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Redirects for discussion (RfD) is the place where potentially problematic redirects are discussed. Items usually stay listed for a week or so, after which they are deleted, kept, or retargeted.
- If you want to replace an unprotected redirect with an article, do not list it here. Turning redirects into articles is wholly encouraged. Be bold!
- If you want to move a page but a redirect is in the way, do not list it here. For non-controversial cases, place a technical request; if a discussion is required, then start a requested move.
- If you think a redirect points to the wrong target article, this is a good place to discuss the proper target.
- Redirects should not be deleted just because they have no incoming links. Please do not use this as the only reason to delete a redirect. However, redirects that do have incoming links are sometimes deleted, so that is not a sufficient condition for keeping. (See § When to delete a redirect for more information.)
Please do not unilaterally rename or change the target of a redirect while it is under discussion. This adds unnecessary complication to the discussion for participants and closers.
Before listing a redirect for discussion
[edit]Please be aware of these general policies, which apply here as elsewhere:
- Wikipedia:Redirect – what redirects are, why they exist, and how they are used.
- Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion – which pages can be deleted without discussion; in particular the "General" and "Redirects" sections.
- Wikipedia:Deletion policy – how we delete things by consensus.
- Wikipedia:Guide to deletion – guidelines on discussion format and shorthand.
The guiding principles of RfD
[edit]- The purpose of a good redirect is to eliminate the possibility that readers will find themselves staring blankly at "Search results 1–10 out of 378" instead of the article they were looking for. If someone could plausibly enter the redirect's name when searching for the target article, it's a good redirect.
- Redirects are cheap. They take up little storage space and use very little bandwidth. It doesn't really hurt things if there are a few of them scattered around. On the flip side, deleting redirects is also cheap because recording the deletion takes up little storage space and uses very little bandwidth. There is no harm in deleting problematic redirects.
- If a good-faith RfD nomination proposes to delete a redirect and has no discussion after at least 7 days, the default result is delete.
- Redirects nominated in contravention of Wikipedia:Redirect will be speedily kept.
- RfD can also serve as a central discussion forum for debates about which page a redirect should target. In cases where retargeting the redirect could be considered controversial, it is advisable to leave a notice on the talk page of the redirect's current target page or the proposed target page to refer readers to the redirect's nomination to allow input and help form consensus for the redirect's target.
- Requests for deletion of redirects from one page's talk page to another's do not need to be listed here. Anyone can remove the redirect by blanking the page. The G6 criterion for speedy deletion may be appropriate.
- In discussions, always ask yourself whether or not a redirect would be helpful to the reader.
When to delete a redirect
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The major reasons why deletion of redirects is harmful are:
- a redirect may contain non-trivial edit history;
- if a redirect is reasonably old (or is the result of moving a page that has been there for quite some time), then it is possible that its deletion will break incoming links (such links coming from older revisions of Wikipedia pages, from edit summaries, from other Wikimedia projects or from elsewhere on the internet, do not show up in "What links here").
Therefore consider the deletion only of either harmful redirects or of recent ones.
Reasons for deleting
[edit]You might want to delete a redirect if one or more of the following conditions is met (but note also the exceptions listed below this list):
- The redirect page makes it unreasonably difficult for users to locate similarly named articles via the search engine. For example, if the user searches for "New Articles", and is redirected to a disambiguation page for "Articles" (itself a redirect to "Article"), it would take much longer to get to the newly added articles on Wikipedia.
- The redirect might cause confusion. For example, if "Adam B. Smith" was redirected to "Andrew B. Smith", because Andrew was accidentally called Adam in one source, this could cause confusion with the article on Adam Smith, so the redirect should be deleted.
- The redirect is offensive or abusive, such as redirecting "Joe Bloggs is a Loser" to "Joe Bloggs" (unless "Joe Bloggs is a Loser" is legitimately discussed in the article), or "Joe Bloggs" to "Loser". (Speedy deletion criterion G10 and G3 may apply.) See also § Neutrality of redirects.
- The redirect constitutes self-promotion or spam. (Speedy deletion criterion G11 may apply.)
- The redirect makes no sense, such as redirecting "Apple" to "Orange". (Speedy deletion criterion G1 may apply.)
- It is a cross-namespace redirect out of article space, such as one pointing into the User or Wikipedia namespace. The major exception to this rule are the pseudo-namespace shortcut redirects, which technically are in the main article space. Some long-standing cross-namespace redirects are also kept because of their long-standing history and potential usefulness. "MOS:" redirects, for example, were an exception to this rule until they became their own namespace in 2024. (Note also the existence of namespace aliases such as WP:. Speedy deletion criterion R2 may apply if the target namespace is something other than Category:, Template:, Wikipedia:, Help:, or Portal:.)
- If the redirect is broken, meaning it redirects to an article that does not exist, it can be immediately deleted under speedy deletion criterion G8. You should check that there is not an alternative place it could be appropriately redirected to first and that it has not become broken through vandalism.
- If the redirect is a novel or very obscure synonym for an article name that is not mentioned in the target, it is unlikely to be useful. In particular, redirects in a language other than English to a page whose subject is unrelated to that language (or a culture that speaks that language) should generally not be created. (Implausible typos or misnomers are candidates for speedy deletion criterion R3, if recently created.)
- If the target article needs to be moved to the redirect title, but the redirect has been edited before and has a history of its own, then the title needs to be freed up to make way for the move. If the move is uncontroversial, tag the redirect for G6 speedy deletion, or alternatively (with the
suppressredirect
user right; available to page movers and admins), perform a round-robin move. If not, take the article to Requested moves. - If the redirect could plausibly be expanded into an article, and the target article contains virtually no information on the subject.
- If the redirect ends in "(disambiguation)" but does not target a disambiguation page or a page performing a disambiguation-like function (such as a set index of articles). Speedy deletion criterion G14 may apply.
Reasons for not deleting
[edit]However, avoid deleting such redirects if:
- They have a potentially useful page history, or an edit history that should be kept to comply with the licensing requirements for a merge (see Wikipedia:Merge and delete). On the other hand, if the redirect was created by renaming a page with that name, and the page history just mentions the renaming, and for one of the reasons above you want to delete the page, copy the page history to the Talk page of the article it redirects to. The act of renaming is useful page history, and even more so if there has been discussion on the page name.
- They would aid accidental linking and make the creation of duplicate articles less likely, whether by redirecting a plural to a singular, by redirecting a frequent misspelling to a correct spelling, by redirecting a misnomer to a correct term, by redirecting to a synonym, etc. In other words, redirects with no incoming links are not candidates for deletion on those grounds because they are of benefit to the browsing user. Some extra vigilance by editors will be required to minimize the occurrence of those frequent misspellings in article text because the linkified misspellings will not appear as broken links; consider tagging the redirect with the {{R from misspelling}} template to assist editors in monitoring these misspellings.
- They aid searches on certain terms. For example, users who might see the "Keystone State" mentioned somewhere but do not know what that refers to will be able to find out at the Pennsylvania (target) article.
- Deleting redirects runs the risk of breaking incoming or internal links. For example, redirects resulting from page moves should not normally be deleted without good reason. Links that have existed for a significant length of time, including CamelCase links (e.g. WolVes) and old subpage links, should be left alone in case there are any existing links on external pages pointing to them. Please tag these with {{R from old history}}. See also Wikipedia:Link rot § Link rot on non-Wikimedia sites.
- Someone finds them useful. Hint: If someone says they find a redirect useful, they probably do. You might not find it useful—this is not because the other person is being untruthful, but because you browse Wikipedia in different ways. Evidence of usage can be gauged by using the wikishark or pageviews tool on the redirect to see the number of views it gets.
- The redirect is to a closely related word form, such as a plural form to a singular form.
Neutrality of redirects
[edit]Just as article titles using non-neutral language are permitted in some circumstances, so are such redirects. Because redirects are less visible to readers, more latitude is allowed in their names, therefore perceived lack of neutrality in redirect names is not a sufficient reason for their deletion. In most cases, non-neutral but verifiable redirects should point to neutrally titled articles about the subject of the term. Non-neutral redirects may be tagged with {{R from non-neutral name}}
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Non-neutral redirects are commonly created for three reasons:
- Articles that are created using non-neutral titles are routinely moved to a new neutral title, which leaves behind the old non-neutral title as a working redirect (e.g. Climategate → Climatic Research Unit email controversy).
- Articles created as POV forks may be deleted and replaced by a redirect pointing towards the article from which the fork originated (e.g. Barack Obama Muslim rumor → deleted and now redirected to Barack Obama religion conspiracy theories).
- The subject matter of articles may be represented by some sources outside Wikipedia in non-neutral terms. Such terms are generally avoided in Wikipedia article titles, per the words to avoid guidelines and the general neutral point of view policy. For instance the non-neutral expression "Attorneygate " is used to redirect to the neutrally titled 2006 dismissal of U.S. attorneys. The article in question has never used that title, but the redirect was created to provide an alternative means of reaching it because a number of press reports use the term.
The exceptions to this rule would be redirects that are not established terms and are unlikely to be useful, and therefore may be nominated for deletion, perhaps under deletion reason #3. However, if a redirect represents an established term that is used in multiple mainstream reliable sources, it should be kept even if non-neutral, as it will facilitate searches on such terms. Please keep in mind that RfD is not the place to resolve most editorial disputes.
Closing notes
[edit]- Details at Administrator instructions for RfD
Nominations should remain open, per policy, about a week before they are closed, unless they meet the general criteria for speedy deletion, the criteria for speedy deletion of a redirect, or are not valid redirect discussion requests (e.g. are actually move requests).
How to list a redirect for discussion
[edit]STEP I. | Tag the redirect(s).
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STEP II. | List the entry on RfD.
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STEP III. | Notify users.
It is generally considered good practice to notify the creator and main contributors of the redirect(s) that you nominate. may be placed on the creator/main contributors' user talk page to provide notice of the discussion. Please replace RedirectName with the name of the respective creator/main contributors' redirect and use an edit summary such as: Notice of redirect discussion at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion]]
Notices about the RfD discussion may also be left on relevant talk pages. |
- Please consider using What links here to locate other redirects that may be related to the one you are nominating. After going to the redirect target page and selecting "What links here" in the toolbox on the left side of your computer screen, select both "Hide transclusions" and "Hide links" filters to display the redirects to the redirect target page.
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Current list
[edit]كييف
[edit]I don't think we need an Arabic redirects for Kyiv, since Arabic is not a common language in Ukraine A1Cafel (talk) 02:56, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment didn't the Crimean Khanate use Arabic script, and thus, the Tatars of Ukraine would have a historical link to the script... -- 65.93.183.249 (talk) 03:43, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on the IP's argument?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Rusalkii (talk) 05:27, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
DVDactive
[edit]DVDactive is the name of a defunct website similar to DVD Talk or TVShowsOnDVD.com that featured news about upcoming DVD releases. (The current DVDactive.com is not the same site.) The DVD article is about DVD technology and doesn't mention the website DVDactive. Unless a suitable target for DVDactive exists, I propose that this redirect be deleted. — Paper Luigi T • C 03:53, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
Latin Spanish
[edit]- Latin Spanish → Spanish language in the Americas (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 June 3#Latin Portuguese closed as disambiguate. Would this be necessary for this? Web-julio (talk) 03:18, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- For instance, it could refer to Old Spanish#Orthography, Glosas Emilianenses, or the liturgical aljamiado. Web-julio (talk) 03:25, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
Planetballs
[edit]- Planetballs → Countryballs#Other countries (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned in target 🇺🇸Thegoofhere🇺🇸 (talk) 03:03, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
Hunter safety
[edit]Safety is barely mentioned at target, perhaps best to delete to encourage article creation, in line with the consensus at Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2025_July_2#Hunting_accident Mdewman6 (talk) 23:41, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Weak delete per nom Thepharoah17 (talk) 23:44, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:REDYES. Cursory google search shows that hunter safety courses are mandatory for getting a hunter's license. --Lenticel (talk) 00:15, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per above reasons. I do think this redirect could turn into an article in the future; although someone could theoretically add a small mention of safety into the existing article Justjourney (talk | contribs) 00:30, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
Typhoon 0801
[edit]- Typhoon 0801 → Typhoon Neoguri (2008) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Typhoon 0806 → Typhoon Fengshen (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Unlikely to be searched and used A1Cafel (talk) 15:28, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 23:20, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
Rich Ceraulo Ko
[edit]- Rich Ceraulo Ko → Tenet (film) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned in the target article. Non-notable actor with no other instances in any other article. — Trailblazer101🔥 (discuss · contribs) 23:19, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
Weak delete per nom. Thepharoah17 (talk) 23:24, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
Paris Black Friday
[edit]- Paris Black Friday → November 2015 Paris attacks (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Google search results do not indicate that this is the correct target. Thepharoah17 (talk) 21:13, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 23:08, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
Ulfcytel's land
[edit]- Ulfcytel's land → East Anglia (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
"Ulfcytel" is not mentioned at the target and without a mention that's confusing. It might be better to delete to enable Search to highlight Ulfcytel. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:15, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- It's not inherently confusing for older names to not be mentioned, but in this case, the name is sufficiently different and sufficiently old that it might be best to mention it. Ulfcytel says "Scandinavian sources give him the byname "snilling", meaning bold, and called East Anglia "Ulfkell's Land" after him" in the lead and "The contemporary Scandinavian court poet Sigvatr Þórðarson called East Anglia "Ulfkell's Land" after Ulfcytel, and he gave him the byname snilling, meaning valiant or bold" in the body of the article. There is an inline citation at the end of the second one. Why don't you copy a bit of that information and the source over to East Anglia, and then withdraw this nomination? WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:18, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 22:58, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
Bottle bomb
[edit]- Bottle bomb → Molotov cocktail (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Google search results do not indicate that this is the correct target. Thepharoah17 (talk) 07:45, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- Weak keep. My google results show that molotov cocktails and similar improvised weapons is one of the correct targets, the other being some sort of fishing weight that I can't find any relevant content on, making this unambiguous in practice. Thryduulf (talk) 10:23, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- Weak delete. The wording of the redirect makes it seem like it also could refer to Bottle rocket. Steel1943 (talk) 16:06, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- delete the dry ice pool bomb in a plastic bottle is not a Molotov -- 65.93.183.249 (talk) 03:28, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep and hatnote Dry ice bomb. Jay 💬 10:49, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 22:46, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
Fredarick Jackson
[edit]Not mentioned in target. "Jackson" is his legal surname, but I can't find any evidence that he's used "Fredarick". Searching for "Frederick Jackson" pulls up different people (Frederick Jackson Turner, Frederick J. Jackson). Rusalkii (talk) 23:12, 26 June 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to Frederick Jackson as a mispelling maybe. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:44, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom as unverified. Since Fredarick doesn't currently exist, a retargeting probably isn't justified. - Eureka Lott 20:33, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- Weak retarget per MPGuy2824 -- 65.93.183.249 (talk) 05:29, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to Frederick Jackson; it's a plausible misspelling, as people sometimes mix up unstressed vowels like that. No objection to outright deletion, however. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 18:23, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- Weak retarget per above drinks or coffee ᶻ 𝗓 𐰁 ₍ᐢ. .ᐢ₎ 15:31, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per Eureka Lott, as well as precedence of deleting redirects that are given name and/or surname misspellings. Steel1943 (talk) 16:35, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - recently created redirect which the creator thought is related to 50 Cent. If we cannot find a connection, there is no need for a retarget ATD to try and fit in as a misspelling per Eureka. Jay 💬 16:55, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. Don't know what the creator is up to, they changed the rapper's first name to "Fredarick" in the main article (reverted) [1] and did the same on the Simple English Wikipedia [2] (just reverted myself). All in all an implausible misspelling as far as I can see. JBchrch talk 20:14, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Weak delete For some reason, this user has had lots of their redirects deleted including many variations of Frederick. Thepharoah17 (talk) 20:36, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 22:28, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per Eureka Lott and Steel1943. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 23:47, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
Anti-China sentiment
[edit]- Anti-China sentiment → Anti-Chinese sentiment (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Retarget to Anti–People's Republic of China sentiment. While the two subjects overlap, China, the country, is a more specific referent, and the People's Republic of China is the primary topic for China. We have two articles to highlight the distinction between antipathy towards the country and its government versus antipathy towards the people and the culture. At the just-closed RM, "Anti-China sentiment" was one of several suggested article titles for Anti–People's Republic of China sentiment that did have some support but was not chosen. Note that Anti-China sentiment was previously moved to Sinophobia, which was then moved to the current title Anti-Chinese sentiment in 2020. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 22:14, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget per nom. I don't think this really needed an RFD. Thepharoah17 (talk) 22:21, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Seems obvious to me but given the move history and hatnotes on both articles I figured a lot of editors had blessed the status quo. That and the RM landing on "PRC" were enough to give me pause. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 22:38, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Disambiguate: Anti-China sentiment has existed for thousands of years. The PRC has only existed since 1949. If we want to assume that "Anti-China sentiment" is simply Anti-PRC sentiment, we should just rename the Anti–People's Republic of China sentiment article to the more WP:CONCISE name "Anti-China sentiment", and we just reached a consensus not to do that. — BarrelProof (talk) 00:54, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- The problem is that anti-China sentiment and anti-Chinese sentiment are often not mutually exclusive, in fact historically it was the other way around where antipathy towards China and Chinese people were intertwined. I'm personally ambivalent towards the move since I can see an argument for both sides. Qiushufang (talk) 01:45, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- Disambiguate: Per above I think equating China to the PRC is historically too broad. China existed before the PRC and the Qing dynasty and ROC were certainly both China and antipathy towards those polities also existed. Qiushufang (talk) 01:48, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
Disambiguation draft requested Thepharoah17 (talk) 02:02, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- Anti-China sentiment may refer to either of the following:
- Anti-Chinese sentiment, a dislike, hatred, hostility, or discrimination against Chinese people or Chinese culture
- Anti–People's Republic of China sentiment, a dislike of the People's Republic of China (PRC) as a nation, or opposition to its government, its social system, the ideology of the Chinese Communist Party, or the people of the nation under the PRC regime of 1949–present
- {{disambiguation}}
- — BarrelProof (talk) 05:24, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- Anti-China sentiment may refer to either of the following:
Mixy (TV programming block)
[edit]- Mixy (TV programming block) → The Ferals#After the Ferals (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
An AFD on this title resulted in a merge into its current target indicated about an Australian children's comedy TV series which has no bearing on it whatsoever apart from a few mentions. So, I'm listing it here for a discussion, thoughts? Worth still keeping this? Intrisit (talk) 21:51, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
Jack Wagner (director)
[edit]- Jack Wagner (director) → Yeah, But Still (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
The article doesn't describe Wagner as "director". I created Jack Wagner (podcaster) to replace this, and suggest it is deleted. Other Jack Wagners exist. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 21:13, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
PKMN B
[edit]- PKMN B → Pokémon Red, Blue, and Yellow (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
also refers to pokémon black. results gave me a mix of pokémon whose names start with b and miror b., which isn't related to this discussion, but is funny consarn (grave) (obituary) 20:41, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Thepharoah17 (talk) 20:44, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
Jeffroy
[edit]unrelated French surname. Thepharoah17 (talk) 20:26, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
GM (company)
[edit]- GM (company) → General Motors (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
That could also be General Mills so it’s too ambiguous. Thepharoah17 (talk) 20:21, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep as is. The abbreviation "GM" is very much associated with General Motors, and not very much with General Mills. General Motors have the GM ticker on the New York Stock Exchange, the gm.com domain, the @GM account on X. The New York Times often abbreviates General Motors as GM So does the WSJ. Many more examples. JBchrch talk 21:07, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep as is The company has been called "GM" for decades in mainstream press and reporting. What other organization is actually referred to as GM? Springee (talk) 21:41, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep.. The logo has been "GM" since at least 1938, and as noted above, the abbreviation "GM" is very strongly linked to General Motors. --Sable232 (talk) 21:44, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Either keep as is or DAB I agree with JBchrch, only that he/she should've added that a hatnote would/will suffice for this entry. Intrisit (talk) 22:10, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
team galaxy
[edit]- Team Galaxy (Pokémon) → Pokémon (video game series)#Recurring characters (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Team Galaxy (Pokemon) → Pokémon (video game series)#Recurring characters (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
insert an edit of the "NOT WHAT I'M CALLED" meme here, as they're actually called "team galactic" consarn (grave) (obituary) 19:37, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. I was actually confused when I first saw it and didn’t know what it was until I see your comment. Thepharoah17 (talk) 19:43, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
List of Characters & Pokemon
[edit]- List of Characters & Pokemon → Pokémon (video game series)#Recurring characters (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
hopelessly vague about what "characters" could mean that is distinct from pokémon without outright saying it refers to humans, which is partially because it doesn't? or maybe it does, it was originally an extremely crufty and confusing table. not worth restoring consarn (grave) (obituary) 19:28, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Weak delete per nom. Thepharoah17 (talk) 19:31, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- comment: adding to that, the title also doesn't really define what kind of characters it's listing, regardless of species and series, so it could just be a discriminate list of pretty much everyone ever (swimmer santiago fans rise up), plus a list of pokémon, so even on a fundamental level, this seems to violate wp:xy consarn (grave) (obituary) 19:47, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
Mexican tortilla
[edit]- Mexican tortilla → Corn tortilla (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Both the target and Flour tortilla originated from Mexico (though the current target was invented first) and the redirect does not seem to be an alternative name for the target. With that being said, delete or weak retarget to Tortilla. (I'm "weak" since I do not see this phrase being a common search term for Tortilla either, given the reader can read these articles to understand their origins; it's almost like saying "Philadelphia Philly cheesesteak sandwich", unnecessary word fluff and/or redundancy.) Steel1943 (talk) 19:20, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to Tortilla. It doesn't seem harmful or obviously redundant. Unlike Philly cheesesteak sandwiches, only people who already know about tortillas would clearly know they originated in Mexico, and the word has an entirely different meaning in Spain. — BarrelProof (talk) 01:09, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
Pascal Robinson-Foster
[edit]- Pascal Robinson-Foster → Bob Vylan (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Robinson-Foster → Bob Vylan (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Name of lead singer, not currently included in the article until consensus is reached on Talk:Bob Vylan about whether WP:BLPNAME and WP:BLPPRIVACY apply. Taffer😊💬(she/they) 17:18, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment when I created the redirects, the name was in the article. Sahaib (talk) 17:25, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete for clarity(my original message felt ambiguous). The redirects can be recreated later if consensus is ultimately to include his name. Taffer😊💬(she/they) 17:31, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
Horsemen of the Apocalypse (disambiguation)
[edit]- Horsemen of the Apocalypse (disambiguation) → Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse (disambiguation) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Since the target is a disambiguation page and "Horsemen of the Apocalypse" ≠ "Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse", this redirect is a WP:PTM for its target. In addition, the redirect "Horsemen of the Apocalypse " seems to be the only title match for the nominated redirect, but it's a redirect towards Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, the de facto primary topic of the nominated redirect's target page. The only other potential title match is Horseman of Apocalypse, but that can be resolved with a hatnote on Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. So ... delete. Steel1943 (talk) 16:04, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
EMS –(pharmaceuticals)
[edit]- EMS –(pharmaceuticals) → EMS (pharmaceuticals) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not sure if this is undoubtedly a WP:X3 candidate, but either way, the dash immediately followed by the parentheses makes this a highly unlikely search term. Steel1943 (talk) 14:49, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: clearly malformed and apparently the result of some article renaming phenomenon. — BarrelProof (talk) 01:13, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
SWEET JAMAICA (2CD SET)
[edit]- SWEET JAMAICA (2CD SET) → Sweet Jamaica (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
As a redirect, the search term is highly unlikely due to the odd disambiguation and the all caps. Steel1943 (talk) 14:43, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
Goran and Zoran Damjanović
[edit]- Goran and Zoran Damjanović → Bojnik, Serbia (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Zoran Damjanović → Bojnik, Serbia (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Goran Damjanović → Bojnik, Serbia (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
No idea why these redirect there, the original creator didn't leave any hints. Joy (talk) 14:27, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
KeepRetarget to Bojnik, Sarajevo this is why: [3] [4] [5] [6] Thepharoah17 (talk) 17:14, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
MediaTek Camera Application
[edit]- MediaTek Camera Application → MediaTek (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Nothing to do with cameras is mentioned on the target page. Rusalkii (talk) 05:03, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment This was soft deleted in 2021 when the nomination got no comments after being relisted multiple times. Thryduulf (talk) 09:04, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- Weak keep this is a {{R from file metadata}}, which are difficult to search for uses of but there is at least one file on Commons with this in the metadata - File:Wikimedians who love Africa in 2025 - (VIP).png. Thryduulf (talk) 09:04, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 14:25, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
N-(2-Hydroxypropyl)methacrylamide, N-(2-Hydroxypropyl) methacrylamide, HPMA, HPMA polymer, HPMA copolymer, polyHPMA, poly(HPMA), PHPMA, pHPMA, poly(N-(2-hydroxypropyl)methacrylamide)
[edit]- N-(2-Hydroxypropyl)methacrylamide, N-(2-Hydroxypropyl) methacrylamide, HPMA, HPMA polymer, HPMA copolymer, polyHPMA, poly(HPMA), PHPMA, pHPMA, poly(N-(2-hydroxypropyl)methacrylamide) → N-(2-Hydroxypropyl) methacrylamide (talk · links · history · [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2025-06-09&end=2025-07-08&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=N-(2-Hydroxypropyl)methacrylamide,_N-(2-Hydroxypropyl)_methacrylamide,_HPMA,_HPMA_polymer,_HPMA_copolymer,_polyHPMA,_poly(HPMA),_PHPMA,_pHPMA,_poly(N-(2-hydroxypropyl)methacrylamide)|stats]]) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not sure how likely of a search term this redirect is, considering it includes what seems to be almost 10 alternative names for the target all in one redirect instead of having them all listed individually as separate redirects. Steel1943 (talk) 14:22, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Here's the stats link since the title broke the {{Rfd2}} template somehow. Steel1943 (talk) 14:26, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete and send to WP:DAFT Thepharoah17 (talk) 16:43, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. Totally implausible, unwieldy string. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 18:41, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete this monstrosity that was created via AfC somehow, likely in error. Perhaps someone meant to request individual redirects for alternative names, and instead we got this? Mdewman6 (talk) 23:49, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete as unwieldy redirect per above. I can't even make an edit summary properly --Lenticel (talk) 00:20, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
Iran–United States war
[edit]- Iran–United States war → Iran–Israel war (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Untied Sates–Iran war → Iran–Israel war (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]- Iran-United States war → Iran–Israel war (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
United Sates–Iran war → Iran–Israel war (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Retarget to Iran–United States relations as ambiguous. It could refer to Operation Praying Mantis, 1953 Iranian coup d'état, or Iran hostage crisis. Also, one of them is misspelled/has a typo. LIrala (talk) 18:41, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- "Untied Sates" manages to have two typos in the first two words, delete this one as implausible. Weak keep for the others as this is (as far as I know) the largest direct armed confrontation between the two nations, although recentism might come into play in my assessment and I wouldn't be strongly against retargeting them to the more general article. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 19:41, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- Damn I put a type in one of those, my bad. Delete that and the other with spelling error. As for the other two, I think disambiguation could be useful here based on other examples, it's not quite accurate for relations, nor ideal for current target. CNC (talk) 21:07, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Untied shoelaces and Satay lest this ends up as some recurring Trout on Wikipedia. Borgenland (talk) 07:14, 26 June 2025 (UTC)
- Keep the two with correct spelling Iran–United States war and Iran-United States war but delete the other two. Lova Falk (talk) 10:22, 26 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete we don’t call Afghanistan war the Afghan-United Sates war, same with the Korean, Iraq, Vietnam. It’s about the region and where the conflict is fought. Doremon764 (talk) 01:30, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete all per nomination. Achmad Rachmani (talk) 07:45, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- There is United States strikes on Iranian nuclear sites now. LIrala (talk) 06:54, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: The two misspelled redirects have deleted. How about the remaining two now with United States strikes on Iranian nuclear sites to consider?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 00:39, 2 July 2025 (UTC) - retarget 1 and 3, delete 2 and 4. drinks or coffee ᶻ 𝗓 𐰁 ₍ᐢ. .ᐢ₎ 07:06, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- 2 and 4 were already deleted. 1isall (talk/contribs) 14:18, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Notified of this discussion at the creator and the current and proposed target pages.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 07:54, 9 July 2025 (UTC) - Delete 1 and 3 as well. The redirection to Iran–United States relations would be confusing per WP:RFD#DELETE#2—I expect that no editor linking Iran–United States war would be happy to be linking to Iran–United States relations, and no one clicking Iran–United States war would be happy being redirected to Iran–United States relations. I also oppose a disambiguation page: to the best of my knowledge, none of the possible pages that could be mentioned on such a disamb amount to an actual war, so I don't think it would be helpful. JBchrch talk 15:29, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
