People in Tel Aviv (presumably made with Italian permission). How can we make sure that its use complies with the requirements? Mariamnei (talk) 16:22, 14 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
At minimum, we need full information about the object on the Commons page, with an explanation of why it's PD (the object as well as the photograph) in both the US and the source country. UndercoverClassicistT·C17:51, 18 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've added more detail to the file page. It now says that this is a photo of a modern replica of the Arch of Titus menorah relief, displayed at the ANU Museum of the Jewish People, and so on. The original relief in Rome is of course ancient and I guess supposed to be public domain everywhere. The replica seems to be a faithful reproduction rather than a creative reinterpretation, so it likely doesn't create new copyright. As for the photo, it was taken by the uploader and released under a free license, so it should be fine under both US and Israeli copyright law. Mariamnei (talk) 20:09, 20 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The threshold for creating a new copyright on the replica (not the original work) is very low indeed -- a photograph of an ancient coin, in the view of the WMF, is eligible for copyright. Electrotypes, casts and so on are always considered a new copyright, as are paintings of paintings (see this example). Israeli standards are one thing, but everything on Wikipedia needs to be PD in the United States, as that's where the WMF's servers are located. UndercoverClassicistT·C11:31, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've added a PD tag for the original illumination (early 16th century) and updated the description to make that clearer. The CC0 release from the National Library of Wales already covers the digital image, so I guess this should now be fine, but please let me know if anything still looks incomplete. Mariamnei (talk) 20:09, 20 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
...or the beginning of a new era for both WP and my AFC prospects? — This contributor, May 31 appeal at WP:RFUD
Returning to DYK--in earnest--well after taking some self-exile from WP in the wake of Milton's aftermath and concerns over my reviewing style at the time. Took four months to get this finally going (and off an AFC queue that became rather worse for wear in my near-absence), but here we finally are. (Not to mention the throughline of this 1995 title strongly brings another, more recent DYK-to-be to mind--and my own off-WP writing career to date; you'll figure it out after you select "Draft" as a namespace option on my contributions list as of this writing.)
Another G13 appeal, concerning a kidlit title promised on said queue for ages, is on the horizon. Wish me luck till then...
Moved to mainspace by Slgrandson (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 15 past nominations.
New enough: Expansion is not counting overall article size but prose size. Using DYK Check, pre-expansion prose was 245 characters, now it is 2149 characters (almost 9-fold increase).
Adequate sourcing: That is not policy, nor a reasonable position to say that corporate sources are unreliable. It may be true that some companies will exaggerate their accomplishments, but this is a statistic about all mines there, which this company will know better than anyone else.
Neutral: This refers to WP:NPOV in the article, not the sources. Even so, the sources (very typical for such places) are used to validate statements, not to prove notability, and moreover, the offline book Our Timiskaming does have an in-depth chapter on Gowganda.
Cited: This checkbox is not about sources, but whether or not the hook is in the article and cited. It is.
Interesting: This is subjective of course, but obviously not all hooks are going to be spectacular, you have to consider this in the context of the subject. In any case, I'm always open to suggestions.
My mistake RE 5x. My NPOV concern is that neutrality is based on presentation of all POVs as substantiated in reliable sources. If all of the sources are passing mentions, it's hard to say whether you're capturing all POVs on the subject. RE sourcing, corporate websites don't necessarily fact check and the source is being used in the article for more than the hook fact. DYK requires each paragraph cite to a reliable source. I maintain that this hook is a mundane fact that is not interesting. voorts (talk/contributions) 18:40, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Your comment on capturing all POVs would make sense if this were a controversial subject where people have different takes on it. Can't see how that applies here, first time in my over 100 DYK's this comes up, so I don't even know what POV you would expect here. As for reliability of its website, of course a mining company would know exactly how much was extracted, this is not some subjective claim. Anyway, I will prepare an alternate hook, but still seeking 2nd opinion. -- P 1 9 9✉20:51, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: New enough, long enough, QPQ done. As for Voorts' neutrality concern, I think the prose reads as neutral. I agree with Voorts that the corporate webpage used as the source for ALT0 is questionable, if only because it gives contradictory information. (It says Total production from the Gowganda camp amounted to 60.2 million ounces of silver and 1.3 million pounds cobalt of which 52.02M million ounces of silver and 1.6 million pounds of cobalt were produced from the Capitol and Miller Lake - O'Brien mine complexes owned by BMR, which doesn't math as 1.6 million pounds is more than 1.3 million pounds but the second pair of statistics are meant to be a subset of the first.) I also agree with Voorts that the hook is uninteresting in that it doesn't provide context for whether this is a lot of cobalt/silver or not compared to similar sites. ALT0 is therefore not approved. I can't evaluate ALT1 since the source is offline; per WP:DYKHOOKCITE, P199, please provide a quotation from the offline source that validates the hook fact. I must say, ALT1 isn't particularly interesting, and the way the sequence is expressed in the article isn't exactly the same as in the hook. In the article, Gowganda burns down and many do not return, then gold is discovered, and then the silver mines keep producing for quite a while. So the hook or article needs to be clearer depending on what's in the unseen source. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:03, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that the Enderlin, North Dakota, tornado earned the first EF5 rating in 12 years by throwing train cars over four times as heavy and nearly twice the distance needed for the rating?
Source: The source appears on the Damage Assessment Toolkit, and can be found by ensuring the Begin and End Dates specified make a range that include June 20, 2025; then, find the purple EF5 polygon west of Fargo, North Dakota, and click on the southwesternmost purple EF5 damage point at 46.59, -97.56. This might seem convoluted, but this is standard practice within the weather community. The relevant text reads: "Tipped loaded car: The tornado derailed 33 train cars including 19 fully-loaded grain hopper cars and 14 empty tanker cars, mainly tipped from the track. Included in the derailed cars were one filled grain car (~286,000 lbs) and four empty tanker cars (~72,000 lbs) that were pulled into a field away from the track. One of the 4 tanker cars was tossed 600-1000 ft (183-305 m) from the track and an estimated 475.7 ft (145 m) from the distance of the previous tanker car it was attached to before being pulled off of the track; wheel sets detached near the point from which the cars were derailed from the track. It was in this train derailment location that EF-5 damage intensity was noted with greater than 210 mph winds listed officially for this tornado. Extensive collaboration with wind damage experts provided forensic analyses for the train damage that occurred with this tornado. These analyses estimate potential wind speeds of approximately 230 mph are needed to completely overturn a fully loaded grain hopper car. Collaboration with the Northern Tornadoes Project at Western University’s Canadian Severe Storms Laboratory estimated a potential wind speed of >119 m/s (>266 mph) to loft the empty tanker car 475.7 ft (145 m) using similar calculations performed in Estimating Wind Speeds in Tornadoes Using Debris Trajectories of Large Compact Objects (Miller et al. 2024). The study, published in the Monthly Weather Review, found that large compact objects lofted greater than 50 m indicate EF-5 intensity winds (greater than 200 mph). The Enderlin train cars were nearly 2× farther than the EF-5 threshold distance and ~4× heavier than the heaviest object modeled in the study."
Comment: Apologies about the convoluted source. The article is brand new and already at GA, and weatherspace editors are on it with a fervor I haven't seen since I started editing here (except for ongoing storms). I feel it's only right for this to get some recognition (it was at ITN/C but won't be posted), and I've plenty of QPQs leftover. Again, credit to EF5 and ChessEric for this one.
Improved to Good Article status by EF5 (talk) and ChessEric (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 12 past nominations.
Damnit, I was going to nominate with the exact same hook later today lol (do they hand out 4As if you aren’t the one nominating the DYK?). Original hook is interesting as-is. EF516:03, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
For the purposes of 4A, I'm fine with you taking credit for this one, as you were the one who basically built this page up to where it is now. Departure– (talk) 16:04, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nono, it’s okay, DYK still counts even if you aren’t the one nominating. Maybe we could use the Alex Resel or Henderson images? EF516:07, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I personally think it'd be only right to use the photo of the moved train cars, but sadly this is one of the only cases of free tornado image, non-free damage image. Departure– (talk) 16:09, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note that while the article is currently at WP:GAR and will be there for at least a month the nomination is still valid as it was created in the last seven days. EF513:38, 14 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The article has been vetted so thoroughly in what are essentially two GARs that I have 0 doubts about its quality. It was nominated within the time limit. I do wonder whether the hook could be simplified to be more accessible to the general audience. "EF5" does not mean anything to most of us, I think. Surtsicna (talk) 21:52, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that soprano Antonie Mielke(pictured) performed in a festival that inaugurated the newly built Carnegie Hall for its first week of performances in May 1891?
Source: *"Damrosch Festival". The New York Times. March 8, 1891. p. 13. THE DAMROSCH FESTIVAL. The new Carnegle Musio Hall, at Fifty-seventh Street and Seventh Avente, will be opened on May 5 with a music festival, which will continue on May 6, 7, 8, and 9. The forces to be assembled will consist of the Symphony Society orchestra, the Oratorio Society chorus, and the following solotsts: Antonia Mielke and Clementine De Vere, sopranos... Wednesday Evening, May 6. Elijah, Oratorio for soli, chorus, and orchestra. Mendelssohn Soloiste: Frau Antonia Mielke...
Sufficiently fresh, sufficiently long, and perfectly sourced. I see no copyright issues. Thanks for writing this, 4meter4. I do not like how the hook seemingly veers off. By the time I am done reading it, I am not sure if the hook is about Mielke, the festival, or Carnegie Hall. Could a punchier hook not be produced from the shieldman tripping incident? Surtsicna (talk) 16:00, 9 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Surtsicna: Thanks for the review. I’m having trouble figuring out a way to express that in a hooky manner. It’s a lot of context trying to describe someone portraying a dead woman being placed atop of four shields and being carried by four men on stage above their heads and then having one trip, causing her to plummet to the ground, being scared to death and deciding to retire after being traumatized. If you can think of a way to fit that in less than 200 characters that’s snappy let me know. I can't seem to figure a way to turn it into a hook.4meter4 (talk) 18:59, 9 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, it would be perfect if we had that much context in the article! We do not need to have it in the hook, though. Leaving things out is actually a good idea when writing a hook; it makes people want to find out more.
ALT1 ... that an on-stage incident traumatized Antonie Mielke so much that she retired from opera?
Comment: nominating this for a CHRISTMAS prep queue (i realise there's been a lot of discussion about DYKs for Jilly Cooper's works and in this discussion I offered to do multi noms with this exception as I think it works really well for Christmas!
Created by Lajmmoore (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 154 past nominations.
Ideally I'd like to, but I'm not sure I will have time. Is there a limit on when I could add a GA to this hook? (if it does get held for Christmas) Lajmmoore (talk) 16:18, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Launchballer - I'll get on with it then, and try to get it nominated by the end of the month with the hopes I can tempt a reviewer in December Lajmmoore (talk) 16:30, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that the removal of a printing press from The Republic Newspaper Office prompted dozens of concerned inquiries from the public? Source: Kamin, Blair (May 14, 2018). "Former newspaper building in Indiana, a modernist icon shaped in Chicago, will house architecture program". Chicago Tribune. "So deeply was the building ingrained in the life of the town that when the printing press was removed in 1998, to be replaced by a larger one that could only be housed in a new facility, the public took notice. 'Alarm bells went off. We fielded dozens of inquiries from people sure that the newspaper had gone out of business.'"
ALT1: ... that the removal of a printing press from The Republic Newspaper Office prompted people to ask if the 125-year-old newspaper was closing entirely? Source: Kamin, Blair (May 14, 2018). "Former newspaper building in Indiana, a modernist icon shaped in Chicago, will house architecture program". Chicago Tribune. "So deeply was the building ingrained in the life of the town that when the printing press was removed in 1998, to be replaced by a larger one that could only be housed in a new facility, the public took notice. 'Alarm bells went off. We fielded dozens of inquiries from people sure that the newspaper had gone out of business.'"
ALT2: ... that The Republic Newspaper Office was completed under budget despite undergoing more than 100 changes during construction? Source: The Republic (Report). National Register of Historic Places, National Park Service. October 16, 2012. p. 12. "Over the course of construction. Brown corresponded frequently with George Hays, the project manager for SOM to discuss the day-to-day details of the project, including the numerous change orders. More than 100 of these were executed during the building’s construction ... In spite of the many modifications, the building was occupied only a short time after originally anticipated, and the final construction cost was $1,104,425, under SOM’s original estimate of $1,172,000."
ALT3: ... that an editor for The Republic newspaper in Indiana said that its office was "the best recruiting tool we've got"? Source: Freeman, Allen (March 1980). "Living in an Architectural Museum" (PDF). Journal of the American Institute of Architects. Vol. 69, no. 3. p. 70. "Courthouse Square is a less intrusive glass box, the daily Republic newspaper office and plant designed by Myron Goldsmith of SOM, Chicago. City Editor Harry McCawley, a believer in the good effects of good architecture, explains, "I am involved in the hiring of new reporters, and it is the best recruiting tool we've got. People compare it with where they are working now and where they are looking elsewhere. It often makes a difference as to whether we get a reporter we want." He adds facetiously that the building is "probably worth $10 a week in salary" when hiring, and seriously that his young crew dresses better than average for newspaper people, " to go with the building.""
ALT4: ... that an editor for The Republic newspaper in Indiana said that, for new employees, the allure of its office's design was like giving them a pay raise? Source: Freeman, Allen (March 1980). "Living in an Architectural Museum" (PDF). Journal of the American Institute of Architects. Vol. 69, no. 3. p. 70. "Courthouse Square is a less intrusive glass box, the daily Republic newspaper office and plant designed by Myron Goldsmith of SOM, Chicago. City Editor Harry McCawley, a believer in the good effects of good architecture, explains, "I am involved in the hiring of new reporters, and it is the best recruiting tool we've got. People compare it with where they are working now and where they are looking elsewhere. It often makes a difference as to whether we get a reporter we want." He adds facetiously that the building is "probably worth $10 a week in salary" when hiring, and seriously that his young crew dresses better than average for newspaper people, " to go with the building.""