Teucer (statue
[edit]- Teucer (statue → Teucer (statue) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Unlikely redirect due to the missing parenthesis. Utopes (talk / cont) 01:14, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- delete per nom. drinks or coffee ᶻ 𝗓 𐰁 ₍ᐢ. .ᐢ₎ choose only one... 06:11, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete as malformed dabifier --Lenticel (talk) 00:20, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
Star Wars (radio series
[edit]- Star Wars (radio series → Star Wars (radio series) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Unlikely redirect due to the missing parenthesis. Utopes (talk / cont) 01:09, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- delete per nom. drinks or coffee ᶻ 𝗓 𐰁 ₍ᐢ. .ᐢ₎ choose only one... 06:10, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Graham87 (talk) 14:11, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete as malformed dabifier --Lenticel (talk) 00:21, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: the redirect's creator offered an explanation about it on their talk page. We don't usually create redirects due to external websites unless they use a relatively common search term. Graham87 (talk) 03:52, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
K-pop (Travis Scott, Bad Bunny, and the Weeknd song
[edit]- K-pop (Travis Scott, Bad Bunny, and the Weeknd song → K-pop (Travis Scott, Bad Bunny and the Weeknd song) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Unlikely redirect due to the missing parenthesis. Utopes (talk / cont) 01:07, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- delete per nom. drinks or coffee ᶻ 𝗓 𐰁 ₍ᐢ. .ᐢ₎ choose only one... 06:10, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete as malformed dabifier --Lenticel (talk) 00:22, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
Dagger (mark
[edit]- Dagger (mark → Dagger (mark) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Missing closing parenthesis makes this an unlikely redirect and sets a false expectation that we have similar redirects. Our software recommends the correct title anyway when typing everything but the last parenthesis. Utopes (talk / cont) 01:05, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- delete per nom. drinks or coffee ᶻ 𝗓 𐰁 ₍ᐢ. .ᐢ₎ choose only one... 06:10, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete as malformed dabifier --Lenticel (talk) 00:23, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
South Korean invasion of Vietnam
[edit]- South Korean invasion of Vietnam → South Korea in the Vietnam War (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Factually incorrect redirect. Thepharoah17 (talk) 00:23, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 15:39, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
Blue licorice
[edit]- Blue licorice → Agastache rugosa (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Blue Licorice → Agastache rugosa (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Vernacular name not mentioned at the target. There's also literal blue liquorice, but I was actually looking for the ice cream flavour. The only mention of "blue licorice" of any type is a Simpsons episode, which is not a good target. Cremastra (talk) 21:04, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete I created the lowercase one; I was trying to create redirects conforming to Wikipedia's preferred capitalization form when corresponding redirects with other capitalizations already existed. I think 'Blue Licorice' is a cultivar; there are plenty of Google results for nurseries selling seeds when I search for "blue licorice"+Agastache, but some of them say the species is Agastache foeniculum rather than A. rugosum. Delete as cultivars do not have the presumption of notability that species do. Plantdrew (talk) 21:48, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
Clavin (supplement)
[edit]- Clavin (supplement) → Devil in the arts and popular culture#Advertising (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
No longer mentioned at target. Cremastra (talk) 22:14, 26 June 2025 (UTC)
- Comment the target page has been cut down immensely since this version in January, by a now-blocked user (though I do not believe their block had anything to do with this or similar behaviour) Rusalkii (talk) 05:02, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- The subject is encyclopedic as per that version if the Czech parliament had to get involved to pass a legislation. But unlike other European countries, I don't see a Advertising in the Czech Republic article where this could have been added. Jay 💬 09:48, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Tavix (talk) 19:26, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
Myke
[edit]The name Myke dosn't only refer to "Myke Towers" and I think it should be replaced with a name list. Best wishes, Macaw*! 19:04, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Then be WP:BOLD and do it. Thepharoah17 (talk) 19:14, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- I will do that tomorrow. Sorry I'm not logged in. My email and wikipedia have locked me out from being on a public wifi location. 70.97.238.124 (talk) 00:46, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Close as already converted as a dab --Lenticel (talk) 00:31, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
Israeli strikes on Iran
[edit]- Israeli strikes on Iran → 2024 Israeli strikes on Iran (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Iranian strikes against Israel → 2024 Iranian strikes against Israel (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
dabify or move both target pages here, including June 2025 Israeli strikes on Iran or June 2025 Iranian strikes on Israel, accordingly. Ninixed (talk) 22:17, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 14:23, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- Close discussion. Unclear what the nominator wants due to their nomination reading like a WP:TRAINWRECK. No opposition to this either being renominated or the nomination statement clarified. Steel1943 (talk) 17:06, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Ninixed: please could you clarify what your desired action is. Thryduulf (talk) 23:56, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- Comment Israeli strikes on Iran should redirect to a disambiguation page. *:إيان (talk) 00:00, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- It shouldn't be a redirect. it should be its own disambiguation page, either moved from the target page (page swap) or redirecting the target page to this new disambiguation. Ninixed (talk) 04:19, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- Disambiguate / support moves. Disambiguation is appropriate. There is no need for separate disambiguation pages with and without the "2024"; there should just be disambiguation pages without the "2024". Adumbrativus (talk) 02:01, 26 June 2025 (UTC)
Disambiguation draft requested(done) * Pppery * it has begun... 17:59, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Tavix (talk) 18:33, 8 July 2025 (UTC)- The only articles we have on Israeli strikes on Iran are listed at the 2024 Israeli strikes on Iran DAB page. Ditto for the Iranian strikes. What the nom *seems* to be suggesting is that we move those two DAB pages to these titles; Adumbrativus seems to endorse this action. If this is what is being suggested, I don't see why we're at RfD. WP:RM would appear to be the correct venue to suggest such an action. We also don't really need a DAB draft I think, so I'll mark the template as "done" to remove it from the category. Cremastra (talk) 21:12, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
Zitti e buoni (song)
[edit]- Zitti e buoni (song) → Zitti e buoni (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Amar pelos dois (song) → Amar pelos dois (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Rise Like a Phoenix (song) → Rise Like a Phoenix (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Only Teardrops (song) → Only Teardrops (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Hard Rock Hallelujah (song) → Hard Rock Hallelujah (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- My Number One (song) → My Number One (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Everyway That I Can (song) → Everyway That I Can (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Fly on the Wings of Love (song) → Fly on the Wings of Love (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
While unnecessary disambiguation redirects are common, these were created just for the sole purpose of being an unnecessary disambiguator. I don't believe they serve any real purpose per WP:RFD#DELETE, since there is no real page history to protect and there are no links to these redirects. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 16:50, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. Agree. These were redirects that appear to have been created due to a misunderstanding of what disambiguators are used for. Grk1011 (talk) 23:56, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
Afghanistan in the Eurovision Song Contest
[edit]- Afghanistan in the Eurovision Song Contest → List of countries in the Eurovision Song Contest (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Argentina in the Eurovision Song Contest → List of countries in the Eurovision Song Contest (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Aruba in the Eurovision Song Contest → List of countries in the Eurovision Song Contest (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Brazil in the Eurovision Song Contest → List of countries in the Eurovision Song Contest (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Cape Verde in the Eurovision Song Contest → List of countries in the Eurovision Song Contest (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Chile in the Eurovision Song Contest → List of countries in the Eurovision Song Contest (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Colombia in the Eurovision Song Contest → List of countries in the Eurovision Song Contest (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Costa Rica in the Eurovision Song Contest → List of countries in the Eurovision Song Contest (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Cuba in the Eurovision Song Contest → List of countries in the Eurovision Song Contest (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Curaçao in the Eurovision Song Contest → List of countries in the Eurovision Song Contest (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Ethiopia in the Eurovision Song Contest → List of countries in the Eurovision Song Contest (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Guinea-Bissau in the Eurovision Song Contest → List of countries in the Eurovision Song Contest (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Hong Kong in the Eurovision Song Contest → List of countries in the Eurovision Song Contest (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- India at the Eurovision Song Contest → List of countries in the Eurovision Song Contest (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Jamaica in the Eurovision Song Contest → List of countries in the Eurovision Song Contest (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Kenya in the Eurovision Song Contest → List of countries in the Eurovision Song Contest (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Malaysia in the Eurovision Song Contest → List of countries in the Eurovision Song Contest (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Mauritania in the Eurovision Song Contest → List of countries in the Eurovision Song Contest (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Mauritius in the Eurovision Song Contest → List of countries in the Eurovision Song Contest (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Mexico in the Eurovision Song Contest → List of countries in the Eurovision Song Contest (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Mozambique in the Eurovision Song Contest → List of countries in the Eurovision Song Contest (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Panama in the Eurovision Song Contest → List of countries in the Eurovision Song Contest (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Peru in the Eurovision Song Contest → List of countries in the Eurovision Song Contest (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Philippines in the Eurovision Song Contest → List of countries in the Eurovision Song Contest (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Sierra Leone in the Eurovision Song Contest → List of countries in the Eurovision Song Contest (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- South Africa in the Eurovision Song Contest → List of countries in the Eurovision Song Contest (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- South Korea in the Eurovision Song Contest → List of countries in the Eurovision Song Contest (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Suriname in the Eurovision Song Contest → List of countries in the Eurovision Song Contest (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Taiwan in the Eurovision Song Contest → List of countries in the Eurovision Song Contest (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Thailand in the Eurovision Song Contest → List of countries in the Eurovision Song Contest (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Trinidad and Tobago in the Eurovision Song Contest → List of countries in the Eurovision Song Contest (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Uganda in the Eurovision Song Contest → List of countries in the Eurovision Song Contest (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- United Arab Emirates in the Eurovision Song Contest → List of countries in the Eurovision Song Contest (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Zaire in the Eurovision Song Contest → List of countries in the Eurovision Song Contest (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Bundle nomination for a bunch of redirects created for various countries/territories and "in the Eurovision Song Contest". In all cases it links to a section within a list article where said countries are listed in a table of broadcasts by non-participating countries. None of these countries are eligible to compete in the Eurovision Song Contest and all are located outside of the European Broadcasting Area (a key prerequisite to participation). There is no real use to continuing to host these redirects, as they do not constitute a useful search term given the lack of any participation history of the contest within these countries, there is no sizeable information on these countries at the target article bar brief mentions of possible previous broadcasts, and in the grand scheme of things at the present moment it makes no sense to consider that any of these countries could participate in a future edition of the contest. Requesting deletion of all redirects. Linked to related discussion Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 July 1#India in the Eurovision Song Contest Sims2aholic8 (talk) 16:38, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. These are extremely unlikely search terms for countries that cannot actually do what their descriptive titles say. It appears that many of these were created just because the show played on tv a handful of times in the respective countries. Grk1011 (talk) 23:54, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
Starmer's leadership
[edit]- Starmer's leadership → Keir Starmer#Leader of the Opposition (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This would seem to want to target an article or section of Starmer's leadership of the Labour party, not just as leader of the Opposition. Cremastra (talk) 15:56, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
2005 Brussels NATO summit
[edit]- 2005 Brussels NATO summit → NATO summit (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Per Wikipedia:RETURNTORED, the only article namespace incoming link is also the target Dajasj (talk) 21:12, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on the page history?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 14:26, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Restore. The author wants an article on the subject which we have in the history. Furthermore, the previous summit is a Good Article demonstrating the quality of work that is possible. -- Tavix (talk) 19:31, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
Second Saudi–Yemeni War
[edit]- Second Saudi–Yemeni War → Houthi–Saudi Arabian conflict (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
no source calls it that 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 08:08, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Thepharoah17 (talk) 08:28, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete I agree. No source calls it that. Plus it's misleading. OKMG-1200 (talk) 10:51, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- delete per above. drinks or coffee ᶻ 𝗓 𐰁 ₍ᐢ. .ᐢ₎ 12:48, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- This redirect was left over from a page move back in 2020. It's possible that it would break links on other websites if we delete the redirect. (t · c) buidhe 12:51, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
Battles involving the Jat people
[edit]- Battles involving the Jat people → Jat Regiment (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- List of Jat Wars → Jat Regiment (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Deleted here Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of battles involving Jats (a WP:CASTE milhist cruft listicle). This target then adduced has nothing to do with the present article which is a modern regiment of the Indian Army. Gotitbro (talk) 07:08, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
Westlake, Washington
[edit]- Westlake, Washington → Moses Lake, Washington (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
No mention in article Isla🏳️⚧ 00:27, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to Westlake, Seattle, the only place in Washington listed at the Westlake disambiguation page. Thryduulf (talk) 11:38, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- Comment It appears in GNIS as the only Westlake in Washington and it's approximately in the location of Moses Lake, but there isn't a mention of it in the article and I can't find an RS to add a mention. Casablanca 🪨(T) 14:54, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- I came across that as well. I might take a crack at what my uni library has to see if I can find an RS. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 17:50, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Casablanca Rock: I found a mention of Westlake in a toponymic dictionary.[Westlake 1] The entry is very brief and doesn't indicate if this refers to a town or simply a geographic expression. So I'm not sure whether a mention is worth adding. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 18:44, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Presidentman, thanks for doing all that leg work! I'll defer to your judgment, so this is probably best not pointing to its current target. Thryduulf's suggestion should work fine then. Casablanca 🪨(T) 14:22, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Casablanca Rock: I found a mention of Westlake in a toponymic dictionary.[Westlake 1] The entry is very brief and doesn't indicate if this refers to a town or simply a geographic expression. So I'm not sure whether a mention is worth adding. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 18:44, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- I came across that as well. I might take a crack at what my uni library has to see if I can find an RS. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 17:50, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- ^ Phillips, James W. (1971). Washington State Place Names. Seattle: University of Washington Press. p. 157.
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting per Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2025 June 28 following a previous closure of "retarget to Westlake, Seattle".
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 06:32, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
Retarget to Westlake#United States.I will add it to the list. Westlake is mentioned in Moses Lake, Washington, with several references (may have been added after this discussion started). Westlake, Seattle is almost certainly the more well known, but Westlake, Washington is an unlikely way to refer to a neighborhood. Westlake Center is a well-known shopping center in the state and though also unlikely to be labelled Westlake, Washington, but when I Google it I do get hits for the neighborhood, the shopping center, and the park.It's sufficiently ambiguous that it should be DAB'd.--MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 14:04, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- KEEP as first choice. It is the only location actually called "Westlake, Washington" and is the only usage currently in article space. Second choice is retarget to Westlake#United States but absolutely not to the neighborhood in Seattle, which isn't even the best-known "Westlake" in Seattle!. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 22:03, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
Retarget to Westlake, Seattle which is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for places called Westlake in the state. Westlake, Washington seems like a reasonable search term for the neighborhood. Add a hatnote link to Moses Lake to assist readers looking for the town annexed by Moses Lake. Frank Anchor 14:34, 8 July 2025 (UTC)- Changed to keep per the discussion cited below, which I was unaware (thank you Myceteaet for bringing this to my attention). A hatnote should be added for the neighborhood in Seattle as Westlake, Washington is a reasonable search term for that as well. Frank Anchor 03:24, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not so sure of this. I've started a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Seattle#Is Westlake, Seattle the primary topic for "Westlake, Seattle"? regarding this and whether the neighborhood is even the primary topic for Westlake, Seattle. This may require further disambiguation. There are several locations in Seattle named "Westlake", mostly located downtown and not in the neighborhood that shares the name. The prior format for the Washington entries at Westlake#United States was incomplete and the Seattle entries, in particular, were misleading. I have edited the DAB page to correct this. The former town that has been annexed by Moses Lake, Washington is the only place that would normally be called Westlake, Washington—the form Neighborhood, State is unheard of—and that is the only referent used currently in article space. Folks reading about municipalities and unincorporated communities in Washington would be astonished to land at an article about a neighborhood in the state's largest city. It should either be kept or retargeted to the DAB. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 21:49, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep as a redirect to Moses Lake, Washington. The only incorporated place in Washington is now part of Moses Lake. A person searching for the Seattle neighborhood would more likely omit the state than the city, and it is not the primary use in historical references (which usually point to the incorporated place by default). SounderBruce 17:13, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to Westlake#United States. The locations in Seattle would be more well-known over an obscure former municipality. That said, Westlake in Seattle may have various meanings depending on context. As they're all listed at the disambiguation, that'd be the most helpful target for searchers of any Westlakes in Washington. -- Tavix (talk) 03:47, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
Wikilinks
[edit]- Wikilinks → Hyperlink#Wikis (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Wikilink → Help:Link#Wikilinks (internal links) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
These ideally should have the same target but which one is better, I can’t decide. Thepharoah17 (talk) 04:54, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- target hyperlink WP:XNR to non-reader content should be removed -- 65.93.183.181 (talk) 06:55, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- I understand avoiding XNR links, but hyperlink is too broad. Wikilink is used in
{{R from shortcut}}
with clear intention. Of course that could be edited with a piped link if needed. I prefer to delete both or retargetWikilinksto Help:Link#Wikilinks (internal links) if this is an allowable exceptionboth to the same place. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 14:22, 8 July 2025 (UTC)- The help page is wrong though. If you were using UseModWiki, it wouldn't be square brackets to create a wikilink.Wiki software has limited information on links in wikis -- 65.93.183.181 (talk) 17:36, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- I don't have a good handle on this so won't make a specific recommendation but, if not deleted, these should both point to the same place, wherever that is, per nom. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 17:55, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- The help page is wrong though. If you were using UseModWiki, it wouldn't be square brackets to create a wikilink.Wiki software has limited information on links in wikis -- 65.93.183.181 (talk) 17:36, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget both to Wiki#Linking to and naming pages, which has more details than hyperlink and avoids a WP:CNR. - Eureka Lott 19:48, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment - a mainspace target, likely the same one for both, is much preferred. Where in particular, though, is another question. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 22:25, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
Template:R semi-protected
[edit]- Template:R semi-protected → Template:R protected/semi (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Delete, as the target page is not supposed to be called directly, either {{redirect category shell}} or {{r protected}} should be used. Retargeting to {{r protected}} doesn't make sense either as that rcat automatically determines the protection level, and this implies otherwise. ~ Eejit43 (talk) 19:51, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
- Keep or retarget to Template:R protected per 86.23.87.130. Helpful as a search term. Steel1943 (talk) 23:22, 17 June 2025 (UTC)
- This may be helpful as a search term, but that doesn't outweigh the fact that this should never be used. I should also mention that this was previously deleted (technically not kept after a move) following a TfD. ~ Eejit43 (talk) 02:53, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- Your concern can be resolved with a WP:BOTREQ if necessary to bypass incoming redirects. Redirects are primarily utilized as search terms, and one cannot expect readers to know all the "secret handshakes" of titling conventions we use in various namespaces. Steel1943 (talk) 14:39, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- Stance updated, updates in italics. Steel1943 (talk) 16:15, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- This may be helpful as a search term, but that doesn't outweigh the fact that this should never be used. I should also mention that this was previously deleted (technically not kept after a move) following a TfD. ~ Eejit43 (talk) 02:53, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete or Retarget {{R protected}}. I'm going to disagree that this is helpful as a search term as it stands. Sending people looking for a template to a "behind the scenes"/"core" template that is not actually supposed to be used and where the only documentation is "you're in the wrong place, go look somewhere else" does not strike me as a useful result. Retargeting to {{R protected}} seems like a reasonable option to me, that way any attempts at using this template will actually work, and I don't agree with the nom that it wouldn't make sense. All the protection padlock templates (e.g. {{pp-semi}}) are redirects to {{Protection padlock}}, which automatically detects the protection level. 86.23.87.130 12:45, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to {{R protected}} per the IP. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:01, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. It's written as "semi-protected", which is how the protection term is spelled. Definitely useful for those who try to look for the template. 1isall (talk/contribs) 17:13, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Comment I TfMed R protected for merging into {{Rcat shell}}. 174.138.212.166 (talk) 19:39, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- (nominator comment) I was unaware there is precedent for pages like {{pp-semi}}, in which case I am more than happy to retarget this to {{R protected}} per 86.23.87.130. I still hold my belief that keeping this current redirect is not helpful, as it cannot handle cases where protection levels are changed. ~ Eejit43 (talk) 02:43, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- Keep and fix the calls. The titles are not interchangeable and thus instead the redirects using this template should be fixed rather than this template redirect retargeted. Aasim (話す) 02:57, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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1930 BD
[edit]This is a retroactive provisional designation, but it's not the correct one; MPC and JPL both state 1930 BM is Pluto's provisional designation. -insert valid name here- (talk) 02:32, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment do you know what "1930 BD" represents? Presumably it should exist, since "M" is allocated after "D". It should be the 4th asteroid discovered in the second half of January 1930. -- 65.93.183.181 (talk) 03:21, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- According to the Minor Planet Center, 1930 BD refers to an object sighted twice by the Heidelberg-Königstuhl State Observatory on January 26, 1930. -insert valid name here- (talk) 04:59, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete as 1930 BM appears to be correct. -- Kheider (talk) 18:09, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
Child feeding
[edit]No mentions of "feeding" in the target article. 2A0E:1D47:9085:D200:CD12:8E54:A5EE:3740 (talk) 00:02, 8 July 2025 (UTC) 2A0E:1D47:9085:D200:CD12:8E54:A5EE:3740 (talk) 00:02, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. Bizarrely, this redirect appears in two articles as piped links children's food, in White chocolate and Types of chocolate. "Child feeding" is an odd phrase and too vague to identify a better target. (I'm removing the links from the chocolate articles as unnecessary.) --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 00:39, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Myceteae, I added these links. We have a page for infant feeding, but no page for generally child feeding, covering childhood nutrition, culture (e.g. children's menu's in restaurants) and preferences (bland food, picky eating). White chocolate is obviously one example of food associated with children in some cultures. I think it is a reasonable redlink, and am looking at writing such an article in the future, although I'm open to a better name. Rollinginhisgrave (talk | contributions) 00:59, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- I think it's at least a borderline case of MOS:OVERLINK but that's beyond the scope of this discussion and I won't object if you revert my edits at the chocolate pages. I appreciate the explanation. "Child feeding" strikes me as odd but "infant feeding" does not. I don't have a better suggestion and perhaps Child feeding is suitable. I agree it would be better as a red link for now and would still delete the current redirect. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 01:16, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Myceteae, I added these links. We have a page for infant feeding, but no page for generally child feeding, covering childhood nutrition, culture (e.g. children's menu's in restaurants) and preferences (bland food, picky eating). White chocolate is obviously one example of food associated with children in some cultures. I think it is a reasonable redlink, and am looking at writing such an article in the future, although I'm open to a better name. Rollinginhisgrave (talk | contributions) 00:59, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. Poor target. Background: this redirect was created as part of a broader effort to remove redlinks from white chocolate, using the edit description Less red links against the guidance at WP:REDLINK. Rollinginhisgrave (talk | contributions) 01:13, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
Comment: I notified the target page of this listing. Thepharoah17 (talk) 05:12, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- delete per above. drinks or coffee ᶻ 𝗓 𐰁 ₍ᐢ. .ᐢ₎ 14:14, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
Avant Prarie, Texas
[edit]- Avant Prarie, Texas → Dew, Texas (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Its misspelled. Even if spelled correctly, it probably wouldn’t receive views. Roast (talk) 23:38, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator comment: “any views” is hyperbolic, but it still gets next to nothing (2 in past 90 days). Roast (talk) 23:40, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
Comment: I see I created the redir in 2007, but don't remember anything about it. Possibly from some typo? No particular opinion about it; no objection to deletion if it isn't of any use. -- Infrogmation (talk) 00:00, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Thepharoah17 (talk) 00:03, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
Delete per nom and creator. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 01:28, 8 July 2025 (UTC)- Weak keep as a typo by omission of a single character, a common form of typo. Avant Prairie, Texas would be the correctly spelled form, and Avant Prairie the base term; either of which this redirect could be displaced to as a {{R from former name}} fpr the current target -- 65.93.183.181 (talk) 03:24, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per IP. I didn't realize Avant Prairie was a former name for the place. (My bad for not reading the article more closely.) Prarie is a redirect to the correct spelling so we've established that this misspelling is plausible. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 14:29, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
Template:ChartDisplay
[edit]- Template:ChartDisplay → Template:Chart (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
I created this as a temporary placeholder before Template:Chart was deleted. Now that that is in use, this should be removed as it is rather clunky and non-standard across wikis (for example the German wikipedia also has de:Template:Chart, but not de:Template:ChartDisplay). GalStar (talk) (contribs) 21:47, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: Please see related discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 June 7#Template:Chart. Steel1943 (talk) 22:02, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
"Common tiger beetle (2)" & "Common tiger beetle"
[edit]- Common tiger beetle (2) → Cicindela (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Common tiger beetle → Neocicindela tuberculata (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
It is unclear what "(2)" refers to regarding the target article's subject. However, Common tiger beetle is a redirect towards a different target: Neocicindela tuberculata. Steel1943 (talk) 21:38, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator comment: This nomination originally listed only Common tiger beetle (2) listed, then I added Common tiger beetle afterwards. For what it's worth, the targets of both redirects seems to be a valid target for Common tiger beetle, and I'm not sure which is better. Should a disambiguation page be created? Either way, obviously delete Common tiger beetle (2) as a unclear and unlikely search term. Steel1943 (talk) 21:45, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Maybe '(2)' was a cute way of identifying this as the/another common tiger beetle? --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 01:02, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- I posted notices at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Insects, which appears pretty active, and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Beetles. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 00:54, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Disambiguate the base term, Delete "(2)" -- 65.93.183.181 (talk) 03:26, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete "Common tiger beetle (2)", obviously. The rest doesn't need a !vote here.--Srleffler (talk) 03:52, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- DAB Common tiger beetle and delete (2). --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 16:58, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Common tiger beetle (2), but no need for a DAB. Point Common tiger beetle → Cicindela instead. Someone can correct me if they do find a decent source, but as far as I could find there aren't any reliable sources saying Neocicindela tuberculata is called the common tiger beetle. It appears to be a WP:CIRCULAR reference in the websites that do use it, which mirror Wikipedia. This has been present in the article unsourced since its start in 2007. Common tiger beetle is not used extensively in sources overall, but since redirects are cheap and there is at least a source, Cincindela is an ok target for now. KoA (talk) 01:14, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- The common names for N. tuberculata are listed in the single source that was provided when the article was created: [7]. Plantdrew (talk) 14:56, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Ah, that makes things a bit more complicated then. When I tried searching for those common names, I couldn't really find other significant sources using those names for that species. If anything, it looks like those names like pennydoctor, etc. are generic for other tiger beetles, but that's no super clear either. I'm kind of iffy on relying on one source in this kind of situation though, so maybe delete both common tiger beetle redirects without wider usage?
- It also looks like the Neocicindela is a subgenus of Cicindela, so being the first tiger beetle described in New Zealand could have meant it was called a type of common tiger beetle in that context rather than the common tiger beetle (same for other common names listed in the source you mention). That's just the sense I get from context though, so hard to use as concrete justification. With the nomenclature though, it still would make more sense to land people at Cicindela first, and if there's support for saying it's definitely a common name used for the species itself and not others, then maybe a hatnote or natural DAB in the Cicindela article linking to the species article? KoA (talk) 17:43, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- The common names for N. tuberculata are listed in the single source that was provided when the article was created: [7]. Plantdrew (talk) 14:56, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
GRiDi
[edit]This GRiDi clade was proposed as a sub-clade of CRuMs in a preprint article, but it's not in the final published article. So this redirect should be deleted. Jako96 (talk) 20:13, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Anyone reading such preprints will have no trouble finding CRuMs. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 00:58, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
Arrowroot biscuit
[edit]- Arrowroot biscuit → Uraro (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Arrowroot biscuits → Arrowroot (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
there is also an australian biscuit called a "milk arrowroot biscuit" that, based off my research, looks to be different from uraro User:Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 11:33, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
- Hmm. And Arrowroot biscuits redirects to Arrowroot, so we should sort that out too. There are mentions of the Australian type at Arnott's Group, Cecil Augustus Motteram, William Arnott (biscuit manufacturer). Biscuit also names arrowroot as a variety and has an image of one. So maybe Biscuit#Semi-sweet is the best we can do? It would be good to mention uraro there, though. --BDD (talk) 19:38, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- Note I've added Arrowroot biscuits to this discussion as the plural and singular should have the same target, whatever that ends up being. Thryduulf (talk) 21:06, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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There is also a Canadian arrowroot biscuit, made by Christie (Nabisco). Definitely not the same as either the Filipino cookies or the Australian ones, although I suspect the Canadian and Australian ones share a common British heritage. I'm shocked that we don't have an article on them.--Srleffler (talk) 00:04, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- As noted by Srleffler, Uraro is a Filipino traditional cookie and not all Arrowroot biscuits are Uraro - so, I feel it is misleading given that other countries also have "commercial" arrowroot biscuits - might make sense to keep just Arrowroot biscuits (currently a redirect to Arrowroot) and develop it as article to include details such as the ones Srleffler mentioned and delete Arrowroot biscuit. Asteramellus (talk) 01:31, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
Psnapps
[edit]- Psnapps → List of PlayStation applications (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
I could not find the redirect term at the target list. I initially thought it is the name of a PlayStation application, but it could be a short form for "PlayStation applications". I could not find anything in external searches. "PSN apps" may be plausible, but I don't understand why this redirect would be created without the space. If this is a WP:NEOLOGISM, delete. Jay 💬 15:35, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Weak delete per nom. Thepharoah17 (talk) 01:55, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
Seating Arraignment
[edit]- Seating Arraignment → Judge John Hodgman (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
No mention in target article - delete? Laterthanyouthink (talk) 03:26, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to List of Judge John Hodgman episodes (2010–2014); its an episode memtioned on that article. Still swayable for deletion, because this is miniscule for inclusion. Roast (talk) 03:53, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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14 March 2004 Mumbai Bombing
[edit]- 14 March 2004 Mumbai Bombing → March 2003 Mumbai bombing (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Took place a whole year ago in 2003, patently false rd. Gotitbro (talk) 12:49, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Thepharoah17 (talk) 14:17, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Question: I think from the history the date may have been a typo so it was moved to the correct title (correct year). I can't really tell, but if that is the case, should this be merged with March 2003 Mumbai bombing to preserve the history or is it minimal enough that it's OK to delete? --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 01:21, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
Ri Hak
[edit]Ri Hak is not mentioned on the target page, and I cannot find any reference to a club she may be playing for now. I also cannot find sufficient information in reliable sources to begin an article. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 20:50, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 21:04, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete – Per nom. Svartner (talk) 09:19, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Generally speaking, redirecting to clubs is frowned upon, given that players often transfer and will play for multiple clubs across their career. GiantSnowman 19:03, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete not mentioned at target, and this is a reason why we don't redirect people to clubs they play for at a point in time. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:57, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Eastern Americans
[edit]- Eastern Americans → Asian Americans (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Incorrect; even Google search results don’t show anything related to the target. Was originally an original research neologism dab. Thepharoah17 (talk) 08:06, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Weak retarget to East Coast of the United States#Culture perhaps? Mr slav999 (talk) 16:06, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Disambiguate or delete — with Mr slav999 suggesting a retarget, it shows the term is ambiguous. It'd be best to disambiguate—Asian Americans, Middle Eastern Americans, slav's retarget. If it won't be disambiguated, then we should delete to stop ambiguity from viewers. Roast (talk) 23:45, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. Neither Asian Americans nor East Coasters are called "Eastern Americans". While it's conceivable someone would come up with this and you might find it attested, rarely, it is not in use and should not be DAB'd. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 01:27, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete--Srleffler (talk) 01:29, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - Agree with MYCETEAE above. Asteramellus (talk) 01:38, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
R-Haine
[edit]Nickname for the party [8] not mentioned or alluded to in target; would be confusing to readers. Rusalkii (talk) 00:07, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Weak keep It means "right hate" in French and there is an image on the commons with the phrase. Thepharoah17 (talk) 08:25, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- It's a pun on the party's initials "RN", with "Haine" ("hate" in French) being pronounced identically to the letter N. Back when the party was the National Front the equivalent nickname was "F-Haine" (which we also have as a redirect here in Wikipedia). GCarty (talk) 09:08, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- IF someone sould add a criticism of, or opposition to section, and can then add that Commons photo, and the nickname to the article, that would be better -- 65.93.183.181 (talk) 21:06, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- It's a pun on the party's initials "RN", with "Haine" ("hate" in French) being pronounced identically to the letter N. Back when the party was the National Front the equivalent nickname was "F-Haine" (which we also have as a redirect here in Wikipedia). GCarty (talk) 09:08, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Weak delete. I googled R-Haine and nothing on the first page referred to the party; there were more hits for William R. Haine than anything else but overall it was mixed. The second page did return several results in French that used this. Anyone encountering this in French is unlikely to turn to enwiki for an explanation and English users who know it likely know National Rally. Only 'weak' because it is more plausibly used for NR than someone named Rhaine or William R. Haine. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 16:56, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Weak keep It is a nickname that is obvious to someone understanding French, considering the pun on "N". It would be a creative phonetic spelling as political criticism. Someone might want to add the Commons photo to the article. -- 65.93.183.181 (talk) 21:06, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
K2 Co., Ltd.
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Primordial God
[edit]- Primordial God → Genshin Impact (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This is a possible translation of the title, but it's a very general term and usage seems to be primarily (though not exclusively) referring to the Greek primordial deities. Rusalkii (talk) 19:38, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Disambiguate - Didn't even know about Primordial God isn't just Genshin Impact. Ahri Boy (talk) 00:25, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:REDYES for now. It seems that this term transcends cultures and not just exclusive to Greeks and gacha games. Maybe an editor that is knowledgeable with mythologies can create it in the future. --Lenticel (talk) 00:05, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
Ponni Nadhi
[edit]Ponni is an alternate name for the river, mentioned in the article, and "Nadhi" just means river. However, all hits up until I got tired of clicking "next" appear to refer to a song by this title, which we cover at Ponniyin Selvan: I (soundtrack). However, I can see the argument that the river is the primary topic due to long-term significance, so bringing this here. My preference would be to target the song with a hatnote to the river. Rusalkii (talk) 19:11, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep, as mentioned, the river is the primary topic since in Tamil the Kaveri is known as Ponni. While ponni nadhi may not bring up hits for the river (and only for the song), it seems that "Ponni river" does, and the song is called ponni nadhi (aka ponni river) because it's referring to the river. Eucalyptusmint (talk) 01:44, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep seems that the river is the primary topic. I've had the song's lyrics translated and it seems to talk about the river itself (and the lovely ladies associated with said river?) --Lenticel (talk) 02:29, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
Men & Motors / ITV5
[edit]- Men & Motors / ITV5 → Men & Motors (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This seems to be the remnant of a reverted page move in 2008 - Men & Motors has never had any association with the name "ITV5" (a name which is also the subject of a previous deletion). (This feels like it could be WP:G6 to me really, but not 100% certain, so listing here) Andreworkney (talk) 18:51, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
Cryptid
[edit]- Cryptid → List of cryptids (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Cryptids → List of cryptids (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Retarget both to Cryptozoology. Readers expect to find a full-fledged article rather than a list when they enter a search term or click a link on WP. There is not enough distinct content to sustain a separate article for Cryptid, and Cryptozoology is therefore the main article on this topic. Both are plausible search terms and readers would be better served by landing at the article that gives a full treatment of the topic. The article is better sourced and more stable than the list, which is subject to frequent additions and removals of disputed content. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 18:27, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- History: This was previously rejected (2018) and there is additional discussion at Talk:Cryptid about the merger history. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 18:28, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- still Keep - these articles were merged with a redirect so they are directly related in their histories. That is why it was a near unanimous keep when last discussed. Readers are looking for a pseudo animal or list of animals, not the principles behind the research. I'm not sure why you would say that. Fyunck(click) (talk) 19:51, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Pinging those in that discussion who are not regulars here. @Paleface Jack:, @Thryduulf:, @Slatersteven:, @Tronvillain:, @Rhododendrites:. Fyunck(click) (talk) 19:59, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- I appreciate the pings—more participation is better!—but just noting for the record here that I did place notifications on the Talk pages of Slatersteven, Tronvillain, Rhododendrites and several other individual editors based on their history of recent/frequent edits, as well as Talk:List of cryptids, Talk:Cryptozoology, and WP:FTN. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 20:56, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Thryduulf: You are not a regular here? Steel1943 (talk) 01:19, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah, I should have made clear a regular in cryptozoology discussions where this might be noticed. Obviously Thryduulf is more a premium than a regular. ;-) Fyunck(click) (talk) 04:02, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Fyunck(click): I'm a "
regular in cryptozoology discussions
"? Steel1943 (talk) 04:12, 7 July 2025 (UTC)- Did I miss you in the previous listed discussion? If so sorry. In checking, yep I missed you. Fyunck(click) (talk) 05:04, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Fyunck(click): I'm a "
- Yeah, I should have made clear a regular in cryptozoology discussions where this might be noticed. Obviously Thryduulf is more a premium than a regular. ;-) Fyunck(click) (talk) 04:02, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
Readers are looking for a pseudo animal or list of animals, not the principles behind the research. I'm not sure why you would say that.
I'll accept the will of the community here, but readers generally expect a more full treatment and not a list with dubious entries. When there's an article for a topic that substantially overlaps with a common search term, we to often redirect there. There has been a lot of discussion about the quality of the list relative to Cryptozoology and the list continues to have problems so I thought the question was ripe for revisiting. That said, I do agree that it's quite easy to find Cryptozoology from the list so a 'keep' result does little harm even though I find it less than ideal. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 21:53, 7 July 2025 (UTC)- I would disagree. There is a big difference between the object "cryptid" or "cryptids" and the pseudoscience of cryptozoology. That's like comparing bee's to Melittology which is the study of bees. Are we going to dump the bee article on the same principles? Do we dump the mollusk article and merge it into malacology? I think this proposed change is a disservice and not helpful to our readers. Fyunck(click) (talk) 20:12, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Pinging those in that discussion who are not regulars here. @Paleface Jack:, @Thryduulf:, @Slatersteven:, @Tronvillain:, @Rhododendrites:. Fyunck(click) (talk) 19:59, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the ping. Probably keep cryptids --> list, and redirect cryptid --> cryptozoology, just based on what people are likely searching for. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 20:02, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. Of the two possible targets, the introduction to the list has more directly relevant information about cryptid(s) - what people using this search term are most likely looking for - than does the introduction to the Cryptozoology article, which rightly focuses on the field of study (the article subject). Thryduulf (talk) 21:46, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: Added the link to previous RfD via the {{Old RfD list}} template, though the previous discussion from 2018 was already mentioned and linked in the discussion.
(For what it's worth, I may have participated in the previous discussion, but I have no opinion in this one.)Steel1943 (talk) 01:17, 7 July 2025 (UTC)- Thanks! I’m still learning the ropes here. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 13:49, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- That changed, I have a stance now. Steel1943 (talk) 17:38, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. Or, rename the article to "List of cryptids" and redirect "cryptids" to it. "Cryptozoology" is readily accessible via the opening section of the list. --tronvillain (talk) 01:21, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep, cannot really add anything, its a likely search term for people looking for this sillyness. Slatersteven (talk) 10:13, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete both or weak retarget to Cryptozoology per my comment in the previous discussion. I was considering sitting this out, but the comment Myceteae made in this discussion, [9], convinced me that my stance from years ago still has validity. Steel1943 (talk) 17:40, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- I'll also weakly support retarget Cryptid to Cryptozoology and keep Cryptids per Rhododendrites. I think my stance is that something needs to target Cryptozoology (or neither should exist per WP:REDLINK) since readers may not be looking for a list, and then resolve any possible confusion with hatnotes. Steel1943 (talk) 17:45, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- A very likely outcome if we delete is that someone creates a new Cryptid article or redirect, unilaterally selecting the target. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 18:06, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
ITV6
[edit]Implausible, channel never had this name and it's not mentioned in the target article. Andreworkney (talk) 15:25, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- REtarget to i-Television where ITV 6 currently redirects to. -- "i-Television" is called 'itv' and transmits on channel 6 -- 65.93.183.181 (talk) 03:30, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to I-Television per IP69. I believe "I-television" is a primary and possibly the only target for ITV6 (hence its logo). So, it may be necessary to retarget them to the correct article. 103.111.102.118 (talk) 04:21, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
Horsemen of the Apocalypse (album)
[edit]- Horsemen of the Apocalypse (album) → List of Metallica demos (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Neither this list nor Metallica discography indicate there was an album with this title. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:05, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment two albums (neither by Metallica) are listed at Horsemen of the Apocalypse (disambiguation)#Albums. Thryduulf (talk) 21:49, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Thryduulf: Did you notice those subjects are WP:PTMs? (The word/number "Four" is absent in the nominated redirect.) Steel1943 (talk) 16:15, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Yes. My comment was explicitly marked as comment so people could consider whether they felt that was relevant (some partial title matches are useful search terms even though most aren't). If I was recommending retargetting there I would have said that. Thryduulf (talk) 23:14, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Thryduulf: Did you notice those subjects are WP:PTMs? (The word/number "Four" is absent in the nominated redirect.) Steel1943 (talk) 16:15, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. On a related note, I have nominated the redirect Horsemen of the Apocalypse (disambiguation) at RfD: See Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 July 9#Horsemen of the Apocalypse (disambiguation). Steel1943 (talk) 16:15, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
Bomberos
[edit]- Bomberos → Firefighter (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Bomberos (Chilean firefighters) → Firefighter (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
No WP:FORRED. Thepharoah17 (talk) 20:24, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
Refine the second per Ninixed. Don't refine the first per Thryduulf. Thepharoah17 (talk) 04:02, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
- Refine the second to Geography of firefighting#Chile. Neutral on the first. Ninixed (talk) 22:33, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
Retarget both to Geography of firefighting#Chile, where it's mentioned, per Ninixed. 9ninety (talk) 06:49, 15 June 2025 (UTC)self striking, see new comment below 9ninety (talk) 13:58, 17 June 2025 (UTC)- Refine the second per Ninixed. Don't refine the first - per that page "Bomberos is the name given to firefighters in most Spanish-speaking countries" so pointing to a Chile-specific section would be inappropriate. Thryduulf (talk) 02:05, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete
the first and refine the second.Indeed, bombero simply means 'firefighter' in Spanish. Since firefighters have no special relevance to Spanish-speaking countries (vs. every where else), and since they have no special relevance to Chile (vs. every other Spanish-speaking country), neither the current redirect nor the refinement is appropriate for bomberos.--MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 22:31, 16 June 2025 (UTC) - Delete both. I was under the impression that the term bombero(s) was Chilean, but as Myceteae points out, it is simply Spanish for firefighter. I don't think it makes sense to delete Bomberos and keep Bomberos (Chilean firefighters), which is disambiguating from the former. I don't see any meaningful links to the latter either, so it's most likely not a useful redirect. 9ninety (talk) 13:58, 17 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943 (talk) 18:02, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- It's generally inappropriate for "X (Y)" to exist when "X" doesn't without a very good reason, so oppose the course of action proposed by Myceteae. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:48, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: There is consensus for Bomberos but not for Bomberos (Chilean firefighters) which seems to be dependent on the former. Notified of this discussion at the suggested target. Also, Bomberos (Chilean firefighters) was merged to Firefighting worldwide in 2007, and I have tagged it as an {{R from merge}}.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 09:45, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- I disagree with Pppery that the disambiguated redirect is dependent on the plain one existing. It is inappropriate for an article (or dab page) to be located at a disambiguated title when the base title doesn't exist or is a redirect to it, but that does not imply that a redirect at a disambiguated title requires the base title to be a blue link, nor can I think of a good reason why it should imply that. Thryduulf (talk) 10:00, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete both. I'm neutral on Pppery's general statement but I agree with 9ninety that it doesn't make much sense in this case. Bomberos (Chilean firefighters) is an implausible string and anyone who might type this seemingly has the tools to find the information they seek.--MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 19:04, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete both per WP:FORRED. Bombero is just the Spanish word for firefighter. -- LWG talk 19:33, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
Scraface
[edit]Unlikely typo to dab page. Roast (talk) 03:51, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- Weak keep Adjacent character transpositions are a very common category of typo -- 65.93.183.249 (talk) 04:49, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Notified of this discussion at the suggested target.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 08:49, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: Single adjacent transposition. I'm not aware of any other possible targets that would make this typo ambiguous. Jruderman (talk) 23:07, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. Looks like a misspelling of Sacrifice. Steel1943 (talk) 01:20, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- That would be a multi-error, not a single-error -- 65.93.183.181 (talk) 03:32, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: As noted by the IP editor and Jruderman, single-letter swaps are a very common type of typo, and very easy to do while typing just a little too fast. I don't think this creates ambiguity enough with Sacrifice to point there instead; it's sufficiently closer to Scarface to point us there. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 14:28, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
Simbolul R4BIA
[edit]- Simbolul R4BIA → Rabia sign (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Useless redirect, not mentioned anywhere in the target and was originally a page written in Romanian. Creator also had a similar page deleted. Should have been WP:G1 deleted. Thepharoah17 (talk) 08:45, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
NaMo
[edit]Re-target to Narendra Modi, most readers typing "NaMo" would be looking for Modi, as in the case of BoJo for Boris Johnson. — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 06:12, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Notified of this discussion at the current and proposed targets.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 08:21, 6 July 2025 (UTC) - Retarget per nom - here's a source using that capitalisation to refer to Modi: [10] BugGhost 🦗👻 22:48, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget per nom and Bugghost's findings. --Lenticel (talk) 01:18, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
NH2CH(CH2CH2SCH3)COOH
[edit]- NH2CH(CH2CH2SCH3)COOH → Methionine (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This is a very awkward notation for an amino acid. It is not mentioned at the target page or the related data page, despite both containing a variety of notations and identifiers. A web search for this ter, doesn't give me any results for the right molecule, instead giving me hits for cysteine and other amino acids. I do not think this is a plausible search term. Aside from the fact that it doesn't seem to be used anywhere else, anyone who knows enough organic chemistry to type out this abomination wouldn't, and probably has the 20 proteinogenic amino acids memorized anyways. Toadspike [Talk] 07:03, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. Recently created and sees little use (though ~10 is more than I expected). This isn't a navigation aid - it's trivia. ⇌ Synpath 13:00, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. Such searches are plausible only for much smaller molecules like CH4. Agree this is more like trivia and anyone inclined to search this surely has the tools to find the article they seek. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 22:04, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per above --Lenticel (talk) 01:19, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
AGONSA
[edit]- AGONSA → Education in the Philippines (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- GAONSA → Education in the Philippines (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Mnemonics for a method of solving math problems, not mentioned in the target article or anywhere else onwiki. May be specific to the Philippines but a quick google search does not confirm this. Rusalkii (talk) 06:45, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. No mention anywhere on en.wp means that someone searching for information will not be helped, and like the nom I can't confirm this is exclusive to the Philippines. It's also possible that Agonsa is a neighbourhood in Benin. Thryduulf (talk) 10:07, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: Not mentioned at Word problem (mathematics education) either, and doesn't seem common enough to be worth mentioning there. Jruderman (talk) 23:04, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete seems to exist and is a subject of a journal article. However, it is not related directly to the target article. It's probably best to keep this as a redlink in case it becomes an article in the future. --Lenticel (talk) 01:44, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
Muƹawiya
[edit]I cannot find this usage anywhere else on the internet, though it's possible google is failing me due to the weird character. I don't believe ƹ and ' are reasonably interchangeable in this manner, though I am not a linguist and will gladly be corrected by someone who knows this area better than me. Rusalkii (talk) 04:03, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment the article on ƹ implies that it was most commonly used in the 1940s-1980s, a period of time underrepresented on the internet so a lack of uses known to Google is not definitive. The Arabic letter (Ayin#Arabic ʿayn) it is/was used to transcribe does appear in the Arabic name for the target given in the infobox ("معاوية"), so it is not impossible this is an old transliteration - however I am not an Arabic speaker or familiar with the target topic area at all, so I'm not really qualified to speak to its plausibility. I'll see if I can find an appropriate WikiProject to alert to this discussion. Thryduulf (talk) 10:20, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment/Weak Keep I'm not an expert on Arabic so IDK if this usage is likely to ever get searched for, but from from a linguistic perspective ƹ and ' do seem to both represent the same sound, a voiced pharyngeal fricative. Both are used to transliterate the Arabic ع. So the redirect seems plausible. Redirects are cheap, but do we normally redirect phonetic transcriptions to their articles? -- LWG talk 15:36, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
271,000
[edit]Highly unlikely that this number is only relevent to this topic. Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 03:28, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. There are lots of instances of this number in lots of contexts on en.wp (people, viewers, subscribers, birds, dollars, euros, pounds (currency and weight), litres, imperial gallons, acres, square metres, square feet, units sold, Minnesota households, tons, miles, square miles, years ago, etc). On the first five pages of internal search results, only this redirect was related to Holocaust denial. Googling, does find Holocaust denial as the top result, but other results on the first two pages pages are product numbers, charity numbers, minor planets, homeless people, Japanese Yen, Ukrainian refugees, and what might be a phone number. Someone looking for information about this number in the context of holocaust denial will add some context to their search term in the same way that someone searching for this number in other contexts will. Thryduulf (talk) 22:01, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete target article doesn't even say anything about this number. -- LWG talk 00:37, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete According to my research, this is a specific claim that the 271,301 death toll counted by the International Committee of the Red Cross is a full count of Holocaust deaths.[1] But by itself, it is just a number. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:57, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per above. drinks or coffee ᶻ 𝗓 𐰁 ₍ᐢ. .ᐢ₎ 13:37, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Red Cross documents do not undermine official Holocaust death toll – Full Fact". fullfact.org. 28 February 2019. Retrieved 7 July 2025.
Ingénieur
[edit]Per WP:FORRED, it’s not valid. Thepharoah17 (talk) 19:42, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
- Keep Mentioned at target 9ninety (talk) 06:39, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
- On further thought, possibly refine to Engineer#France, the specific section which talks about the title. 9ninety (talk) 15:59, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
- In Quebec, it is a protected term, thus, refining isn't good. We just need to source it for the "Ing." of Quebec to be added. -- 65.93.183.249 (talk) 22:13, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- On further thought, possibly refine to Engineer#France, the specific section which talks about the title. 9ninety (talk) 15:59, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943 (talk) 18:02, 24 June 2025 (UTC) - Comment following up on @65.93.183.249's comment, I have drafted a dab page for Ingénieur, although I'm not entirely sure if it meets the criteria for a dab page. Any thoughts? 9ninety (talk) 07:27, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
- I've also added an entry about the related term Ingenieur in German (edit: and Dutch) 9ninety (talk) 07:42, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
- Further comment: If my dab proposal is accepted, Ingenieur (which currently redirects to Engineer's degree#Netherlands) can also be retargeted to the new dab, as I've added four entries related to it. 9ninety (talk) 10:16, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
- I've also added an entry about the related term Ingenieur in German (edit: and Dutch) 9ninety (talk) 07:42, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on the proposed dab?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Rusalkii (talk) 23:40, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
Keep, don'tDAB. French is spoken in dozens of countries and localities (for example) and if we add German and Dutch, the list only grows longer. It seems wrong to highlight only a few countries on the DAB page and compiling a more complete list of usage in every country and national subdivision is not particularly encyclopedic.Better to send readers to Engineer where they can find a comprehensive treatment of the topic.Content on other countries can be added to Engineer as appropriate. Since this is used as a title in many places, it's plausible readers would encounter this in English-language sources and want to look it up but we shouldn't assume usage is restricted to the locations we have listed at the draft DAB. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 01:34, 6 July 2025 (UTC)- I think the dab is fine (although I might be biased as its creator), since it lists all uses of the term that are discussed on Wikipedia, and also highlights engineer as the primary meaning. It therefore conveniently presents all relevant coverage of the title on Wikipedia. The engineer article only covers the term's usage in France, so it isn't exactly a comprehensive treatment. But I'm fine with keeping if we expand coverage (perhaps the § Definition by country section could be split into a comprehensive article titled Geography of engineering) and also retarget Ingenieur. 9ninety (talk) 15:21, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- I've changed my view after reading this and looking more carefully at usage in articles. The redirect is used in five articles. In 3 instances it is used in a piped link displayed as the abbreviation ir. or Ir., and it doesn't appear these individuals received their degrees nor worked in any of the countries listed at the DAB currently (I only skimmed). At Sapper#Imperial Japanese Army (IJA) it describes how the French system was introduced into Japan and at UniverSud Paris it describes the specific degree granted by this French university. I do think the DAB page content should be expanded and could possibly be more of an article than a DAB but I support making the change now. I would also retarget Ingenieur to the new DAB since this is used in many countries and the unaccented form could also be considered a variant of the French, especially for English speakers; and would retarget Ir. (with period) to the new DAB page. Currently Ir. points to the DAB page IR but we should treat the form with the period like Dr., Mr., etc. Keep Ingenieur listed at IR#Other uses but the description there can be updated and it will now point to the new DAB page (this is a suggestion and not something I'm asking you or anyone to do before a decision is made here). Thanks for working on this! --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 17:47, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Or perhaps just call the DAB page Ingenieur and make the accented form a redirect? Sorry to complicate this! --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 17:57, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah, I did consider that while making the draft, and it probably makes more sense. I've tried to rework it a bit and sort entries by language, but it got a bit messy. Was the earlier version better? (for reference: link to old version) 9ninety (talk) 10:56, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- I prefer the updated version and support publishing and retargeting as-is. It's a big improvement over the current redirect situation! --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 16:20, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Your draft disambiguation page still needs work. It's has far too many links, links to the same page more than once, and has multiple links per entry. It also has entries that don't link to any relevant material. Please review MOS:DAB before proceeding. - Eureka Lott 16:43, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- I've removed most of the excess links per WP:DABONE. Is linking to the same page more than once (different sections) explicitly discouraged? 9ninety (talk) 18:07, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- I don't know about explicit guidance for DABs but I think we can extrapolate from general practice and guidance (e.g., MOS:LINK) that repeat linking of, for example, engineer, is best avoided here. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 21:01, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- I've removed most of the excess links per WP:DABONE. Is linking to the same page more than once (different sections) explicitly discouraged? 9ninety (talk) 18:07, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Your draft disambiguation page still needs work. It's has far too many links, links to the same page more than once, and has multiple links per entry. It also has entries that don't link to any relevant material. Please review MOS:DAB before proceeding. - Eureka Lott 16:43, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- I prefer the updated version and support publishing and retargeting as-is. It's a big improvement over the current redirect situation! --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 16:20, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah, I did consider that while making the draft, and it probably makes more sense. I've tried to rework it a bit and sort entries by language, but it got a bit messy. Was the earlier version better? (for reference: link to old version) 9ninety (talk) 10:56, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- The abbreviation used in Canada is "Ing." not "Ir." -- that would not be appropriate to redirect to "IR", since "Ing." appears in English in Canada. -- 65.93.183.181 (talk) 03:35, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Would you support redirecting Ing. to the DAB and mentioning this there, if this moves forward? --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 21:17, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- It should keep pointing to the disambiguation page Ing, since there is an entry there for engineer's degree, which is different from the professional practice protected title. We need to add the profession practice protected title abbreviation to the disambiguation page at Ing for the use of "Ing." in Canada. The protected title being either Ir. or Ing. in abbreviation would thus appear on both disambiguation pages. -- 65.93.183.181 (talk) 20:54, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Would you support redirecting Ing. to the DAB and mentioning this there, if this moves forward? --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 21:17, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Or perhaps just call the DAB page Ingenieur and make the accented form a redirect? Sorry to complicate this! --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 17:57, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- I've changed my view after reading this and looking more carefully at usage in articles. The redirect is used in five articles. In 3 instances it is used in a piped link displayed as the abbreviation ir. or Ir., and it doesn't appear these individuals received their degrees nor worked in any of the countries listed at the DAB currently (I only skimmed). At Sapper#Imperial Japanese Army (IJA) it describes how the French system was introduced into Japan and at UniverSud Paris it describes the specific degree granted by this French university. I do think the DAB page content should be expanded and could possibly be more of an article than a DAB but I support making the change now. I would also retarget Ingenieur to the new DAB since this is used in many countries and the unaccented form could also be considered a variant of the French, especially for English speakers; and would retarget Ir. (with period) to the new DAB page. Currently Ir. points to the DAB page IR but we should treat the form with the period like Dr., Mr., etc. Keep Ingenieur listed at IR#Other uses but the description there can be updated and it will now point to the new DAB page (this is a suggestion and not something I'm asking you or anyone to do before a decision is made here). Thanks for working on this! --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 17:47, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- I think the dab is fine (although I might be biased as its creator), since it lists all uses of the term that are discussed on Wikipedia, and also highlights engineer as the primary meaning. It therefore conveniently presents all relevant coverage of the title on Wikipedia. The engineer article only covers the term's usage in France, so it isn't exactly a comprehensive treatment. But I'm fine with keeping if we expand coverage (perhaps the § Definition by country section could be split into a comprehensive article titled Geography of engineering) and also retarget Ingenieur. 9ninety (talk) 15:21, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
Astro Premier League 2
[edit]- Astro Premier League 2 → Astro (company) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Astro Premier League is mentioned, but not Astro Premier League 2. Rusalkii (talk) 22:28, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
Islamic State provinces
[edit]- Islamic State – Hijaz Province → Islamic State – Saudi Arabia Province (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Islamic State – Green Brigade Province → Islamic State – Yemen Province (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
I think these are translations of sub-organizations? Neither is mentioned in the target. I am not confident these shouldn't redirect here, but they have been languishing in the back of the queue for months so nominating these to get wider community input. Rusalkii (talk) 22:26, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Hijaz Wilayah also exists, but is probably not similar enough to bundle. Rusalkii (talk) 22:31, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for reaching out. I readded both the Wilāyat Laḥj (lit. 'Lahij Province') and Wilāyat Liwā’ ʾAkhḍar (lit. 'Green Brigade Province') sub-branches back into the Islamic State – Yemen Province article with references. This is after RowanJ LP removed them for not having a reference. As for Wilāyat al-Ḥijāz (lit. 'Hejaz Province'), I'm planning to add a similar wikitable for the Islamic State – Saudi Arabia Province article in the future.