ALT1: ... that the 2003 Marvel Comics series Trouble was part of a "made-you-look" marketing strategy of provocative editorial gimmicks aimed at attracting substantial media coverage? Source: CBR, Newsarama
ALT2: ... that the 2003 Marvel Comics series Trouble was an attempt by the company to re-expand into romance comics, a genre which enjoyed significant popularity in the mid-20th century? Source: Web-Spinning Heroics: Critical Essays on the History and Meaning of Spider-Man
ALT3: ... that fan reaction to the 2003 Marvel Comics series Trouble, which suggests that Aunt May is secretly Spider-Man's biological mother, determined whether or not it would become canon? Source: ICV2
ALT4: ... that writer Mark Millar(pictured) said that his 2003 Marvel Comics series Trouble was his first comic that his wife read cover to cover? Source: Newsarama
ALT5: ... that the 2003 Marvel Comics series Trouble frequently places on lists of the worst or most controversial Spider-Man storylines? Source: 1234
@Based5290: Technically, depending on how you look at it, both hooks could meet DYKFICTION, if they are interpreted to refer to in-game mechanics rather than plot details. In-game mechanics are not considered DYKFICTION violations. Having said that, I would personally shorten ALT1 to just: ALT1a ... that Tamagotchi Connection: Corner Shop 2 features a mini-game called sushi-bowling? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:43, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that Bad End Theater uses a cute visual style to portray tragic death without showing gruesome details?
Source: Couture, Joel. "The cascading consequences of Bad End Theater's parallel narratives". Game Developer. Retrieved 2 August 2025. Supporting text: "Cuteness is my specialty! I think having cute characters makes the darker endings more approachable and "safe". I wanted all the emotions of a tragic death without having to show any gruesome details - for me, it's more effective if it remains abstract or stylized."
ALT1: ... that Bad End Theater has 41 bad endings? Source: NomnomNami (2022-02-22), BAD END THEATER art collection. Requires owning Bad End Theater to access. Supporting text: "41 bad endings... it's a strange final number to land on, isn't it?"
Reviewed:
Moved to mainspace by The Sophocrat (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
Final Weapon was determined likely unreliable at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games/Sources#Final Weapon. What do you mean? Only one out of four editors argued it was "not a high-quality source". The site lists its editorial staff and its reviews have been featured elsewhere in the industry. As for meeting WP:GNG, the article cites a thesis, the Final Weapon Review, and a PCGamer review. Those are three independent, reliable sources that significantly cover the article subject, so the subject meets WP:GNG. Sophocrat (talk) 17:47, 15 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's more complex than just one of four editors arguing it's unreliable. The ones arguing it was unreliable offered way more evidence in support of that fact, including User:Captain Galaxy's numerous points and User:Sergecross73 in the previous 2024 discussion about the site. At the very least, its reliability is in heavy doubt due to the writers' lack of credentials. I am not sure why Anait Games should be considered reliable either, it appears to share similar issues. To be clear, reliability is not a negotiable part of WP:GNG and if you pull a source out of nowhere that isn't in WP:VG/S or WP:Perennial sources, etc. you will need some solid proof that it should actually be taken seriously, especially with the advent of AI and misinformation online. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 05:42, 16 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
With regards to the Marta Trivi page, it was essentially just created and I am unsure if it passes WP:NBIO. She appears to be more of a freelance journalist than someone with industry credentials so I'm not sure you can pull out the "this person is a journalist" argument to say that the site is reliable. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 05:49, 16 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There's also a page discussing the game, comparable in size to the PCGamer review, from this thesis (plaintext link) from Hacettepe University (it also dedicates a subchapter to another of the dev's games, but I digress). It was supervised by doctor Elif Varol Ergen, who seems to be a recognized specialist in the field (eg by this art magazine article) (as preferred by WP:THESIS [If possible, use theses that have been [...] supervised by recognized specialists in the field]). The GryOnLine article was written in 2021, this thesis in 2024, and the other thesis I cite in 2025. This demonstrates sustained coverage that has outlived the game's initial release. I do believe this subject is notable and evidently an article can be written about it—it's just a bit niche (and per WP:DYKCITE, The use of multiple sources is generally preferred, though more leeway may be given for more obscure topics). Sophocrat (talk) 00:27, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The Gry Online page bills itself as a "game description" with zero independent commentary, so I don't think it would fall under WP:SECONDARY. Per that page, "A secondary source provides thought and reflection [...]". GNG requires the sources in question to be secondary ones. I am also concerned whether the thesis page would have sufficient commentary independent of pure descriptions of the content. It may be worth removing the unreliable sources and expanding the reception; if the sources are insufficient, it will clearly show in the lack of content that can be gleaned for the section, and vice-versa. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 09:43, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Some of the University of Chicago team who worked on the production of the world's first human-caused self-sustaining nuclear reaction, including Enrico Fermi in the front row and Leó Szilárd in the second
ALT4a: ... that the original University of Chicago, founded in the 1850s, was foreclosed upon and shut down in 1886? Source: The University of Chicago: A History, by John W. Boyer, pages 8-10. ISBN 9780226835303
ALT5: ... that the University of Chicago's Gothic architecture was deliberately designed to evoke Oxford and Cambridge, despite the university being located in America's Midwest? Source: Schulze, Franz; Harrington, Kevin (2003). Chicago's Famous Buildings (5th ed.). University of Chicago Press. pp. 246–50. ISBN 0-226-74066-8. Retrieved August 31, 2009.
Reviewed:
Comment: I don't have the Boyer book with me at the moment, but if necessary I can get it and find the exact text supporting the claims.
Improved to Good Article status by Charter6281 (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
Article was nominated for DYK on the same day it passed GA (Oct 14) and at 44k characters and 6.5k words it is more than long enough. Sourcing is fine, although if I were the GA reviewer, I would have asked for more independent secondary sources rather than relying so heavily on University of Chicago-affiliated sources (understandable as this is pretty typical of university histories; it's just that it's not that hard to find secondary sources for a lot of the claims in the article). Article is neutral in tone. Earwig suggests that copyvio is unlikely; the match rate nevertheless seems high (31% with Britannica for example) but when you look closely it turns out to be due to things like the long institute names, which should remain fixed. As for manual spotchecks, a quick comparison with pages from the Boyer book, which the article cites heavily, makes it apparent that the Boyer book is much more flowery in tone and that close paraphrasing seems unlikely. Only one link in the proposed hooks is bold-linked and this article looks presentable. The QPQ is not required, as the nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
This leaves the hooks. ALT0, ALT1, and ALT2 fail the "short enough" test – ALT0 and ALT1 both contain very interesting facts, but they are crammed with so much detail and bluelinks, such that there is no compelling reason for the reader to click on the link to read the University of Chicago article. (In other words, you don't want to ask a question that contains the exact answer. ALT1, for example, could perhaps be shortened to "... that only Room 405 of the University of Chicago'sGeorge Herbert Jones Laboratory is a National Historic Landmark?" because at least then the reader would want to know "why only Room 405?" but it's not great in that it's more about George Herbert Jones Laboratory than the University of Chicago itself. And in any case, if you wanted to use that hook, you really should cite additional sources like this one in the article itself. To be honest, ALT3 is the hook that caught my eye from the very start, but WP:ERRORS is very unforgiving of superlative claims like "first" and "largest". Even if it technically is true that University of Chicago Press is the largest in North America, this claim is only sourced within the article to the University of Chicago Press itself (a primary source), which also fails to explain exactly why it's the largest (by what metric). This leaves ALT4. And while I thought ALT4 was going to be an easy pass, a potential problem is that the article itself doesn't use the words "bankrupt" or "bankruptcy" anwhere, and one could argue that foreclosure is not the same as bankruptcy. @Charter6281: If you are in a hurry to get this DYK approved, I would recommend doing a bit of work to resolve this and bulletproof ALT4. Otherwise, good job with the article; it's well written and very informative. Cielquiparle (talk) 04:25, 15 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Charter6281: Better. Thanks for working on your hooks. There are still issues that need to be resolved, though. See below. (And also, from this point on, please don't swap out any ALT hooks. You can start new ones inline here in the Comments, formatted the same way (scroll through WP:DYKNA to get a feel for formatting options for revised ALT hooks) and strike any content you decide not to use like this. I've also re-numbered your ALT hooks so it's clear to any subsequent reviewers that we aren't talking about the same hooks as before. Cielquiparle (talk) 04:32, 22 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT0a seems like an interesting hook. Can you find an additional source for it that isn't University of Chicago Press? For a "world's first" claim like that, we're looking for reliable secondary sources that verify that the claim is true. That source or sources need to be added to the article itself.
ALT2a is better than it was before, but there is literally only one sentence about the topic in the actual article that doesn't give us any "reward" for clicking on the hook and no real argument about why this is a significant or interesting fact (plus it's only sourced to the University of Chicago magazine). Either expand the content in the article by at least one sentence, citing at least one reliable secondary source, or we can just table this hook.
ALT4a is ok.
ALT5 is interesting but the article refers only to Oxford, not Cambridge, and the hook itself is still way too verbose.
In conclusion, I would recommend you fix at least ALT0a and possibly ALT5 (meaning fix the corresponding sourcing in the article itself in the case of ALT0a, and fix the hook language and possibly the content within the article itself if you can find a source to back up the "Cambridge" part), and then we will have at least 3 approved hooks and leave it up to the hook promoter which one to choose. Cielquiparle (talk) 04:32, 22 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
One possible solution to ALT0/ALT0a is to simply drop the "first" claim and just mention that the reaction took place under a stadium's stands. To me at least, that was the actually interesting part, not that it was a "first". Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:07, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
One issue is that the article currently does not mention "stands" but only the specific stadium itself (in this case, Stagg Field) is mentioned, without any mention of the experiment being done under the stands. Unless the article is revised, another possibility could be:
ALT2: ... that Herbert Jacobs and his children personally built the foundations of their second house? Source: National Park Service 2003, p. 18; Jacobs, Herbert (October 4, 1976). "[For Working] And Living". The Capital Times. pp. 21, 22.
ALT3: ... that when Herbert and Katherine Jacobs commissioned Frank Lloyd Wright for their second house, he told them, "you are getting another 'first'"? Source: National Park Service 2003, p. 15.
Another interesting FLW house, detailed GA, on excellent sources, offline and subscription sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. Sadly no pic. Of the suggested hooks, I'd prefer ALT3, but I wonder why you don't say something similar simpler: that the two liked Jakobs I so much that they commissioned Jakobs II also from FLW, - could be sweetly short and quirky, and I don't know another case. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:49, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have a few significant concerns. The movements portion of this article is almost entirely reliant on citations to the piece itself despite containing substantial elaboration on the interplay of instruments and what looks to be original-research interpretation. I recommend looking at Gerda Arendt's DYKs on similar pieces for a demonstration of what is and isn't acceptable primary-source citations of musical compositions. Ping me when that issue is addressed. ~ Pbritti (talk) 17:59, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Pbritti: Hey there, thanks for taking a look at my nomination. I don't understand what you mean by "citations to the piece itself", you mean the score itself?. The analysis of each movement uses the allmusic reference as a basis, with the comments regarding structure, dynamics and instrumentation added after consulting the score, which is freely accesible in the WiseMusic Classical reference. I just added references to the latter to make it more clear where that info comes from. I don't think that counts as original research, as a I strictly adhered to what is written in the score with no outside interpretation or speculation on my part. NeoGaze (talk) 18:51, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You make several statements in each movement that are interpretive: "folkish, march-like theme", "an austere theme exposed", and "rather free in form" are just three examples among others. These are fairly clear cases of original research. I recommend you review your writing and take out anything that isn't strictly the statements that can be explicitly verified with reliable sources or the piece itself. Any instances where you yourself have drawn a conclusion from the piece is not appropriate for the article. ~ Pbritti (talk) 19:03, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Pbritti: I removed subjective terms that weren't sourced, I will admit I probably added them without noticing. "folkish, march-like theme" actually comes from the description "folk-like, march melody" found in the second paragraph of the allmusic reference. NeoGaze (talk) 19:34, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I spot-checked the sentence "Alongside other composers like Krzysztof Penderecki and Witold Lutosławski, Górecki was at the forefront of the New Polish School, exemplified by sonorism." Jacobson 126–127 does not say Górecki was at the forefront of any movement, does not mention the New Polish School, and only mentions Lutosławski to say his plans for similar post-grad studies were dashed when the war began. The Polish biography cited at the end of sentence similarly had very little to do with the sentence and verifies very little. I'm beginning to have serious WP:V issues. Thank you for correcting the OR problems, but this may be more significant. Some of this feels like AI may have been used—is that the case? ~ Pbritti (talk) 15:32, 5 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Pbritti: The Jacobson page number was wrong, I just corrected it and also reworked the final phrase. Also no, the article has not been AI-generated nor the technology has been employed at any point, and honestly I don't see how you came to that idea. NeoGaze (talk) 20:26, 5 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Well, AI seems a likely culprit for repeated hallucinations. For example, the article says "Throughout the 1960s, he continued to form acquaintanceships with other experimental and serialist composers such as Pierre Boulez, Iannis Xenakis and Luigi Nono, among others." It cites a source that says something quite different: "Górecki has worked with great determination to develop his own compositional voice by assimilating the techniques of his predecessors (Bartók, Szymanowski) and those active around him (Boulez, Xenakis, Nono), as well as by paring away all elements extraneous to his personal expression." I am inclined to fail this nomination. ~ Pbritti (talk) 14:09, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Pbritti: Just corrected that part. If there is any other issue worth mentioning I will happily fix it. I hoped that any glaring error on my side would be cached upon in the AFC process, but it seems that wasn't the case as you can see. I don't think the nomination should be failed, as the hooks themselves do not have these issues. NeoGaze (talk) 16:05, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I appreciate your willingness to address the issues with this article. However, DYK articles have to meet a minimum standard of WP:V beyond only the hook. Portions like "His music became harmonic and rhythmically simpler" does not correspond with any portion of the cited book. Commentary not present in citations also still exists in the description of the music, such as "culminates in an expressive fortissimo climax". I'll give you a couple days to give the article a once-over to ensure verifiability. Ping me when you feel ready to have the article re-reviewed. I want this article to run, as you clearly put in effort here and English Wikipedia is happily enjoying a renaissance of high-quality writing on Polish culture. Best, ~ Pbritti (talk) 17:46, 9 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Pbritti: I'm currently revising the entire article, and sadly I have much less free time, so I will need more than a couple of days. Do I notify you again when I'm finished? NeoGaze (talk) 18:04, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@NeoGaze: How about I swing back on Sunday and check? That way you have a bit of the weekend. Don't feel rushed and ask for a couple more days if you need them. Best, ~ Pbritti (talk) 02:57, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Variations for Flute and Piano in E major (Chopin)
Overall: Hello, with a view to approving ALT1, the source says "one may add that Chopin probably composed only the 3rd variation"; do you have a source that would enable the addition of how many variations there are, and that the third is (the only one) in a minor key? Thank you, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 20:28, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1: ... that despite being a charity race, the City of Oaks Marathon donated zero dollars to charity in 2014 due to potential fraud by their board president? (Source)
Article is new enough, long enough, and the hook fact is interesting and verifiable to an inline citation. That said, the article does use a large number of primary sources, which is fine I guess for statistics in the tables... But... I notice that the sourcing in question is local in scope and promotional in tone; being drawn almost entirely from WRAL, WTVD, and WNCN. The only source outside of that is a small promotional blurb in Runner's World which hardly counts as WP:SIGCOV. I am wondering whether the sourcing is sufficient to demonstrate a pass of WP:EVENTCRIT. Issues of WP:GEOSCOPE, WP:LASTING, WP:DEPTH, WP:DIVERSE, WP:ROUTINE, WP:NOTNEWS, etc. are pertinent. Additionally, City of Oaks Marathon is an organization as well as an event and is therefor subject to WP:ORG and its rigor. I'm not certain this would survive an WP:AFD. @Johnson524: It would be helpful if you could locate and add a source on this event from outside Raleigh that isn't promotional or perfunctory. That would go a long way in demonstrating that this is a notable topic. Additionally the over-reliance on local TV media may not be the best as that type of media tends to be more superficial than print media, and the coverage tends to be WP:PRIMARY. Local print media might be more in-depth, and is more often able to cross that line into WP:SECONDARY coverage. Until the source depth and diversity is improved I don't think we can run this.4meter4 (talk) 15:37, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Article was moved within the window and is long enough, and seems to be fully cited. The hook itself is short enough and passes WP:DYKINT. No copyvio concerns except the formality below. Points that need looking at:
Could you provide the quotation from note 13 to support the hook -- the newspaper citation is WP:PRIMARY and only strictly proves that one letter existed.
There is quite heavy use of primary sources throughout: can any of these be replaced or buttressed with modern secondary sources?
I've requested access to a copy of the book again, it might take a few days to get it.
The primary newspaper sources are being used to back up the dates. I had the issue that some of the secondary sources had incorrect dates for when he held these positions, so the primary ones were actually more reliable in this case.
Nothing really, though it's the only online source I could find talking about his role as a mason.
@UndercoverClassicist: Quote from page 35: Another letter printed in the Press on November 30, 1866, again from the Debtor's Quarters, also complained about the doctor. The writer said he wanted "a curb of petty tyranny whih appears to be exercised by those who are dressed in a limited brief authority." His complaint was that when he was unwell on November 28 he sent out for a "bottle of porter" which was a privilege allowed by law to debtors. However, to his "astonishment the warder formed me that Dr Donald had ordered that I was not to be allowed to receive my beer. ... I could, if space permitted, give you many instances of the petty tyranny exercised by Dr Donald towards the unfortunate debtors confined here and are treated far worse than the convicted felons and towards whom a system of petty annoyances is practised by the gaol authorities. It is useless for me to make my complaint to His Honour the judge as it only passed unheeded."David Palmer//cloventt(talk)00:21, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Both articles are long enough and pass GA standards as indicated in the nom (Marina Days was promoted on 16 Oct and Our Lady of the Ozarks College moved on the same day. Two QPQs done, per requirements when this was nominated. Both are generally in good shape and presentable for the main page. No evidence of copyvio or other issues, having run Earwig on both, and all images are appropriately licensed.
The hook is cited but I can't access the first link: could you provide the supporting text? I'm not sure the second quite has enough to support this as an annual figure (rather than the expectation for 2025), and it doesn't specify the location or that they're all Vietnamese Catholics. I think it just about passes the bar for WP:DYKINT, but you may wish to come up with some ALTs -- readers without a clear expectation of how many Vietnamese Catholics they would find in Missouri may not be particularly shocked. We could also do with explicitly saying that the Marian Days take place at Our Lady of the Ozarks College -- this isn't directly said in either article.
... that The Patient's Playbook warns against hastily starting treatment, citing a case where a man received unnecessary heart stents, only to later learn his real issue was in his lungs?
The article notes: "A rush to treatment can also be a problem. Short of an emergency, it is important for patients, and doctors, to think things through. Mr. Michelson recounts the story of a man whose shortness of breath led him to a new doctor, a reflexively scheduled angiogram and the insertion of stents in his heart arteries well before a careful diagnosis had been made. The man’s problem, it turned out, wasn’t the heart but the lungs. The stent procedure was unnecessary."
Hi Drmies, thank you for taking a look and great to see you! Here is a tweaked hook.
ALT0: ... that The Patient's Playbook warns against hastily starting medical treatment, citing a case where a man received unnecessary heart stents, only to later learn the real issue was in his lungs?
The article is new enough and long enough, and neutral in style. QPQ has been done and there is no image. The hook is good, and the source supporting it AGF. There should be an inline citation connected with the fact in the article, though, so that it is clear where the source for this claims comes from not only in the nomination but also in the article. I do have some issues with the presentability of the article. Firstly, some stylistic issues. In the lead, Tjoen is presented as "politician, leftist, and teacher." I think "left-wing politician and teacher" would be considerably better; "leftist" sounds too colloquial and vague. Further questions: Do we know what kind of company "NV Pyramid" was? A word on that could be clarifying. Same with "Surabaya National Development Force"; who were/are they? Some context would be useful. And what's the "Mutual Assistance House of Representatives"? And what happened in 1955, did he lose his seat or not? I also find this sentence confusing: "He did so because he found that those representing minority groups were not supported by the Chinese Muslim and Indo communities, and were instead backed by Masjumi, NU, and Parkindo". I think you need in at least a few words explain why this was problematic for Tjoen. And then again: "He also urged the government to review the bonus system" - what bonus system? Who got what bonus from whom? I'm at a loss. In the very next sentence, " In addition, he opposed Assaat’s proposal, calling on the government to adopt [...]" I again wonder what the proposal was? One last question - he was arrested twice in the 1940s and 1950s, yet the arrest in the 1960s get its own heading. Why? I think at least some of these questions need to be resolved before we can put this on the main page. I'm sorry to say I left the article not really feeling sure I had a grip on the biography of Tjoen. Yakikaki (talk) 20:24, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Yakikaki: Answering your questions: 1) I looked at the sources and did not find any description about what the NV Pyramid was. I also searched on Google and alas, I did not find any information about the company's background. 2) Same with NV Pyramid, I tried to search what Surabaya National Development Force was in Indonesian and did not find any satisfying results. The source only mentioned that Surabaya National Development Force was an organization 3). I had already linked the Mutual Assistance House of Representatives to the sub-heading of Guided Democracy on House of Representatives (Indonesia) since it briefly explained it. 4). I looked at the source again and found that the government appointed the representative for the minority groups which caused trouble for Tjoen. 5) I replaced the bonus system with a premium one. Sorry for my mistake. 6). Assaat's proposal was asking the government to adopt economic policies favoring indigenous entrepreneurs 7). Realizing there were some ambiguities, I decided to change the subheading from 'Arrest' to 'Post 30 September Movement'. Faldi00 (talk) 21:30, 31 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Faldi00 for taking the time to look at this and get back to me in detail, much appreciated. I think the article reads smoother now as well. Marking it as good to go. Well done. Yakikaki (talk) 20:08, 1 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The very first spot check failed: the cited NYT article does not verify the "second thoughts"/"wisdom" wording in the article. I also do not see the "presumably referring to the spread of information on the Internet" bit in the Propublica article. There seems to be quite a bit of room for improvement here, RedDeadGuy. Surtsicna (talk) 22:17, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that the winning song of the Eurovision Song Contest 1961 was included in a 2020s promotional campaign by the French government to highlight and combat homophobia, biphobia and transphobia?
Improved to Good Article status by Sims2aholic8 (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 26 past nominations.
... that cables of large bridges can reach over 1 meter (3.3 ft) in diameter and weigh over 20,000 tonnes?
Source: * Gimsing, Niels J. (1997). Cable Supported Bridges: Concept and Design (Second ed.). Wiley. p. 56. ISBN9781119951872. Retrieved 1 September 2025. diameter over 1 meter. Jones, Vardiman; Howells, John (2000). "Suspension Bridges". In Ryall, Michael (ed.). The Manual of Bridge Engineering. Thomas Telford. p. 603. ISBN0727727745. Retrieved 1 September 2025. 94 tonnes per strand.. Sangree, Rachel; Shafer, Ben; et al. (2003). "The Structural Art of the Akashi Kaikyo Bridge"(PDF). Perceptions on the Evolution of Structures. Retrieved 2 October 2025. 290 strands in a cable
ALT1 ... that bridges are often used as metaphors in literature, representing transition or growth?
Drive-by comment: I'd suggest adding {{Convert}} to ALT0, and abandoning ALT1 as it is not particularly interesting (and the bar for interestingness should be high for a topic like this — there's a cornucopia of possible bridge facts and we only get to DYK this once). Sdkbtalk16:21, 3 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the suggestion: I added convert template for the diameter (not sure if needed for tonnes). Agree that ALT1 is not great. Noleander (talk) 17:26, 3 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that Charlie Mitchell is the first Black chef in New York City to receive a Michelin star? and only the second Black executive chef in the country to receive a star?
@Launchballer: It is Gerald Sombright and he doesn't have an article, I already have a good bit of the resources needed for him and can get it put together. Once I get it done do I nominate his separately or add it on to this one? New to all of this and want to do it correctly.
I put together what I could for Gerald Sombright, but there isn't nearly enough for me to be willing to submit it with Mitchell's. Mitchell has received significantly more press coverage because of receiving the Young Chef Award and the James Beard Award, and doing so at such a young age. If changing the hook would be more appropriate I would be happy to reword it. (Also I corrected the capitalization in the hook.) Snuggle 🖤 (talk) 21:26, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I would like to leave this submission as just Chef Mitchell, and the hook as is, and then leave Chef Sombright's to potentially expand and submit in the future. Snuggle 🖤 (talk) 22:58, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This isn't a review (yet), but I would suggest splitting the hook into two separate hooks, or perhaps only focusing on the Michelin star hook. "Only the second Black executive chef in the country to receive a star?" is a superlative and exceptional claim, and per WP:DYKHOOKCITE, would require very strong sourcing to prove. "First Black chef to receive a Michelin star", while a "first" hook, might be easier to verify. However, I have concerns about the hook wording itself since "first Black chef" is vague: did he himself get the Michelin star, or was it the restaurant he worked for that received it? Are we sure that prior Michelin-starred restaurants in New York did not have Black chefs working for them? That's the issue with "first" hooks: they need to be scrutinized to make sure they're accurate. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:42, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that the hook can be split, as far as the first claim goes - the hook as it is right now is using the same wording as the Michelin Guide,[1][2] the New Yorker,[3] CBS news,[4] MSNBC,[5]Today,[6] and Grub Street/New York magazine.[7] Yes, it's technically the restaurant that receives the star and the star remains with the restaurant and doesn't move with the chef but within the profession it is understood that the executive chef/head chef/chef de cuisine is the one that "earns" the star. He is called the first Black chef in the country to receive a star in multiple sources as well simply because Chef Mitchell and Chef Gerald Sombright earned their stars in the same year, one being awarded at the Florida awards which took place in June 2022 and the other being awarded at the New York awards that took place in October 2022. On a side note, the claim that he is the 2nd executive chef to receive the honor is more or less a technicality thing (I am personally not a fan), since Mariya Russell was the first Black chef in the country to receive a star but she didn't hold the executive chef title at the time and she left fine dining after receiving the star.
@Narutolovehinata5: I would be happy to change the hook to something that would be more in line with DYK hooks but I don't know how it should be worded without being disingenuous to the sources which are mainstream (majority non-food focused) publications, Grub Street being the only one that is food-centric. If the fact that he is the first Black chef in NYC to receive a star isn't interesting enough then I'm not really sure how to proceed. I just struggle to say he didn't receive and earn it considering he was co-owner and executive chef, meaning 99% of the criteria that Michelin look at for stars was under his purview. It wasn't a Bib gourmand, he retained the star for a second year, and is now at a two-starred restaurant. The full 2025 guide will be released in 5 days, depending on how Saga rates this year, there may be a better hook revealed then.
"Listen to the story", (from the Introductory to Granny's Wonderful Chair, illustrated by Marie Seymour Lucas, 1890
... that Francis Hodgson Burnett was accused of plagiarism after publishing a story based on Frances Browne’s Granny's Wonderful Chair(illustrated)? Source: Easley, Alexis (2019). "The Nineteenth Century: Intellectual Property Rights and "Literary Larceny"". The Cambridge Handbook of Literary Authorship. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. doi:10.1017/9781316717516.010.
Comment: I will complete another DYK shortly and add it here. I think this illustration works well at small scale but there are lots of illustrations in the article to choose from. (Also note the bot doesn't seem to count multinoms, this is the 71st article I've nominated for DYK!) DrThneed (talk) 03:13, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Moved to mainspace by DrThneed (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 23 past nominations.
... that Hostage, a book written by Eli Sharabi(pictured) after surviving 491 days in Hamas captivity, became the fastest-selling title in Hebrew publishing history?
Overall: A newly created article that is long enough and new. It is sourced but there are dead links at the moment, so I cannot verify some information. It is neutral and there are no copyvios, but "His wife Lian and daughters Noya (16) and Yahel (13) were murdered in the attack" is close to the text used in the source. QPQ not required. The hook is sourced and interesting. Picture included and acceptable, but this selection depends on the DYK volunteers. Tbhotch™ (CC BY-SA 4.0) 04:05, 7 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I accidentally moved this from my Sandbox2 to Wiki namespace on 19 Oct, then one minute later realized my goof and then moved it to article space. See article history.
Moved to mainspace by MisawaSakura (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
Article new enough and long enough. cited and sourced with neutral wording that is free of paraphrasing or copyvio issues. Article should have a mineral-box (as on Babingtonite), and the note in the opening about the chemical composition being formerly Pb4As2S7 should be addressed in the main body prose.--Kevmin§14:51, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed, and it also runs into trouble as being a "first" hook cited to a primary source. ALT1 looks OK to me. Did you mean to cite a different source for the first hook? I don't see "chloro" in Shimizu et al, 1998. -- Reconrabbit16:37, 20 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
the additions look great, with Alt1 confirmed to the sources and neutrally presented. No CLOP or copyvio issues identified in the prose. Looks good to go.--Kevmin§17:17, 20 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
^Biagioni C, Bindi L, Momma K, Miyawaki R, Matsushita Y, Moëlo Y (2021). "Determination of the Crystal Structure and Redefinition of Tsugaruite, Pb28As15S50Cl, the First Lead-Arsenic Chloro-Sulfosalt". The Canadian Mineralogist. 59 (1): 125–137. Bibcode:2021CaMin..59..125B. doi:10.3749/canmin.2000005.