- For the latter redirect, i.e. Hijaz Wilayah, I'm pretty sure either ISIS or Pro-ISIS propaganda uses the term. Buddy731 (talk) 11:18, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
Big Challenges
[edit]- Big Challenges → List of Sanrio characters (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned in target or anywhere else onwiki. Rusalkii (talk) 21:23, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. This character is not revelant enough, so he shouldn't have a page or mention. I am JustAWaddleDee (talk) 00:14, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Weak keep: I have added a sourced mention. Duckmather (talk) 01:29, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: I added some more based on another source, and I think that's enough independent reliable sources (2) to keep it in the target list. Also, the character appears in a 2023 video game, so it's plausible the redirect could be of use if anyone tries to look up the character here after seeing it in the game. Siawase (talk) 08:21, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep, this seems to be the only use as a proper noun (at least that I've found), although consider linking to and from The Big Challenge via hatnotes. Thryduulf (talk) 09:33, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
2.725
[edit]- 2.725 → Cosmic microwave background#Features (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
"The CMB has a thermal black body spectrum at a temperature of 2.72548±0.00057 K", but I'm not convinced this enough to redirect from a number to the article. Under which circumstances would this be used? A search for the number gives primarily random bits of arithmetic, product numbers and dimensions, case law, and similar. Rusalkii (talk) 21:11, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete There is no purpose to this redirect. Johnjbarton (talk) 00:23, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: almost seems to be an implausible redirect, per WP:R3. Praemonitus (talk) 04:01, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Thryduulf (talk) 09:45, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete It's just a number. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:52, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- delete, no one would type the temperature just to find the article. drinks or coffee ᶻ 𝗓 𐰁 ₍ᐢ. .ᐢ₎ 13:39, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
Baijiahao
[edit]Baidu's content creation platform. Not mentioned in target or anywhere onwiki except in citations. May merit a mention, but is confusing as-is. Rusalkii (talk) 21:08, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
Chlodwig
[edit]I'm open to keeping the status quo, redirecting to Clovis (given name), or other alternatives. I was at Luigi, followed the link to Chlodwig and was "astonished" to read the opening line of Louis (given name) which contains the very similar name Chlodowig which is a piped link to Clovis (given name), and wondered why these don't point to the same place. Louis may, indeed, be the better target but it's not obvious to me. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 20:56, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, or Retarget to Chlodwig, Prince of Hohenlohe-Schillingsfürst. There is absolutely no reason to have redirects created from every ancient form of every given name; that's just absurd. That's why we have the "Search" function (in addition to the "Go" function) in the search field, to locate all instances of the term, not just the one Neelix happened to turn his obsessive and nonsensical brain to. Softlavender (talk) 22:06, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- My hesitation is that it is used in two articles where it is linked with reference to the name, and none in reference to this or any other individual named Chlodwig. A Google search turns up a variety of references, including to the fellow you linked and to Clovis I aka, apparently, Chlodwig. I take your point about not creating redirects for every variant of a name that has ever been attested, but where a redirect is used in article space in this way, I'm inclined to keep or redirect to a more appropriate given name, but not retarget to a specific individual that no editor has linked mononymously this way. A DAB page would be better than this. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 23:50, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Notified Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anthroponymy. Note that I previously notified Talk:Louis (given name), Talk:Luigi, Talk:Lewis (given name), Talk:Lewis (given name) and several editors who have contributed to Chlodwig. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 15:54, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget – definitely to either Chlodwig, Prince of Hohenlohe-Schillingsfürst or Clovis I. They should both probably have Template:Distinguish to each other in that case however.
- Ike Lek (talk) 16:51, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep or redirect to Clovis I, as the two most likely targets. A number of Frankish royal names have no standardized spelling, but are found in numerous forms, and this is one of them. It needs to redirect either to Louis or possibly to Clovis, as they are the same name. Presumably the link at Louis goes to "Clovis (given name)" because otherwise it would be a recursive link and uninformative; the same word can certainly link to different places depending on context, and in that case anyone clicking on it would be looking for historical information. Without that distinction, "Louis" makes as much sense—perhaps more, because the redirect is a spelling variation. Strongly oppose redirecting to "Chlodwig, Prince of Hohenlohe-Schillingsfürst", as an extremely improbable search target for the bare name. Most English speakers will be familiar with the name "Louis", many with Clovis I, very few with this German prince. That redirect would certainly astonish many readers. P Aculeius (talk) 16:54, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- NOTE: Chlodwig is not mentioned anywhere prominently or in bold in Clovis I. (It's buried deep in the body text and one has to use Control+F to even find it.) Therefore, I struggle to understand why that article is being promoted as a superior retarget. Softlavender (talk) 21:08, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Because most uses of it (under any spelling) encountered by readers are likely to be references to the Frankish king. Though there were other notable persons—including notable Franks—by this name, as well as partial title matches (such as the above-mentioned German noble, and the Clovis culture of North America and their characteristic spearheads), Clovis I sweeps the field among persons whose names are likely to be rendered simply as "Clodowig", "Chlodowig" "Clodwig", "Chlodwig", etc. P Aculeius (talk) 01:35, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- A condition for redirects is that the term be featured prominently, preferably in bold, in the target article, so there is no puzzlement from the reader as to why they ended up on that page when they were searching for something entirely and noticeably different. Since Clovis I still fails in that regard, I continue to oppose redirecting to that article. Softlavender (talk) 01:54, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- There's no such condition. Many thousands of morphological variants lead to the topics they're variants of without being "featured prominently" in the articles they target. In fact it would be absurd if persons (or things) whose names were spelled, though infrequently, in numerous ways had to feature each variation "prominently, preferably in bold". It's more common to have a subsection listing variant names, or simply to place a footnote in the lead. P Aculeius (talk) 13:32, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- P, in my opinion you don't sound very familiar with redirects or the conditions and rationales involved. "Chlodwig" or some variation of it would need to be mentioned in the lead, preferably the lead sentence, for the redirect to make sense to anyone typing in the term and clicking on what comes up. Generally people who type in a term are looking for someone by that very name, hence Chlodwig, Prince of Hohenlohe-Schillingsfürst. Most people can't remember the tongue-twisting rest of the name and so would simply type in "Chlodwig".
"Chlodwig" and "Clovis" are not even spelling variants of each other, and differ too much to be understood by an unexplained redirect. If there are still people who want "Clovis" to be considered as a target, then in my opinion the only solution is Chlodwig (disambiguation), which would, quite obviously, list Chlodwig, Prince of Hohenlohe-Schillingsfürst (and any other wiki titles with "Chlodwig" in them) first, and could then list or mention Clovis and/or various Clovises. Softlavender (talk) 20:37, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- P, in my opinion you don't sound very familiar with redirects or the conditions and rationales involved. "Chlodwig" or some variation of it would need to be mentioned in the lead, preferably the lead sentence, for the redirect to make sense to anyone typing in the term and clicking on what comes up. Generally people who type in a term are looking for someone by that very name, hence Chlodwig, Prince of Hohenlohe-Schillingsfürst. Most people can't remember the tongue-twisting rest of the name and so would simply type in "Chlodwig".
- There's no such condition. Many thousands of morphological variants lead to the topics they're variants of without being "featured prominently" in the articles they target. In fact it would be absurd if persons (or things) whose names were spelled, though infrequently, in numerous ways had to feature each variation "prominently, preferably in bold". It's more common to have a subsection listing variant names, or simply to place a footnote in the lead. P Aculeius (talk) 13:32, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Indeed, "Chlodwig" even shows up in some dictionaries defined as Clovis I.[11][12] I am leaning towards Clovis (given name) as the best redirect. This is consistent with the two uses in articles currently, pointing to the origin of other names, and would lead readers to Clovis I and all the other Chlodwigs and Clovises. Clovis I could be mentioned in the lead or otherwise made more prominent there if there is concern that enough readers are looking for this individual (he is, of course, listed already). A new Chlodwig (disambiguation) page (not that anyone has suggested this) page seems extraneous and would mostly point to and duplicate entries from Clovis (given name). WikiNav[13][14] shows a fair bit of traffic between Clovis (given name), Louis (given name), and the related names. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 03:19, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- A condition for redirects is that the term be featured prominently, preferably in bold, in the target article, so there is no puzzlement from the reader as to why they ended up on that page when they were searching for something entirely and noticeably different. Since Clovis I still fails in that regard, I continue to oppose redirecting to that article. Softlavender (talk) 01:54, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Because most uses of it (under any spelling) encountered by readers are likely to be references to the Frankish king. Though there were other notable persons—including notable Franks—by this name, as well as partial title matches (such as the above-mentioned German noble, and the Clovis culture of North America and their characteristic spearheads), Clovis I sweeps the field among persons whose names are likely to be rendered simply as "Clodowig", "Chlodowig" "Clodwig", "Chlodwig", etc. P Aculeius (talk) 01:35, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
C4SS
[edit]- Center for a Stateless Society → Market anarchism (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- C4SS → Market anarchism#The Center for a Stateless Society (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
The Center for a Stateless Society is no longer discussed anywhere on Wikipedia, except for being listed in a list of libertarian organizations. I would propose deleting these redirects. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aŭstriano (talk • contribs) 03:03, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. It's worth a mention in market anarchism based on this source. czar 15:51, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- 'Retarget "C4SS" to Metropolitan University Prague, where the 'Center for Security Studies' (C4SS) is mentioned. If a mention for the Center for a Stateless Society returns, it could be turned into a disambiguation page. -- 65.93.183.249 (talk) 05:27, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- Keep the first and Disambiguate the second. I added a mention of them to the article. lethargilistic (talk) 00:46, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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High House Shadow
[edit]- High House Shadow → Malazan Book of the Fallen#Cards and Tiles (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Delete. Not mentioned in the target article or in any other article. Was an unreferenced article that was redirected in 2014. Mika1h (talk) 07:33, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- Restore and delete at AfD. Jay 💬 08:53, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
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Parachute (EP)
[edit]- Parachute (EP) → Hellogoodbye (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Parachute e.p. → Hellogoodbye (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- The Parachute → Hellogoodbye (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
It's not clear why this redirects here - it isn't mentioned. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:00, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- Comment The history here is a bit complicated. In June 2006 an article about an EP by this name was created at The Parachute by user:Russ is the sex, it was nominated for speedy deletion about two hours later, but that was declined and converted to a prod. That prod was accompanied by (but not replaced by) a suggestion to merge to hellogoodbye from the original author, which the speedy deletion nominator (HarryCane, who hasn't edited since 2011) indicated in an edit summary they had done. In 2007 The Parachute was retargetted to The parachute1 which was later moved to The Parachute (novel), which was speedily deleted in 2008 as a G11 (although it didn't indicate notability it didn't seem overly promotional to me), leading to the redirect being speedily deleted under R1 (today's G8). Meanwhile in April 2007 J r glenn created Parachute e.p. as an article, which was moved to Parachute (EP) by Brianga a few minutes later. The following day, HarryCane redirected it citing the "consensus in the edit history of The Parachute". Thryduulf (talk) 12:57, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- Note I've added Parachute e.p. to this discussion. Thryduulf (talk) 12:57, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- Keep if mention is added, otherwise delete. If the content of either former article can be verified (I haven't looked) then it should be added as 1-2 sentences at the target, then both redirects should point to that mention. Otherwise it should be deleted. I'm not advocating a restoration of the article content on this occasion as the first article was prodded without objection and the second didn't add anything new, but if anyone else thinks it should be restored then I will support that and my "delete" recommendation should be regarded as invalid in that cirumstance. Thryduulf (talk) 12:57, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- Comment The Parachute (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) should be bundled here. If these are kept, the edit history for the former article that was merged away should be restored as a redirect with history that was merged -- 65.93.183.249 (talk) 03:06, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Is there any reason why The Parachute isn't listed at Hellogoodbye#Extended plays or elsewhere in their discography? It has an entry at Last.fm but I don't find much else online that would establish notability. I'm with Thryduulf, if there's enough to support its inclusion, it should be added to the article and the redirects should be kept but I'm not coming up with much so lean delete otherwise. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 21:15, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
Inscript
[edit]Dabify or hatnote with inscription? Ninixed (talk) 02:19, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
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Inscriptional
[edit]- Inscriptional → Vox-ATypI classification#The Inscriptionals (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Shouldn't it have the same target of inscription? Ninixed (talk) 02:18, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
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Influencer Smurf
[edit]- Influencer Smurf → Smurfs (film) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Meme about a smurf from the trailer of this movie, not mentioned in the target page. Possibly merits a mention (see e.g. [15] [16]), in which case the redirect should be kept, but I believe the character was replaced for the actual movie. Rusalkii (talk) 19:06, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Retarget to List of The Smurfs characters as {{R from list entry}}. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:43, 8 June 2025 (UTC)
- The table there has 117 smurfs listed, but not one of them is cited. I have added nom's source there though. Jay 💬 09:28, 17 June 2025 (UTC)
- The skinny is that Influencer Smurf has been canceled.[17] Xe has allegedly been replaced in the trailer by Vanity Smurf.[18] Perhaps there is a story here that is worth including somewhere, but until such story is available, the redirect (whether to Smurfs (film) or List of The Smurfs characters) is not helpful. See also WP:CRYSTAL. ‑‑Lambiam 13:23, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- The table there has 117 smurfs listed, but not one of them is cited. I have added nom's source there though. Jay 💬 09:28, 17 June 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete, obviously. No articles link to Influencer Smurf. The term is nowhere to be found on the target page, so following the link (like from Category:Internet memes introduced in 2025) will only result in a confusing waste of time. ‑‑Lambiam 11:52, 25 June 2025 (UTC) Moved from the May 27 page (where the redirect was originally nominated) by Thryduulf (talk) 12:05, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
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- Retarget to List of The Smurfs characters now that this has been added with supporting references. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 21:34, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- retarget per above drinks or coffee ᶻ 𝗓 𐰁 ₍ᐢ. .ᐢ₎ 14:02, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
Maggie Weinroth
[edit]- Maggie Weinroth → Colorado State Fair (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned at the target, useless. K1 does not apply because this should never have been an article in the first place and it has no useful history. 204.111.137.20 (talk) 03:14, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- I think you mean WP:G1? Thepharoah17 (talk) 05:41, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Thepharoah17 I assume they mean WP:RFD#KEEP. Rusalkii (talk) 06:08, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oh ok thanks. Thepharoah17 (talk) 06:12, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Thepharoah17 I assume they mean WP:RFD#KEEP. Rusalkii (talk) 06:08, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
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List of Lebanon women's international footballers
[edit]- Karly Harfouche → List of Lebanon women's international footballers (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Cybelle Al Ghoul → List of Lebanon women's international footballers (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Amal Salha → List of Lebanon women's international footballers (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Souad Takash → List of Lebanon women's international footballers (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Assile Toufaily → List of Lebanon women's international footballers (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Melanie Ghanime → List of Lebanon women's international footballers (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Yasmin Sardouk → List of Lebanon women's international footballers (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Saria Al Sayegh → List of Lebanon women's international footballers (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Outside of the scope of the List article (10+ caps for the Lebanon national team). Nehme1499 11:34, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- Admins: please do not close this as soft delete: these discussions should be paused/relisted until the scope of the article is determined by consensus. See my comment here. Cremastra (talk) 17:39, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
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Carla Abdel Khalek
[edit]- Carla Abdel Khalek → List of Lebanon women's international footballers (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Outside of the scope of the List article (10+ caps for the Lebanon national team). Nehme1499 11:33, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - no good target, she is mentioned in multiple articles. Jay 💬 15:15, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- Admins: please do not close this as delete: these discussions should be paused/relisted until the scope of the article is determined by consensus. See my comment here. Cremastra (talk) 17:39, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
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Aya El Boukhary
[edit]- Aya El Boukhary → List of Lebanon women's international footballers (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Outside of the scope of the List article (10+ caps for the Lebanon national team). Nehme1499 11:33, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- Admins: please do not close this as soft delete: these discussions should be paused/relisted until the scope of the article is determined by consensus. See my comment here. Cremastra (talk) 17:39, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
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Cecile Iskandar
[edit]- Cecile Iskandar → List of Lebanon women's international footballers (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Outside of the scope of the List article (10+ caps for the Lebanon national team). Nehme1499 11:33, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- Admins: please do not close this as soft delete: these discussions should be paused/relisted until the scope of the article is determined by consensus. See my comment here. Cremastra (talk) 17:39, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
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Rida Wahab
[edit]- Rida Wahab → List of Lebanon women's international footballers (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Outside of the scope of the List article (10+ caps for the Lebanon national team). Nehme1499 11:33, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Nehme1499 It wasn't outside the scope until you made this summary-less edit without prior talk page discussion or indeed any explanation. This and all discussions on these redirects should be paused until a talk page discussion determines the scope of the article. Cremastra (talk) 17:38, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
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Foot play
[edit]this can refer to A) footsies (in which case this should be targeting footsies or B) foot fetish (in which case this should be targeting foot fetishism). either way, this current target is just inappropriate for either options User:Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 08:09, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- Disambig. There is also Figures of Argentine tango#Foot play (which could do with a better-phrased introduction). Most of the other hits are either collocations which don't belong on the dab page, or playing off the front or back foot in cricket which may merit a link to Footwork (cricket) but I'm unsure. Thryduulf (talk) 18:12, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
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- Dabify per Thryduulf --Lenticel (talk) 02:06, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- dab per Thryduulf. drinks or coffee ᶻ 𝗓 𐰁 ₍ᐢ. .ᐢ₎ 14:03, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
Sir Peter Pindar
[edit]- Sir Peter Pindar → Thomas Chaloner (naturalist)#Alum manufacture (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
The section that may have mentioned Peter Pindar is now missing. Thomas Chaloner (naturalist) can apparently be confused with his cousin Thomas Chaloner (courtier) (whose article mentions Paul Pindar), both being involved with alum. Without a mention this redirect is confusing. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:28, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
Sedevacantist Antipope
[edit]- Sedevacantist Antipope → Conclavism (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Sedevacantist Antipopes → Conclavism (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Sedevacantist antipope → Conclavism (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Sedevacantist antipopes → Conclavism (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
The two contradict eachother, Sedevacantism is the view that since 1958 there hasn't been any True Popes, Conclavists are people who claim to be Catholic who've elected their own Popes, beleiving that they're successors to Saint Peter. The only similarity is that they both hold that all the Claimants to the Papacy since 1958/The Second Vatican Council are Antipopes. But Sedevacantists also hold that the Conclavist claimants to the Papacy are to Antipopes. Reason 5 says that if a Redirect makes no snese it can be deleted, since this redirect makes no snense it needs to be deleted Olek Novy (talk)
- Keep - from reading these articles, it sounds like the nom statement differs from what's in the articles - eg. the opening from Conclavism states that the method of electing rival popes
is used by some schismatic Catholics, often Sedevacantists
, and third paragraph of Sedevacantist saysVarious factions of conclavists among sedevacantists have proceeded to end the perceived vacancy in the Holy See by electing their own pope
. Our articles are saying Sedevacantists who elect their own (anti)popes are Conclavists. To me the redirects make sense so should be kept. BugGhost 🦗👻 06:13, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
Plain rice
[edit]Whatever this redirect is meant to represent, I do not believe that the generic article about Rice is the appropriate target. If anything, this phrase most likely refers to Rice as food, but even that is unclear. Maybe be best to delete this thing. Steel1943 (talk) 21:02, 17 June 2025 (UTC)
- I think redirecting to Rice as Food makes more sense -- in that its descriptive of the thing being consumed (it's plain") rather than of the species or the product. Sadads (talk) 22:23, 17 June 2025 (UTC)
- In British usage, "Plain rice" (white steamed rice) is distinguished from "fried rice" or other "special" (with shrimp, etc) rice dishes. All this should be in Rice as food. Chiswick Chap (talk) 04:28, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Noting that Rice as food doesn't mention "plain rice" (yet).
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- Retarget to rice as food. "Plain" need not be mentioned there, since its meaning is obvious, particularly in contrast with the not-plain varieties mentioned in the target. Nyttend (talk) 07:06, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget Cooked rice. Article is specifically about the served dish & not the broad concept of "rice as food". And "plain" is mentioned. Hyphenation Expert (talk) 03:06, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: There are multiple suggested targets.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 13:59, 5 July 2025 (UTC)- Retarget to Cooked rice as per Hyphenation. The article actually does talk about the dish in question and is thus the better target, compared with Rice as food. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 19:48, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
Elon Musk 2028 presidential campaign
[edit]- Elon Musk 2028 presidential campaign → 2028 United States presidential election#Eligibility (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
WP:CRYSTALBALL, there is no mention that Musk is going for US President in 2028 A1Cafel (talk) 09:10, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom drinks or coffee ᶻ 𝗓 𐰁 ₍ᐢ. .ᐢ₎ 12:48, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep And there doesn't necessarily have to be. The bar for a redirect is very low. If anybody was wondering if Musk was or could run for president, it just redirects to the part of the 2028 United States presidential election article that says he can't. The section mentions HE specifically. I don't see the problem here at all. pbp 13:36, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete — Musk cannot run for president in 2028, full stop. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 15:49, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- @ElijahPepe:'s vote doesn't have any deletion rationale and as such should be disregarded by the closing nom. It is based on a (likely-inaccurate) assumption that everybody knows that Elon is ineligible for the presidency and doesn't take into account how low the floor is for redirect creation. Even hoaxes can have articles, let alone redirects. pbp 16:34, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- So hasty to try to win an argument. This redirect does not serve any purpose because the subject doesn't exist and won't exist, even as a hoax. This cannot be used in an article. In addition, it assumes that there is a connection between Musk and the 2028 election that does not exist. Elon Musk 2032 presidential campaign is not an article or a redirect because there is no coverage on the subject, real or not. Pageviews shows only 36 views since March. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 16:43, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Redirects need not have possibilities to be retained. And there IS significant coverage in reliable sources discussing Elon Musk's presidential eligibility. And of course Elon Musk 2032 doesn't exist: election and campaign articles don't exist two cycles out. Pageviews suggest that people ARE looking for a term; pageviews would have to be basically 0 to justify deletion on page views. Again, I'm not seeing much understanding of the relevant policies here. pbp 17:14, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- So hasty to try to win an argument. This redirect does not serve any purpose because the subject doesn't exist and won't exist, even as a hoax. This cannot be used in an article. In addition, it assumes that there is a connection between Musk and the 2028 election that does not exist. Elon Musk 2032 presidential campaign is not an article or a redirect because there is no coverage on the subject, real or not. Pageviews shows only 36 views since March. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 16:43, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- @ElijahPepe:'s vote doesn't have any deletion rationale and as such should be disregarded by the closing nom. It is based on a (likely-inaccurate) assumption that everybody knows that Elon is ineligible for the presidency and doesn't take into account how low the floor is for redirect creation. Even hoaxes can have articles, let alone redirects. pbp 16:34, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep as per pbp. If we have relevant information, let's direct readers to it. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 19:52, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep basically per pbp and 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫. There is some chatter in the ether, the target discusses this, and redirects are cheap. That we already know he's ineligible isn't really the bar here. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 21:41, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete even if redirects were allow for non existing presidential campaign, Elon is not even from the United States, which would make him ineligible to run anyways. Fad8229 (talk) 00:38, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. Extremely unlikely search term. Why would anyone search this and why would they expect to see general information about eligiblity Esolo5002 (talk) 00:58, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Esolo5002: As noted above, people HAVE searched that term... pbp 16:16, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per pbp, Lunamann and Myceteae. People are using this search term and we have the information they are looking for so we would need to have a good reason not to take them to that information. No such reason has been presented here. Thryduulf (talk) 22:10, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. There is relevant content, and we cannot assume that a given reader already knows that foreign-born individuals are unable to run for US presidency; perhaps after following the redirect they might learn that for the first time. Left guide (talk) 19:24, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Correct! And we can't even assume people know that Elon Musk is foreign-born! pbp 22:51, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. Yep, context is there. Steel1943 (talk) 16:54, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
EU's
[edit]Seems ambiguous, as it means anything that is related to EU, not EU itself A1Cafel (talk) 09:09, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- retarget to EU (disambiguation) -- 65.93.183.181 (talk) 03:42, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to EU (disambiguation) per the IP. Thepharoah17 (talk) 02:06, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
Tail wing
[edit]- Tail wing → Empennage (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Tail-wing → Tailplane (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
These should point at the same target. 1234qwer1234qwer4 22:36, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- Probably target both to empennage, which includes a section on tail planes, or disambiguate. Cremastra (talk) 15:16, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- It could also refer to a canard or a delta wing. I suggest disambiguating. Carguychris (talk) 17:28, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- Are any of these referred to as tail "wing"? Also, aren't canard and delta wing tailless? Jay 💬 10:02, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, they are both technically tailless, but it requires some technical knowledge to realize that "tail" refers to the empennage, and not simply to the rear of the aircraft. I've had someone ask me what to call an airplane "with the big wing at the tail", pointing to a canard. Carguychris (talk) 04:07, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Main pages
[edit]I was expecting this to lead to Main page (disambiguation) (which does link to the current target). I would have boldly retargetted there, as home pages are not the only type of main page, but (apart from short-lived vandalism in 2016 and 2024) it has been stable since creation in 2014. Obviously singular and plural usually lead to the same content, but I don't think targetting the Main Page would be helpful here. Thryduulf (talk) 02:35, 26 June 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to Main page (disambiguation) per nom. Xoontor (talk) 16:57, 26 June 2025 (UTC)
- Keep as Home page is the broad-concept article for the concept of main pages as google quickly reveals. Duckmather (talk) 02:16, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- If Home page was as Duckmather suggests then Main page (disambiguation) wouldn't exist, it clearly does exist and covers topics not mentioned at Home page so we should retarget to the dab which matches the search term rather than the broad concept article that doesn't. Thryduulf (talk) 08:29, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget per nom. drinks or coffee ᶻ 𝗓 𐰁 ₍ᐢ. .ᐢ₎ 12:49, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to Main page (disambiguation) per nom and others. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 21:46, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
End of Life on Earth
[edit]- End of Life on Earth → Tinchy Stryder (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
I was very surprised to end up at this target where the term is not mentioned. Both Tinchy Stryder videography and List of songs recorded by Tinchy Stryder mention that this is the title of one of his albums and expect an article about it to be at End of Life on Earth (2012 album), although that title has never existed. Where should it target though? End of the world, Mass extinction, Global catastrophic risk and Global catastrophic scenarios are possible targets and I'm not sure which is best. Thryduulf (talk) 11:45, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- Death of everything is another possible target to consider. Thryduulf (talk) 12:42, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- Future of Earth also covers the topic of the future of life on Earth. Perhaps it should point to an 'End of life' disambiguation? Praemonitus (talk) 13:48, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. The capitalization makes it clear that this is an (unmentioned at the target) title. Looking at the history, it seems to be an unreleased album, which was renamed, and then deleted for notability reasons...or something like this; it's a bit confusing. In any case, the original purpose of this redirect no longer exists, and none of the proposed targets are good matches; they're all about vaguely similar, but different topics. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 16:03, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Global catastrophe scenarios. 21 Andromedae (talk) 16:56, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- Comment. Future of Earth § Climate is going to be a better target, since it actually talks about...you know...the end of life on Earth, and not varying levels of different types of sudden catastrophes, which is kind of different. However, even still, this redirect should be deleted due to the capitalization, and anyone is free to make a new one if they think it's worthwhile enough. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 17:43, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- I disagree that Future of Earth#Climate is a good target because that's only one of many possible ways that life on earth could end. Thryduulf (talk) 10:15, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Global catastrophe scenarios, which discusses scenarios that could cause the end of life on Earth. Future of Earth#Climate impact only discusses one scenario. Death of everything combines my proposed target, two irrelevant musical works, and Heat death of the universe, which doesn't refer to life or merely to Earth. Nyttend (talk) 20:46, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- Disambiguate to all the choices listed in the aboves, including the album (via the artist's article) -- 65.93.183.249 (talk) 04:57, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete this capitalized version per the first anonymous editor above. The canceled album isn't notable, and this capitalization doesn't directly refer to any of the suggested targets. The articles that currently link to End of Life on Earth (2012 album) should probably be updated, since the album doesn't exist. - Eureka Lott 14:27, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Delete, disambiguate, or retarget, and if so where?