Improved to Good Article status by Riley1012 (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 339 past nominations.
Hey @Launchballer: ALT1 is inaccurate, it should say something like first Japanese female gymnast to win an individual Olympic medal (as in, not in the team event, and the medal she won was bronze, not gold). That is a bit wordy, so maybe there are better ideas for an ALT hook... -Riley1012 (talk) 17:20, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: I'm new here and maybe I'm misunderstanding how this works. Do the ALT proposals supersede the original? "The first female gymnast to win a world title in 63 years" is very incorrect, so much so that I'm not even sure how to fix it. The closest to correct I could get this would be something like "In 2017, Murakami was the first female representing Japan to win an artistic gymnastics world championship in 63 years." or something to that extent. I would also agree with the currently not scratched out ALT, which is more concise, and would prefer that. GauchoDude (talk) 12:37, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I couldn't decide which ALT to go with and ended up (wrongly) reciting them from memory. I added an ALT0a, which says exactly what the article says. Essentially, all ALTs are 'live' unless they've been rejected by a reviewer; essentially, ALT0a and ALT1a need reviewing.--Launchballer12:49, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Other problems: - I think that the word "charged" tends to have a more official context, and so could be interpreted as a subjective statement. I've proposed ALT1 above, which is a bit more neutral and descriptive.
ALT2: ... that for the video where a fictional Russian deputy allegedly detonates a bus stop with a grenade launcher, the authors of the YouTube channel face 15 years in prison?
... that Jeff Baena was encouraged to pitch his nun comedy movie The Little Hours after talking about medieval literature (depicted) while high and watching DOGTV?
ALT1: ... that members of the six-person crew for The Little Hours had to light some scenes with candles, which the cinematographer wicked herself?
ALT2: ... that preemptive religious criticism about nun movie The Little Hours ended up being used in an R-rated trailer to promote the movie?
ALT4: ... that writer-director Jeff Baena was high when he came up with The Little Hours, and producer-actor Aubrey Plaza was high when she promoted it (both pictured)?
ALT5: ... that The Little Hours was based on at least three stories from The Decameron, primarily the third day (depicted)?
Comment: Sources in article, other hook suggestions welcome!
Improved to Good Article status by Kingsif (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 144 past nominations.
Source: "Having decided that the D.C. courts were Article III courts, the Supreme Court had to reconcile the fact that such courts performed nonjudicial functions with the rule that constitutional courts can exercise only the judicial power of the United States. The Court did so by holding that, in establishing courts for the District, Congress performs dual functions pursuant to two distinct powers: its power to constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court [i.e., Article III court], and its plenary and exclusive power to legislate for the District of Columbia. [i.e., Article I tribunal]" https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artIII-S1-9-4/ALDE_00013607/
Reviewed:
Created by Lethargilistic (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
Adequate sourcing: - As of writing, the article has two citation needed tags, two verification needed tags, one better source needed tag, and three further explanation needed tags.
Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: - Earwig returns 84.8% similarity to the SCOTUS decision hosted at Justia. Much of the shared prose is attributable to quotes, but that speaks to the fact that 43 quotes in a 3.7K article is excessive. Furthermore, there are many phrases copied from the decision without attribution, such as lifting the phrase "By the act of Congress already referred to, his salary was fixed at [...]" without attribution to Justice Sutherland.
Other problems: - "said" seems like the wrong verb for a court, especially the highest one for a country. "held" would be more appropriate.
QPQ: Done.
Overall: Unclear why Lethargilistic nominated this, given that at the time of submission, he had tagged sentences that he had written with "citation needed". Per my above comments, the sourcing remains inadequate and the prose is overly reliant on extended quotes with occasional instances of actual plagiarism. The necessary changes seem like an insurmountable amount of work while the article is sufficiently "new", but the cited analysis from law review articles is impressive, so I could definitely see this hook running in DYK after becoming a Good Article. ViridianPenguin🐧 (💬) 18:11, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@ViridianPenguin:Sourcing: I use tags to keep track of my writing. If the article must be free of all citation needed tags, I could understand that, and I could easily fix that. But the idea that it cannot contain any tags whatsoever does not sound right. That just incentivizes people to not disclose/record how the article could be better.
Copying: The article has a high Earwig score because I copied public domain text. None of it is copyvio, and close paraphrasing is not at issue because it is not copyvio. That said, please actually read the plagiarism policy: [E]ven though there is no copyright issue, public-domain content is plagiarized if used without acknowledging the source.. Further, Whether it is copyright-expired or public domain for other reasons, material from public-domain sources is welcome on Wikipedia, but such material must be properly attributed. That is why all of the public domain sources other than the cases are marked with {{usgovpd}} if I copied from them. Any case text I copied is covered by the {{USGovernment-courts}} at the bottom and the citation to the specific case. All of it is attributed, so none of it is plagiarism. The fact that you, personally, would have written it a different way does not change the fact that what I have written follows the policy and the guidelines.
Other problems: Not a problem preventing DYK, and IMO insufficient formality is not a problem. Those aren't holding summaries. They're just quotes, so "said" is fine.
Overall: This "unclear" comment was unnecessarily snide, mate. I put a lot of work into this article, and I have never previously submitted a DYK. lethargilistic (talk) 20:08, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I misread which section VP's "other problems" comment was in and thought they were talking about the article's text. No objection to changing "said" to "held" in the DYK hook because that is, in fact, a holding summary. lethargilistic (talk) 20:31, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I also use "citation needed" tags when writing articles to know where I have to go back and add more footnotes. My point is that if you know portions of the body are insufficiently supported, then the article is not ready to be presented on the main page right now. For the same reasons as your explanation, I am not accusing you of copyright infringement. However, frequent and extended quotations from SCOTUS cases violate the MOS:QUOTE guideline, which Wikipedia:Did you know/Guidelines#External policy compliance seems to prohibit. I truly did not intend to denigrate your article writing, hence why I foresaw this level of research paving the path to a Good Article. I certainly did not want to scare you off from the DYK process, and I hope that you can forgive any offense caused as this is conversely my first DYK hook review. ViridianPenguin🐧 (💬) 22:30, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have copied that public domain text, not quoted it. It represents my WP:OWNWORDS, and it is attributed to comply with WP:PLAG. WP:QUOTE has nothing to do with that. There are places in the article where I have quoted. Those comply with the quote policy. If your interpretation was right, not only would WP:PLAG and the huge suite of templates like {{usgovpd}} be completely redundant, then the article would be interspersed with block quote formatting that would actively interfere with conveying the article's information. The objection, in that case, would be that the article was ugly. Ultimately, the objection to using public domain sources like this is an aesthetic difference between how you like to write and how I like to write, not something that interferes with Wikipedia's mission. How I like to write does not violate policy. lethargilistic (talk) 00:29, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have resolved the "citation needed" and "verification needed" tags. I don't think the others should stand in the way of DYK because they just mark where the article should be longer, not sourcing issues. The "better source needed" marks the use of a primary source that is fine, but I think it could be improved with a secondary source, if possible. lethargilistic (talk) 10:55, 31 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Chiming in here. I don't have an opinion on the article, but the hook may need to be rewritten, or a new hook angle may be needed here. The issue is that, as currently written, it may not meet WP:DYKINT as readers may not know the difference between an Article III court and an Article I tribunal, or if they do, why that is significant. General readers may be confused by the hook and not understand what it means: generally speaking, hooks should be understandable and interesting even to readers without specialist knowledge (in this case, knowledge of the US court system). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:37, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5: Fair point. And difficult to address because FedCourts cases are interesting because they can be impenetrable. My first stab at that would be "...that courts in Washington, D.C. are the only courts in the United States that may be organized under two articles of the Constitution at the same time?" That changes the hook from being trivia about federal tribunals to being trivia about the Constitution, which people feel more familiar with even if they don't know anything about it. But I sense that can be improved, and I'll think about it some more. lethargilistic (talk) 13:28, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps ...Washington, D.C.'s courts are the only courts in the United States that could use both congressional and judicial powers, but Congress doubled the number of courts in D.C. to avoid this.lethargilistic (talk) 23:58, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
New and apparently long enough, well written overall (not sure about the redundant list of battles or why call the main section a "Brief"). No apparent plagiarism, QPQs both done. Hook is not interesting, sorry to say -- it seems like it is only worded to squeeze in the article, containing nothing that would signal why this guy was individualized among generic commanders who led troops into battle. This, I'm afraid, also raises a larger issue as to whether the bio is worth a standalone article -- apparently, nothing is known about Smin Maw-Khwin beyond his mention as leader of troops in various battles and wars, all of which are covered by wikipedia (which is thanks in enormous part to the very same user, Hybernator, and his tireless contributions). There is nothing that the user will learn about Smin Maw-Khwin from his bio that is outside the exact intersection of those articles: "he appeared in history fighting in this war, he is mentioned again in that other war, and finally he vanished after being captured in a third war". Perhaps this is a case of overextended coverage? I'm not going to press that point, but I will ask the creator to consider proposing another hook, if such is possible. Dahn (talk) 08:46, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Better (with the same caveats as above). However, please note that the duration of the war is not explicitly mentioned in the article. Dahn (talk) 07:02, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Source:*Lavelle, Ryan (2010). Alfred's Wars Sources and Interpretations of Anglo-Saxon Warfare in the Viking Age. Woodbridge, Suffolk: Boydel Press. pp. 306–307. ISBN978-1-84383-569-1.
Reviewed:
Improved to Good Article status by Thelifeofan413 (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
Comment: No redlinks in hooks. Either remove it, or create the article and run this as a double hook if it is long enough. Roast (talk) 19:07, 22 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I remove the red link in the hook by linking what the article links it do, but they’re spelled differently… for some reason? 1brianm7 (talk) 17:05, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not a review, but since I tried to fix the typo myself before being edit conflicted, I'd like to note that it'd help if the Lavelle source supported the hook since reinterpreting medieval histories tend to cross the WP:SYNTH line (similar to WP:GRLIT). ミラP@Miraclepine17:12, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Sorry for being a day late, hope you don't mind
Improved to Good Article status by Sammi Brie (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 800 past nominations.
... that asylum seekers have been protesting for almost 400 consecutive days in the UNHCR humanitarian center in Agadez, Niger?
Source: "By late-2025, the protests continue for almost 400 consecutive days, making them one of the longest-running refugee-led demonstrations in North Africa."
ALT1: ... that refugees have been protesting for 400 consecutive days in the UNHCR humanitarian center in Agadez, Niger? Source: "By late-2025, the protests continue for almost 400 consecutive days, making them one of the longest-running refugee-led demonstrations in North Africa."
Reviewed:
Comment: If posted before 27 October, use "almost 400", if posted on 27 October, use "400", if posted after 27 October use "over 400".
Created by Afonso Dimas Martins (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
Overall: Well written article on an important topic. My comments are all on the hook. First, it says "in Agadez" rather than "near Agadez" as the article says. Second, and more importantly, we don't have a source for the 400 consecutive days. I see one in article article 303 days (presumably written c.97 days ago). To be able to use the 400 number, we need a source confirming the protests are still going and have remained daily. Onceinawhile (talk) 14:16, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The article was moved to mainspace on the 23rd and nominated on the same day. It also meets the length requirements. No QPQ is needed as the nominator has less than five nominations. I did not find any close paraphrasing. The hook is mentioned, cited inline, and verified in the source. However, I have reservations if it meets WP:DYKINT. If a reader is unfamiliar with Holden, they may not understand the hook's significance and thus find it uninteresting. I would suggest proposing alternative hooks. If you are having trouble, I can invite Icepinner, another Singaporean editor and a DYK regular, to assist you. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:34, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the ping, Narutolovehinata5. Fyi, I have read your message on Discord, but have not yet had the chance to properly read through the entire article. I'm a little bit busy with IRL stuff, but am willing to suggest any alternative hooks if the nominator is having trouble. I note that I discussed ALT0 with a couple of other users off-Wiki, and one of them thinks it doesn't meet WP:DYKINT since it's just a party giving another party an object. I do think the hook could be interesting since it's structured in a way such that readers would think Lim gave Holden an actual lion head, but it is rather a borderline case. Icepinner15:03, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The new wording is an improvement, although it still seems to be a borderline case at best. I can see others finding it interesting though, so I'm willing to ask for a second opinion regarding ALT1. Otherwise, we could ask for more options or advice, perhaps from another editor like ZKang123. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 21:36, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's def an improvement, but I think it's chunkier now and I felt it should be kept in the active writing than passive, given the hook is supposed to be on the subject. So I might rewrite smth like:
Thank you. I'm still not 100% sure if that specific hook fact is interesting to others, so I am inviting a second opinion regarding its interest. Given the discussion above, only ALT2b is for consideration. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:09, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You're free to pursue that hook, as I'm not formally reviewing this. I personally just avoid negative hooks, "unduly" or not. Best.—Bagumba (talk) 20:52, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I understand the reasons for nominating this and such, but I think having a DYK on such a recent criminal allegation/investigation is a bit undesirable when considering BLP. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk)20:55, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: Thanks for bringing this up. Upon checking a few related sources ([11] and [12]), they both state that they were paid exclusively with foodstuffs and cigarettes. This is an error on my end and I have amended the text as such. Thanks again for noticing this. – actuall7 (talk | contrib) 13:59, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Full review needed. (For what it's worth, my proposed hook would have been ALT1: ... that Asiah Aman(pictured) was paid with food and cigarettes for her first performances?).--Launchballer16:23, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Source: "Mr Chen, who remains at large, is accused of being the mastermind behind a "sprawling cyber-fraud empire" operating under his multi-national company, the Prince Group, said the US Department of Justice (DOJ)."[1]
"An airline that has become the first Cambodian company to attempt to list itself on a U.S. stock exchange has substantial ties to a notorious business conglomerate dogged by allegations of criminality"[2]
"Chen, through the Hong Kong-registered Asia Corporation, acquired a 50 percent stake in Habanos, the worldwide distributor of Cuban cigars, and subsequently leveraged this control to inflate market prices."[3]
Overall: Expanded from redirect and nominated within window. QPQ done; only one required. Copyvio Detector clear after I removed some unnecessary quotations from CNN. Three issues: (1) The hook is interesting, but it's not precisely accurate. The DOJ press release describes a sprawling cyber-fraud empire operating under the Prince Group umbrella, which is not necessarily the same as saying the company is the cyber-fraud empire. It could mean that the company provides cover for the scams through its legitimate investments and subsidiaries. That doesn't mean the company isn't a participant in the alleged crimes, just pointing out that the hook doesn't precisely match the source. (2) By attributing the charges to the company and not Chen, we don't automatically implicate a WP:BLPCRIME issue, and AFAIK there is no similar policy about criminal allegations related to companies. But given that Chen was indicted alongside the company, we're verging into BLPCRIME territory with a hook that uses the description of the prosecution in an ongoing case to describe the subject. (3) The "history" section includes a lot of padding on Chen's bio that's unrelated to the Prince Group. If that were to be removed per WP:DUE, we're very close to the DYK character minimum. I also think there's a presentability issue with the quasi-bullet point format of the history section, and I'd like to see that recast in encyclopedic prose. Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:22, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Dclemens1971: Thanks for the review. Point by point:
(1) I see what you're saying. How about this: ...The Prince Group owns an airline, controls Cuban cigar distribution, and according to the US Department of Justice, operates "a sprawling cyber-fraud empire"?
(2) I'm not seeing that this is a problem. The Prince Group as a company is explicitly indicted, and the hook does not mention Chen at all.
(3) Since this is a current news topic, the article is being heavily edited (by other users, not just me). Chen Zhi (businessman) was recently spun off into its own article, and I plan on moving all the biographical bits about Chen into that article.
Also, could you expand on the "Long enough" flag? Per DYKCheck, the article is at 2888 chars, comfortably above 1500 (even after the Chen content above is hived off). Asamboi (talk) 19:50, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Asamboi: (1-2) My concern is that we should not be putting unproven criminal charges on the homepage, even for a company and not a person. How is this for a more factual approach that doesn't involve repeating the prosecutorial perspective: ALT2: ... that the Prince Group owns an airline, controls Cuban cigar distribution—and was sanctioned by British and U.S. authorities as an alleged transnational criminal organization? (Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/10/26/cyber-scamming-prince-group-syndicate-singapore/, https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c70jz8e00g1o). This leaves out the question of guilt or innocence and focuses on facts (sanctions were imposed). (3) My character count once the extraneous info is removed is 1619, which could fall under 1500 easily with a copy edit by another editor. I would focus on fleshing the article out a bit and providing more buffer, as well as prosifying the list-like nature of the "History" section. (I should add that the word count alone won't hold up approval of the nomination, but if another editor trims the page further, a prep builder or queuer might need to bump it back to the unapproved list.) Dclemens1971 (talk) 20:29, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Dclemens1971: I have removed the extraneous content about Chen and the article is still sitting at 2534 chars. I'm happy to sub in your hook.
Overall: Article was created on October 24 (within the seven days) and as of now has 2763 characters (445 words) of readable prose size. The article is well-sourced, neutral in tone and free of plagiarism. The hooks are both interesting an supported by inline citations. The double QPQ requierements have been fullfilled. I approve of this nomination, but I just want to point to three things.
with ALT1, Berberian was still Berio's wife when the piece was composed, so "former" seems unnecesary to me.
In the lead, it is stated the piece was premiered by Berberian on 2006, while in the next section the date is 1966.
I am unsure about the copyright status of the recording featured in the external links. If possible it should be substituted with one taken from an official channel. NeoGaze (talk) 00:12, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the review. I fixed the performance year in the lead, don't remember of what I was dreaming when I typed that nonsense. The other years, however: they were divorced in 1964, and he composed it in 1965, so? I don't know if there is an official recording online with her. Will look. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:04, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
To whom it may concern: just letting you know that due to severe and intermittent broadband issues I may not be able to respond to questions immediately, if at all. Apologies. I am checking my watchlist when possible, and attempting to prioritise DYK issues when possible. Storye book (talk) 09:32, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: @TouchedWithFire: I read the Guardian article awhile ago, pretty interesting. I also took the liberty of adding the photo to the hook. The sources are all legit, but I can't say I disagree with the reader who tagged it as possibly incorporating AI generated text. I removed some of the obvious stuff, but it's still there. Most pressing, the last seven sentences are not currently cited. I've also proposed an ALT1 to make the hook less clunky. 1brianm7 (talk) 02:20, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@TouchedWithFire: okay, everything is sourced and the text looks mostly fine, so I’m approving
I think this will have to be pulled. I have serious concerns regarding LLM usage with this article, and further, a read of the German version makes it clear that it is full of factual inaccuracies. It would be embarrassing to let this go to the main page in this state - it needs to be rewritten. MediaKyle (talk) 18:10, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've removed my approval until this can be resolved. Looking at the German version through Google translate, the only things that stick out are some bad phrasing, redundancy, and a few eh sentences ("reflecting his role as an educated professional within the Nazi academic milieu"). I don't see any factual inaccuracies. The prose has significant similarities with the German article, so I'm fairly certain parts of it were translated (by the creator or an LLM I don't know), but it is not attributed as such. Pinging creator @TouchedWithFire:1brianm7 (talk) 19:11, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I'm taking a step back. Yesterday I worked on the article for an hour, added sources, and rewrote a large part of it. I wanted to take part in DYK because it seemed interesting and important to me, I hope I'll succeed next time. TouchedWithFire (talk) 04:26, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@TouchedWithFire: I’ve found appearing on DYK to be a fulfilling part of writing an article, I’m sorry that this experience hasn’t been the best for you. If you so desire, I’ll reject this nomination. However, I would recommend against doing so as this can still be accepted until it timeouts in about two months, and you might change your mind. Looking at the article’s content, I don’t see any factual inaccuracies or problem with its biographical content (pinging @MediaKyle: to ask what they saw), just some redundancy and problems with sources not being placed next to text they support. The article is by no means unable to be brought to standard and those problems are not impossible to solve. 1brianm7 (talk) 19:58, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much, I really appreciate your reply. If so, I will follow your advice and would ask that the door remain open. I will work on it soon and try to bring it up to par. TouchedWithFire (talk) 07:22, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note that the article states that Onnen is the likely murderer while the hooks portray him as the undisputed murderer. It's one or the other and this needs to be settled before this can run. Bremps...16:06, 31 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you all for the feedback, I rewrote much of the article and I think I addressed all the issues. @1brianm7: If you could, I would appreciate it if you would give it another look. Thank you.
Pinging nominator and those who have previously raised concerns, feel free to ignore . @TouchedWithFire, MediaKyle, Gdeblois19, Chipmunkdavis, and Bremps: First I'd like to thank all the editors who raised concerns with the article and helped improve it, and TouchedWithFire for not getting disheartened and working on it. The article has undergone significant edits to ensure source text integrity and get it up to standard. I have just done a significant round of copyedits and formatting mostly, but I did not find any factually incorrect claims or issues with source-text integrity. I would like to get a second opinion to make sure I'm calling this right and no debilitating concerns remain before removing the banner. As for the hook issue raised, I think ALT1a: ... that historian Jürgen Matthäus used artificial intelligence to help identify Jakobus Onnen as the gunman in The Last Jew in Vinnitsa(pictured)? resolves it. Also, we should probably get a dummy edit to provide attribution to the .de article, but I have no clue on how to do that. 1brianm7 (talk) 19:25, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that notable scholars of media capture say that events in 2025 in the United States are "unbelievable" and "worse than anything we imagined"?
Source: Simon, Joel (2025-08-05). "Why so many experts think media capture is already a reality in America". Columbia Journalism Review. Retrieved 2025-10-21. Now experts warn that media capture has come to the United States. "We watch unbelievingly," Mungiu-Pippidi said. "In the old days we thought capture was mostly a problem in Africa and Latin America and then in Eastern Europe after the fall of the Berlin Wall," noted Anya Schiffrin, another scholar of media capture and the director of the Technology, Media, and Communications specialization at Columbia University. "What's happened in the last six months in the US is worse than anything we imagined.".
Comment: The word "notable" is used as Mungiu-Pippidi is the scholar whose definition of media capture is most widely used, and Schiffrin is the scholar who has written or edited the most publications on the subject.
Created by Onceinawhile (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 84 past nominations.
Not reviewing it, but there is a problem I have with the article: in the scope of the article you mention "platform capture" (social media) but you don't speak about social media apart from the very first sentence and from a cursory look you don't seem to cite any source that speaks about social media. Is there a reason for this? Szmenderowiecki (talk) 00:56, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I'm sad that I didn't get a good image when she played near me in summer. We could add that she was the youngest winner at the time, but I think 17 is fairly young enough. Other hook ideas welcome.
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 2158 past nominations.
ALT1: ... that “...Your mind is caged, let it free. My body is not, let it be … My choice: to love a man, or a woman, or both. Remember, you are my choice. I’m not your privilege. ..." is from 2015 Film My Choice?
ALT2: ... that “2015 film My Choice features music by French composer Mathias Duplessy, using percussion instruments for acoustics along with Mongolian Tuvan throat singing technique?
ALT3:... that The rise of neoliberal feminism, as seen in film My Choice, stems from complex gender constructions across states, markets, and civil societies encompassing multiple ideological intersections?
Source: Secondary: Chakraborty, Gauri D. (24 March 2023). "6. New Feminist Visibilities and Sisterhood: Re-interpreting Marriage Desire and Self-Fulfillment in mainstream Hindi Cinema" (PDF). In Chakraborty Paunksnis, Runa; Paunksnis, Šarūnas (eds.). Gender, Cinema, Streaming Platforms: Shifting Frames in Neoliberal India. Germany: Springer International Publishing. pp. 154, 155. doi:10.1007/978-3-031-16700-3_6. ISBN 978-3-031-16700-3
ALT4: ... that Lyrics of 2015 film My Choice were written by Kersi Khambatta?
Comment: Now the article has been assessed as B class.( dif of the article talk page history) Just for transparency and record: This is re-nomination (link to previous nomination page) after previous draftfication and reentry in the article namespace with due process of addressing issues raised during draftification with the help of WP:Teahouse feedback and copy edit supported by substantially by two copy editors and other multiple experienced copy editors too looked into the article, edited by 19 users by now (Link to Xtools) and re-entry by WP:AFC process. It has been confirmed at DYK talk page that the article can be re-nominated after reentry in the article namespace with due WP:AFC process.
Created by Bookku (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 9 past nominations.
Also (from previous own comment):" To those having music related curiosity Alt2 might sound relatively more interesting, but this DYK's purpose is to focus on the film and not the music. I hope reviewers will take note of this aspect while taking the call."
Though for Alt5 we will need to consider two different different sentences from secondary source or form a sentence from primary source per MOS:FILMPLOT. As such WP:CALC says:
".. Routine calculations do not count as original research, provided there is consensus among editors that the results of the calculations are correct, and a meaningful reflection of the sources. Basic arithmetic, such as adding numbers, converting units, or calculating a person's age, is almost always permissible. .."
... that for Romanian shepherds in the Carpathians, even the staff and the whip could sing, as the fluier (flute) was sometimes built directly into them?
Source: Original Romanian: Asemenea fluiere sînt uneori construite într-o bîtă («fluier în botă »), în care caz se taie în tub o deschizătură corespunzătoare găurii de jos a ţevii. Alteori, un fluier cu dop şi şase deschizături pentru degete se face în codirişca unui bici («fluier bici»).
English Translation: Such fluiers are sometimes constructed within a stick or staff (fluier în botă, literally 'flute in a stick'), in which case an aperture corresponding to the lowest finger hole of the pipe is cut into the outer casing. Alternatively, a fipple fluier (with a whistle mechanism) and six finger holes is constructed within the handle (shaft) of a whip (fluier bici, 'whip fluier').
Alexandru, Tiberiu (1956). Instrumentele muzicale ale poporului romîn [The musical instruments of the Romanian people] (in Romanian). București: Editura de stat pentru literatură şi artă, p.63
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Created by Iurii.s (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
Source: The Television [ja] (link): すべて実際に作っています。普段から作っているものと、各キャラクターに合わせて用意したレシピがあります。あと、めんつゆのメーカーさんの公式レシピからお借りしたものもいくつか。[I've actually been making all the dishes. There are dishes that I've made normally, and recipes I've prepared that match the characters. Also, there are some that I've borrowed from official recipes from mentsuyu manufacturers.]
Other problems: - Hook is interesting but is there any way to support the much more interesting ... that every chapter of the manga series Mentsuyu Hitori Meshihas recipes includes a recipe on cooking with mentsuyu?? It seems to be true but I can't find English-language sources to support this stronger statement.
QPQ: Done.
Overall: Nominated the same day as article creation. DYK Check returns 3,351 characters of prose. All statements in the article and the hook are cited. Primarily to Japanese-language sources, but with provided translations that are close enough to machine translations that I accept them. Earwig review is clear. Hook is interesting enough. Nominator did two QPQs as required, which were satisfactory. Dan Leonard (talk • contribs)08:49, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Driveby nom. I can understand reservations for WP:DYKFICTION, but ALT0 is more of a game mechanic, some of which have been approved. Oh, and I'd like an one-day extension on this since I just missed the mark by an hour.
Moved to mainspace by Cukie Gherkin (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 110 past nominations.
As the author, I thought I would suggest that the ideal DYK would be this: " ... that the character became so popular that fans purchased so much ryegrass for the horse that inspired the character's creation that it crashed the purchasing website?" This is just a rough draft of what it could be. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 00:58, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I did have that idea, but also my reservations on it because the source doesn't explicitly say that the fans of the character herself were the ones who crashed the site. Still, I can make this one work:
Comment: Please let me know if I should propose another hook or if there are any questions/issues!
Improved to Good Article status by DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 35 past nominations.
... that in the Romanian Carpathians, young women once flirted with the hills – playing the fifăfluier and answering its echo with yodel-like hăulit singing?
ALT1: ... that women the Romanian Carpathians traditionally play the one-note fifăfluier, around which their voice "embroiders" a rudimentary melody using a yodel-like hăulit singing?
Source: Fifă [dudina, suieras]. End-blown notched flute of Romania. It is made from a hollow hemlock or lovage stalk, a handbreadth long, stopped with a node at the lower end... The fifa can produce only one note, and is blown mostly by women. Its intermittent note is a sound axis around which the performer’s voice ‘embroiders’ a rudimentary melody using a yodel-like vocal technique (hăulit)...