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- Delete + Disambig: To start with, it seems that Full Tank and End of Life on Earth were both cancelled as albums. I think that deleting this redirect and creating End of life on earth (or Earth) as a disambig would be for the best. This would allow us to cover the multiple possible links that "End of life" would potentially redirect to while also fixing the problem. --Super Goku V (talk) 07:11, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment End of life is now a disambiguation page. Thryduulf (talk) 09:52, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- retarget to Global catastrophe scenarios per Nyttend. drinks or coffee ᶻ 𝗓 𐰁 ₍ᐢ. .ᐢ₎ 14:06, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
Marnus
[edit]Not only person named Marnus. Either Disambiguate existing redirect, or in the case that Marnus Labuschagne is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC create a new Disambiguation page either titled Marnus (name) or Marnus (disambiguation) Servite et contribuere (talk) 04:34, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Disambiguate many people with that name, no evidence that Labuschange is the primary target. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:27, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Disambiguate per nom. Vestrian24Bio 11:41, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Convert to set index. Page drafted below the redirect. - Eureka Lott 17:37, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
ROH
[edit]Propose redirect to Ring of Honor as primary topic. It gets the most pageviews out of those topics. Originalchampion (talk) 04:23, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Support. A quick Google Search reveals that this is probably the primary topic. Justjourney (talk | contribs) 04:32, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- How about Roh ? Justjourney (talk | contribs) 04:34, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Wrong venue. This seems to be a WP:Requested move discussion, not an RfD matter (ROH is a disambiguation page not a redirect]]). Thryduulf (talk) 08:31, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Support per nom. However, it is actually a wrong venue per Thryduulf, this discussion should be conducted using WP:RM instead. 103.111.102.118 (talk) 13:52, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Speedy procedural close "ROH" is not a redirect, it is a disambiguation page. You are using the wrong process. Please try again with WP:Requested moves -- 65.93.183.181 (talk) 04:10, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
JD Vance 2028 presidential campaign
[edit]- JD Vance 2028 presidential campaign → 2028 United States presidential election#JD Vance (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Implausible redirect; subject does not exist. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 02:15, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Agreed, You don't need a redirect if the subject in question doesn't exist. Fad8229 (talk) 04:25, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Servite et contribuere (talk) 08:44, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:CRYSTAL --Lenticel (talk) 02:07, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
Wikipod
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Hounds of Shadow
[edit]- Hounds of Shadow → Malazan Book of the Fallen#Cards and Tiles (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Delete. Not mentioned in target article or in any other article. Was redirected to High House Shadow. Mika1h (talk) 07:38, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- This was a redirect to the #Hounds section of High House Shadow before that was BLARd, and is also at RfD. Wait for its RfD to close. Jay 💬 08:57, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Fish or fishes
[edit]- Fish or fishes → Fish#"Fish" or "fishes" (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Fish versus fishes → Fish#"Fish" or "fishes" (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Fishes versus fish → Fish#"Fish" or "fishes" (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Fishes or fish → Fish#"Fish" or "fishes" (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Fish vs fishes → Fish#"Fish" or "fishes" (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Section is missing from the target article. In addition, there seems to be no explanation of the topic of these redirects, which seems to be the reason why the word "fish" or "fishes" is used for the plural form of the target subject. My first thought was to refine these redirect to Fish#Etymology, but such an explanation of these redirects' subject is not explained in that section either. Unless there are some kind of alternative target explaining the English plural form of the target subject, probably delete these. Steel1943 (talk) 19:17, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator follow-up/related comment: I just found Fishery#The term fish, a section that is obviously located in the wrong article and probably should be removed or moved to Fish. (At this time, I don't consider this a retargeting option.) Steel1943 (talk) 19:22, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- Restore mention at Fish and turn the old section link into an anchor. The first two sentences of special:permalink/1133745051 § "Fish" or "fishes" seem like they'd do the trick, to be added to the etymology section. Else delete. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe|🤷) 19:26, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Peter Pan Syndrome (anime)
[edit]- Peter Pan Syndrome (anime) → Mayu Sakai (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Mayu Sakai did write a manga titled Peter Pan Syndrome (manga) (which redirects to Mayu Sakai) but it was never an anime series, as those are two different mediums. A deletion is preferred. lullabying (talk) 20:18, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- Comment Peter Pan Syndrome (manga) is an article not a redirect, there is an external link titled "Peter Pan Syndrome (anime) at Anime News Network's encyclopedia" but the target page is about a manga, I'm guessing this is an error in our article but I haven't investigated. The redirect is a {{R from move}} - the target was at this title from creation in November 2005 until being moved in February 2006. Thryduulf (talk) 09:54, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- Oops, I remade the article after I posted this discussion. Sorry! lullabying (talk) 18:56, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete I just fixed the template so it doesn't say "anime". This series got no anime, so this redirect is misleading. Link20XX (talk) 14:07, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete The redirect to the author's page is inappropriate, and there is no evidence of the existence of an anime. If an anime were to be made, it would have been redirected to Peter Pan Syndrome (manga), but I see no anime based on this manga being made for the foreseeable future. Z. Patterson (talk) 15:03, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting as it's not clear what outcome the editors who commented are suggesting.
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Nien
[edit]The member is not that popular and she wouldnt be the primary topic for Nien. Theres also no dab page for Nien. drinks or coffee ~ ♪ 17:05, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
- Keep' The only other destination would be a dictionary definition for a foreign word, and 'not popular' is a judgement call, not a proper reason for deletion. Nathannah • 📮 20:49, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. This redirect obscures Search. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:01, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Viimsi JK (women)
[edit]No mention in target page. Pelmeen10 (talk) 21:34, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep It's the parent club. If not mentioned, than the target page should be improved irrelevant to the redirect --SuperJew (talk) 18:19, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
JK Tabasalu (women)
[edit]- JK Tabasalu (women) → JK Tabasalu (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
No mention in target page. Pelmeen10 (talk) 21:34, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep It's the parent club. If not mentioned, than the target page should be improved irrelevant to the redirect --SuperJew (talk) 18:19, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
Roman civiel war of 461
[edit]- Roman civiel war of 461 → Roman civil war of 461 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Unlikely typo, not navigationally useful. 204.111.137.20 (talk) 16:14, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Please delete Geoffrey F (talk) 19:10, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
Delete. The letter "e" isn't really close to "i" or "l" on the (QWERTY) keyboard. Justjourney (talk | contribs) 22:11, 4 July 2025 (UTC)- For some context, IP editor 75.104.64.169 contested a R3 speedy deletion of this redirect (here). Anyways, since the creator of this redirect, @Geoffrey F, said "
Please delete
", this redirect now meets G7 (I think), so speedy delete. Justjourney (talk | contribs) 22:17, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- For some context, IP editor 75.104.64.169 contested a R3 speedy deletion of this redirect (here). Anyways, since the creator of this redirect, @Geoffrey F, said "
may (anime character)
[edit]- May (anime character) → List of Pokémon anime characters#Other characters (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- May (Anime Character) → List of Pokémon anime characters#Other characters (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
the target's afd implies this will get deleted anyway, but this is worth asking about anyway. are there other anime characters named "may" that could be worth worrying about? i haven't found any in may (given name), but there's every chance that sia is just really undercooked consarn (grave) (obituary) 11:14, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment This is really not my topic area, but my search results include (in no particular order):
- Lucy-May of the Southern Rainbow, the main character is Lucy-May or Lucy or Lucy May. At absolute most that would be a see-also on a dab page, and probably not even that.
- Hand Maid May has a character called "Cyberdoll May". Would "May (anime character)" be a plausible search term for them? I have no idea.
- List of Keleido Star characters#May Wong. The most plausible target so far, at least in theory, in practice I have no idea.
- Pokémon: Battle Frontier seems to prominently feature a character called May, but the article doesn't make it clear to me if this is anime or not?
- May (given name) and List of Pokémon rivals#Brendan and May seem to contradict each other about whether May appears in the anime or not. Neither gives a source.
- Thryduulf (talk) 14:00, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- battle frontier is just season 9 of the nnime
- may is originally from ruby and sapphire, but appears in the anime as well (where she's not a silent protagonist). thus, she's also the same may from battle frontier consarn (grave) (obituary) 23:42, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete This is not the Pokemon Wikipedia. There are a tonne of characters named "May", "Mai", "Mei", etc from Anime -- 65.93.183.181 (talk) 04:13, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
Kyrgyz Republic national beach soccer team
[edit]- Kyrgyz Republic national beach soccer team → Kyrgyz Football Union (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Turkmenistan national beach soccer team → Football Federation of Turkmenistan (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Tajikistan national beach soccer team → Tajikistan Football Federation (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Mongolia national beach soccer team → Mongolian Football Federation (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Hong Kong national beach soccer team → Football Association of Hong Kong, China (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Nothing about beach soccer is mentioned in the target pages. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:29, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete all as per nom. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:54, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete all – Per nom. Svartner (talk) 09:51, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
University (Scandinavia)
[edit]This used to target to List of universities and colleges in Sweden, which is too specific. The current target, on the other hand, is uselessly broad and doesn't even discuss Scandinavia. Rusalkii (talk) 23:13, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. We don't have any articles for which this would be a useful search term. Thryduulf (talk) 15:00, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to University college (Scandinavia). Worgisbor (congregate) 17:09, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Retarget to University college (Scandinavia); better target. 🌳 Balsam Cottonwood (talk) ✝ 07:59, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
- Agreed, whilst university colleges are usually distinct from universities University college (Scandinavia) is pretty much dedicated to explaining the differences and similarities between 'university' and 'university college' in the Scandinavian context, making this a very suitable retarget. Katiedevi (talk) 15:40, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. University colleges are a different thing, so not an appropriate target. --Paul_012 (talk) 11:10, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
- It seems this was created to avoid a red link at Oslo and Akershus University College, which had been added without explanation by an IP in Special:Diff/879955703. I've reverted the change, so it's now properly orphaned. I stand by my !vote to delete, given its origin as a result of disruptive editing. --Paul_012 (talk) 07:07, 7 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Delete per above. —Compassionate727 (T·C) 18:05, 17 June 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to University college (Scandinavia) per Katiedevi. -- Tavix (talk) 16:36, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: One more try...
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- Retarget To University college (Scandinavia) per Katiedevi Servite et contribuere (talk) 22:36, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Oppose retarget to University college (Scandinavia) since University ≠ University college on the English Wikipedia. Steel1943 (talk) 20:19, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: There is still no clear consensus on whether to delete or retarget. There is consensus against keeping the current target, which persuades me against a "no consensus" close, which would retain the status quo. I considered a soft retarget, but multiple delete voters opposed the retarget. I believe relisting again is appropriate in this case.
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2027–2029 ICC World Test Championship
[edit]- 2027–2029 ICC World Test Championship → World Test Championship (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned at target, and it is honestly just WP:TOOSOON, even for a redirect. The current (As of time of nomination) ICC World Test Championship has just gotten underway. It can be re created when it is not too soon. Servite et contribuere (talk) 04:50, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and per the recent RFDs for hundreds of other redirects for future sports seasons to events articles that don't mention the future event. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:30, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and above. Vestrian24Bio 11:39, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
Beanie boo
[edit]- Beanie boo → Beanie Babies (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Beanie boos → Beanie Babies (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Beanie Boos → Beanie Babies (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Beanie Boos are NOT Beanie Babies.
Beanie Babies come in many forms, whereas Beanie Boos are specifically big-eyed, small plushies. Beanie Boos are mentioned multiple times by name on ENWP, but none of them (save for probably the company's page as a TM:R with possibilities?) seem like a good fit. User:Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 03:21, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Note: added Beanie boos and Beanie Boos to this nomination. - Eureka Lott 19:15, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
Trollpasta
[edit]- Trollpasta → Creepypasta#Trollpasta (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned in target. 🇺🇸Thegoofhere🇺🇸 (talk) 00:12, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. Since trollpasta is a notable genre of creepypasta I think it's worth keeping the redirect and adding a mention into the article instead. I've left a note on the talk page too. Happy to make the edit myself, just wanted to get your thoughts first since you nominated the RfD. Katiedevi (talk) 10:01, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
Mt Iron(Wanaka township)aerodrome
[edit]- Mt Iron(Wanaka township)aerodrome → Mount Iron Aerodrome (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
May be an WP:X3 candidate, but not sure due to the oddness of a conjugated non-disambiguator attached to the end of the disambiguator. Either way, unlikely search term. Steel1943 (talk) 17:42, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment This is a {{R from move}} that wouldn't be implausible if there were spaces. Either "Wanaka township" is an alternative name for the aerodrome or it's being used to disambiguate "Mt Iron" but given that Mt Iron/Mount Iron seem to be unambiguous (which I find mildly surprising), it's probably the former so not an X3 candidate. Thryduulf (talk) 18:02, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete 8 page views a year show the redirect isn't helpful for this odd title. Traumnovelle (talk) 21:15, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - Amalgamated formatting. Wanaka aerodrome etc. can be created and redirected there if necessary or desired. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 22:09, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
Flashing light of death
[edit]- Flashing light of death → PlayStation (console)#Flashing light of death (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned in the target article, leaving the connection between the target article and the redirect unclear. Steel1943 (talk) 17:31, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment this was a stubby article that was prodded with a proposal to merge into the main article, and that merge was carried out in March 2010 (see e.g. this revision) and the article redirected. WikiBlame is just timing out so I haven't found when or why it was removed, but it doesn't seem to have been discussed on the talk page. Thryduulf (talk) 18:12, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
Weak delete per nom. Thepharoah17 (talk) 22:35, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
St. Thomas More Church, Alakode(Meenmutty),Idukki,Kerala
[edit]- St. Thomas More Church, Alakode(Meenmutty),Idukki,Kerala → St. Thomas More Syro-Malabar Church, Alakode (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Possibly an WP:X3 candidate, but not sure, given the end of the redirect's title. Either way, as a search term, it is unlikely to be used in this form. Steel1943 (talk) 17:10, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
Fur cap
[edit]Ushankas are not the only type of fur caps by a long shot, didn't find anything focused on furry headgear. Paradoctor (talk) 16:45, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Speedy retarget. Good catch. I created List of fur headgear. --Altenmann >talk 17:30, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to List of fur headgear per Altenmann. Justjourney (talk | contribs) 19:58, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
Ludobot
[edit]Previously a stub (A ludobot is a type of artificial human companion: an entertainment robot, from Latin ludo (play) and bot (robot).
) that was redirected to entertainment robot in 2017, the term isn't used in that article, wasn't used in it at the time of the redirect creation, and I can't find any sources that use it. It reads like an original coinage by the user who first created the ludobot article in 2003. Belbury (talk) 14:39, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- keep Searchable term; add something to entertainment robot from the internets. --Altenmann >talk 17:42, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- I couldn't find any sources that would support the term being mentioned in entertainment robot, just a few primary sources for specific products and project names. Belbury (talk) 14:24, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
European area
[edit]- European area → European Economic Area (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This is ambiguous. Not all European states are in the EEA so I think it should be deleted. JuniperChill (talk) 10:55, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Disambg either by retargetting to Europe (disambiguation) or to a new set index titled something like (but ideally better than) List of supranational areas in Europe listing European Economic Area, European Union, European Communities, European Higher Education Area, Eurozone, Single Euro Payments Area, Free trade areas in Europe, European Common Aviation Area, European Broadcasting Area, Schengen Area, European Union Customs Union, Common Travel Area, Warsaw Pact (maybe better as a see also), NATO (ditto), Euratom, European single market and any others. Thryduulf (talk) 12:52, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Dabify Per Thryduulf. Servite et contribuere (talk) 04:53, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
EU market
[edit]- EU market → European Economic Area (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- EU Market → European Economic Area (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- European market → European Economic Area (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- European Market → European Economic Area (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
The EU and EEA are not interchangeable as the EEA includes all EU states plus Norway and Iceland. I think the first two should be redirected to the European Union and the others to European single market. Otherwise, it can be deleted. JuniperChill (talk) 10:45, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Disambig at European market. These are all plausible search terms for the current target and both the other targets identified (and possibly others). Thryduulf (talk) 12:55, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
Fardu
[edit]I'm not sure that this is a plausible misspelling (or alternative transliteration) of Fordo. It's only linked from Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/Hotlist of Mythology & Folklore/F, and is also an Arabic word for an Islamic religious obligation (wikt:fardu). Plantdrew (talk) 19:56, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to Fard. Lead mentions that 'fard' is spelt as 'fardu' or 'fardhu' in Malay which makes this page a more suitable target. Katiedevi (talk) 21:10, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Retarget to Fard per Jay. "Fard" is most plausible target for the redirect term. Once the redirect was retargeted, we can adding hatnote "Not to be confused with Fordo" (or "Not to be confused with Fard" for Fordo article) for Fat the top of the article. 103.111.102.118 (talk) 05:38, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- I did not vote. You should be crediting Katiedevi. Jay 💬 05:45, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
Bhakt
[edit]The redirect Bhakt was recently created, but the correct English transliteration of the original Sanskrit term is Bhakta, which already exists as a redirect to Bhakti. Deleting this redirect avoids confusion and maintains consistency with other properly transliterated Sanskrit terms used as page titles (e.g. Yoga, Raga, Dharma, Mantra etc.). Asteramellus (talk) 12:15, 21 June 2025 (UTC)
- [!vote superseded following creation of Bhakta, see below the relist] Strong oppose: Due to schwa deletion in Indo-Aryan languages, the last 'a' vowel is deleted in several Sanskrit-derived colloquial languages (including Hindi & Urdu). Hence, Yog, Rag, Raag (all disambiguation pages) provide a link to Yoga and Raga respectively. Similarly, Dharm is a redirect to Dharma. Likewise, Bhakt is a valid {{R from alternative transliteration}} to Bhakta, and is the WP:PTOPIC for the term, which in turn redirects to Bhakti and therefore is a valid {{R avoided double redirect}}. —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 14:11, 21 June 2025 (UTC)
Redirect to Bhakt (slang)#Origin. Having taken a look at Talk:Bhakti, from what I am understanding, the issue seems to be that the redirect ‘bhakt’ is spelt the same as ‘bhakt (slang)’ so it would make more sense for it to be redirected there. But I also get what CX is saying about ‘bhakt’ being associated with ‘bhakti’ because of the spelling. Makes most sense to me to redirect to Bhakt (slang)#Origin since it would take a reader to a place in the Bhakt (slang) article that makes space for both uses of the word (devotional and political). Having a redirect to Bhakt (slang) more broadly would not necessarily encompass both uses of the word and neither would a redirect to Bhakti.Katiedevi (talk) 22:54, 22 June 2025 (UTC)- I strongly oppose divorcing Bhakta and Bhakt from leading to the same target, they should always point to same destination. Either transliteration can used to refer to both the concepts depending on the speaker, and the extent of schwa deletion in their language/dialect. Some examples of "Bhakt" referring to "Bhakti" in news items: [19], [20], [21], [22], [23], [24], [25]. Some examples of "Bhakta" referring to "Bhakt (slang)": [26] (BJP-affiliated media; remove the tilde ~ from the link, which I used to bypass link blacklist), [27], [28], [29]. Personally, I am of the opinion that Bhakti would be the WP:PTOPIC for them, and thus, both should point there. —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 01:33, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- Pinging Hemant Dabral since he seems to have recently moved 'Bhakt' to 'Bhakt (slang)' so may have a useful rationale for what to do with this redirect. Katiedevi (talk) 23:01, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- If we have an article titled 'Bhakt (slang)' then it would be helpful to also have an article on the non-slang usage of the word. The concept 'bhakta' is notable enough to have its own article. So it might be worth deleting the redirect and creating an article for Bhakt. Katiedevi (talk) 23:19, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Katiedevi I was thinking about adding a disambiguous page just like Yog, Raag etc after looking at the links given by CX Zoom, but I think this suggestion makes sense - one suggestion would be to have the article for "Bhakta" (and Bhakt can redirect to Bhakta). I will start a talk on Bhakta page to discuss this further - if all are ok to discuss further there, I can withdraw this Redirect discussion. Asteramellus (talk) 01:34, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- If you wish to work to create an article on the specific topic of Bhakta, then I have no reservations against that. —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 01:38, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks. Based on what you have shared and what Katiedevi is suggesting, it seems it makes sense to go with creating article for Bhakta. I will go ahead and withdraw this redirect. Thanks for all the insights. Also want to share this link to see the usage of the two terms. Asteramellus (talk) 02:01, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- If you wish to work to create an article on the specific topic of Bhakta, then I have no reservations against that. —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 01:38, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Katiedevi I was thinking about adding a disambiguous page just like Yog, Raag etc after looking at the links given by CX Zoom, but I think this suggestion makes sense - one suggestion would be to have the article for "Bhakta" (and Bhakt can redirect to Bhakta). I will start a talk on Bhakta page to discuss this further - if all are ok to discuss further there, I can withdraw this Redirect discussion. Asteramellus (talk) 01:34, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- If we have an article titled 'Bhakt (slang)' then it would be helpful to also have an article on the non-slang usage of the word. The concept 'bhakta' is notable enough to have its own article. So it might be worth deleting the redirect and creating an article for Bhakt. Katiedevi (talk) 23:19, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- Withdrawing nom to continue discussion at Bhakta talk page. Asteramellus (talk) 02:04, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- Discussion cannot be closed to "withdrawn" due to Katiedevi's votes (2 votes that seem to contradict each other, and neither has been WP:REDACTED yet), which are not compatible with the status quo. @Asteramellus: I'd recommend finishing what has been started here. Steel1943 (talk) 17:12, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- Done - a good quality article on 'bhakta' that would allow a reader to get to both 'bhakti' and 'bhakt (slang)' seems like the best solution. Both CX Zoom and Asteramellus make valid points, a good article could satisfy both needs. Katiedevi (talk) 21:03, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Steel1943 Thanks. Yes, I will wait for the discussion to end. Asteramellus (talk) 10:43, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- Discussion cannot be closed to "withdrawn" due to Katiedevi's votes (2 votes that seem to contradict each other, and neither has been WP:REDACTED yet), which are not compatible with the status quo. @Asteramellus: I'd recommend finishing what has been started here. Steel1943 (talk) 17:12, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete I'm seeing a general consensus for creating a page for Bhakta. If/until there isn't that page I think the bhakt redirect should be deleted because it's too confusing to redirect 'bhakt' to Bhakti as bhakti is so broad compared to the specific slang usage. But if there is a Bhakta/Bhakt page, readers have a place to reach either usage, devotional or political, though it still leaves open whether to have separate pages or slang as a subsection.Swirlymarigold (talk) 20:31, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- Does not make any sense at all. The pejorative use derives from religious use, as in "devotion to god" -> "devotion to Modi", and both Bhakt/Bhakta have been attested to have been used for either meaning. —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 10:53, 26 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Asteramellus: You nominated the redirect for deletion, and later were in favour of withdrawing, implying you did not want the redirect to be deleted. Can we assume you want to no action on the redirect until the article on Bhakta is ready? Jay 💬 19:00, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Jay Yes, it seems no action on redirect. Asteramellus (talk) 11:09, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
Disambiguatebetween Bhakta (now created), Bhakti, and Bhakt (slang). -- Tavix (talk) 21:12, 2 July 2025 (UTC)- @Tavix sorry, just want to confirm - are you suggesting "Bhakt (disambiguous)" - that too I think would help avoid confusion. Asteramellus (talk) 00:31, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Okay with a retarget to Bhakta after reading the subsequent !vote. -- Tavix (talk) 11:08, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Tavix sorry, just want to confirm - are you suggesting "Bhakt (disambiguous)" - that too I think would help avoid confusion. Asteramellus (talk) 00:31, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to Bhakta as an {{R from alternative transliteration}}. We can use hatnotes to disambiguate, but the word's original usage is certainly primary over a modern slang; the latter use is rarely inferred outside of a specific political context. 9ninety (talk) 05:14, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts now that Bhakta exists?
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- Retarget: Now that Bhakta exists as a standalone article, I support retargeting to it as R from alternative transliteration, either with a hatnote to Bhakt (slang), or with body content briefly mentioning it. —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 20:43, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Agreed! Hatnote works perfectly as per WP:ONEOTHER. Katiedevi (talk) 10:05, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
po(l)ypifer
[edit]- Polypifer → Coral (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Poypifer → Coral (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
let's try this again!! "polypifer" refers to organisms formed from polyps, which is a list that only happens to include coral. there was a discussion about this before (see here), but it just kind of went nowhere. still no opinion on the plausibility of the second redirect consarn (grave) (obituary) 12:21, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- will add, though, that the term used to be mentioned in the current target... but only in passing as part of an image's caption. it's not mentioned there or in polyp (zoology) anymore ( °Д °;) consarn (grave) (obituary) 12:23, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
let's try this again!!
Why do you torture us so?- As I said in last year's discussion, I think Dawkins' usage of the word is most relevant. Coral#Anatomy is still my top pick, followed a retarget to polyp. Cremastra (talk) 17:08, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- admittedly, i kind of oppose retargeting to the dab, as it seems the term only refers to living organisms with that funny shape (y'know, hence polyp (zoology)). that aside, it seems this and other results related to richard dawkins have been recently overcome with slop of ai variety, which isn't related to this discussion, but is a bummer nonetheless :c consarn (grave) (obituary) 17:51, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Inurement
[edit]- Inurement → Desensitization (psychology) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Someone searching for the legal term Inurement will end up on the wrong page. Disambiguate? Not sure what the right page would be. Non-profit organization laws in the U.S.#Federal taxes? See https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/charitable-organizations/inurement-private-benefit-charitable-organizations Guy Macon Alternate Account (talk) 16:30, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to Non-profit organization laws in the U.S.#Federal taxes per Guy Macon. 'Inurement' or 'inure' do not occur in Desensitization (psychology) and the legal interpretation of 'inure' seems to be more prevalent. Katiedevi (talk) 20:17, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- Oh, look, it's a WP:NEELIX redirect. Inure also points to Desensitization (psychology), but it was a Wiktionary redirect before it was retargeted by Neelix. There's more information on Wikidata than there is here, so I think a Wiktionary redirect would be appropriate. Normally, I'd suggest consolidating the Wiktionary redirects at a single title, but wikt:inure and wikt:inurement are different enough to deserve individual redirects. That's a roundabout way of saying that I'd support a soft redirect of Inurement to wikt:inurement and a revert of Neelix's edit on Inure. - Eureka Lott 07:00, 26 June 2025 (UTC)
- Either of the above suggested retargets would be fine with me. If I had to choose I have a slight preference for the Wikipedia retarget over the Wiktionary retarget, but they are both good choices. --Guy Macon Alternate Account (talk) 05:31, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Redirect to wiktionary. "Fed taxs" is useless target: no explanation of the term. --Altenmann >talk 14:15, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Non-profit organization laws in the U.S.#Federal taxes says "The IRS may now levy a penalty on the organization for engaging in a transaction that resulted in a private inurement or private benefit." "Private inurement" is a redlink that should go to Wiktionary. --Guy Macon Alternate Account (talk) 21:45, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- "to wiktionary" -exactly; same with "Inurement". Because "inurement" is a very specific kind of benefit, that's why I wrote that "Fed taxs" is useless target. --Altenmann >talk 21:54, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Non-profit organization laws in the U.S.#Federal taxes says "The IRS may now levy a penalty on the organization for engaging in a transaction that resulted in a private inurement or private benefit." "Private inurement" is a redlink that should go to Wiktionary. --Guy Macon Alternate Account (talk) 21:45, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
Turkish massacre
[edit]- Turkish massacre → Armenian genocide (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Turkish genocide. There's also a relevant entry currently under discussion: Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2025_June_23#Turkish_genocide_(19th–20th_century) Bogazicili (talk) 20:19, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- Disambig between List of massacres in Turkey, List of massacres of Turkish people and any (list of) massacres committed by Turkish people not on either of those lists. Thryduulf (talk) 21:11, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Disambig clearly ambigous phrase with no evident main subject. --Altenmann >talk 14:10, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- To the closer, note also Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2025_July_1#Turkish_genocide_(19th–20th_century). Rusalkii (talk) 05:24, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
USFG
[edit]- USFG → Federal government of the United States (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Too ambiguous a redirect. Googling it turns up something way different. Thepharoah17 (talk) 04:17, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. On Wikipedia, the current target is very clearly the primary topic, with USD Follonica Gavorrano being the only other use (this should be linked in a hatnote). On Google the primary topic is the United States Faceters Guild, but I've not found a single mention of them on en.wp. Thryduulf (talk) 12:29, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- Disamiguate convert to disambig page. There being the USfedgov, UsFG (USD Follonica Gavorrano), and variant form USF&G; for a 3-entry dab page -- 65.93.183.249 (talk) 21:24, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- I didn't find USF&G in my searching, but that can be included in the hatnote as well, we shouldn't take people to a dab page when there is a clear primary topic. Thryduulf (talk) 22:22, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Keep. Of the topics presented, the Federal government of the United States is by far the most significant topic. Google results are a very poor way to try to determine primary topic (it's an easy trap to fall into!) and Thryduulf does a good job of highlighting why. -- Tavix (talk) 13:55, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
Feral gummint
[edit]- Feral gummint → Federal government of the United States (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Sadly, this is not the Onion. Thepharoah17 (talk) 04:19, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. It's a pointless redirect that nobody literate enough to use Wikipedia will need to use in order to find the page for the U.S. federal government. RandFreeman (talk) 08:26, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. This ain't the Hillbillypiedia, dadgummit. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:18, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- █████. It's nearly invisible. It was a lapse into mild humor.
- I half made up the term. I searched for it here, half-expecting to find it here. It wasn't, so I added it. I Googled today for "feral gummint" and I see 350 hits (only 1 from Wikipedia and no mirrors), most referring to the US, but some referring to other federal governments such as Australia and Canada. Example: "Oh great.. the Feral Gummint has a part to play to play in this.."