Libin, Laurence, ed. (2014). The Grove Dictionary of Musical Instruments. Vol. 2 (2 ed.). New York: Oxford University Press, p. 278
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Created by Iurii.s (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
First of all, allow me to congratulate our new colleague Iurii.s for what emerges as a remarkably well written, and thoroughly engaging, series about Romanian-areal folk music. This is a new, long, thorough, well researched and plagiarism-free article; the only drawback is perhaps that the lead does not summarize the article content, but that is obviously not a DYK requirement. User is, as mentioned, new, and QPQ is not required. That said: I should point out that the hook is not verified by the source, nor is it apparently mentioned in the article. Unless there is some arcane terminology that eludes me (and would elude most readers), "to flirt" would indicate that women actually personify the hills and act out as if they were singing to romantic partners. Is there any other way to phrase this? Dahn (talk) 07:38, 7 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the positive feedback and the kind words! I really appreciate it. And you're right, the hook needs improvement. I've added ALT1 version. -Iurii.s (talk) 10:36, 7 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The ALT is certainly an improvement, but the word "embroiders" would need to also appear in the article. What is more: the cited source is only cited once in the article, and not for the fact in the hook (!). Please note that the hook needs to be based on something actually found in the article -- you can easily solve this by adding it to the article, with the corresponding citation. Once that is fixed, please note: the ALT is a bit on the wordy side, and loses focus. I will suggest a punchier wording once you will have addressed the query above. Dahn (talk) 22:10, 7 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that Indonesian ambassador Niniek Kun Naryatie was able to catch up with her higher education studies due to the introduction of the semester system? Source: "Pramugari: Seragam Keren dan ke Luar Negeri". Alumni. No. 35. 2021. pp. 34–35. Retrieved 27 October 2025. "Di jurusan Komunikasi, sempat minder, banyak teman cantik cantik, sementara saya tomboy, hahaha.” Sempat down, gagal ke tingkat dua, tidak lulus satu mata kuliah. Keadaan ini disikapi dengan pikiran, positip. “Kegiatan saya banyak di luar kampus, kursus sekretaris, kerja paruh waktu sebagai tenaga admin di lembaga pendidikan. Ketika mulai ada sistem semesteran, saya bisa menyusul teman-teman seangkatan.”" [In the Communications department, I felt insecure. There were so many beautiful friends, while I was a tomboy, hahaha." I was down for a while, failing to make it to the second year, failing one course. I responded to this situation with a positive mindset. "I had a lot of activities outside of campus, taking secretarial courses, working part-time as an admin at an educational institution. When the semester system started, I was able to catch up with my classmates."]
ALT1: ... that Indonesian ambassador Niniek Kun Naryatie initially wanted to resign as a diplomat after giving birth to her first child, but was convinced not to by her husband? Source: "Pramugari: Seragam Keren dan ke Luar Negeri". Alumni. No. 35. 2021. pp. 34–35. Retrieved 27 October 2025. "Setelah penugasan saya ambil cuti di luar tanggungan selama dua tahun. Cuti ini sangat penting dalam menentukan perjalanan karir saya. Saya bisa membangun fondasi rumah tangga lebih kokoh, menjalani peran istri sekaligus ibu. Saya sempat berencana mundur dari Deplu, tapi suami mengingatkan, status diplomat bukan hanya milik saya tapi juga kebanggaan orangtua, dan negara yang sudah berinvestasi besar. Jadi harus diteruskan." [After my assignment, I took two years of unpaid leave. This leave was crucial in determining my career path. I was able to build a stronger foundation for my family, fulfilling my roles as both wife and mother. I considered resigning from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, but my husband reminded me that being a diplomat wasn't just mine, but also a source of pride for my parents and the country that had invested so much. So, I had to continue.]
ALT2: ... that Indonesian diplomat Niniek Kun Naryatie introduced the diaspora card during her tenure as foreign minister advisor? Source: Sugiarsono, Joko (29 July 2017). "Niniek Kun Naryatie, Staf Ahli Menteri Luar Negeri: "Ke Depan, Kartu Diaspora Akan Lebih Sakti Lagi"". SWA. Retrieved 27 October 2025. "Pada Maret 2016 telah ditunjuk seorang staf ahli menteri yang khusus menangani urusan diaspora. Posisi ini secara resmi disebut Staf Ahli Menteri Luar Negeri Bidang Sosial Budaya dan Pemberdayaan Masyarakat Indonesia di Luar Negeri. Meskipun selevel eselon 1, posisi ini bersifat nonstruktural. Orang yang pertama menduduki posisi ini adalah Niniek Kun Naryatie, seorang pejabat karier di Kemenlu RI. Produk pertama yang ditelurkan Niniek adalah Kartu Diaspora, yang resminya bernama Kartu Masyarakat Indonesia di Luar Negeri." [In March 2016, an expert staff member was appointed to the minister specifically handle diaspora affairs. This position is officially called the Expert Staff to the Minister of Foreign Affairs for Socio-Cultural Affairs and Empowerment of Indonesian Communities Abroad. Although at echelon 1 level, this position is non-structural. The first person to hold this position was Niniek Kun Naryatie, a career official at the Indonesian Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Niniek's first product was the Diaspora Card, officially known as the Indonesian Community Abroad Card.]
Source: "In the women’s 400m hurdles final on Thursday, there were no mistakes as she dominated her way to the first global title of her career." (link)
Improved to Good Article status by Editør (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 25 past nominations.
... that in the past teenagers in Ukraine would be supplied by their parents with money and food in order to organize parties, during which sexual contact could also take place?
Source: Sex and People. What was Ukrainians' attitude to eroticism? (in Ukrainian)
Are you sure that this is a 5x expansion? By prose size, it seems to be less than a 4x expansion since when you started editing it recently (1121 B before, 3622 B now). --Metropolitan90(talk)04:11, 3 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There are large portions of this article that lack citations. Compliance with WP:V is a base requirement to run at DYK, so citations for every statement (at least at the end of every paragraph) are required. Otherwise, I think we could see this article promoted to run at DYK. ~ Pbritti (talk) 14:52, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good overall. Both 5x expansion and GA promotion qualify it. No QPQs needed. Image is PD. Solid sourcing throughout. I've changed it from "whiskey" to "whisky" in the hook. Hook is well-supported.
I just had one issue with the average age mentioned in the article (368), which, unlike the maximum age, I could not locate in the cited source. --Երևանցիtalk17:49, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yerevantsi in the ref, currently ref 9, "Longevity of tall tree species in temperate forests of the northern Japanese Archipelago", go to the ref and find this sentence, "Age information for all tree species is provided in Table 1." Click on Table 1, and you get a popup with this info. MisawaSakura (talk) 18:15, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@1brianm7 and MisawaSakura: I checked the references and they all seemed to have come from a single press release, apart from the 1991 reference which isn't about the still undiscovered book. I think it is probably worth getting more opinions about whether the article is suitable for the main page at WT:DYK, what do you think? There is a similar discussion about a new TV series at WT:DYK#WP:PROMOTION. TSventon (talk) 18:48, 5 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
So what? They're still reliable sources and each doesn't include the full story so we need all of them to get as much info as possible on the book. To think that a Dr. Seuss book isn't worthy of DYK for that reason is mind boggling.MisawaSakura (talk) 20:10, 5 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@TSventon: The AP and UPI are both cited, different wire services, which makes it at least two independent sources, enough under WP:NBOOK, and Seuss is a notable enough figure under NBOOK as well. Now, about the WP:PROMOTION concerns, I don't see any weight in them, especially when it's scheduled about six months prior to its release. I think this article is fine completeness-wise (if that applies, which I would say it doesn't) as the only content that could be added is a reception section, which averages 1.5 sentences in similar books along the lines of "Dr. Seuss wrote this book, it is [insert mildly positive adjective]", possibly with a side of "Dr. Seuss wrote better books". Not exactly article-changing. The hook could possibly be amended to emphasize that its unreleased, but I don't have a problem with the current one (I did it approve it, after all). ALT0a: ... that an unreleased book by Dr. Seuss was discovered 34 years after his death? 1brianm7 (talk) 21:58, 5 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@MisawaSakura: I am sorry to disagree with you, disagreements happen on Wikipedia, I hope your mind isn't boggled too much. @1brianm7: I don't think that the article meets WP:GNG as the articles seem to be based on press releases, but I would agree that a book by Seuss is probably notable under WP:NBOOK. I have noted my concern at WT:DYK, where views are mixed so far. I am not disputing the hook, I think discovering a book implies it is unpublished, if the book had been published in some form you might say discovering a lost book. TSventon (talk) 00:38, 6 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You can already pre order this book. It's going to happen. Every Seuss book I know of has an article. Seuss is such an important children's author that he has a template with scores of his books. How you can think this (pending) book isn't wiki notable makes no sense to me whatsoever. MisawaSakura (talk) 00:52, 6 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That makes even less sense. I don't know why people worry so much stuff like this instead important things like article quality. I am beyond tired of stuff like this happening to me at DYK. Therefore, I'm making this easy. I'm withdrawing all my DYK noms and will never nominate one again. WITHDRAWN. MisawaSakura (talk) 01:08, 6 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
To answer your question, that is why WP:SNG exists. GNG is so broad that it is not always obvious if something would be considered notable under it or not. The SNGs aim to solve that: they provide adjusted notability guidelines that are more suited to specific fields. I understand the frustration, but bear in mind that TSventon is actually saying that the book is notable, so consider it a point in your favor.
... that Logan Barrio(map pictured) in Santa Ana, California, is significant to the city's Chicano/Mexican-American history and is unofficially referred to as Historic Logan Barrio?
Due to multiple unverified statements (I've tagged two with "citation needed"), I can not approve at this time. The EARWIG copyright tool flagged only unavoidable terms, so no concerns there. I believe the image is a copyright violation, though. Please indicate why that map is public domain. The hook is a bit lackluster—pick a particular individual or event that demonstrates the neighborhood's history. I have moved the article to the shortest fully disambiguated form. Ping me when you have completed the necessary changes. Best, ~ Pbritti (talk) 15:21, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Added necessary citations. Researching alternative map options.
ALT1 ... that Logan Barrio is one of the earliest Mexican barrios and oldest neighborhoods in Santa Ana, California? Gracias, Archiving archives (talk), 09:38, 4 November 2025 (PST)
@Archiving archives: I have had to remove two other images for copyright issues. Additionally, I have verifiability concerns. For the section "Religion", can you provide a quote from the cited text that supports the content of that section? Please also provide the page numbers. Best, ~ Pbritti (talk) 18:11, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Pbritti: The Chepa's Park image I own. I took the picture, it is a public space. For the section "Religion", you can find the information on page 49 and 50. Regarding the neighborhood "Logan Barrio," what proof do you want? Would something from the city suffice? As for the 25th Reunion flyer, that is posted for public use on their Instagram page, and resident Michael Andrade provided permission for use and provided a copy without the email and phone number. Gracias, Archiving archives (talk), 10:28, 4 November 2025 (PST)
You do not own the design of the sign, though, and the sign incorporates an image that is likely not in the public domain, meaning there are two levels of copyright possibly being violated. If you have evidence that the flyer was released under fair use, you must provide evidence of that (see WP:Fair use for more information). Just because something is shared in public does not make it public domain. I need you to include the quotes from page 49 and 50 for the purposes of verification. ~ Pbritti (talk) 19:25, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Pbritti: I am working on obtaining better images. The owners of the copyrights are working on making them available. I added citations for the religion section and the OC Streetcar and Logan Barrio connection. Gracias, Archiving archives (talk), 12:49, 4 November 2025 (PST)
Substantial portions lack sourcing, while other portions read as promotional of a mural or a particular historian's book. External links mid-body of the article are also not appropriate. At this time, I'm inclined to fail the review. I'll give you a couple days to take some time to thoroughly clean the article. Consider looking WP:FIRSTARTICLE for some additional guidance. Best, ~ Pbritti (talk) 17:26, 9 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Pbritti: I added the citation needed and removed the external links. Gracias, Archiving archives (talk), 13:50, 10 November 2025 (PST)
Comment: Please let me know if I should suggest another hook!
Improved to Good Article status by DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 36 past nominations.
The article is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, and there are no copyvio problems detected by Earwig. A spotcheck of the sources doesn't reveal any issues with verifiability or close paraphrasing. ALT0 is the most interesting hook, but I'm wondering if there is a source that verifies this besides Lill's own recollection? I don't see this as an issue for a little personal tidbit like this but just thought I'd ask. QPQ is also still needed.Zeibgeist (talk) 00:50, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1: ... that the architecture of Liyue's main city in Genshin Impact was influenced by a town in Hunan? Source: Liu, Shuxiu; Huang, Xiangchu (April 25, 2021). "游戏环境下的中国文化输出探索——以《原神》为例". 科技传播 (in Chinese). doi:10.16607/j.cnki.1674-6708.2021.08.040.
ALT2: ... that the music of Liyue in Genshin Impact adopts the traditional Chinese pentatonic scale? Source: 邸大鹏; 腰思维 (2022). "RPG游戏中地图音乐的描绘功能——以《原神》为例". 文化月刊 (in Simplified Chinese). 1. 中国文化传媒集团. ISSN 1004-6631. CNKI:WHYK202201060.
Improved to Good Article status by BeanieFan11 (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 430 past nominations.
Closing as incomplete per WP:QPQ (" A nomination which doesn't include a QPQ (and is not from an exempt nominator) may be closed as "incomplete" without warning.") RoySmith(talk)13:31, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It is ludicrous to quickfail a very recent DYK nom – with a QPQ – on the basis that "no QPQ has been provided". I will get a second one done later today, as with the other noms. BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:50, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that Interstate 155 is the only piece of surface transportation infrastructure that directly connects the U.S. states of Missouri and Tennessee? Source: [1][2]
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Improved to Good Article status by Bneu2013 (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 11 past nominations.
Another comment: Can we use, perhaps, some clearer and less jargon-y language than "surface transportation infrastructure"? While I understand that the point is to make clear that there is no rail or pedestrian connection, I don't think most readers will pick up on that. It sounds too clever ("Why Don't We Do It In the Surface Transportation Infrastructure?" "The surface transportation infrastructure to hell is paved with good intentions") Daniel Case (talk) 22:35, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for the late response. This is something I was on the fence about. I did indeed want to emphasize that there is no rail or pedestrian connection. If anyone knows of a better way to emphasize this, I'm all for it. I had also considered something like "Did you know that Interstate 155 crosses the Mississippi River on the Caruthersville Bridge, the only bridge connecting Missouri and Tennessee?" Bneu2013 (talk) 18:37, 1 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Improved to Good Article status by BeanieFan11 (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 433 past nominations.
... that Philadelphia Wings lacrosse player Jake Bergey was drafted by the Boston Blazers before being traded back to the Wings, then was drafted again by Boston, before being traded back again?
Improved to Good Article status by BeanieFan11 (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 431 past nominations.
... that the Jack-be-little pumpkin(pictured) can be turned into a serving bowl for soup?
Source: "Because the Jack-be-Little is an attention getter and a conversation piece - particularly if the creative cook serves up the soup in the hollowed out little fruits - people are asking, Where did it come from?" Christian Science Monitor
ALT1: ... that the Jack-be-little pumpkin(pictured) only became publicly available in the late 1980s? Source: "...the Jack-be-Little pumpkin, a heavily fluted orange-colored miniature, has taken the country by storm these past two seasons... Ten years ago, an Indiana farmer approached seed producers Bob Nelson and Larry Hollar with a bushel basket filled with miniature pumpkins. If they were prepared to work with the seed somewhat, ``clean it up a bit, as he put it, the company might be able to ``do something with his unusual pumpkins....``We knew the pumpkin would sell, Nelson says, but they had no idea it would take off as it did. Home gardeners and commercial growers alike took to producing the Jack-be-Little....Novelty items have a way of skyrocketing in popularity one year and then falling the next, but the tiny pumpkin seems to be holding on. After four years on the market, seed merchants have already contracted with Hollar and Co. for 70 percent of this past season's record orders. ``That's very high for a novelty, Nelson says." Christian Science Monitor
This article is new enough and just long enough (1518 characters). No issues with presentability. QPQ is done. I like the first hook -- it's short enough, interesting, and cited to reliable source. Image is clear (Quality Image on Commons) and in the public domain. The article looks neutral and reasonably sourced, but I'm flagging a couple small issues found via spot-check: (1) the line "as serving bowls for pumpkin or vegetable soup" is lifted straight from the source, so that sentence needs better paraphrasing, and (2) the claim that "The pumpkins are mostly used as decoration" comes from a source that's almost forty years old, so I'm wondering if there's a more recent source to confirm that's still true today. Let me know when you've addressed these flagged items. Best, Alanna the Brave (talk) 02:03, 7 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I'm not sure that it's really accurate to describe a vessel as "sail-powered", although I've seen a few sources use that term. A more precise term is Wind-assisted propulsion, but I'm not sure of the best way to phrase that in a DYK hook.
Created by Yadsalohcin (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.
As ever, there's the conflict between snappiness of a hook and technical accuracy, but since there's "designed to use sails as the main propulsion" in the article, the piped wikilink in 'wind-propelled cargo ship' would seem a reasonable compromise... Thanks @Zeibgeist -Yadsalohcin (talk) 10:10, 5 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This article is just long enough, new, and very well cited. Interesting topic that could really use an image! I understand Yadsalohcin's concern, but I really don't think this is an issue in this case. All that's needed is the QPQ. Maury Markowitz (talk) 15:50, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Maury Markowitz: Thanks for the review! I just completed my QPQ; sorry for the delay on that. There was an image used on the French wiki but it was unfortunately a copyvio. Hopefully a properly-licensed image can be added at some point. Zeibgeist (talk) 00:58, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that during World War II, fighter pilot Richard A. Peterson(pictured) shot down and killed a parachuting German pilot after the same pilot shot at parachuting American bomber crews?
Improved to Good Article status by Toadboy123 (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 67 past nominations.
Hook not cited to a reliable source. If the only source for this is Peterson's recollection, we should attribute the claim to him—but that would make for a too long and awkward hook as written. (t · c) buidhe04:23, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@User:Buidhe I modified the source and added this source (from the book Fighter Group: The 352nd "Blue-Nosed Bastards" in World War II), which mentions the fact related to the hook. Let me know if its good to go. - Toadboy123 (talk) 13:12, 3 November 2025 (UTC).[reply]
@User:Buidhe I tried to find the source but I am unable to do so even though it was cited in attacks on parachutists article. Only Discovery Channel's Wings 1988 episode Target Berlin has Peterson describing the incident. I could cite it using TV episode citation. But if its not possible here is another hook: ALT1 ... that during World War II, fighter pilot Richard A. Peterson(pictured) named his P-51 fighter aircraft after his wife's letter closing? [22] Let me know if this is good to go as hook. - Toadboy123 (talk) 13:13, 4 November 2025 (UTC).[reply]
Here is the problem : you state the original hook as fact, but the only thing that seems to be verifiable is that he said it in an interview. That's an article problem, not just a hook problem. Please avoid citing any sources you have not seen per WP:SAYWHEREYOUREADIT. (t · c) buidhe13:37, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@User:Buidhe I understand and I will be careful in future DYKs regarding this rule. As of now, I have introduced an alternate hook (ALT1). Could you check that and see if that is good to go? - Toadboy123 (talk) 01:57, 5 November 2025 (UTC).[reply]
The pov issue with the article hasn't been fixed. Furthermore, I am not convinced that the new hook meets dyk requirements given that if you are naming an aircraft it has to be named after something, and younger readers may not know what a "letter closing" even is? (Now marking as failed per the above issues and this (t · c) buidhe14:28, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@User:Buidhe How can you just jump and just conclude the hook is 'failed' without letting me give some suggestions to improve it? Regarding aircraft names, its unique and if your concern is how younger readers may not know what a "letter closing" even is?, how about replacing 'letter closing' with 'concluding line in letter'? And also, could you let me know the pov issue in the article that needs to be fixed? - Toadboy123 (talk) 13:15, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"Peterson attacked the Bf 109 and forced the German pilot to bail out of the aircraft. He shot and killed him as he descended on his parachute" is something we agreed needed to be attributed and cited to a specific timestamp in the video in order to be verifiable.
And that's not even the only pov issue in the article. Sentences like "Peterson had 15.5 air victories and destroyed 3.5 aircraft on the ground" is very problematic when you consider the systematic overcounting of "victories". (t · c) buidhe14:12, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@User:Buidhe For the documentary I have inserted the time stamp where Peterson describes about the incident, as a form of citation. Regarding the aerial victories part, it has been properly cited using literature and Air Force study on aerial victories. Regarding American flying aces, overcounting is not common as aerial victories are confirmed through thorough analysis of combat footage, wingmen witness reports, etc. Let me know if it good to go now. - Toadboy123 (talk) 13:16, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1 ... that when he was 12 Knowa De Baraso gained national attention when he challenged Mike Lindell, regarding their claims about the 2020 U.S. presidential election? Source: https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/mike-lindell-dnc-mustache-trump-b2600206.html "In one video, Lindell is seen spouting a number of baseless claims including a false claim that hundreds of thousands of votes were missing in Georgia during the 2020 election. ... When asked for his source, Lindell replied: “Trust me bro.” It was at this moment that the 67-year-old businessman met his match: 12-year-old Democratic influencer Knowa. ... “So your source is, ‘trust me, bro’?” the young content creator quipped in a video posted to his 43,000 X followers.
I'm on the fence about whether a Wikipedia article is appropriate about this child, but I'd point out that he wasn't a "teenager", he was only 12 years old when he asked the question to Lindell. His age seems to be what drew attention to him, so I would suggest is age (at the time) being included in the DYK, rather than "teenager". A 19-year-old teenager involved in politics is nowhere near as unusual as a 12/13 year old. Sionk (talk) 13:40, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Sionk, I've updated ALT1 per your observation. ATL0 he was 13 by the time that interview occurred, so no need to update that. Regarding your comment about the subject being a child, I was slightly hesitant about approving it at WP:AFC; however, I determined that they met WP:GNG and considered that they have their own social media presence and it looks like they're going to keep at it. TarnishedPathtalk01:47, 3 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
A couple of comments: For ALT0, can we find any sources that confirm he went on the campaign trail with Biden and Harris? That would be a stronger claim than that he said he had been on the campaign with them. For ALT1, please change "their claims" to "his claims" in reference to Mike Lindell. --Metropolitan90(talk)00:48, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1a ... that when he was 12 Knowa De Baraso gained national attention when he challenged Mike Lindell, regarding his claims about the 2020 U.S. presidential election? Source: https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/mike-lindell-dnc-mustache-trump-b2600206.html "In one video, Lindell is seen spouting a number of baseless claims including a false claim that hundreds of thousands of votes were missing in Georgia during the 2020 election. ... When asked for his source, Lindell replied: “Trust me bro.” It was at this moment that the 67-year-old businessman met his match: 12-year-old Democratic influencer Knowa. ... “So your source is, ‘trust me, bro’?” the young content creator quipped in a video posted to his 43,000 X followers.
@Metropolitan90:, the best I've been able to find is an 11alive.com story in which there is a quote: De Baraso has worked with and supported several Democrats at the state level and nationally, including Former President Joe Biden. The teen said he was tapped by Former Vice President Kamala Harris’ team during her 2024 presidential run for outreach to the 18 to 24-year-old voting demographic. In Georgia, De Baraso has worked with heavy hitters like District Attorney Fani Willis, among others.
... that rabbi Alvin Kass helped negotiate the end of a hostage crisis by trading two pastrami sandwiches from the Carnegie Deli for the gunman's pistol?
Source: "In 1981, Kass successfully negotiated with a purportedly Jewish man who had taken a woman hostage. In exchange for the hostage-taker’s guns, Kass traded two (count ‘em) pastrami sandwiches from the Carnegie Deli." The Forward
... that, while interrogated by Romanian authorities for his involvement with a 1934 protest, poet Eugen Constant claimed to have persuaded the examining magistrate about the validity of Marxism?
Source: Petre Dragu, "Partidul — izvorul îndrăznelii noastre. Convorbire cu poetul Eugen Constant", in Scînteia Tineretului, 13 April 1971, p. 1: Prin 1934, după ce publicasem un volum de versuri în care înfieram „orinduirea cea crudă şi nedreaptă“ şi pe ministrul de justiţie — care se lăudase că poartă la brîu toate cheile penitenciarelor din România — , am fost chemat în faţa judecăţii. Procurorul care m-a „instruit“, un tînăr intelectual autentic, m-a primit, la prima înfăţişare, bătînd cu pumnul în masă, ameninţîndu-mă, insultîndu-mă, ca pe un „duşman al poporului“, ce mă socotea. Şi chiar aşa mă considera, prin prisma a ce şi cum învăţase el despre lupta revoluţionară şi ţelurile ei. [...] L-am provocat, atunci, pe loc, la o discuţie „de lămurire“, discuţie pe care — ca dovadă că nu mă-nşelasem asupra lui — el însuşi a dorit s-o continuăm şi în întîlnirile următoare. Urmarea : m-a socotit nevinovat și, fiind pedepsit de ministru pentru hotărîrea lui, și-a dat imediat demisia, în mod public, cu un tărăboi pe care numai tinerii care descopăr adevărurile fundamentale știu să-l facă. Mai tîrziu avea să-mi fie harnic și priceput colaborator la un ziar de atitudine, independent, pe care-l scoteam la Craiova. Translated: "Around 1934, after I had published a volume of verses in which I denounced the 'cruel and unjust order' and the Minister of Justice — who had boasted that he carried the keys to all the prisons in Romania — I was summoned to appear in court. The prosecutor who 'instructed' me, a young and genuine intellectual, greeted me, on my first appearance, by banging his fist on the table, by threatening me, by insulting me, as, in his words, an 'enemy of the people'. And that is exactly how he viewed me, in light of what and how he had been taught regarding the revolutionary struggle and its goals. [...] I then challenged him, on the spot, to a 'clarification' discussion, a discussion that — as proof that I had not been mistaken about him — he himself wanted us to continue in our subsequent meetings. The result: he considered me innocent and, being punished by the minister for his decision, he immediately resigned, publicly, with a fuss that only young people who discover fundamental truths know how to make. Later he would be my diligent and skillful collaborator on an independent opinion newspaper that I myself was publishing in Craiova."
... that GOAL included Bea Sprung among the 25 best wonderkids in women's football in 2023, or that she won three Swedish championships and a cup title as a teenager?
Source: NXGN 2023: The 25 best wonderkids in women's football [24]
(Hon lämnar Skåne bakom sig med tre SM-guld och en cuptitel i bagaget.
She leaves Skåne County behind with three Swedish championships and a cup title.[25]
ALT1: ... that GOAL included Bea Sprung among the 25 best wonderkids in women's football in 2023, or that she credits her competitive swimming background with aiding her development as a footballer?
Source: See first source for ALT0 hook
Vad har simningen gett dig?
– Disciplin skulle jag säga. Du måste pusha dig själv på ett annat sätt, inte riktigt som du gör på fotbollsplanen. Det är mer mängdträning. Men du måste pressa dig själv, och det tror jag har hjälpt mig.
What has swimming given you?
– I would say discipline. You have to push yourself in a different way, not quite like you do on the football pitch. It's a higher training volume. But you need to push yourself and I believe that has helped me.[26]
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Comment: Since this is my first DYK-nomination, any advise/feedback is appreciated.
Created by Chili Stampede (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
^Yuasa, Y. (November 1997). "[Synthesis of promin in Japan and global elimination of Hansen's disease]". Yakushigaku Zasshi. 117 (10–11): 957–62. doi:10.1248/yakushi1947.117.10-11_957. PMID9414603.
... that Palestinian author Tareq Baconi wrote policy reports on energy and water in the MENA region, a study of Hamas, and then a memoir on "queer identity, family history, and political awakening"?
Overall: Nice job on the article- will definitely be checking out the memoir! Article is new enough (created 4 Nov, nom 6 Nov), long enough (1860 B), QPC done, EW is 18.7% mostly because of a long quote about memoir- I would shorten and/or paraphrase some of it, since it's just describing the book's topics and the particular phrasing doesn't add a lot imo. NPR hook citation supports the Hamas study and queer identity memoir but not the water/energy policy reports - but that's cited in the article text. At 195 characters, the hook is within limits but does feel a bit wordy/listy to me. What do you think of this alternate:
... that Rachel Walker Revere bribed a British officer to secure a pass for her family to safely escape British-occupied Boston after her husband's "midnight ride"?
Source: "The next letters between Paul and Rachel discuss arrangements for getting the family out of besieged Boston. The British only allowed for people to leave with a pass, and passes were hard to come by....in her letter to Paul dated May 2, 1775, Rachel declares that "capt Irvin says he has not received any letter and I send by this 2 bottles beer and 1 wine for his servant."...clearly, the supply of food became of paramount concern within the city, which allowed Rachel to wield it as a bribe to obtain passes." Jenny Hale Pulsipher. "Rachel Walker Revere: A Revolutionary Woman." The Revere House Gazette, Winter 1997, pg. 6. There are also references to the event in Paul Revere and the World He Lived In by Esther Forbes, and A True Republican by Jayne Triber.