- I wonder how anyone noticed it. (Maybe browsing "What links here" from [Federal government of the United States], with "Hide links" enabled? Maybe browsing "User contributions for A876" with "Only show edits that are page creations" enabled, clicking "500" and then "Next 500" to reach my very first additions, and then finally noticing this the 30th one from the bottom?).
- I wonder how many people noticed it before someone sought to kill it off. (I have nominated even-more-pointless redirects from absurdly improbable misspellings for deletion, and somehow absurdly got turned down.) In 2007, Wikipedia in several ways "was" The Onion. No need to be sad about it. Often Wikipedia seems much better than it was; sometimes it seems hopeless.
- (I recall noticing a comical fictitious entry in the index of a college textbook. I think it said "Humor, sick" and it referred indirectly to the stylish new out-of-sequence info boxes that someone had forced the editors to tediously add to many pages.)
- ==See also==
- • Gummint (not "created" by me, but mentioned in my edit comment upon "creating" Feral gummint on 2007-08-17)
- • Gubmint (not "created" by me)
- Maybe redirect to Federation#Federal governments, copying Federal government?
- Maybe move all three to Wiktionary?? They are deliberate semi-fake vernacular uses. -A876 (talk) 22:19, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Berlin and Leipzig Railway
[edit]- Berlin and Leipzig Railway → History of rail transport in Germany#Epoch 0 (1835-1870) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Delete Broken anchor, redirect title is not mentioned in the target article Pieceofmetalwork (talk) 12:38, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to Berlin-Anhalt Railway Company. I think this is what the redirect is referring to. There is a mention of it in Berlin–Halle railway#History but I think Berlin-Anhalt Railway Company is the better option for the redirect. Katiedevi (talk) 20:02, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete the above target suggested is bad because there's no mention; there's not really a substantially helpful mention anywhere. Cremastra (talk) 16:28, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- I understand where you're coming from about the lack of an explicit mention. The fact that the Anhalt railway travelled from Berlin to Leipzig does appear in Berlin-Anhalt Railway Company, just not the exact phrase 'Berlin and Leipzig Railway'. I wouldn't say this makes the target 'bad'. Redirects are cheap and so I prefer to be charitable with them. Someone who is searching for a railway between Berlin and Leipzig could likely find what they're looking for within Berlin-Anhalt Railway Company. The retarget also doesn't seem to cause any confusion or harm in this case. Katiedevi (talk) 10:02, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- delete . No such thing. --Altenmann >talk 14:08, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
Earl Hilliard Jr.
[edit]- Earl Hilliard Jr. → Earl Hilliard Sr. (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Son of a former representative who was a state representative himself. I think this is better as a red link to encourage creation Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 19:01, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- I've been following because I am curious about the outcome. Seems a reasonable redirect to me. No one is precluded from starting an entry on the subject (as I did in draftspace). Whether leaving something as a redlink is superior encouragement to create the article rather than linking to an article where the subject is noted is an interesting question. But our goal is to serve our readers as best we can with what info we have. FloridaArmy (talk) 17:50, 26 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Keep. Mentioned in the target article. FloridaArmy's actions are proof that deleting a redirect is not required to encourage an editor to create an article. A red link could assist in garnering more attention, but I don't think the sacrifice of a good and helpful redirect is worth it. Katiedevi (talk) 10:17, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
Flip (geometry)
[edit]- Flip (geometry) → Reflection (mathematics) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
this could easily refer to Flip (mathematics). this should be retargeted or turned into a disambiguation page. ―Howard • 🌽33 17:01, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete and change hatnote in Flip (mathematics) to Reflection (mathematics). There is already a disambiguation page Flip which includes both pages. Katiedevi (talk) 22:03, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to Flip (disambiguation)#Mathematics and statistics as an WP:INCOMPDAB. Flip (mathematics) also suffers from that problem and should be moved back to Flip (algebraic geometry), with Flip (mathematics) also retargeted to the disambiguation. -- Tavix (talk) 21:21, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 9ninety (talk) 05:19, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Agree with Tavix. Elestrophe (talk) 07:46, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget and move as Tavix suggests. Thryduulf (talk) 12:57, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- I too agree with Tavix. Adumbrativus (talk) 06:59, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to dab and change hatnote to point to the dab. The first thing I would think this would mean is a move in a flip graph, so we have at least three unrelated meanings. —David Eppstein (talk) 07:37, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- PS I also agree with Taxiv about moving Flip (mathematics) to Flip (algebraic geometry), and retargeting Flip (mathematics) to the same dab. —David Eppstein (talk) 19:50, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to dab. because ambiguous. --Altenmann >talk 13:38, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
Gender stereotypes
[edit]- American gender stereotypes → Sexism#American gender stereotypes (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Stereotypes of women → Gender role#Gender stereotypes (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Stereotypes of men → Gender role#Gender stereotypes (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
These should probably all have the same target. However, American gender stereotypes isn’t mentioned at either target so maybe it should be deleted. Thepharoah17 (talk) 05:18, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- delete american, keep the other two. --Altenmann >talk 13:44, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
Aa Bb Cc Dd Ee Ff Gg Hh Ii Jj Kk Ll Mm Nn Oo Pp Qq Rr Ss Tt Uu Vv Ww Xx Yy Zz
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Kyle Dudek
[edit]- Kyle Dudek → Kyle Christopher Dudek (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Nominating a newly created redirect whose target is currently at AfD. Safiel (talk) 04:17, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep – no reason given for deletion, and this looks like a perfectly reasonable redirect. If and when the target is deleted, the redirect will automatically be deleted with it; there's no need to delete it at RfD in that case. jlwoodwa (talk) 07:54, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per Jlwoodwa. While the target exists this is a good redirect, if it is deleted the redirect will be speedily deleted under WP:CSD#G8. Thryduulf (talk) 13:00, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per above. drinks or coffee ᶻ 𝗓 𐰁 ₍ᐢ. .ᐢ₎ 14:03, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete to make way for the eventual move of the current GFDL-compliant draft to mainspace. BD2412 T 16:26, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
Jordan Pratt
[edit]- Jordan Pratt → Jordan Emery Pratt (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Nominating a newly created redirect whose target is currently at AfD. Safiel (talk) 04:16, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep – no reason given for deletion, and this looks like a perfectly reasonable redirect. If and when the target is deleted, the redirect will automatically be deleted with it; there's no need to delete it at RfD in that case. jlwoodwa (talk) 07:55, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per Jlwoodwa. While the target exists this is a good redirect, if it is deleted the redirect will be speedily deleted under WP:CSD#G8. Thryduulf (talk) 13:02, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete to make way for the eventual move of the current GFDL-compliant draft to mainspace. BD2412 T 16:27, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
Ed Artau
[edit]Nominating a newly created redirect whose target is currently at AfD. Safiel (talk) 04:15, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep – no reason given for deletion, and this looks like a perfectly reasonable redirect. If and when the target is deleted, the redirect will automatically be deleted with it; there's no need to delete it at RfD in that case. jlwoodwa (talk) 07:55, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per Jlwoodwa. While the target exists this is a good redirect, if it is deleted the redirect will be speedily deleted under WP:CSD#G8. Thryduulf (talk) 13:02, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete to make way for the eventual move of the current GFDL-compliant draft to mainspace. BD2412 T 16:27, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
Covid deaths
[edit]- Covid deaths → Template:COVID-19 pandemic data (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Seems like an incorrect cross namespace redirect. COVID-19 deaths might be a better target but coronavirus isn’t necessarily COVID-19 so maybe deleting it would be better. Thepharoah17 (talk) 03:58, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget Covid redirects to COVID-19, so Covid deaths should redirect to COVID-19 deaths. It seems to get an average of ~30 pageviews per month. 9ninety (talk) 06:10, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment Death due to coronavirus disease was deleted at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 June 13#Death due to coronavirus disease, although neither the current target nor COVID-19 deaths were considered in that discussion. Thryduulf (talk) 13:08, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to COVID-19 pandemic deaths. The clear primary topic of "Covid" at this point is COVID-19. BD2412 T 16:31, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to COVID-19 deaths (disambiguation page). I agree with 9ninety, and the redirect in question is "Covid deaths", not "Coronavirus deaths", which is another disambiguation page that lists two articles on COVID-19 deaths. I actually might nominate Coronavirus deaths for deletion after this redirect discussion finishes (if I remember to). Justjourney (talk | contribs) 21:44, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- I've redirected Coronavirus deaths to COVID-19 deaths as it was entirely redundant. 9ninety (talk) 16:59, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
Stereotypes of homosexuals
[edit]- Stereotypes of homosexuals → Societal attitudes toward homosexuality#Stereotypes (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Current target currently has no mention of redirect so I suggest LGBTQ stereotypes as maybe a better target. Thepharoah17 (talk) 03:52, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget per nom. Thryduulf (talk) 13:10, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- retarget per nom. drinks or coffee ᶻ 𝗓 𐰁 ₍ᐢ. .ᐢ₎ 14:04, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
Stereotypes of Brazilian Americans
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Stereotypes of Canadians
[edit]- Stereotypes of Canadians → Culture of Canada (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
No mention in target Thepharoah17 (talk) 02:58, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Please retain to preserve the page history and talk page; there is potential for recreating as an article. – Reidgreg (talk) 06:29, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- If decision is to delete, please ping me so I can move it to my userspace instead. – Reidgreg (talk) 06:34, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Just FYI all topics that the article did cover are in the target article with much better sources. To achieve a more neutral text we folded the info into the narrative overall (apparent if anyone actually reads the original and target article) as per WP:INDISCRIMINATE. If working on draft- target page has the better sources. Moxy🍁 07:03, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- If decision is to delete, please ping me so I can move it to my userspace instead. – Reidgreg (talk) 06:34, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
List of never before seen Shen Gong Wu
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Terrestrial species
[edit]- Terrestrial species → Terrestrial animal (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Could also refer to terrestrial plant. Either delete or create a SIA/DAB of all "terrestrial x" articles (there's terrestrial crab and terrestrial mollusc and probably a few more). Cremastra (talk) 00:07, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- DAB would work here - Terrestrial species (disambiguation) or just Terrestrial species Asteramellus (talk) 00:50, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Disambig per above. Thryduulf (talk) 13:10, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- SNOWBALL DAB --Altenmann >talk 14:05, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
Definition of is
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Media personalities
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Maggie Robertson
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Te cunosc de undeva!(season 2)
[edit]- Te cunosc de undeva!(season 2) → Te cunosc de undeva!#Season 2 (2012) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Redirect title qualifies for WP:X3 speedy deletion, but the redirect has a bit of edit history in it ... though the history as an article existed for 2 days prior to being subject to a WP:BLAR pointing towards its correctly-spaced title variant, Te cunosc de undeva! (season 2) (now a redirect). Steel1943 (talk) 18:37, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment - If the history needs retaining, it could always be moved without a redirect to the title with proper spacing. However, it still would not be a proper redirect within our house disambiguation style (it is not a cardinal type of 'second season'). Would likely lean delete, but also okay with the aforementioned move to improve it. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 22:03, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
Leo (Spectrobes)
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Hunting accident
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SOIL
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Typhoon 0801
[edit] Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 July 9#Typhoon 0801
Team Rocket Motto
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unmentioned and mostly minor and/or unnotable pokémon characters (part 1 again somehow)
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Alex Unknown
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Germany national kabaddi team
[edit]- Germany national kabaddi team → Kabaddi World Cup (World Kabaddi)#Team results (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
The German team is not mentioned anywhere in the target page. It seems to have been at the time the page was created, as TBD, but was removed in this edit when the results came in, I assume because they didn't place? Rusalkii (talk) 05:45, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to International Kabaddi Federation where the German team is mentioned in the list of non-member countries who have a national team. Katiedevi (talk) 10:08, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- I removed it because Germany was no longer participating in the event. —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 19:15, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- I'm of the opinion to delete it because I do not know for certain if Germany does have a kabaddi team. It is not affiliated to the IKF, and the "non-member countries with teams" does not cite a source. —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 19:15, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Loyal luz has created an article; so close as articlified. There are issues, but that may be taken up at the talk page. The article says Germany is affiliated to the International Kabaddi Federation, citing a possible11.com website, but the official website as per International Kabaddi Federation does not mention Germany as a member. The "non-member" section at International Kabaddi Federation also does not make sense, and needs to go. Jay 💬 07:29, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
MediaTek Camera Application
[edit] Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 July 9#MediaTek Camera Application
Battle off the Lizard
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Prurience
[edit]I think this adjective and its noun for refer to a general concept, not specifically a topic in American law and a musician. 96.89.123.89 (talk) 01:54, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- There's also prurient interest, which currently redirects to obscenity. Caeciliusinhorto-public (talk) 11:22, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget Prurience → Obscenity and Keep Prurient. All three instances of prurience in articles used that term in a a general sense or, to the extent it refers to legal considerations, it is not specific to the Miller test. Thus, obscenity is a more appropriate target and does discuss legal aspects in the US and many other countries. Prurient has dozens of links in article space and while I did not check them all, every one I spot-checked appeared to refer to the musician, whose stage name Prurient is listed as a bolded name in the article lead. Given that there is no apparent competition for this title and it is otherwise a dictionary word, the primary redirect Prurient appears well placed. The musician article was previously titled Prurient and was moved in 2016 (Special:Diff/722684294) apparently without controversy. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 01:15, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
List of terms associated with the color brown
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Iran–United States war
[edit] Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 July 9#Iran–United States war
List of terms associated with the color green
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Donald Trump (Wikipedia article)
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Unlinked redirects in Category:Redirects from statistical redirects
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Philosophy (Wikipedia article)
[edit]- Philosophy (Wikipedia article) → Wikipedia philosophy phenomenon (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
WP does not host articles about its articles. This article has been moved to reflect its actual topic, and there should not be a redirect suggesting something else. (See Talk:Wikipedia_philosophy_phenomenon#WP:GNG_etc for discussion.) Patrick 🐈⬛ (talk) 17:32, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. Target subject is not about a type of article (though the target article is about a subject ... like all articles are). Steel1943 (talk) 17:48, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- Weak keep. Fairly harmless. --cheesewhisk3rs (pester) 17:54, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- Disagree, considering we have an article titled Philosophy. But even then, my "subject is not about a type of article" concern applies to Philosophy as well. Steel1943 (talk) 19:02, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- I'm confused. "Philosophy", here, is not being used (rightly or wrongly) to describe a type or genre of article, but rather to denote the single, unique article of that name. Patrick 🐈⬛ (talk) 19:25, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- ...Huh? That was not clear. Steel1943 (talk) 19:38, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- I don't understand what you mean by "subject is not about a type of article". Where is anyone suggesting that we're talking about a "type" of article? What we have are two specific articles: one is a self-standing V-1 article about the discipline of philosophy, and the other is about a Wikipedia phenomenon directly related to that article. Patrick 🐈⬛ (talk) 19:55, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- I'm referring to the disambiguator of the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 00:30, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Patrick Welsh my understanding is that Steel is saying that in their view "Philosophy (Wikipedia article)" should lead to an article about something called "philosophy" that has the nature "Wikipedia article" or about class of things called "Philosophy" that are a type of Wikipedia article. For example Togo (dog) is an article about a subject called "Togo" that has the nature "dog", and Newfoundland (dog) leads to an article about a class of things called "Newfoundland" that are a type of dog. In this case, that would mean "Philosophy (Wikipedia article)" should be an article about Wikipedia's "Philosophy" article or about a class of things called "Philosophy" that are a type of Wikipedia article. Thryduulf (talk) 08:39, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks! I was concerned the !vote might be based on a misunderstanding, but that makes sense. Cheers, Patrick 🐈⬛ (talk) 21:25, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- Are you confused because you don't have the context for the redirect? It is an unusual case. The redirect is from when the page was named "Philosophy (Wikipedia article)". I'm not at all certain but I think you're interpreting it as if the name is talking about articles related to the topic of philosophy, but it isn't. It was an article about the Wikipedia article. (It was moved because the page was more about the unusual first links ending up there than the article itself.) --cheesewhisk3rs (pester) 21:08, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- Nope, no confusion. My vote stands. Steel1943 (talk) 00:27, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- I don't understand what you mean by "subject is not about a type of article". Where is anyone suggesting that we're talking about a "type" of article? What we have are two specific articles: one is a self-standing V-1 article about the discipline of philosophy, and the other is about a Wikipedia phenomenon directly related to that article. Patrick 🐈⬛ (talk) 19:55, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- ...Huh? That was not clear. Steel1943 (talk) 19:38, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- I'm confused. "Philosophy", here, is not being used (rightly or wrongly) to describe a type or genre of article, but rather to denote the single, unique article of that name. Patrick 🐈⬛ (talk) 19:25, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- Disagree, considering we have an article titled Philosophy. But even then, my "subject is not about a type of article" concern applies to Philosophy as well. Steel1943 (talk) 19:02, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- Weak keep. The target is sort-of about the Wikipedia Philosophy article, and while it's not the most plausible search term it's not an implausible one, and someone desiring the actual philosophy article is only a single click away. Thryduulf (talk) 08:42, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- What's next? An article about the article about the article about the article about the article about the article... ? Steel1943 (talk) 16:28, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
That's an improbable slippery slope argument. An article on the article on the article would need at least 2 reliable sources documenting it to pass GNG - it took years for "Philosophy" to get to this point, so this won't realistically happen for another article, especially such a niche one. If the article(s) are still created, which is unlikely, they would certainly almost immediately be AfD'd for not passing GNG. --cheesewhisk3rs ≽^•⩊•^≼ ∫ (pester) 19:24, 2 July 2025 (UTC)- ...Small text = joke. Steel1943 (talk) 00:26, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry, will keep in mind. --cheesewhisk3rs ≽^•⩊•^≼ ∫ (pester) 07:21, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- ...Small text = joke. Steel1943 (talk) 00:26, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Steel1943 and others, anyone knows if there's an essay or something on WP-articles about WP-articles, apart from perhaps WP:NAVELGAZING? I know Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2006_October_20#Elephant_(wikipedia_article) existed once. Asian News International vs. Wikimedia Foundation is an interesting case, but not that many WP-articles has been mentioned in a Supreme Court. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:24, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- The deletion of "Elephant (wikipedia article)" was caused by it already being covered elsewhere, so I don't think it's a useful example of whether Wikipedia articles should have Wikipedia articles. (The other reason left by the nominator was that it was self-referential, which IMO could've easily been fixed but nobody thought of doing that). --cheesewhisk3rs ≽^•⩊•^≼ ∫ (pester) 14:03, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- If a Wikipedia article meets the GNG then we should have content about it (either a stand-alone article or coverage on a broader article), anything else would be biased. We do have Wikipedia Seigenthaler biography incident, Wikipedia Star Trek Into Darkness debate and a few similar articles. Thryduulf (talk) 15:05, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- I have found, on occasion, that if a WP-article is mentioned in media, editors sometimes give such reports main-space room out of WP:PROPORTION. Which isn't that surprising, Wikipedians tend to be a bit passionate about Wikipedia. I note that, for example, the WP-articles Donna Strickland and Recession has had a lot of media-coverage, but this isn't mentioned in the WP-articles, which I think is reasonable. But Strickland is mentioned at Criticism_of_Wikipedia#Notability_of_article_topics, and that's fair. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:18, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- "the WP-articles Donna Strickland and Recession has had a lot of media-coverage, but this isn't mentioned in the WP-articles"
- If I'm understanding this correctly, it absolutely should not be as that would be a self-reference. If a Wikipedia article has media coverage, this shouldn't be mentioned in the article itself, so mentioning it on a page about Wikipedia or creating a page for it (only if it passes GNG) is reasonable. --cheesewhisk3rs ≽^•⩊•^≼ ∫ (pester) 19:01, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
If I'm understanding this correctly, it absolutely should not be as that would be a self-reference
it gets tricky, but if the topic is notable enough for a mention but not a whole article then the subject article might be the best place for it. For example I recall reading an article where there was 1-2 sentences about how the subject reacted to seeing something wrong on their article but beyond it possibly being a radio presenter I can't remember enough to find it again. Thryduulf (talk) 20:17, 3 July 2025 (UTC)- We do sometimes mention "WP-kerfuffle" in the articles, it depends on whatever (WP:DUE/WP:PROPORTION hopefully). Clarice Phelps is one example, and Talk:Emily_St._John_Mandel#RFC:_attempt_to_correct_the_Wikipedia_article is an example when editors decided "let's not include this." Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:12, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- I agree, there's no reason to discriminate against Wikipedia articles just because it would be written on Wikipedia. (Though a lot of the time, due to the changing nature of Wikipedia, making an article on an article would be more complicated than an article on, like in this example, the article's properties. It would be hard to update an article on an article which, if it passes GNG, probably has a lot of edit activity and changes quite frequently. Trying to update the article on the article would be difficult without violating WP:NOR, although even if it's a challenge, that doesn't mean it shouldn't be done - per NPOV.) --cheesewhisk3rs ≽^•⩊•^≼ ∫ (pester) 18:56, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- I have found, on occasion, that if a WP-article is mentioned in media, editors sometimes give such reports main-space room out of WP:PROPORTION. Which isn't that surprising, Wikipedians tend to be a bit passionate about Wikipedia. I note that, for example, the WP-articles Donna Strickland and Recession has had a lot of media-coverage, but this isn't mentioned in the WP-articles, which I think is reasonable. But Strickland is mentioned at Criticism_of_Wikipedia#Notability_of_article_topics, and that's fair. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:18, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- If a Wikipedia article meets the GNG then we should have content about it (either a stand-alone article or coverage on a broader article), anything else would be biased. We do have Wikipedia Seigenthaler biography incident, Wikipedia Star Trek Into Darkness debate and a few similar articles. Thryduulf (talk) 15:05, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- The deletion of "Elephant (wikipedia article)" was caused by it already being covered elsewhere, so I don't think it's a useful example of whether Wikipedia articles should have Wikipedia articles. (The other reason left by the nominator was that it was self-referential, which IMO could've easily been fixed but nobody thought of doing that). --cheesewhisk3rs ≽^•⩊•^≼ ∫ (pester) 14:03, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- We do have List of lists of lists. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:59, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- What's next? An article about the article about the article about the article about the article about the article... ? Steel1943 (talk) 16:28, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- Weak keep per Thryduulf. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:59, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- Weak keep per WP:UNPANDORA and the above. I agree we should focus on the plausibility of the redirect, and as Thryduulf noted its reasonable that someone searching for Philosophy the article is looking for information on the phenomenon. — 🪫Volatile 📲T | ⌨️C 22:19, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- Just to add on, there's also an argument to be made based on WP:RFD#KEEP 1:
The act of renaming is useful page history, and even more so if there has been discussion on the page name.
— 🪫Volatile 📲T | ⌨️C 06:14, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Just to add on, there's also an argument to be made based on WP:RFD#KEEP 1:
- Delete. I agree with Steel1943 that the disambiguator does not describe the target. If a redirect is to be made with a disambiguator, it ought to at least be accurate. --Bsherr (talk) 15:01, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
Aruba national cricket team & others
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Deepak Punia (rugby union)
[edit]- Deepak Punia (rugby union) → India men's national rugby sevens team (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned at target. Unless someone can add a source for it or add this player on the squad list at the squad section, just delete unless the player is actually mentioned. Servite et contribuere (talk) 12:55, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to Delhi Redz. Deepak Punia currently plays for the Delhi Redz and his name appears in the article. Katiedevi (talk) 20:26, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete people change or leave teams all the time, so redirecting to the team will become meaningless if/when he leaves that team, as he'll no longer be mentioned there. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:30, 26 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943 (talk) 17:29, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to 2025 Rugby Premier League#Squads where his mention should remain longer than at Delhi Redz. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:47, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
Turkish genocide (19th–20th century)
[edit]- Turkish genocide (19th–20th century) → Persecution of Muslims during the Ottoman contraction (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Turkish genocide (1820–1920) → Persecution of Muslims during the Ottoman contraction (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Genocide of Turkish people → Persecution of Muslims during the Ottoman contraction (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Turkish genocide; the concerns there do not appear to have been addressed by adding a timestamp. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:01, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- There's also Turkish genocide (1820–1920) and Genocide of Turkish people from the same creator, might be worth bundling? 86.23.87.130 (talk) 22:53, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- Added those. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:42, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- Also listed Turkish massacre. Maybe all of these should be considered together. Bogazicili (talk) 20:28, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- At Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 June 24#Turkish massacre I recommend disambiguating that term. If that gains consensus then redirecting this to it will probably be the most helpful - this could refer to genocide of Turks or genocide by Turks. Thryduulf (talk) 21:17, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943 (talk) 17:27, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete There are no reliable sources that will actually claim there was a genocide of Turks happening for over a century. This is fringe historical negationism, generally only claimed by deniers of the Armenian/Greek/Assyrian genocides. Claiming that Turks were the real victims of genocide is a form of Armenian/Greek/Assyrian genocide denial (see Iğdır Genocide Memorial and Museum), as thus doesn't belong on Wikipedia. Therefore, these titles are not appropriate, as they were titled by a Wikipedia user last month, not by credible historians. KhndzorUtogh (talk) 05:59, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
Sleeping dictionary
[edit]- Sleeping dictionary → The Sleeping Dictionary (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Per Wiktionary, a sleeping dictionary is "a sexual partner who also serves as a native informant or language teacher for a person visiting the region from outside". That is a general concept that probably could be explored in a Wikipedia article of its own, either of that title or something broad-concept like travel and sex. As such, I think WP:RETURNTORED applies. A redirect to Wiktionary would also be acceptable. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe|🤷) 14:10, 10 June 2025 (UTC)
- Soft redirect to that Wiktionary entry/weak keep drinks or coffee ~ ♪ 16:11, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
- Disambiguate between wikt:sleeping dictionary, The Sleeping Dictionary, and The Sleeping Dictionary (novel) per WP:PRIMARYRED. jlwoodwa (talk) 16:13, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
- Drafted a dab at the redirect. Jay 💬 03:16, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Rusalkii (talk) 19:40, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- Disambiguate per Jay's draft Katiedevi (talk) 21:34, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- The dab draft doesn't make any sense; since The Sleeping Dictionary is primary over The Sleeping Dictionary (novel) for the term "The Sleeping Dictionary" surely it's also primary for "sleeping dictionary" which makes the disambiguation page void. I think either delete or retarget to Wiktionary convey what is meant to be accomplished here better. * Pppery * it has begun... 20:30, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943 (talk) 17:19, 1 July 2025 (UTC)- I disown my draft, per Pppery. Redirect to Wiktionary. Jay 💬 14:29, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
Mythical and miracle power of pyramids
[edit]- Mythical and miracle power of pyramids → Pyramid (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Was originally it’s own page, now doesn’t have much use as a page, unless maybe a redirect to Pyramid power. Thepharoah17 (talk) 17:46, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Pyramid power per Thepharoah. Katiedevi (talk) 21:40, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, overly specific and implausible search term. The history was merely an unsourced personal essay-type thing, of no need to keep. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 06:28, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Delete per IP35. Jay 💬 07:59, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
Spanking pyramid
[edit]- Spanking pyramid → Pyramid#human pyramid (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Paddling pyramid → Pyramid#human pyramid (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Paddle pyramid → Pyramid#real pyramids - See also (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
The current target isn’t correct. Maybe Spanking paddle is supposed to be the correct target. But "pyramid" is only mentioned once in the entire article so maybe it isn't. Thepharoah17 (talk) 17:35, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget all three to Spanking paddle#Other play and traditions. This would likely be what the reader is looking for. Katiedevi (talk) 21:46, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. The above suggested target mentions it once in passing, but it's unsourced and provides no explanation of what it actually is, so is of no use to a reader. God, I'm glad we have that information there about who's been spanked on Howard Stern's show 🙄 35.139.154.158 (talk) 03:36, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943 (talk) 17:19, 1 July 2025 (UTC)- I have added a {{citation needed}} at Spanking paddle. Even the Howard Stern source leads to a cover of Playboy where no spanking is demonstrated. Retarget to Human pyramid. Jay 💬 18:40, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
Solgier
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Wikipedia:Blocklog
[edit]- Wikipedia:Blocklog → Special:Log/block (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Redirect to a special page, therefore the redirect doesn't actually work (it's more like a soft redirect). I don't know if converting into a soft redirect using {{Soft redirect}}, or retarget to something like Help:Log, which describes this process. Or even retarget to the historical page Wikipedia:Historical archive/Logs/Block log, to match WP:Block log. Justjourney (talk | contribs) 02:19, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
- Technical comment If everyone thinks the current target is good, i.e. we want people searching for "WP:Blocklog" to end up at the block log special page, the technical setup shouldn't be a reason to do anything except replace the current coding with the proper {{Soft redirect}} coding. Nyttend (talk) 05:04, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
- Convert to soft redirect. This has existed since 2004, so I'd avoid messing too much with it. --Paul_012 (talk) 11:56, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
Convert to a soft redirect per above. Thryduulf (talk) 13:06, 8 June 2025 (UTC)- Retarget to Wikipedia:Historical archive/Logs/Block log (as a {{R avoided double redirect}} of Wikipedia:Block log), which contains links to the current block log and also the various historical block logs from prior to 23 December 2004. I don't see a reason why the spaced and unspaced titles should lead to different targets. Thryduulf (talk) 13:09, 8 June 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to Wikipedia:Historical archive/Logs/Block log per Thryduulf. * Pppery * it has begun... 14:24, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 15:28, 21 June 2025 (UTC) - @Jay: Why was this relisted? I would have closed is as retarget, which three of the four participants have agreed to. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:39, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
- Who is the third, after you and Thryduulf? Jay 💬 14:30, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- Justjourney, in the first post. Thryduulf (talk) 14:45, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- Then, won't that be three of the five? Jay 💬 18:43, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- I was assuming that they (the OP) were included in Jay's count of 4 but Nyttend's "technical comment" not expressing an opinion wasn't. Thryduulf (talk) 18:48, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- Honestly, when I opened the discussion, I wasn't really sure what target to retarget to (as you see above, I was kind of on the fence with the suggested targets). So I don't know if I would've closed this or not (I don't close XFDs).