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Created by Isoxys (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
Article is in good shape and eligible. No evidence of copyvio, and the hook is interesting enough (I might link midnight ride though). The source quote seems to confirm the hook, but I'd need to know what this source actually is. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 04:24, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I like ALT0, surprising that any adaptation could happen so fast! One thing about the article itself - does [The New York Times described the series as "a cult hit" and The Verge calling it a "horror classic of the internet".] in the lede need in-line citations? I was under the impression that direct quotations were not covered under MOS:LEADCITE. Zzz plant (talk) 23:59, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1: ... that Armand Avril travelled in Africa in 1960 for a year, where he was inspired by Louis Pons to assemble "bottle caps, clothespins, glue, nails and empty tin cans"? [28]
Comment: an image of his art would be nice, but the only one we have has an impossible format for this purpose and doesn't match the style described.
Created by Jmanlucas (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 2160 past nominations.
... that Miho Karasawa's stage name True was influenced by her interest in anime being her "true" self? Source: [29] (──本当にやりたいこととして、アニメソングにたどりついたと。じゃあアーティスト名の“TRUE”というのは、ご自身の“本当の姿”みたいな意味合いなんですか？ TRUE そうですね。私が現在、アニメソングの歌詞を書けるのは、そういう一アニメファンの目線を持っているからだと思います。アニメソングの歌詞ってJ-POPと作り方が違いますし、作品が好きな人じゃないと作れないと思うんです。)
Comment: Second QPQ: Template:Did you know nominations/Lim Joo Hock. If the original hook is not considered interesting enough, I can expand the article further for further options. Hook suggestions are welcome. I am also the article creator, although the article was created back in 2015 and so this is being nominated as a 5x expansion.
5x expanded by Narutolovehinata5 (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 122 past nominations.
... that the main character of Nishino was deliberately designed to be ordinary-looking? Source: [30] (その当時からライトノベルの主人公は、「普通の高校生」や「平凡な容姿」といった表現が行われる一方、いざイラスト化されると、格好よくイケメンに描かれる作品が多いように感じていました。自分はそこに疑問を抱いておりまして、もしも本気でフツメンの主人公にしたら、物語はどのように転がっていくのだろうかと考えたことが、本作を書き始めたきっかけとなります。)
ALT1 ... that in contrast to other Japanese light novel protagonists, the main character of Nishino was deliberately designed to be ordinary-looking?
@Theleekycauldron: The additional context is probably needed here. The idea is that light novel protagonists are often said to be "plain-looking" or "ordinary", but look handsome when drawn or shown in anime adaptations. The idea for this one was that he actually would look "plain" or "ordinary". There is also the idea that the protagonist was deliberately designed/made to be ordinary, not that they just are. I'm not sure how to express either idea better in a hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:48, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Source: Page 97 of Biographies of a Reformation: Religious Change and Confessional Coexistence in Upper Lusatia, c. 1520-1635 by Martin Christ
ALT1: ... that Bartholomäus Scultetus tried to become the court cartographer of Ivan the Terrible? Source: Page 101 of Biographies of a Reformation: Religious Change and Confessional Coexistence in Upper Lusatia, c. 1520-1635 by Martin Christ
... that during the Yi Peng festival(pictured), releasing a sky lantern is a traditional offering to the Cūḷāmaṇi Cetiya, a heavenly stupa believed to enshrine a hair relic of the Buddha? Source: Thailanders, The. The Thailanders issue 9 (in Thai). Favori Media International Co., Ltd. p. 47.
User:TheBestHumanInSiberianFolklore, I have a few questions. One of them concerns the origin of the song. You wrote that it started as a poem, but the OpenDemocracy article says Morozov wrote it as a song. You also say a band member discovered it, but that's not clear to me at all, and that claim (which ends a paragraph) is unsourced. In other words, I'm confused (also) in the relationship between the song and the band--the song is not by the band VIA Kaskad, as the lead says, but by Morozov, unless Morozov is a member of the band, which he is not, judging from the "discover" phrase. Can you clear those things up before I go on? Drmies (talk) 22:39, 7 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
User:Drmies, the poem is by Morozov but the song by Kaskad. I had a source for this but someone keeps removing it. It is this article. My edits adding it have been reverted under the grounds that I need a factual source for the claim, but I see no reason why Sputnik is derpactated here. It does not talk about current events. The article cites an interview with Alexander Khaliov, the band's leader at the time. I see no reason why this claim is false and not considered factual. It's not from Sputnik's mouth, it's from Khaliov's. The quote in question (English translation): "'There were credible rumors that the USSR was leaving Afghanistan,' recalls Alexander Khalilov. 'You can't imagine how we longed to go home. Away from the dust, from the potatoes in three litre jars, and from the alcohol infused bread. And one day, I came across a poem, "We are Leaving," written by combat officer Igor Morozov. It took me three tries to set it to music, and the song became an anthem." (emphasis added).
User:TheBestHumanInSiberianFolklore, User:Amigao removed that for a reason. I am not going to judge that, not right now, but there's other issues. First of all, the OpenDemocracy source says "Valeri Vostrotin’s 345th Guards Independent Parachute Assault Regiment, which was guarding the pass, is said to have started every day with Morozov’s bitter song ‘We’re Leaving’." Second, the Braithwaite book, on p. 195, says explicitly that "We're Leaving" is one of his songs. I can't tell what the Atlantic article says. In short, we have two reliable sources that call it his song. Whatever the guy in the band says, given these two sources we have no option but to refer to it as his song. Maybe they changed the music, I don't know, and I don't care. The easy solution here is to rewrite the lead, which should be done anyway: it should reflect that Morozov started it either as a poem (your suggestion) or, and this is the solution I would propose, "We're leaving" is a song by Russian blah blah Morozov, later popularized by the band blah blah--along those lines. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 22:23, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
What about, like "The song was originally a poem, but its exact origin is unclear. Some sources say that Morozov was a member of the band, but an interview with the band's leader at the time says that he discovered the song." TheBestHumanInSiberianFolklore (talk) 22:54, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Improved to Good Article status by DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 38 past nominations.
Overall: Good work on this GA. Article meets all requirements. I removed one quote in the article, please feel free to revert if you disagree. On the first hook – could we possibly add context on how the storyline with his character's partner was a "switch [...] up" with the earlier one ("Last year, it was [...] Dillon trying to save him."), per the Digital Spy source? I feel like the flip in dynamic might be more interesting to general readers. Bridget(talk)20:45, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that the developers' mother recorded the voice of Maid Marian in Super Robin Hood?
Source: "Computer game – starring our mum". Trowbridge Star. Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England, United Kingdom. 26 February 1987
ALT1: ... that Super Robin Hood was the start of a regular partnership between the Oliver twins and Codemasters? Source: Wilkins, Chris; Kean, Roger (2016). "Part Two: Dizzy with Darlings". Let’s Go Dizzy (1 ed.). Kenilworth, Warwickshire, England, United Kingdom: Fusion Retro Books. pp. 54–59. ISBN 9780993131585.
ALT2: ... that the developers shared a single computer everyday for a month to program Super Robin Hood? Source: Wilkins, Chris; Kean, Roger (2016). "Part Two: Dizzy with Darlings". Let’s Go Dizzy (1 ed.). Kenilworth, Warwickshire, England, United Kingdom: Fusion Retro Books. pp. 54–59. ISBN 9780993131585.
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Comment: The print sources be found online at the developers' website.
A link to PDF and online versions of "Let's Go Dizzy: The Story of the Oliver Twins" book is near the bottom of the Our Story page: https://www.olivertwins.com/our-story
5x expanded by Guyinblack25 (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
... that at the end of his term, Indonesian ambassador to Libya Raudin Anwar proposed sending Indonesian nurses to Libyan hospitals, provided security conditions improved? Source: Santi, Natalia (21 November 2017). "Dubes RI: Indonesia Siap Kirim Perawat ke Libya" [Indonesian Ambassador: Indonesia Ready to Send Nurses to Libya]. CNN Indonesia (in Indonesian). Retrieved 9 November 2025. Kami sampaikan pihak Indonesia siap menerima tawaran bagi perawat Indonesia yang bekerja di rumah-rumah sakit di Libya dengan sejumlah persyaratan,” kata Dubes Raudin saat dihubungi CNN Indonesia lewat media sosial WhatsApp, Selasa (21/11). Syarat-syarat tersebut antara lain kondisi Libya telah aman, kontrak kerja yang jelas dengan mencantumkan jam kerja, gaji, akomodasi dan sebagainya. "We convey that Indonesia is ready to accept offers for Indonesian nurses to work in hospitals in Libya, subject to several conditions," Ambassador Raudin said when contacted by CNN Indonesia via WhatsApp on Tuesday (November 21). These conditions include a safe Libya, a clear employment contract outlining working hours, salary, accommodation, and so on."
Comment: I have an extremely strong preference for the first hook or a variation of it. That hook plays with the core concept of the book, which are entities that erase themselves from the memories of those who view them.
Created by ThadeusOfNazereth (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 12 past nominations.
Overall: @Gerda Arendt: Article already passed the sourcing requirements for ITN and an additional review shows no problems. Prose size was 1092 before expansion and 6062 after expansion. The hook is alright. I made a few copyedits to the page to break up the lede paragraph and fix some minor stuff throughout.
The "born Treasa Kennedy," part is unnecessary and removing it helps make the hook more digestible. The wording of the hook is odd as it reads as though she founded Focus Ireland to help the Immigration Council rather than that she founded the council. I think a better hook would be "... that the social work of Stanislaus Kennedy was praised by two presidents of Ireland?" Jon698 (talk) 17:39, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... that Mao Zedong encouraged General Zeng Zesheng(pictured) not to join the Chinese Communist Party, believing his non-Party status would help him engage more effectively with Taiwan and international community?
Checked out both hooks with the Chinese sources (Used Google to translate them), but the first hook is much more interesting as one of the new PLA officers who didn't have CCP membership at the time it was being created/established after the civil war. Personally would say this is fine (in good faith on my own) Ominae (talk) 03:48, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1: ... that Japanese photographer Ken Domon praised the Standing Statue of Kichijōten(pictured) as the "most perfect depiction of feminine beauty among all of the Buddhist images in Japan"? Source: https://www.nippon.com/en/japan-topics/b10930/"The photographer Domon Ken, who took countless pictures of Buddhist sculptures throughout his illustrious career, was particularly fond of this image of Kisshōten: “This is perhaps the most perfect depiction of feminine beauty among all the Buddhist images in Japan. The relatively small image has a charm and impact that, once seen, are never forgotten.” With good reason, this remarkable sculpture occupies a special position, and is revered as the “peerless beauty” of Japanese religious art."
Grateful Med Librarians, John Anderson sitting and Rosemary Woodsmall in 1986.
... that Grateful Med(librarians pictured), which was named after the band Grateful Dead, was used as the official interference for MEDLINE the between 1986 and 2001?
Comment: I wanted to highlight a lesser known government database with an interesting name. Before PubMed...it was Grateful Med – which was named after the band Grateful Dead.
Created by ConchDruid (talk) and Yoshiman6464 (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
This article looks very interesting but there are various unsourced statements and IMDb should not be used per WP:IMDB. Could you please fix this and then I will finish reviewing this? Earwig shows no problems so far and QPQ is not needed. Also, could the small paragraphs in the reception section please be merged? DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 07:58, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Blue lace agate slab from Ysterputs Mine, ǁKaras Region, Namibia
... that until recently, most blue lace agate(pictured) was sourced from a single mine in Namibia?
Source: [34]: p. 3 "For several decades small mines in southern Namibia have produced an attractive banded agate, mostly marketed as lapidary material. The major source has been a mine on Ysterputs (or sometimes spelled Ysterputz) farm, producing blue lace agate." p. 11 "Since 2017 the mine has been dormant and currently its future is unknown."
[35]: "For many years, virtually all Blue Lace Agate came from Farm 254, Ysterputs, Karasburg West, southern Namibia . . . Since 2017, no Blue Lace Agate has been excavated from the deposit on Farm 254, and visitor access is forbidden."
[36]: "The Blue Lace Agate mine exploited a hydrothermal vein deposit at Ysterputs in southern Namibia until 2017."
ALT1: ... that until 2017, most blue lace agate(pictured) was sourced from a single mine in Namibia? Source: same as above
ALT2: ... that most blue lace agate(pictured) originates from a single, now-defunct mine in Namibia? Source: same as above
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... that the Indian emperor Jahangir was so amazed by the emaciated condition of a dying nobleman, that he ordered the court artists to create a 'painting' of him?
Improved to Good Article status by Ominae (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 21 past nominations.
Comment: Nominating this again after ensuring that the article has a GA status. Also read up the archived posts on how to do a renomination. Hope it's correct. Ominae (talk) 04:20, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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@AirshipJungleman29 and Spookyaki: Approving ALT0 and ALT1. I can't access the source for ALT2 but I can approve that too if you'd like to provide the relevant quote. Epicgenius (talk) 13:57, 14 October 2025 (UTC)
Belatedly reopening this nom as I pulled it on the 22nd because of concerns about the hook as outlined in this discussion. The hook still needs some reworking, pinging nominator Spookyaki to alert them of the issue. Thanks, Gatoclass (talk) 11:18, 1 November 2025 (UTC)
Approving Alt1 only. QPQ is done. Article is new enough and long enough (barely). No copyright violations and other policy issues detected. Alt0 is vague to the point it could be challenged (ie president of where?/ national assembly of what country?) It also isn't all that interesting, with or without the clarity. Being "bored to death" with your job, even an elected political one, isn't all that unusual. Politicians are human too. Alt2 is also problematic, not only because of the original spin on the fact in the article (requiring original thinking/analysis) but also because it was a self reported fact that is qualified as such in the article but not in the hook. This too could end up at WP:ERRORS. That said, alt1 is interesting and is verifiable to the cited source. I could find no other challenge to this first claim anywhere. It works, and of the three is the best choice.4meter4 (talk) 22:19, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
@Jeromi Mikhael, 4meter4, Jolielover, and Narutolovehinata5: I've reopened this following the discussion at WT:DYK#Prep 6 (Nov 7). Thanks — Amakuru (talk) 15:21, 5 November 2025 (UTC)
Full review needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:01, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
on hold while a merge discussion is ongoing. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 00:23, 5 November 2025 (UTC)
Given that the merge discussion will take this beyond two months, there does not appear to be a path forward for the nomination at this time. If the article survives its merge discussion, it can be renominated for DYK if it is brought to GA status. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:18, 5 November 2025 (UTC)
Long enough. New enough. Reliable citations throughout. GA article. Copyright violation unlikely (7.4%) per Earwig. The hook is cited but too long/not on point. You should rewrite it so that Tropical Storm Pabuk is at the center of attention.
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Checked out both hooks with the Chinese sources (Used Google to translate them), but the first hook is much more interesting as one of the new PLA officers who didn't have CCP membership at the time it was being created/established after the civil war. Personally would say this is fine (in good faith on my own) Ominae (talk) 03:48, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
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