- Additional comment: WP:Movelog targets Special:Log/move, like this one. In this case, WP:Move log also targets the same page. I may simply convert these into soft redirects, unless someone has a better option for these redirects. Justjourney (talk | contribs) 19:44, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- I also couldn't find a historical archive for the move log. Justjourney (talk | contribs) 19:45, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- I was assuming that they (the OP) were included in Jay's count of 4 but Nyttend's "technical comment" not expressing an opinion wasn't. Thryduulf (talk) 18:48, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- Then, won't that be three of the five? Jay 💬 18:43, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- Justjourney, in the first post. Thryduulf (talk) 14:45, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- I don't know about that: If I were closing this discussion, I would have interpreted the nominator's statement as a "do not keep" vote since their stance didn't commit on any one option. Steel1943 (talk) 16:41, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- Who is the third, after you and Thryduulf? Jay 💬 14:30, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. Someone searching this would be wanting the current blocklog and not a historical archive. I have no issue with the redirect being a (pseudo-)soft redirect, which also has the benefit of the ability to add a hatnote to the historical archive if desired. -- Tavix (talk) 17:11, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- The point is that the historical archive page already functions as a soft redirect (in addition to including extra content). * Pppery * it has begun... 04:12, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
First fire
[edit]- First fire → Furnace#First fire (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- First Fire → Junta (game) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] (Bundled. -- Tavix (talk) 17:15, 1 July 2025 (UTC))
Exists from a previous PROD but the target is now a DAB - and the phrase doesn't appear in any of the articles Ivey (talk - contribs) 16:29, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comment. Assuming the PRODed content was accurate (it was unreferenced but plausible, although mostly how-to) then this is a specific term in relation to furnaces (google suggests it isn't limited to any one type). My first thought was "origin of fire", searching that phrase led me to The Origin of Fire, which is a 1902 Finnish cantata and I would be very surprised to land there after using this search term! Control of fire by early humans is closer to what I was thinking of but I'm not certain that's close enough? It wouldn't help people who are looking for the usage in relation to furnaces, but it is linked as "earliest fire" on Template:Human timeline and it is the primary topic when I google "first fire" -Wikipedia when I exclude partial title matches of (probably non-notable) businesses and histories of fire brigades. Thryduulf (talk) 02:18, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- Another thought I just had was when earth's atmosphere could first support (sustained) fire (I vaguely recall a PBS Eons or SciShow episode about this). Google results for my vague query string suggest this was the result of the Great Oxidation Event but that article does not include the word "fire" and nor does Neoproterozoic oxygenation event linked in the hatnote. I haven't been able to think what we would title an article about this topic, and my vague searches are just leading me to articles about the (far) future - the exact opposite of what I'm looking for. Thryduulf (talk) 02:38, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- Fossil record of fire would be a decent article for that other thought. * Pppery * it has begun... 02:50, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- Indeed it would, thank you. Looking at this with (slightly) more awake eyes I'm thinking the best option here is either a set index/disambig or a redirect to Control of fire by early humans with hatnotes to Fossil record of fire and something related to the furnace/kiln sense if we have any relevant content. I'm about to add a hatnote from the former to the latter based on the History of fire redirect. Thryduulf (talk) 10:16, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- Fossil record of fire would be a decent article for that other thought. * Pppery * it has begun... 02:50, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- Another thought I just had was when earth's atmosphere could first support (sustained) fire (I vaguely recall a PBS Eons or SciShow episode about this). Google results for my vague query string suggest this was the result of the Great Oxidation Event but that article does not include the word "fire" and nor does Neoproterozoic oxygenation event linked in the hatnote. I haven't been able to think what we would title an article about this topic, and my vague searches are just leading me to articles about the (far) future - the exact opposite of what I'm looking for. Thryduulf (talk) 02:38, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Delete. Let's stop trying to guess what the very few using this multiply-ambiguous phrase might want. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:09, 8 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete highly ambiguous -- 65.93.183.249 (talk) 19:51, 8 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. I agree it’s highly ambiguous and we are just guessing with no indication readers are likely to use this term for any particular article on the site. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 22:52, 8 June 2025 (UTC)
- Content was merged to the then Furnace (now Furnace (central heating)) per Talk:Furnace (central heating)#Merge "first fire", and I have tagged the redirect with a {{R from merge}}. Jay 💬 06:29, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Reverting my close and relisting this per discussion with Jay at User_talk:Rusalkii#First_fire_RfD, to allow for editors to consider the merge history.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Rusalkii (talk) 19:17, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- Further to Jay's note, the merged content was subsequently removed so the topic does not now exist in Furnace (central heating). Cheers, SunloungerFrog (talk) 05:19, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to Fossil record of fire; largely per Thryduulf's comments above (and deletion isn't clean per WP:Merge and delete) but I think the idea of "first fire" being exclusive to humans is presumptuous. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:59, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- If we retarget there, we should add a hatnote to at least Control of fire by early humans, and I'm not opposed to doing that, but I still think a dab or set index is slightly better. I'm not in favour of deletion as search results are not helpful. Thryduulf (talk) 10:57, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- Comment First Fire redirects to Junta (game) for reasons that are not apparent to me. Thryduulf (talk) 10:57, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- It was mentioned at the time. Probably minor gamecruft that doesn't deserve a mention, so should follow the same fate as the lowercase version. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:42, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting to add First Fire as suggested.
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Dolores Rogers
[edit]- Dolores Rogers → List of Mario franchise characters#Bowser Jr. (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Dolores Rogers is an actress who happened to voice the character Bowser Jr. in a few different Mario games. She is not mentioned in the target article. She has done a ton of other work. There is no reason that searching her name should bring you to one character that she has voiced on occasion, especially when she is not mentioned at all in the target. Dennis C. Abrams (talk) 16:55, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Thepharoah17 (talk) 04:07, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- Also bundle the misspelt name (and the original page title) Delores Rogers. Jay 💬 18:14, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
Scuiside
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Villalba–Segovia railway
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Battle of Manupur (1748)
[edit]- Battle of Manupur (1748) → Battle of Lahore (1748) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Battle of Manupur → Battle of Lahore (1748) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
I intend to make the page for this, I'd also like to have the "Battle of Manupur" redirect thus also deleted.
This currently redirects to an earlier 1748 battle. Noorullah (talk) 01:20, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle of Manupur. @Star Mississippi:, as closer of the previous discussion, do you have any thoughts on this? BD2412 T 01:31, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- @BD2412 thanks for the ping. I'm guessing I went delete and redirect as a viable ATD but to remove the copyvio concerns. Have no objection with @Noorullah21 overwriting the redirect with a new article. There's always the risk of another AfD and I don't have the time tonight to review the sources they put forward at the AfD to see if they overcome the issues raised by those who argue not to retain. I see no one has edited it since my creation following the AfD. If my G7ing the redirect solves this, I'm happy to save you seven days. Star Mississippi 02:12, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks @Jay. Will no longer save 7 days but my offer stands to G7 "my" redirect. Star Mississippi 12:25, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- @BD2412 thanks for the ping. I'm guessing I went delete and redirect as a viable ATD but to remove the copyvio concerns. Have no objection with @Noorullah21 overwriting the redirect with a new article. There's always the risk of another AfD and I don't have the time tonight to review the sources they put forward at the AfD to see if they overcome the issues raised by those who argue not to retain. I see no one has edited it since my creation following the AfD. If my G7ing the redirect solves this, I'm happy to save you seven days. Star Mississippi 02:12, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Bundled Battle of Manupur.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 10:23, 1 July 2025 (UTC)- Battle of Manupur (1748) is an {{R from move}} to a deleted article. I guess Battle of Manupur can be speedied as a G7, and the parenthesized one deleted as a dependent redirect. The next admin may do this immediately without the 7 day wait. Jay 💬 13:25, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- G7ed the one from the AfD. I'm not sure about the parentheses one so I've left it. Star Mississippi 02:08, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- Battle of Manupur (1748) is an {{R from move}} to a deleted article. I guess Battle of Manupur can be speedied as a G7, and the parenthesized one deleted as a dependent redirect. The next admin may do this immediately without the 7 day wait. Jay 💬 13:25, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: Deleting Battle of Manupur has created a "Title (disambiguator) exists when Title doesn't" problem. If the current status quo remains, Battle of Manupur will need to be recreated to fix WP:PRECISE issues caused by Battle of Manupur (1748) existing without Battle of Manupur existing. Steel1943 (talk) 16:25, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
Ikkei Watanabe
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India in the Eurovision Song Contest
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كييف
[edit] Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 July 10#كييف
Gag names
[edit]- Dixie Normus → Gag name (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- P Niss → Gag name (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Will E → Gag name (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Examples of the phenomenon, none of which are mentioned in the target page. Rusalkii (talk) 01:23, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- This kind of thing really isn't my bag, baby, but a shag-a-listic redirect would be to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Austin_Powers_characters#Dixie_Normous BBQboffingrill me 04:25, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget Dixie Normus to List of Austin Powers characters#Dixie Normous per BBQboffin. -- Tavix (talk) 15:26, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
Chinaball
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Somewhere on the Waterloo to Weymouth route
[edit]- Somewhere on the Waterloo to Weymouth route → South West Main Line (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
The only place on the internet I can find this phrase is at Speed records in rail transport, where the redirect is linked. While the South West Main Line is the Waterloo to Weymouth route this seems very unlikely as a search term. Waterloo to Weymouth route by itself would be a better redirect, though I'd just pipe it. Rusalkii (talk) 23:09, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- Waterloo–Weymouth line maybe, but even Waterloo to Weymouth route is a stretch in my opinion. Seems the redirect being discussed is just for one use where Somewhere on the [[Waterloo–Weymouth line]] would be best. JacobTheRox(talk | contributions) 11:44, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- I did not create any new redirects, but I have piped it to the target at the Speed records page. Jay 💬 08:14, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- To be clear, I don't think even Waterloo to Weymouth route is a particularly good redirect and was not suggesting creating it, just that it would've been better in this case and I probably wouldn't have RfDed it. Rusalkii (talk) 05:29, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- I did not create any new redirects, but I have piped it to the target at the Speed records page. Jay 💬 08:14, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
Paris Black Friday
[edit] Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 July 9#Paris Black Friday
2005 Brussels NATO summit
[edit] Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 July 8#2005 Brussels NATO summit
Fraysexuality (main article)
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Eternal Liquid (album)
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The akron hammer
[edit]- The akron hammer → LeBron James (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- The l-train → LeBron James (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Neither of these phrases are mentioned in the target article. 2A0E:1D47:9085:D200:747C:71B6:4CA5:979 (talk) 23:08, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of nicknames in basketball#L where they're mentioned. (By the way, I did notice those redirects before and thought about nominating them myself.) Thepharoah17 (talk) 23:15, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- It is List of nicknames in basketball § J as name lists are sectioned by last name. Jay 💬 19:08, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- l-train comment Not among James' more common nicknames. Basketball-wise, I more associate it with Lionel Simmons (mentioned in his bio).[30] Generically, it seems this should be consistent—one way or another—with L-Train and L Train , which both currently redirect to the El train dab.—Bagumba (talk) 08:16, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- The akron hammer comment Also uncommon, but sourcable.[31] Sometimes I wonder if WP:NOTDICTIONARY applies to all these semi-obscure nicknames that people want to bold in bio leads, or here, creating redirects.—Bagumba (talk) 08:20, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- Note that capitalized The Akron Hammer has been salted since 2009. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:44, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Retarget to the list, or is "the l-train" ambiguous?
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daisy, lily, and violet
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Nile Canal
[edit]- Nile Canal → Suez Canal (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This isn’t a correct redirect. Even googling “Nile Canal” brings up something up totally different. The previous edit to this page actually said to bring it to RFD so here I am. Therefore, I say Delete. Thepharoah17 (talk) 08:33, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- Comment the redirect has history as an article. The last version before being redirected was proposed for merging with Suez Canal, and Suez Canal#Precursors does include most of the information (although not the term "Nile Canal") so this might be an unattributed {{R from merge}}, although the discussion was brief (2 editors) and didn't achieve consensus. al-Ma'mun al-Bata'ihi#New Nile canal and observatory mentions a new canal (without giving it a name) constructed in 1113-1115, which is not mentioned at Suez Canal and seems unrelated to it. Bashmur#Location talks of "a Nile canal" but the Nile article doesn't mention canals other than Jonglei Canal much further upstream. I'm leaning towards refining to Suez Canal#Precursors, especially if the term is added there, but I'm not certain. Thryduulf (talk) 11:46, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete or convert to a disambiguation page: The Suez Canal is not connected to the Nile, so it's clearly unhelpful to redirect there. The "predecessors", which is to say the ancient/medieval canals between the Nile and the Red Sea, are covered in two articles already: Canal of the Pharaohs and Khalij (Cairo). Neither of them is really known as the "Nile Canal" to my knowledge, which is why I think deleting as too vague is fine, otherwise a DAB that links to both those articles (and any other articles that might be reasonably relevant) is also fine. R Prazeres (talk) 15:56, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Dabify per Prazeres -- 65.93.183.249 (talk) 03:45, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
National railway
[edit]- National railway → State-owned enterprise (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
A national railway is an example of something that might be (but isn't always) a state-owned enterprise. Railways are mentioned a couple of times as examples, but never using this exact phrase. National Railway was a railroad planned in the USA in the 1870s and National Railways lists multiple other entities that have similar names so I don't think this is a good redirect as it stands, I'm unsure whether National Railway or National Railways would be the better target (both link to each other, but neither link to the current target). I don't support deletion as (a) this has been around since 2010 and (b) there isn't anything relevant the search engine finds that isn't the current target or listed at National Railways so search results would be unhelpful. Thryduulf (talk) 12:56, 12 June 2025 (UTC)
- What about redirecting to Railway nationalisation? 135.23.202.10 (talk) 13:56, 12 June 2025 (UTC)
- I've been thinking about this, and while I can see the connection (and have added it as a see also at National Railways) and it is probably better than the status quo, I'm not certain that it's unambiguously the correct target. Thryduulf (talk) 19:14, 12 June 2025 (UTC)
- After more thinking, I'm
notnow certain that I do not support railway nationalisation as the target, including for the reasons articulated by Mangoe below. Thryduulf (talk) 12:11, 21 June 2025 (UTC) incorrect word fixed Thryduulf (talk) 11:48, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- After more thinking, I'm
- I've been thinking about this, and while I can see the connection (and have added it as a see also at National Railways) and it is probably better than the status quo, I'm not certain that it's unambiguously the correct target. Thryduulf (talk) 19:14, 12 June 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget To Railway nationalisation. A National Railway sounds like it would be organised and owned by a national level government Servite et contribuere (talk) 05:07, 13 June 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget per above. drinks or coffee ~ ♪ 07:17, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to National Railways and rearrange entries there so that both National Railway and railway nationalisation are at the top of their sections. State-owned enterprise is a bad target in any case, and Ieel that someone doing this searching is more likely looking to find out about something that is a "national railway" and less likely to be looking to find out about the process of how we got nationalized railroads; and even so, there's a link to the latter on the disambiguation page. Mangoe (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Which target?
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- Retarget to National Railways (disambiguation) per Mangoe as I think if it went to Railway nationalisation, there would likely need to be a hatnote linking to the dab page anyways. The dab page includes a link to Railway nationalisation. Fork99 (talk) 09:24, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
George Fitcher
[edit]- George Fitcher → George Ashmore Fitch (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
I cannot find any evidence that he is referred to as "Fitcher" rather than "Fitch". We have one use of it at Nanking Safety Zone, but as the article elsewhere repeatedly uses "Fitch" I strongly suspect this is a mistake that should be corrected, but as I don't read Chinese I don't want to fiddle with the content without checking the source. Rusalkii (talk) 02:28, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete or Retarget. Agree with Rusalkii. Redirect to George Ashmore Fitch does not make sense here. 'Fitcher' is phonetically similar to 'Fischer' and thus a retarget could be made to the disambiguation page George Fischer. Katiedevi (talk) 22:20, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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KineMaster
[edit]- KineMaster → List of video editing software#Proprietary (commercial) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Redirected to a section that doesn't contain text "KineMaster" was removed by MrOllie. OOCJZ (talk) 22:47, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
- Restore and AfD. Jay 💬 07:51, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Note that the page was BLARed a few months ago. The most recent article content is at Special:Permalink/1287035406.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Rusalkii (talk) 18:42, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
- delete without opposition to recreation. the extremely few sources across all previous diffs were of debatable everything, not limited to reliability, usability, and existence. the content of the diffs that weren't vandalism was also pretty promotional, so i couldn't see it sticking in mainspace for long. however, i did actually find some sources that seem to be potentially useful, so it can likely be recreated if someone's in the mood consarn (grave) (obituary) 11:38, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
- Restore without prejudice to AfD. Where sources exist and need detailed consideration that is far outside the scope of RfD. Thryduulf (talk) 11:38, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
- Analysis of sources should be something that is encouraged at RfD, not shunned. I would love for someone to present sources here, which could help me decide to restore and/or rescue it and avoid an additional deletion discussion at AfD. -- Tavix (talk) 20:37, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
- to this day, i don't know what policies would discourage checking sources here, especially when it's actively beneficial to the discussion consarn (grave) (obituary) 01:41, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- right, it would probably be a good idea to plop some sources here so i can have a look at them later
- i can't guarantee they're reliable enough to bypass the deprecated source filter, but that's something i'm going to worry myself with when i'm out of work
- https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/economy/20210518/investors-panic-over-kinemaster-deal-collapse (wait, wasn't that in 2019?)
- https://www.tudocelular.com/android/noticias/n47238/KineMaster-Android-ganha-editor-de-video-mais-funcional-e-potente.html (written in some indecipherable glyphs, but might be usable for reception)
- https://en.prnasia.com/releases/global/kinemaster-ranked-no-5-among-korea-s-top-mobile-publishers-in-global-downloads-307953.shtml (ooh, big numbers)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/wooper (not a source, i just want to trick someone into reading it)
- https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/biz/2025/01/602_301176.html ("if only we knew the suffering that would befall us next")
- https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/biz/2022/05/175_309004.html (the fact that this is how i pieced together that kinemaster is korean after reading the pre-blar content worries me)
- https://finance.yahoo.com/news/global-top-video-editor-kinemaster-003900001.html (it's yahoo)
- https://www.kxan.com/business/press-releases/ein-presswire/643038309/kinemaster-updates-with-hevc-alpha-video-support-the-worlds-first-alpha-video-editing-app-for-android (might just be an ad, don't put a pin on this one)
- https://www.techradar.com/pro/software-services/kinemaster-review (ooh, a review)
- https://www.prweb.com/releases/5_million_worldwide_downloads_of_kinemaster_the_only_android_video_editor_with_multiple_video_layers/prweb12974002.htm (did they lose 4 million downloads somewhere down the line?)
- https://finance.yahoo.com/news/kinemaster-launches-6-0-version-193000404.html (businessslop)
- https://www.techradar.com/reviews/kinemaster (two of them!?)
- https://www.creativebloq.com/reviews/kinemaster (okay this one isn't from techradar, phew, but the domain name sounds to me like it might be a blog)
- https://en.prnasia.com/releases/apac/NexStreaming_Signs_Agreement_With_Xiaomi_MIUI_to_Supply_Video_Editing_Solutions-149033.shtml (seemingly proof that kinemaster is the facebook of south korean mobile video editing software, for worse)
- https://www.gizbot.com/apps/features/is-kinemaster-a-chinese-app-know-about-founder-company-details-069116.html (proof of the human instinct to assume that all software is chinese)
- again, i'll try to have a look at those later, and i doubt more than two of them will be reliable, but it's better to play it unsafe and at least prove that there's something to consider for anyone willing to recreate
- and i should clarify that doesn't change my vote to delete, as the pre-blar content is just Not Good™, so it should be recreated entirely, which i can't guarantee anyone will be willing to do consarn (grave) (obituary) 11:15, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- Re investigating sources here and not AfD, this is not explicitly prohibited but really should be to stop these repetitive arguments for bypassing the point of having separate deletion discussion venues for articles and redirects. The substantive content at this title is the article, not the redirect, so discussion about it should happen at the venue all our policies, guidelines and conventions indicate is the place that deletion of articles is discussed: AfD. If we encourage and normalise playing fast and loose with these things (as here) then we have no standing to uphold proper process at other times (e.g. when proper process would be preferential to your POV).
- If you want to abolish the AfD/RfD split, then go ahead and propose doing that and if it gains consensus I'll help implement it. However what I won't do is quietly go about implementing it ad hoc by the backdoor because one or two editors dislike the split for some reason. Thryduulf (talk) 14:55, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- "not explicitly prohibited" works for me consarn (grave) (obituary) 17:11, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- Just because something is not explicitly prohibited does not mean that it is recommended, a good idea, or even allowed. After all we don't explicitly prohibit many things that we don't endorse because it has never previously been an issue - which this wasn't until bees found their way into bonnets about doing things at RfD that nobody previously considered relevant to RfD. Thryduulf (talk) 18:58, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- a little late, but this really isn't a reason to prohibit nomming blars (especially when it's been blar'd as spam, unsourced, and vandalism) or checking sources here, and i don't think explicitly saying that they're permitted would require merging rfd and afd. if something goes to afd, we check sources on it while treating it as an article, with the possibility of coverage not being significant or reliable enough to keep it. if it goes to rfd, we check sources on it and its relation to the target while treating it as a redirect, with the possibility of coverage being significant or reliable enough to make it an article. it's not a backdoor procedure, it's not bees taking a page from the wasp scout handbook, and it's absolutely not a matter of competence or lack thereof, it's standard fare for editing wikipedia
- hell, it's not even like sources need to be explicitly brought up or presented for people to go check, they'll ideally do that regardless to determine what to do with any given page consarn (grave) (obituary) 23:38, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- Just because something is not explicitly prohibited does not mean that it is recommended, a good idea, or even allowed. After all we don't explicitly prohibit many things that we don't endorse because it has never previously been an issue - which this wasn't until bees found their way into bonnets about doing things at RfD that nobody previously considered relevant to RfD. Thryduulf (talk) 18:58, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- "not explicitly prohibited" works for me consarn (grave) (obituary) 17:11, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- to this day, i don't know what policies would discourage checking sources here, especially when it's actively beneficial to the discussion consarn (grave) (obituary) 01:41, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- Analysis of sources should be something that is encouraged at RfD, not shunned. I would love for someone to present sources here, which could help me decide to restore and/or rescue it and avoid an additional deletion discussion at AfD. -- Tavix (talk) 20:37, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete I'm normally in favor of restoring in cases like this, but here there's no need to restore unsourced spam. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:36, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
Delete, unless someone wants to provide evidence of notability. -- Tavix (talk) 20:37, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
- Striking until I have time to review Consarn's sources. -- Tavix (talk) 14:53, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- Restore the fact that sources have been presented about by consarn suggests that this needs a proper, full discussion to determine notability. Which is the purpose of AFD not RFD- RFD should not be being used for "back door" deletions. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:28, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- i still don't think it's worth restoring. maybe having those sources here will help someone who finds the rationale, but restoring one of however many extremely problematic diffs will do the exact opposite of helping consarn (grave) (obituary) 17:12, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Restore per Joseph. It's best to send this to the guys over at AfD, RfD isn't designed for deciding notability when there's tons of sources to look over. mwwv converse∫edits 17:46, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- a little late, but here are my opinions on the sources, with the caveat that i may as well be pulling reliability estimates out of my ass and should not be treated as possessing an authoritative opinion
- the koreatimes ones seem unambiguously reliable
- aside from the indecipherable glyphs, the tudocelular review seems... shallow? insubstantial? it's probably usable, but... bleh, i'm not feeling it
- pr newswire... paragraph about how cool and awesome and worth it kinemaster is... nah, not seeing any advertisement-shaped suspicious details here. probably usable for an uncontroversial statement about numbers and stuff, but not a word more
- wooper is cute, the main page should honestly just redirect to it
- the first yahoo one is boring. reliable, sure, but boring
- the kxan one seems... oh my black goat of the woods with a thousand young, it seems usable
- same for the techradar ones, i'm honestly willing to call them the best the article could have, and it's likely not even close
- no opinion on prweb, i think my brain turned off for a few minutes when looking at it...
- the second yahoo finance one is an ad
- the creative bloq review isn't a blog, wow. it's probably even also usable
- second pr newswire source, same verse as first... is what i would say, if it was about kinemaster in the first place. i don't know, maybe it can be used for saying that it's compatible with nexstreaming?
- the gizbot one seems almost usable for a short claim about kinemaster not being chinese, but why would we even have that?
- again, not the slightest bit confident in my overly generous evalutation, but for now, my vote will remain a strong return to red. sources exist and are likely reliable, but i actually fell asleep checking some of those sources, so i'm not exactly expecting other people to be giddy for a chance to work on it consarn (grave) (obituary) 23:53, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- All of these sourcing issues are beside the point; the article you want to restore is speedyable as G11. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:09, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
Kyoto, JP, KY
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Glizzy
[edit]Retarget to Hot dog. Shy Glizzy is not typically known by the mononym Glizzy, and the use of the term as a synonym for hot dog has considerably increased since this was last nominated in 2021. 162 etc. (talk) 06:46, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget per nom 𝔅𝔦𝔰-𝔖𝔢𝔯𝔧𝔢𝔱𝔞? 19:41, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- Disambiguate per Glossary of Generation Z slang that says it is a Glock handgun, and hotdog. At Lee Major shows "Give It Up Ft. 3 Glizzy" indicating 'Glizzy' being short for Shy Glizzy; at Bissonnet Street indicates a local criminal known as "Glizzy". Also indicate wikt:en:gizzy#English (
{{wiktionary|glizzy}}
) -- 65.93.183.181 (talk) 10:59, 5 July 2025 (UTC)- No objection to a redirect to Glossary of Generation Z slang#G. 162 etc. (talk) 16:19, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
2025 Iranian strikes
[edit]- 2025 Iranian strikes → 2025 Iranian protests (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This should be deleted because it could refer to the Iranian strikes on Israel and Qatar Thepharoah17 (talk) 03:54, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete as ambiguous; create new redirects 2025 Iranian labor strikes and 2025 Iranian labour strikes to aid in searches. Jruderman (talk) 04:51, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- Disambiguate since it is an ambiguous term per both Thepharoah17 and Jruderman. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:22, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
Family guy catchphrases
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Mask of Ice
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B. Clayton Bonnefoy
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imakuni?
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painfully minor pokémon anime characters (part 1, probably)
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pokémon trainer (video game)
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Ri Hak
[edit] Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 July 7#Ri Hak
LION
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Frontier Park
[edit]- Frontier Park → St. Charles, Missouri (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Frontier Park (St. Charles, Missouri) → St. Charles, Missouri (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
An article at this title created by Burkouri was recently redirected to St. Charles, Missouri by Onel5969. I have moved the page history of the former article to Frontier Park (St. Charles, Missouri) to avoid confusion. There are a lot of parks with this name, so it doesn't seem appropriate to have a redirect to the city where just one of them is, nor to have a set index article since most of the hits I found on Wikipedia were rather run-of-the-mill. Paul_012 (talk) 14:25, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
- Instead of trying to figure out how to best handle a title that could refer to several non-notable places, it may be best to undo the BLARing of Frontier Park (St. Charles, Missouri) and nominate it for deletion. If that proposal succeeds, Frontier Park can also be safely deleted. - Eureka Lott 00:01, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
- What are grounds for undoing the BLAR, unless you wish to enhance the article? If taken to AfD, it would most probably result in again redirecting to St. Charles, Missouri. Jay 💬 07:29, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- The park is mentioned in the target article, but it's a mere passing mention. We wouldn't be in this situation if the article had been deleted (or draftified) instead of being BLARed and moved. A WP:PROD nomination probably would've handled it. - Eureka Lott 14:15, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- What you are saying is you don't find "Frontier Park (St. Charles, Missouri)" to be a good redirect. If nominated at RfD, that will be a separate discussion, but it cannot be bundled here because this nomination is about ambiguity. Jay 💬 17:07, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
- The park is mentioned in the target article, but it's a mere passing mention. We wouldn't be in this situation if the article had been deleted (or draftified) instead of being BLARed and moved. A WP:PROD nomination probably would've handled it. - Eureka Lott 14:15, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- What are grounds for undoing the BLAR, unless you wish to enhance the article? If taken to AfD, it would most probably result in again redirecting to St. Charles, Missouri. Jay 💬 07:29, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- Just delete and let Search handle queries without interruption. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:41, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Added Frontier Park (St. Charles, Missouri) to the nomination due to its mention in this discussion. Also, bypassed the double redirect of the originally nominated Frontier Park to have it target St. Charles, Missouri ... which the nominator should have done after they moved the redirect ... as well as updated the nomination to reflect this change/update.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943 (talk) 18:55, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: I don't know why Frontier Park (St. Charles, Missouri) should have been bundled here when Jay already specifically pointed out above that it would need to be a separate discussion. --Paul_012 (talk) 21:06, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Agreed, bundling was a mistake here. Keep Frontier Park (St. Charles, Missouri) as both unambiguous and mentioned at the target (although that mention could be expanded). Delete or disambig Frontier Park, there a many parks with this name mentioned on en.wp, including at List of city parks of Erie, Pennsylvania, Grant-Frontier Park, Cheyenne Frontier Days, Hays, Kansas, North Ridgeville, Ohio, Aintree, Victoria and Simi Valley, California. The Cheyenne park is the only one with a claim on being primary but it doesn't rise to that level imo. Thryduulf (talk) 09:25, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Disagree. If Frontier Park is deleted and Frontier Park (St. Charles, Missouri) remains, it creates a "Title (disambiguation) exists when Title does not exist" problem, which is essentially an offshoot of violating WP:PRECISE. (I may vote later ... but at the minimum, I'm a "do not delete Frontier Park if Frontier Park (St. Charles, Missouri) is not deleted".) Steel1943 (talk) 17:38, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- There is no issue at all with a "Title (disambiguation) exists when Title does not exist" situation (it's not a "problem", let alone one that justifies deleting something). It would be a problem for an article to be located at "Title (disambiguation)" when "Title" doesn't exist, but that problem is very easily solved by either moving the article to the undisambiguated title or creating a disambiguation page at the latter. However if "Title" is too ambiguous to be useful as a dab page, but "Title (disambiguation)" is unambiguous, then it actively harms the encyclopaedia to delete the latter (by making it unnecessarily harder for readers to find the content they are looking for). Consider that nobody would regard a naturally disambiguated title an issue in this circumstance - even if that were not how we would title our article. Thryduulf (talk) 22:20, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Regarding "
There is no issue at all with a "Title (disambiguation) exists when Title does not exist" situation (it's not a "problem"...
": WP:PRECISE seems to disagree with that since if we have a disambiguated term but it's the only term, then it doesn't need to be disambiguated. (In all actuality though, the root problem is that the redirect should have never been moved from Frontier Park to Frontier Park (St. Charles, Missouri). If the nominator had just nominated Frontier Park and never created Frontier Park (St. Charles, Missouri), we would not be disputing this. In other words, the nominator created the mess that we never should have had any reason to discuss or dispute.) Also, Thryduulf, to one of your points: My vote is satisfied/resolved if Frontier Park is converted to a disambiguation page (though I should have specifically stated that before now); in other words, most of your vote (except "delete Frontier Park") matches up with my stance. Steel1943 (talk) 23:47, 6 July 2025 (UTC)- WP:PRECISE is about article titles and not relevant to redirects.
if we have a disambiguated term but it's the only term, then it doesn't need to be disambiguated.
indeed, but that doesn't mean that the disambiguated term must not exit, see Category:Redirects from unnecessary disambiguation. There is no mess here, just two normal redirects - one ambiguous, one unambiguous. Thryduulf (talk) 00:11, 7 July 2025 (UTC)- WP:PRECISE is about titles on the article namespace. Not sure who said "
if we have a disambiguated term but it's the only term, then it doesn't need to be disambiguated.
" because that was not my stance, and I'm arguing something different. Either way, I don't think I have anything to add anymore since I don't know how to respond to "There is no mess here, just two normal redirects - one ambiguous, one unambiguous.
" since there have been stance(s) to delete the ambiguous redirect without deleting the unambiguous redirect, so I'm getting a bit lost what are points are now and can really only state "my stance remains". Steel1943 (talk) 00:30, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- WP:PRECISE is about titles on the article namespace. Not sure who said "
- WP:PRECISE is about article titles and not relevant to redirects.
- Regarding "
- There is no issue at all with a "Title (disambiguation) exists when Title does not exist" situation (it's not a "problem", let alone one that justifies deleting something). It would be a problem for an article to be located at "Title (disambiguation)" when "Title" doesn't exist, but that problem is very easily solved by either moving the article to the undisambiguated title or creating a disambiguation page at the latter. However if "Title" is too ambiguous to be useful as a dab page, but "Title (disambiguation)" is unambiguous, then it actively harms the encyclopaedia to delete the latter (by making it unnecessarily harder for readers to find the content they are looking for). Consider that nobody would regard a naturally disambiguated title an issue in this circumstance - even if that were not how we would title our article. Thryduulf (talk) 22:20, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- I'd just like to note that I oppose converting Frontier Park into a disambiguation page, because there's no indication that any of the identified parks are notable. I still think we'd be best served by deleting both redirects. - Eureka Lott 03:00, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete both Regardless of any metaprocedural disputes above there simply isn't enough substance at the target to warrant a redirect. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:04, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
Buppie
[edit]- Buppie → African-American middle class (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Deletion. The target is not a synonym. It may be related, but "Buppie" is not mentioned anywhere, and neither is "yuppie", from which "buppie" is derived. GA-RT-22 (talk) 08:54, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on the page history?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 14:12, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. I agree it is not a synonym. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 00:01, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
- Restore and add a merge tag to the target or to yuppie. Jay 💬 02:36, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to wikt:buppie where the term is explained. -- Tavix (talk) 02:54, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Rusalkii (talk) 18:40, 19 June 2025 (UTC) - Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Long story short, I'm not WP:BOLD enough to do a WP:BARTENDER close here, but either someone else might or maybe consensus will get clearer. Either way, seems there is no consensus for the status quo.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943 (talk) 18:00, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
- Soft redirect to Wiktionary for now per Tavix, without prejudice for retargeting locally once a proper target is developed. --Paul_012 (talk) 21:10, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
JWG
[edit]- JWG → John Wayne Gacy (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Jwg → John Wayne Gacy (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
I would recommend either deleting both redirects or converting converting the first one into a disambiguation page and redirecting the second one to the new DAB page. In the article, Gacy is never referred to by his initials. GilaMonster536 (talk) 15:26, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
Delete unless there are any more appropriate targets.A quick search seems to just return a bunch of non-notable companies and such. I suspect there are other people with the same initials, but unless someone is typically known by their initials, they probably shouldn't be used as redirects or dab entries. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 16:04, 18 June 2025 (UTC)- Updating to Retarget to Watonga Regional Airport, per Thryduulf's find below. I'd say that even if the SIA is created, the redirect should continue to point to the airport (barring any other reasonable targets found, in which case, a dab is likely fine too). 35.139.154.158 (talk) 21:14, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
Dabify and include India–China Joint Working Group on the boundary question which has the acronym mentioned. Thepharoah17 (talk) 18:39, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
It could include other titles with "Joint Working Group" such as Joint Working Group between the Roman Catholic Church and the World Council of Churches. Thepharoah17 (talk) 18:42, 18 June 2025 (UTC)- Retarget to Watonga Regional Airport per the IP and Thryduulf Thepharoah17 (talk) 21:23, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Comment There are tens, if not hundreds, of joint working groups mentioned on Wikipedia that use the JWG acronym, without any being primary. A set index/dab at Joint Working Group would be viable, and when created JWG should redirect there with a hatnote to Watonga Regional Airport which has this FAA identifier. Thryduulf (talk) 18:43, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Thryduulf: I have created a stub at Joint Working Group, but have also drafted a disambiguation page with four potential senses under JWG. I would not lose any sleep either way if the redirect went to the stub and the senses went to a JWG (disambiguation) page. BD2412 T 22:17, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- @BD2412: Thank you for that. Disambig or retarget to Joint Working Group (Jwg should lead to the same page JWG does). I have a slight preference for retargetting, but it is slight. I do not support targetting the airport as joint working groups are by several orders of magnitude the more common, airport codes rarely are and of the three main ones IATA, ICAO and FAA the latter are almost always the least known. Thryduulf (talk) 02:57, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Thryduulf: After further researching the question and trying to find the origin of the concept of a "joint working group", I am now of the mind that the Joint Working Group stub I created should be merged into Working group. There just aren't sources about what a "joint" working group is that are in any way distinct from those for a "working group". BD2412 T 15:18, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
- @BD2412: Thank you for that. Disambig or retarget to Joint Working Group (Jwg should lead to the same page JWG does). I have a slight preference for retargetting, but it is slight. I do not support targetting the airport as joint working groups are by several orders of magnitude the more common, airport codes rarely are and of the three main ones IATA, ICAO and FAA the latter are almost always the least known. Thryduulf (talk) 02:57, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Thryduulf: I have created a stub at Joint Working Group, but have also drafted a disambiguation page with four potential senses under JWG. I would not lose any sleep either way if the redirect went to the stub and the senses went to a JWG (disambiguation) page. BD2412 T 22:17, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- Disambiguate for Joint Working Group, Watonga Regional Airport; and wikt:en:jwg -- 65.93.183.249 (talk) 21:49, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- Disambiguate per 65.93.183.249, but also include John Wayne Gacy as his initials are used (eg: [32][33][34]). -- Tavix (talk) 23:09, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Delete both. JWG or Jwg seems undue, doesn't seem to be widely used except for airport) - e.g. don't see DAB for JFK. Also, seems WP:DABABBREV might help decide. Asteramellus (talk) 01:14, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- It is the official code name of the airport under IATA, so deleting doesn't seem proper. -- 65.93.183.249 (talk) 03:47, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
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Dance drama
[edit]There are many types of dance drama, not just wuju. This is misleading. Either delete, retarget, or possibly a DAB? Laterthanyouthink (talk) 03:14, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
- I see quite a few results for "dance drama" on this site, so I'm inclined to suggest a DAB or something similar. Seems like a reasonable enough search term that I could believe leading to the current target (given it's a direct translation of the name) or a number of other options, so some sort of list would make the most sense. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 04:19, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
- Only reason I didn't DAB at creation was that we didn't seem to have any articles on the other genres of dance drama. Since WP:DAB requires at least two valid target articles, I went the redirect route. If we do have articles on these other forms of dance drama, a DAB definitely makes more sense. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 13:43, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
- Laterthanyouthink, QuietHere, what articles should this be disambiguated with? Rusalkii (talk) 19:21, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
- For a start, mudra, Saang, Rabinal Achí, and Khamba Thoibi Jagoi all have redirects with pointing toward them which contain "dance drama". That makes at least five options, though that was limited to just pages with "dance drama" in the title so there may be even more past that. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 20:11, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
- The one I came across that led me to find the redirect was Kakkarissi Natakam, but there are a lot of other forms of performance that use dance drama, especially Indian ones (see Dance in India), like Kuchipudi, Bhagavata Mela, etc., and there are Indonesian and Balinese ones Wayang wong and Gambuh, and others. Dance drama is a very generic term though. I'm wondering if it should target the section Dance#Theatrical, which could be expanded to include the term, mentioning some prominent examples, and also refer to Folk dance, many of which incorporate dance drama. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 02:00, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
- Maybe leaving as a redirect, but targeting that section to provide an overview? It might be too difficult and onerous to try to list all the possible types of dance drama on a DAB, actually. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 02:02, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
- The one I came across that led me to find the redirect was Kakkarissi Natakam, but there are a lot of other forms of performance that use dance drama, especially Indian ones (see Dance in India), like Kuchipudi, Bhagavata Mela, etc., and there are Indonesian and Balinese ones Wayang wong and Gambuh, and others. Dance drama is a very generic term though. I'm wondering if it should target the section Dance#Theatrical, which could be expanded to include the term, mentioning some prominent examples, and also refer to Folk dance, many of which incorporate dance drama. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 02:00, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
- For a start, mudra, Saang, Rabinal Achí, and Khamba Thoibi Jagoi all have redirects with pointing toward them which contain "dance drama". That makes at least five options, though that was limited to just pages with "dance drama" in the title so there may be even more past that. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 20:11, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
- Also Kathakali and perhaps Musicals too. The articles mentioned in this discussion don't really make a disambiguation page, but could rather be a List of dance drama forms or something such. Or a WP:BCA. Delete per WP:REDLINK. Jay 💬 06:30, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
- I am fine with BDD's suggestion too. Jay 💬 10:48, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Retarget to Dance#Theatrical. I agree it could be its own article, but this seems useful in the meantime, so no need for REDLINK deletion. --BDD (talk) 20:35, 13 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Delete There isn't really enough substance at BDD's suggested target to make a redirect. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:27, 26 June 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to Dance#Theatrical, which is actually a nice summary of various dramatic dance forms. -- Tavix (talk) 22:30, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: One more try ... delete or retarget?
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Template:Ingoe
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List of piston engines
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B1454 road
[edit]- B1454 road → B roads in Zone 1 of the Great Britain numbering scheme (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
non-existent road harrz talk 10:56, 10 June 2025 (UTC)
- This one does appear to exist [35], but it's not currently mentioned in the target article. I'd say keep and add mention. 2A0E:1D47:9085:D200:FAB8:C00:A757:B61E (talk) 00:37, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts now that a mention has been added to the target page?
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- There is more information at A roads in Zone 1 of the Great Britain numbering scheme § 1000s than at the current target. Jay 💬 07:21, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: for consideration of Jay's observation
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Big Steel
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Blade (2025 upcoming film)
[edit]- Blade (2025 upcoming film) → List of Marvel Cinematic Universe films#Blade (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Factually incorrect and improper disambiguation that was erroneously created and accepted as a separate draft from Draft:Blade (upcoming film). There is no Blade film set to release this year, and the contents of this redirect's history are not worth keeping when compared to the more developed draft. Should the Blade film eventuate, that is already covered by the appropriately titled Blade (upcoming film) redirect. For reference, Blade (2025 film) no longer exists. — Trailblazer101🔥 (discuss · contribs) 22:54, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete as misleading and factually incorrect. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:02, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
- Move back to draft to an appropriate title like Draft:Blade (upcoming film) (2), and redirect it to Draft:Blade (upcoming film) if it is a content fork with no additional value. If there were additions that are not available at the proper draft, merge-and-redirect may be done. Jay 💬 07:09, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Move without redirect to Draft:Blade (upcoming film) (2) and retarget it to Draft:Blade (upcoming film) per Jay. (I was originally going to close the discussion to this result, but then I realized that such a close is not compatible with the nominator's statement.) Steel1943 (talk) 19:30, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
- It was already previously moved from Draft:Blade (2025 upcoming film), which redirects to the draft. There is nothing of merit at either that draft redirect or this mainspace redirect, so I don't see why we would need to retain them. — Trailblazer101🔥 (discuss · contribs) 18:54, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- History exists, there's no real harm leaving the history in the "Draft:" namespace, best be safe than sorry, and there are quite a few pages in the "Draft:" namespace that contain " (2)", so there's definitely precedence for such titles. That, and since admins can access the deleted content since it never goes away technically and remains on Wikipedia's servers, WP:CHEAP applies. Steel1943 (talk) 20:52, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- It was already previously moved from Draft:Blade (2025 upcoming film), which redirects to the draft. There is nothing of merit at either that draft redirect or this mainspace redirect, so I don't see why we would need to retain them. — Trailblazer101🔥 (discuss · contribs) 18:54, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
Cambodia national beach soccer team
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NaMo
[edit] Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 July 6#NaMo
Long relationship
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SB 4-C
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Unreserved seat
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Julie N.
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Reading town
[edit]- Reading town → Reading, Berkshire (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Reading (town) → Reading, Berkshire (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Town of Reading → Reading, Berkshire (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Reading Town → Reading, Berkshire (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
There are lots of towns named "Reading" so this isn’t correct. Thepharoah17 (talk) 23:10, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget Reading_(disambiguation)#Places ? Jruderman (talk) 23:17, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- Disambiguate. There are a lot of places named "Reading" or "Reading town". There's also Reading Town F.C.. 🌳 Balsam Cottonwood (talk) ✝ 23:20, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to Reading_(disambiguation)#Places per above, working disambig page that covers all of the above — 🪫Volatile 📲T | ⌨️C 05:39, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
- In light of the comments below, suggest including a hatnote (maybe one of those 'X redirects here') to Reading Town F.C. and Reading Town Regatta. Reading Township (dab page) is listed under Reading_(disambiguation)#Places — 🪫Volatile 📲T | ⌨️C 17:56, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
- Comment Reading (disambiguation)#Places does not include the football club Reading Town F.C., which is listed at Reading (disambiguation)#Sport. Thryduulf (talk) 11:05, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, and there's also Reading Town Regatta, which is not currently listed under Reading (disambiguation)#Sport. The #Places section also does not include titles like:
- (The townships are listed at Reading Township). A solution might be to make a separate disambiguation page pointing to Reading (disambiguation)#Places, Reading Township, and any "leftover" titles such as Reading Town F.C. and Reading Town Regatta. Perhaps there is something better? 🌳 Balsam Cottonwood (talk) ✝ 11:22, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
- Comment While investigating the page history, I discovered Reading (town) which also redirects to Reading, Berkshire. Results of this RfD should probably be applied to that page as well — 🪫Volatile 📲T | ⌨️C 17:59, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. The target is the primary topic for these redirects. It is, by far, the most populated place of all the Readings. Sure, there are many other towns with the name, but the one in England is the primary topic for a geographical place. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:49, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per Shhhnotsoloud. Also, "x town" has affinity to England, at least for this reader (e.g. "In Reading town...") Cremastra (talk) 16:55, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to Reading (disambiguation); I'm not convinced by the primary topic argument, especially for a partially disambiguated title with so many other uses. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:24, 26 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Retarget to Reading (disambiguation)#Places, on the strength of Reading, Pennsylvania, alone. If there are townships missing from the disambiguation page, add them. BD2412 T 19:50, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- The problem with that target is that it doesn't include entries for things explicitly called "Reading Town" - and generally they shouldn't be as they are just partial title matches for "Reading". Thryduulf (talk) 21:12, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
Gâteau
[edit]- Gâteau → Cake (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Gateau → Layer cake (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Does this pass WP:FORRED? 🌳 Balsam Cottonwood (talk) ✝ 00:32, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
- Maybe refine to Cake#Sponge cake since it's mentioned, else delete per WP:FORRED— 🪫Volatile 📲T | ⌨️C 03:55, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
- Gateau currently targets Layer cake, so probably should be bundled. I think it is targeted there as based (perhaps) on
The French term gâteau is used for a cake in France, and in the UK it means a layer cake.
being in layer cake. I think gâteau is common enough in English in names of cakes that doing something with it makes sense rather than a redlink and depending on search results? Skynxnex (talk) 14:23, 19 June 2025 (UTC)- Then we might as well target both to Cake, since someone searching for "Gâteau" will probably be looking for the article about cake, not just a mention of the French word. 🌳 Balsam Cottonwood (talk) ✝ 23:24, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
- I have bundled Gateau, Balsam Cottonwood. Skynxnex (talk) 17:45, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
- Then we might as well target both to Cake, since someone searching for "Gâteau" will probably be looking for the article about cake, not just a mention of the French word. 🌳 Balsam Cottonwood (talk) ✝ 23:24, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
Changing to disambiguate since there are a number of articles that feature 'Gateau' or 'Gâteau' in their name, such as Black Forest gateau, Petit gâteau, Gâteau nantais, etc. — [[User:VolatileAnomaly|🪫Volatile]] 📲T | ⌨️C 01:12, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
- Restoring original !vote due to misunderstanding of WP:PTM — 🪫Volatile 📲T | ⌨️C 07:36, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
- Keep as a French loanword, and point Gateau to the cake article to match. See wikt:gateau for more info. Disambiguation wouldn't be appropriate, because the identified items are all WP:PTMs. - Eureka Lott 02:02, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
- @EurekaLott: The 2nd nom was added after your !vote, I think. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:15, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- Target both to Cake. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:15, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- Disambiguate we have Hélène Gateau who is not any sort of cake, but is a person; Gateau du Rowa is a fictional character; I will note that Black Forest gateau and Buckwheat gateau use English instead of French, so uses gateau as a loan word. A disambiguation page is better than a hatnote at Cake. There also being the homophone Gato (disambiguation) - 65.93.183.249 (talk) 21:37, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 14:26, 28 June 2025 (UTC) - I'd like both to redirect to the same place. Looking at some high-quality sources, we see:
- These days, it's usually a rich, elaborately decorated cake.[36][37]
- In its original English use (c. Victorian era), it was any kind of cake, and even things that weren't really cake, but had some cake-like qualities.[38] It even included molded rice puddings.[39] Elaborately decorated layer cakes became the more popular use later.[40]
- In last half-century, it typically uses a boring sponge cake, but this is not inherent; what matters is the cream (and often fruit) filling and decorations.[41]
- The French word still refers to any kind of cake.[42] Or even non-cakes, such as tarts, pancakes, and Gâteau Pithiviers, Saint-Honoré, and Paris–Brest pastry.[43]
- Overall, I think that pointing both at Cake is slightly better, as that encompasses all of the historical, modern, and French meanings, but it is not unreasonable to point them both at Layer cake. WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:49, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
Ulfcytel's land
[edit] Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 July 9#Ulfcytel's land
Aerial apparatus
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Parachute (EP)
[edit] Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 July 5#Parachute (EP)
Multifunction
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Brent Díaz
[edit]- Brent Díaz → Milwaukee Brewers minor league players#Brent Díaz (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Baseball minor league players are grouped by their respective organisation. This player was most recently a member of the Milwaukee Brewers, but never made an appearance for the Major League team, and so did not get his own article. He has since left the team, has not played at all since 2023, and is presumably retired, and the related mini-profile for him was removed from the redirect's target article.
Propose deleting per WP:RFD#DELETE point 2 -- it's confusing to be taken to a page that has no related content.
My only concern is whether it needs to be kept under WP:RFD#KEEP point 1, given the text further back in the edit histor was merged in. (However, it was merged in by the original author, so presumably counts as reaffirming the license..?) Buttons to Push Buttons (talk | contribs) 11:01, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- It is not inherently confusing to be able to find the name of a redirect in the article. RFD#DELETE #2 gives an example of a redirect to pointing at a less-relevant article. RFD#DELETE #2 has nothing to do with whether the redirect is mentioned.
- RFD#DELETE #8 is much more salient, and it is about "a novel or very obscure synonym for an article name that is not mentioned in the target". So: Is it a synonym? No; this is a redirect to a broader subject, not to a different name for the same thing. If we pretend that it's a synonym, would it be "a novel or very obscure" one? No. People searching for a person's name, when they end up in a list, are not going to be confused. They're going to say "Ah, this is a list of baseball players, so he must have been a baseball player" or "That's the team he played for, so Dad got something about baseball wrong for the first time in my life!"
- The information about Brent Díaz was removed in 2023. At a quick glance, my impression is that the scope of this article is current players only, and there is no place to put former/retired/dead players. WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:28, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- Fair points – thanks. Feels a bit like there's a hole in the reasons, given the synonym rule shoudl probably be explicitly for synonyms, but still..! What I would add is that this does generally tend to be the route we take: include non-notable players until they become notable, and delete their redirects once removed and notability is never established. See e.g. a whole swathe of similar articles at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 November 8, including Tyler Herb for the same specific article. Granted, few-to-no !votes, but also no objections. Buttons to Push Buttons (talk | contribs) 12:41, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:00, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
Native americancuisie
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Bottle bomb
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US sailor
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Acceleration, Reconnection, Turbulence and Electrodynamics of the Moon’s Interaction with the Sun
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North Georgia Finishing, Inc. v. Di-Chem, Inc.
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Scraface
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Seating Arraignment
[edit] Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 July 7#Seating Arraignment
Chinese officials
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Vancouver ramming
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Rice gadu
[edit]- Rice gadu → Rice#Harvesting.2C drying and milling (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
The word "gadu" is mentioned nowhere in the target article, leaving the connection between the redirect and the target article unclear. (This redirect was formally an article that was subject to a WP:BLAR in 2014 after existing for 2 months.) Steel1943 (talk) 20:44, 17 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Merge to an appropriate article like Rice production in Indonesia, as Agriculture in Indonesia § Rice has very less content and would be UNDUE. Jay 💬 13:20, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
Plain rice
[edit] Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 July 5#Plain rice
Columbia (Sony)
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Hong Kong cityscape
[edit]Pointless redirect unless we were to have cityscape for every city. Thepharoah17 (talk) 04:46, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- Central, Hong Kong is probably a more suitable target, though I'm not fully convinced the redirect is worth keeping. --BDD (talk) 19:28, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- A cityscape for every city and a WikiProject on this is a good idea. We have cityscape articles for Zagreb, Tampa, Louisville, Cincinnati, Lexington, Ashland, and Huntington. Central, Hong Kong per BDD could be a compromise target considering Cityscape of Miami redirects to Greater Downtown Miami. Cityscape is more than a skyline, otherwise we have Hong Kong skyline redirecting the the city's tallest buildings. Cityscape I believe is more about architecture of a city, rather than architecture in a city, otherwise we have Architecture of Hong Kong. Jay 💬 07:11, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Possible targets include Architecture of Hong Kong and List of tallest buildings in Hong Kong. Left guide (talk) 05:52, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
Salt and vinegar
[edit]FChan
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Inscript
[edit] Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 July 5#Inscript
Inscriptional
[edit] Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 July 5#Inscriptional
2030 South Korean presidential election
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Fredarick Jackson
[edit] Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 July 9#Fredarick Jackson
Earl of Inchequin: restoration of honours, manors, lands and tenements in Ireland.
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Psynapse
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Earthen Vessel
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Development of The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
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Ji Seo-yeon (singer)
[edit]Salt evasion of Ji Seo-yeon, it is soft redirect?, TripleS member involved in several page (TripleS#Members metioned it.) after redirect AfD closure. Delete encourage article creation per WP:RETURNTORED. 216.247.95.184 (talk) 23:24, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
- Keep hard-redirect to TripleS. WP:PRIMARY is Ji Seo-yeon, a {{For}} hatnote could be added to the PRIMARY if appropriate. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 13:51, 17 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete because she isn't even mentioned in the TripleS article as Ji Seo-yeon, she is mentioned by her stage name (JiYeon) or by a different romanisation (Ji Suh-yeon). No value in keeping this redirection. orangesclub 🍊 04:50, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
Note: OP has been blocked for evasion. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 06:12, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per Paper9oll. drinks or coffee ~ ♪ 13:20, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Rusalkii (talk) 22:25, 26 June 2025 (UTC)
- Move without redirect to Ji Suh-yeon per Orangesclub. The only Seo-yeon of the group I see from external searches is Yoon Seo-yeon, the first member. The article under the redirect was closed at AfD only two weeks back, RETURNTORED or article creation rationales are not applicable, and if created will be at a different title (see Draft:Ji-yeon (singer)). Jay 💬 09:39, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
Wikipedia:RESULT
[edit]- Wikipedia:RESULT → Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Military history#Primary infoboxes (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Too ambiguous; same reason MOS:RESULT was deleted Jalapeño (u t g) 09:50, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: Saying "
MOS:RESULT was deleted
" without explaining the context is somewhat misleading. What happened with it was its creator, SMcCandlish, created MOS:RESULT and then about a minute later, moved it without redirect to MOS:MILRESULT . In addition, if anything, in the "Wikipedia:" and "MOS:" namespaces, "ambiguous" is better served with a disambiguation page (provided the redirect is not too old and frequently linked). Steel1943 (talk) 15:34, 16 June 2025 (UTC) - WP:RESULT is definitely too ambiguous, and we should not be redirecting unclear WP:-namespace shortcuts to MoS sections. It would be better to make an internal disambiguation page, including MOS:MILRESULT and various other pages that have "result[s]" in their name or which tally the results of processes or catalogue common results of recurrent debates, and whatever else someone might be looking for when they take a stab at "WP:RESULT". Send WP:RESULTS to same place. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 20:22, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
- Retarget to Help:Searching#Search results page to match WP:RESULTS. -- Tavix (talk) 21:07, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Rusalkii (talk) 22:25, 26 June 2025 (UTC)
- Disambiguate per SMcCandlish. Duckmather (talk) 02:08, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
Disambiguation draft requested Rusalkii (talk) 21:00, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- First choice - delete as vague. Second choice as an WP:ATD - retarget to search results per Tavix as an {{R from singular}}. Disambiguating or hatnoting RESULT to military results would be confusing. Jay 💬 03:22, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
Clavin (supplement)
[edit] Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 July 8#Clavin (supplement)
United Kingdom and Ireland
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Hop (TV series)
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Merde
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Episode 1.1
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"Spacing between initial and period" mismatches
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Josef Rudolf Mengele
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Main pages
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A Main Page
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Cloud First
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